 You also wrote that when you were in high school, you either wrote or just started a book on Amelia Earhart. Oh, yes. And what was the appeal of her to you? Oh, my god. OK. Well, Amelia Earhart, I stumbled on. It was like an article, 1961, in the Syracuse Herald Journal, about there's always some article about Amelia Earhart. You know, someone finds a fragment of something and something. And I became very interested in her. And at that point, I was, I guess, 14. And so I began researching her and in the bowels of the Syracuse library, the things were still not on a microphone yet. It was like the newspapers were still there from the 1930s. So I did that for like three years in this research project. And that's how I became a feminist before feminism had revived. Because I suddenly discovered this period just after women had won the right to vote in the 1920s and 30s, where we had all these career women like Amelia Earhart and Dorothy Parker, Dorothy Thompson, Claire Booth, Lou, so there's just so many women. Margaret Brooke White. And so by the time second wave feminism revived, which was with Betty Friedan's co-founding of Now in 1967, I was out of sync with them. So suddenly they revived and began complaining about men and all that stuff and so on and so forth. I hated it. And it was early clashes that I had with those feminists from the start. I tried to join second wave feminism. They wouldn't have me. Because I would not badmouth men. These women like Amelia Earhart and so on, they did not badmouth men. They admired men. They admired what men had done. And what they said was we demand equal opportunity for women, which give us the opportunity to show that we can achieve at the same level as men who did all these great things. That was not the tone of second wave feminism from the start. It was always like, man, there's a patriarchy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, like this and so on. Bunch of these women were insane. From the start, I went to this feminist conference at the Yale Law School when I was in graduate school. It was 1971. Kate Millet was there. Rita Mae Brown, who later became a lesbian novelist and lives on a horse farm in Virginia, around so on. Maybe she's here. Maybe she's here. She's very rich and so on. At any rate, so Rita Mae Brown said to me, she said, difference between you and me, Kimmel, is that you want to save the universities and I want to burn them down. Now, what can you say when this conversation is stopper? I had the knockdown argument of the Rolling Stones with the New Haven Women's Liberation Rock Band. I adore the Stones. They hated the Stones. So we had this huge screaming argument. My back was to the wall. They were spitting in my face. And I said, yes, the Rolling Stones are sexist, but they make great music. And they're like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. All right, let's say under my thumb. Under my thumb, yes, it's sexistly, but it's a great song. It's a work of art and so on. And these women said to me, art, art. Nothing that demeans women can be art. Now, that is the Stalinist view of art. More about you, more about you, less about that. Then there was, wait a minute, then there was the argument that I had. It says Amelia Earhart. You asked Amelia Earhart. Then I had my first job at Benton College in 1972. And people said, oh, there's this new women's studies department, one of the first efforts at the State University of New York at Albany. You'll be wondering. OK, so they're feminists. I'm feminine. So we had like a dinner. We're going to go to a lecture and so on. And we didn't get through to dessert. Let me tell you about that dinner. Because we had this screaming argument about hormones. They denied that hormones have the slightest impact on human life. They said hormones don't even exist. They told me I had been brainwashed by male scientists. And these are women who are in the English department. I had a wonderful education they had in biology. At any rate, Amelia Earhart, it never was like this with men, because this is the point. So Amelia Earhart, in fact, my next book, my next aesthetic lecture, I'm going to reproduce the page from Newsweek Magazine. 1963, I wrote in a letter to the editor. It was like a number one letter. I'm 16 years old at that point. And what was it? Oh, I know what it was. They put a picture of Amelia Earhart there. And it was Valentina Tereshkova had become the first woman in space. And the Soviet Union had sent her up. And I wrote a protest letter into Newsweek. And I said that Valentina Tereshkova has become, had the Cosmonaut, has become the first woman on the anniversary that Amelia Earhart flew to the ocean, whatever it was, was some big anniversary of her. And I said it obviously, Amelia Earhart's lifelong fight for equal opportunity for American women remains to be won. That's 1963.