 Weldych chi'n gweithio i'r TV, rwy'n gweithio i'r Rodgyn Armsrung ar y podcast ym Mhwyslwyr Eftan, ac rwy'n gweithio i'r Dug Armsrung ar y cyfnodol. Rwy'n gweithio i'r ym Mhwyslwyr Eftan 2 Crystal Palace Nill. Rwy'n gweithio i'r rymd ar y rymd ar y ffair, sy'n gynghwytof yn 2017. Rwy'n gweithio i'r nitty gritty. Mark O Silver changed the side. Garno was obviously struggling, he said that on Friday in a press conference, but luckily he was available to play. But obviously he made two changes, Seamus Coleman came back in, which was a little bit of surprise because he hadn't even mentioned Coleman whatsoever over the last week. André Gomez came into the midfield, which was a big shock that he started the game. So what did you make of the changes, Rodgyn? I was surprised that Seamus came back, hadn't really been previewed than he would be. And just part Gomez, I was surprised that Davis was dropped because he was. Doesn't matter which way you dress it up. He's been captain for the last two games, two wins and he was dropped. It's a brave decision and I didn't quite understand what the shape would be. Talk about that later and how he changed it. And Gomez, you weren't sure what you were going to see because he hasn't played a match, kicked a ball in anger for a while, is he fit enough? And I thought he was brilliant. I thought he was brilliant for what we saw in the first half especially. He was. He was very good. Doug, just before we go on to the formation, what did you make of Tom Davis being dropped, rested, rotated, however you want to dress it up? Well, technically speaking he was dropped, but I have faith in this manager and he has to be given the right to pick and choose who he wants to see performing in particular matches. For a long-term view, he obviously has Davis in very high esteem because he gave him the captain's armband and he didn't let the side down. So, yes he was dropped, but for my mind he was more rested for somebody else to be seen to do what they could do. And you could argue, Palace, big physical team, nasty team. Tom Davis doesn't have the same physical presence. He could have got clubbed, couldn't he? Sometimes for us fans everything's just encapsulated around the game. We just see the game. East training with them every day, obviously the manager is very, very hands-on. He's in the middle of every training session in the middle of the pitch and we know now that he moves people around. But that's what he does. He's obsessive with them. It's fantastic. For all being, this week Gomez has been flying and Davis hasn't quite been at it. Sometimes you get a match then you go, that'll be the team and it's a little bit different. Well, he's had Gomez with him the whole time during the international break. Tom's been away, so you guess he's probably put in a lot of extra work with Gomez and I think he was justified. Absolutely. I thought we started the game really well. The first 10 minutes, I thought we got at them, we were on top. We had a couple of little breaks at pace with the wrong selection. Barnard, Bachield wanted to retire us nearly instead of just shooting himself. We looked like we were going to get it. Every time the donkey got it at the back for them, he was panicking. We'll come on to second. I don't understand why we didn't literally just target him for the whole half, let him off the ball and swarm him because I don't think he knew what day it was. I'm not sure he ever knows what day it was. What do you make it a formation? Was it 4-2-3-1? Because I was talking to a guy at halftime and between us we couldn't figure out, was it 4-2-3-1? Was Rijalys Naptop on his own? I know Barnard was on the left and Guilffy was playing 10 and Wolcott was on the right. Was it Ganna and Gomez in front of the back four? I think it was 4-1-2-3. Good god. I didn't even know that existed. That's what I thought it was, I thought Gomez was very... I think the thing with... So Ganna's there and then you've got Gomez and Guilffy either side. I think what we've been... Well, it should have been 3 at times. It was 4-1-4-1. I think it was more 4-1-4-1. But that was because of... Think about how they played the low block with Hodgsh and so when they're out of possession they just basically put everybody behind the ball. They had the two banks of four and they were playing 4-4-1-1 really. Zahar was floating in between being a centre forward and dropping into wide areas and stuff. So we're going to have to work out... My biggest problem at the moment with us, not really a problem, the conundrum is we haven't been able to transfer our away form the way we play away to Goddison. So we're better when teams open up a little bit because then when we counter... I've never thought I'd say this about everything certainly six months ago. We are fantastic on the counter attack. I've never ever thought I'd say that about us but for years we've been banging on about pace haven't we, and lack of it. But I thought yesterday... what we've been conditioned to is two defensive midfielders and we've been conditioned to that now for them. Well sometimes more, more than two. But we've had Macarthe and Gary and then Bessart has gone in there and then Cooman he's always snagling and going over there and they've been the two for a while and Aladdice loved that and then he mixed it up a little bit with Wayne like one and then went back to it. So what we've needed for a number of years is an eight if you want to call on that who can do both. Who will get up and support, can shoot and will get back and defend which is one of the reasons why I thought Guilfe we missed the signal playing Guilfe there for a while but Cooman, that's what he is so he's not going to sit alongside Ghana he's going to go and