 Choo-ee, hands up please don't choo-ee, hands up please don't choo-ee, hands up please don't choo-ee. Hear, head saying clear, moms are here. In terms of what sort of reaction they've received, I think it's been positive if not a little mixed. So from other protesters I think the idea is they are taking up a lot of attention in space and there's a fear that they sort of wouldn't be there if it hadn't been for the federal troops that their real, their real aim is the Trump administration and the federal troops and if it had just been about Black Lives Matter that they wouldn't have shown up. And I think that's a legitimate concern that sort of these white suburban women show up not for all causes of injustice but only for select ones. It's a fascinating thing when you start digging at how many times and in how many ways and in how many places the motherhood identity has been deployed and it turns out there's an extensive history of motherhood being deployed for political purposes. Some others against drunk driving is one of the most prominent ones in the U.S. It's long running, it's respected and well known. It's not typically on the front line of protests but there's lots of other organizing. You'll see the mothers of the movement, right, which is a group of mothers who have had children killed either from police violence or some kind of racist vigilante violence. So Trayvon Martin's mother is a part of it. Michael Brown's mother is a part of it. The mothers of the movement are a small group of women who go out and they make political claims on behalf of Black Lives Matter and sort of ending police violence in general. So they're Black women and so they don't get a lot of big media attention the way the Wall of Moms does but they certainly are making the same kinds of claims about these are our children, our kids are at risk. But even going back further, so Mother's Day starts as a political statement by a peace activist who her name's Anna Jarvis and she, her mother had been a peace activist following the Civil War and had taken care of Civil War soldiers from both sides and just was horrified by war. And so when her mother died, she, Anna Jarvis said, we need a political action against war in the name of the mothers who have to watch their kids die. So Mother's Day is actually has an interesting movement, a social movement history that we don't often talk about now that it's just sort of like, oh, send your mom a card and some flowers. It has a really politically pointed history. And then internationally, there have been movements of mothers in Sri Lanka and South Africa. There's a very famous long running movement of mothers called the Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo in Argentina. Excuse my terrible Spanish. And they first came together in the 1970s protesting the military regime there and their disappeared children. They were a group of, you know, a dozen, maybe a few more mothers who found each other in the court system and just trying to figure out what happened to their children who had been killed by the military. And they started protesting in the biggest, most public square. They would wear white scarves and they would carry pictures of their children who had been disappeared. And they would very publicly criticize the government at a time when nobody else could when it was a death sentence to question or protest against the government. The government for at least a while felt like they couldn't do anything about it because they were relying on this idea that their government was going to bring back safe families and that they were doing this for, you know, family values kind of argument. And so they couldn't gun down a bunch of mothers. So the idea that, you know, they did fire at moms, they did tackle moms. They, right, the federal troops did all of these things to women who were their self-professed as moms. And so then those women go out and they talk to the news and they talk to their friends and they talk to their churches and they say, listen, we, you know, you all, you all who were not protesters thought, oh, those are just some troublemakers downtown. When in fact, you know, they said we weren't doing anything wrong and it happened to us so we can't trust this narrative that these protesters are just troublemakers. Right, they can bring the sort of personal bearing witness to the violence from federal troops or from police. And that's a really effective thing. So, and they don't get that attention if they're not deployed as moms, right? If that identity isn't, of a mom isn't right up front. It's a really effective strategy.