he's going to come back and he's going to go because that's what he does and he moves around a bit it's a mobile centre midfielder these should be called centre midfielder we had Bryce well and Reid the best two I've seen and they could do every job and then people come in and couldn't do all them jobs so they became the water carrier or a defensive midfielder because they just sat in front this fella's laughing because he's seen midfiel players that can do everything on their own every, if you watch the main pad watch day we call it the vault a retro thing last week we watched the FA Cup final against Wafford bits of it 84 84 evidence midfield was Peter Reid and Adrian Heath right we had Kevin Richardson wide left we had Trevor Stephen wide right and we had Shady so our centre midfield players were Reid and Heath Heath, if you watch the game Heath was the number 10 if you like because he's sharp and great so we almost have three of them Peter Reid done everything himself done every job himself and then Heath coming out now the days people in the mind you've got to have two hold in midfielders no you haven't, you've just got to have good midfielders look at Man City Fernandine, they've only got him and he scores goals and he gets assists and he's great value in fantasy football but you know, they only need one of them and they've got five attackers on the pitch then because they're playing 4-1, 4-1 if we could get to that level well yeah that would be something it's done well haven't we I thought one of the problems we had in the first half like I said we started well and then it was just too slow in the final third they were so physical they did break it up we were playing nice stuff but they saw that we're not going to match this we're going to knock them over the time well I think as good as Gomez was it's the first time anyone had played with him and one of the things he did as well as pinging passes to people really confidently he'd carry the ball forward 5 or 10 yards and what that meant was that actually Walcott and Bernard weren't as far forward as they should have been because this guy was carrying the ball forward something Morgan Schneidlin hasn't done in his whole career and also I thought on the right we had a problem because Seamus and Theo were too close together because we were that further up the pitch we were trying to play football further up the pitch than normal you know Richard Ellison as a number 9 he's still got a lot to learn and it's a shame that Bernard isn't more of a right sided player and you could get both of them on the pitch well he can play there and that's the thing with Bernard he can play anywhere across the three he can play where he is at the moment he can play Guilty's role and he can play what I've done the right and I think I am a big fan of Walcott although he's finishing sometimes he drives me up the wall you compare his chance to Towson's chance of course what he used to do for Arsenal was dink the keeper so I don't know why he didn't Hennessy laid down I just thought I thought we passed it round really well and I thought the one thing the one thing I was really enthused by yesterday was the crowd because and a couple of wins I've probably done it and they allowed the players to keep the ball they still got behind them and in that first half even though it was frustrating at times we did play some nice football I thought we played some really nice football but as I really did we played this nice football but you'll have seen it many times watching the game if you slow the game down against the team that wants to defend easy to play against because you don't have to move as soon as you gain possession unless the second goal proved this over the top and you're away because prior to that you'd have 10 defenders to get past and there's no chance the only way to do it is to move the ball quickly and pull people around and we'd done it on a couple of kate we had the sig at someone when he plays calm and then he gets it back and other things that just didn't quite come off it was close but not quite clicking in the final killer pass wasn't there quick going around I thought actually as well the two centre backs they didn't dilly dally on the ball either they passed it, there were a number of times where we passed it from right back to left back quickly and they were confident they looked confident on the ball and they didn't having passed it then run 10 yards backwards so we were playing there was quite a lot of the time where we had everyone by our Pickford in their half playing from a corner so it was good but something wasn't quite clicking it was one of those afternoons we had a heart in the mouth moment when the Crystal Palace hit the crossbar oh yeah the size of them the size of them I think generally we're getting better off the zone generally it's not perfect but last year we played man to man and we were just as bad off corners the problem with zonalist tracking the runners isn't it first of all you're going to win the first which we did very well yesterday that one was a deep corner it was to the back post so they had that chance it's the bar I don't know whether he said it or he didn't fingertips maybe and we were all a bit like but in the Premier League no matter who you are you see chances you know Man City are fantastic but you get chances against them and if you take them it's a different game so we got in at halftime and again the halftime whistle went now a few weeks ago there was booze at Nillmore Saturday there wasn't people clapped on you but we hadn't even played really well so that was good isn't it because what it is is the people are going let's let the man at it deal with it and this is one thing I've been really impressed with I came out second half and within a minute evident was quicker they started to play further back further back again they were pending and there was waves of pressure in that second half where you were just like this is coming and I don't think we do that enough I've really pinned teams back but we did and again it's like you just said lots of you before Andre Gomez was key in that the ball so far forward that everybody I think the man had just said what you just said there in the first half everyone get up move up because we're playing in their half Gomez is carrying the ball 20 yards because they want to sit back so let them play further back and again things were just wasn't quite at them we had corners with Eddas just wide and they were getting great blocks in and he'd done my head in all day that part in the referee was horrendous obviously technically a good footballer but he's something like 5-11 or something you couldn't shove him over if you tried and the kid just throws himself on Andre I've watched it again you know why I don't think it is you know when he touches his foot if he goes down then I've got no argument to penalty but he waits there is a delay but he does kick his ankle and that might have been one of the only ones they get touched because every other time he just threw himself on the floor there was a stat did you say 9 fouls 3 tugs of the shirt and he didn't know yellow card and Ganna does it once one booking Zaha's problem is that he's not had the guts but he's not had the guts to go and see what he can do at a big club so he's very happy to be the big fish in the little pond in south London and that's alright he's playing for his boyhood club and big up to him that's great but play with a little bit more have a little bit more about you than just the one trick I'm going to dive and look for a foul every time because he's a gifted footballer no doubt about that he drew the foul he's a little bit slow he did do shameless for skill penalty that's it that's another afternoon at goodness isn't it ruined wasn't it because he's this exactly he's very very good with penalties but big pickers getting his rave on come up big what made that save even better was it the reaction save he throws his foot at it because he's gone and that to me sometimes it's better than actually tipping it wide because you're throwing yourself into a corner but to react I think it was an intelligent save you'd heard him talk about it on match the day last night and of course wasn't great that he said he hadn't done his homework but it was intelligence in that he's clearly looking at the run up and he's decided he's going to go one way but he doesn't over commit and one of the problems Pickford has sometimes he commits himself too early you know and so he's only kind of half gone to his left which has allowed him to kick his foot up and save it and it's brilliant and it's changed the whole game changed the whole momentum yeah changed the atmosphere well no I wouldn't say changed the atmosphere because the fans are fine but it cheered everyone up I mean keenly act the brilliantly getting it away for another corner because as he went up I was thinking don't just edit in you know that split second minute in the air because the keeper saved it after that the crowd, the police had he made a sub by then? what was the time? he's I can't remember no it was after that wasn't it? it was just after that he made the first sub he took Bernard off didn't he he took Bernard off it would that's penalty save as you rightly say that's typical of a physical side that's come to kick all the grass they get a goal and boy would they defend after that he wouldn't have stunned the chance against them they could kick you up and down Dale you're right and so that save well it did it also makes him man of the match for the save he saved the club and then of course the changes came on and we managed to win it which was even better I mean we get the penalty saves fantastic we then have a great opportunity with Theo get slid in and he's one on one his pace is great and he's serving you thinking just dink it just dink it and he's I could see what he's saying today he's trying to beat him at the near post at that moment you're like alright come on let's keep this going but that's where the manager was very very brave wasn't he because Bernard had showed lovely touches but he wasn't as effective as he was last week and he'll have this little he'll have it when he gets up to speed and that's what your sub's there for your sub's your there for options but what I thought Towson because he brought you in Towson and pushed Retialers and what I'd left what I thought Towson did was back into them and said come on then let's have a little bit of physicality then the first thing he did was knock a fellow over he did knock a fellow over and I'm here now so let's play you want to be competitive while we be competitive because Retialers he's only a young lad and he commits fouls when he's trying to do the clever bit he commits fouls and he loses his temper and he's a yellow card in waiting so it's one of them and he mixed it up really well he done this at Leicester last week actually brought Towson on last week he gave us that extra little bit that wasn't a change of formation right that was just Retialers now to the left and Towson through the middle let's push these back we've got a fellow now we want to take it into his chest because Retialers is a runner really he wants to be on the shoulder in a way into his feet and what he was doing Retialers was he was drifting into where Bernard was or drifting back because he wants to be involved in the game excuse me Anthony Taylor's left me throat and then another couple of changes which were brave because Andre Gomez he did that nice little care and effort but then a minute later he went on a running fellow because his legs went from underneath because you could just see he hadn't played for quite a while he was knackered and he'd been really good he'd give us a little glimpse of what was in the field it's like to have someone who can both feet right and left confidence will have a little go, good statue good pace about them so that's really exciting to see 24 or just turn 25 and he's on loan he's on loan with an option to buy I don't think there's an option to buy yet but we did want to buy him and that's when the formation changes that was a big thing and it was this is what we're going to do Guildfield's rock backing and we'll go more of a it was 4-4-2 because the manager's looked and gone with a diamond with Ghana and Sigurdtson and he'll see if he can play the 8 and it was let's get at them and I think Doug said that before rather than put defenders on and go let's protect this let's not get beat then and keep the momentum going he's gone this is a game we've got a win we've got man United away next week but he said after Leicester and in the build up to this game Leicester's no good if we don't win this game so we won if you win an away game you have to if you want to do anything you have to follow it up and on and the home fixtures are nice up until you could argue Tottenham on the 23rd next up we've got Cardiff and then Brighton rather and then Cardiff Watford and Newcastle Newcastle and Watford in that order with the Red Shower and Chelsea and United away and City away as well there's like four on the next four yeah I think City away is after Watford is after Watford and then it's Tottenham at home so we've got three or four tough away games and with yesterday we had five very very winnable home games 15 points from them you know makes a big difference takes their heat off well listen Tottenham as good as they are and I really like them and I like Partitino they're beatable but away from what I was going to say away from against the top is horrendous they're beat every year by everyone else and still finish runners up so I'm not advocating ever to lose those four away games but what I'm saying is if you're winning against the teams you should be winning against if that sets you so high up that being table the other four games Liverpool United, Chelsea and City for argument's sake we could lose all of them because they're further along the process but as long as we win every home game they won't damage us so much but what we then have to do is start beating Watford away and Palace away well then the new year it flips because we've got five tougher home games after January after Bournemouth because we play City and Chelsea and Liverpool and Arsenal at home and we've got easier easier away games and then that'll be up to us then but just let's quickly go back to the last ten minutes so we did change the formation and he brings look when Ann Calvert-Lewin on at the same time it's a brilliantly flighted cross as my dad said it was beautifully done and Calvert-Lewin finishes it well we have three men there in the six years so even if Hennessy had pushed it out I think we just got it anyway but it's a good attitude wasn't it excellent I was as I've said before the substitutions were outstanding for me and that little chip from look when well obviously the manager reached him because he flatly refused to let him go to that team he said he's the young man he is but he's the future now that means to me when Cleo Walcott has we've had enough of him that places is and I can see that happening to be honest with you because the lad has ability there's no doubt about it he has ability obviously he's a young lad and he's a bit timid sometimes but give him the ball in a little bit of space and he'll manufacture things for this there's also a flick out from Rich Arleson with his left foot back to goal Rich Arleson flicks it out to look good turns to come in and attack the cross it's everyone's thinking goal, goal, goal we've got to win this game I've made up for Carl Verlun he's a waste of time on the left on the right but through the middle he's a young lad and he's going to get better and he was a great header when the place erupted didn't it which was great and then I was even more delighted like old times I've had a few of those over the year absolutely I don't know whether I've celebrated the goal like the second goal for a while you know, I think Jaha and the referee warm up that much that when Michael Keane plays that lovely through ball absolutely beautiful just a little 7-9 down but what a touch to get it out to run out but all that team was up the pitch and there was nobody to club it if anybody away and he finished it I think it was important that he was able to finish that because if you get 10 minutes or 15 minutes and you're going to get one or two chances you take one of them it's got to be great for the confidence and it gives the manager tough decisions tough selection so you know what you can tell how much the teams together and you can tell how popular he is because everybody bar picked ran and dived on him everyone of them and the first one there, whenever we score if it's not him who scores, it's Rajalyson but that's the thing isn't it what you've got to do as a football team as you're growing is you've got to the manager says solutions any little challenge that comes your way you've got to be able to get over that little bump you're not going to we're still going but everyone could have been faring a lot by the time and they could have been but they just went, we won the game sooner that's all you need it's about coping with adversity building a team and building team spirit and that, great, everyone was involved everyone who came on as a substitute made a difference so you've got 14 players who've contributed to that victory yesterday I've seen it at the end I can't even remember who was saying you felt as though even if Milovit, Myhailovit, what have you on a call? Milovit even if he'd have scored that penalty he said I got the feeling I wouldn't win the game anyway and there was what there was what to say no, we won, but we're the Evertonians so we're like oh my god and you're still watching the game only what of but we finished with I know possession doesn't mean a lot but we finished with 60% of possession we finished with 20 shots to day 7 we had 10 corners you won on points didn't you technically speaking even in a little draw if it was a boxing match you'd have won every round that's a good thing all praise to the manager you're right, you earned his money yesterday and rightly so so we go to Old Trafford ahead of them and who do we start? I'd go with the same team and I'll tell you why because we are much better on the counter-attack as we proved yesterday when the old time they committed meant we looked the threat United will have a lot of the ball cos that's what they do you don't think Halbert Lywun or Towson deserved to start up top and maybe drop Bernard to the bench and put Rich Arneson on the left? I don't think United have got a game in Europe as well as we at home or away so they're at home they're at home on Tuesday we haven't got a game event is they play at home so it's a tough game but it's Sunday again right? Sunday at four so I like they've got a break but so we've got a week to play but counter-attack Rich Arneson against their two centrebacks yes please and if it doesn't we just do what we did yesterday that comes off Rich Arneson switches to the left hand side and Jen comes through the middle or Cat Old Dom or whoever it may be but what you want is when you look at that bench you want to go you know what I'm happy with it yesterday I'd have been happy with any sub coming on if your bench goes that if your bench level is like Jen Towson and Tom Davis and Jeremy Jen Towson and Tom Davis are playing a couple of weeks ago they're your bench level and you can't get in the 18 now you know that's no that's an improvement but it's interesting you said about the four home games now which we've got we've got one we've got four winnable home games and three tough away games would you trade a home victory for getting a draw at Old Trafford or Anfield or Stamford Bridge because one of the things we talked about of course points make prizes that's not meant to be a stupid question but what I'd love to see Silver show that he can do is that we can go and compete it at Old Trafford and not just lose 3-0 again whether we can see three in the last five minutes or whether we're 2-0 down after 20 the same at the bridge where we've got an appalling record and Anfield don't even go there but I'd love us to be able to score an away goal those places and you know a win Cranky O'Reilly let's not get carried away but I'd like to see us go and get a proper scoring draw at one of those and if that meant that we dropped points at home to maybe Brighton who were underrated or Watford then it wouldn't be the danger is we go oh that's fine four home wins and three batterings away from home of course but again processes isn't it because it's an interesting question but what I would do is at swap I'd draw with Brighton at home to win one of those away games one of them of course you would it's the same point so would you accept three wins and a draw at home and a draw at one of those three so that's 11 okay so then we get back to the same number of points because you won 12 what I'm looking at you're right but I saw us go to Arsenal Arsenal doing very well how many chances did we have we had loads in the first half it's not the manager is it the manager set the team up to play that way and the team done which I think why he said the results are relevant almost because yeah there was a 20 minute spell once they scored where we were out of it but then we came on strong we could have scored serve at the end again but in that first half we could have been three in a row so if one of them, if Dominic Alder live in Square Stack won it he goes so we go to Old Trafford and we have to take it that's not the manager the manager's process will have put us in that position those players then after that and you've got to keep 11 men on the pitch in these away fixtures and the danger is that a Richarlison or someone who can become a little hot headed or a centre bench you've got a solution now on the bench he's shredding a thin line he'll take him off because he's just as good you know Walcott's not in this luckman's coming on because he can do so that's all you can ask for as a fan is to look at that bench and go I'm happy with whichever sub he makes don't bring him on why is he warming up yesterday three forwards came on three forwards in a nil nil which they could have broken and won the game and he didn't like Dux at the end of his money events you know what, we're winning this and he's won us the game so you can ask for more it's Monday's a great win big thanks to Roger and the big man Doug come on lad, get it in we're all happy, we're all buzzing long may it continue Everton to Crystal Palace nil enjoy your Monday if you haven't subscribed please do so, only takes a second make sure you check out Everton Business Matters podcast with Roger, John Blaine and the Esk find that on the blue room part of the blue room check that out it's really good, really informative and enjoy the rest of your day see you later