 A leader is somebody who is supposed to show people direction, a leader is somebody who acts like a motivational speaker, a leader is somebody who brings hope to a society. Now having that in mind, when we look at our constitution chapter 6, let's say article 75 where it talks of conduct of the state officers, it is very very evident that most of our leaders nowadays have lost control whereby they just throw words not minding whom they are affecting. Now coming to us as youths, we are facing the issue of lack of support from these big politicians, we are also looking at the issue of lack of proper guidance. Now over what has happened in the recent past is very shameful and we can't emulate that. We as youths we are gearing up for the success of this country. If we look at the promulgation of the constitution 10 years ago, it has been ages, I mean it has been stage after stage, stage after stage. And with the current regime we thank the Honorable Huru Kenyatta who is trying his level best to make sure that the big four are generally achieved. Only that sometimes we face those leaders who have more personal interest than public interest. And from my own opinion I would say that I think the youths hold the betterment of this future, the future of this country. So I believe the proper chance will be able to change this Kenya. Now on the issue of youths and in the upcoming youth leadership I would say is that first I would also want to challenge these youths and tell them that it is high time we wake up from the issue, I mean from an era of those big promises from this big politician, then delivering nothing at the end of the day. It is we, it is our responsibility to wake up in the morning and face the day that it comes and say to ourselves that no, tomorrow is our day. So I am also challenging these our fellow youths to stand up because if you look carefully you realize that they are the ones encouraging this because somebody will come today, promise you I'll give you, I mean let me just use a very common example. We are going to go into a dispensation of campaign, let's say God bless that this corona ends. We should be saying it has started because we've seen the campaigns. Well of course the president has not officially launched it because constitutionally first of all the parliament has to be dissolved for us to move into that dispensation of campaign. But what I'm saying is I'm saying that we are moving into that dispensation and now that's where we'll see people coming up with different interests, different interests. Now let me take you back a bit in the subsequent constitution of chapter 6 where we are discussing about leadership and integrity. We have that chapter 6 article 73 where it talks about the role of leadership. You see when we look at the role of leadership it narrows down to we as individual because we as people we act as leaders in the various capacity. But most of the time we kind of drift away from what we elected then we start throwing once in public. Another issue that I also love to mention is that we've lucked to call moral support in terms of now raising these youths. And the moral support as I was saying that we're moving into the dispensation of campaign. You realize that a very prominent politician will come up, may say a remote village. Then he's been living in Nairobi, he comes, he goes to a remote village with an intention of buying either an MCA position, MP position, Senator Women Rep all the way to the governorship position. But if you look at his manifesto you realize that he will only be blabbing on the promises that have been there all along but nothing so far has developed. Where now we lose focus and now he realize that these people he can exploit them with let's say handouts for 50 bob or 100 bob, people to be chanting and screaming his name for now that is showing leadership. I would like to say that is not leadership. I think that is misleading of the general public where they tend to believe that we are headed for the right direction which we are not. But you see for some time I've seen the electorates being blamed for the kind of leaders they choose or they elect into office. But these are the same leaders who will speak. They have a good PR, they will promise, they will tell us this is what we will do for you. And by what they say we believe them but apparently when they get into that office they change. How then do we get to blame the electorates? I wouldn't really say that we should blame the electorates but the point should be what we as leaders as we are elected, what are we doing? If for example I have an intention to buy for an MCA Mountain View Westland constituency come 2022, I need to understand what is it that my people are facing that I need to go to the county assembly of Nairobi and address. If it's a problem of poor sewer line, if it's a problem of poor governance, if it's a problem of poor education, if there is no enough schools in the area first of all is to understand our role as leaders. It is very key and mandatory to know where we belong. I would say this that in most cases people are attracted by the benefits of an office but not the inner service of leadership. Because my brother will realize that as a leader you become like a servant and as a servant you need to express and understand your people in a manner that they need to feel that active representation wherever you are. Because as I said as I was starting that as leaders you need not first number one is that you are like a moral support to this many that are looking up to you. You are that role model that they are saying like for example where you come from you hear somebody saying ndako mwishimewa, go to mwishimewa he will help you. So just by that mention you realize that you've been ranked and that ranking comes with some responsibilities. So I think people are forgetting what they elected to do in the office and now drifting to their own personal interests. Now that's where we now come and say that people are forgetting their duties and attending to their personal needs. Ok, I want you to hold on that point of power and responsibility. Thank you there for joining us. Speaking of leadership and integrity, we've had cases in courts. We have rumas, allegations, embezement of fund on funds rather. Right now we have cases of our governors in courts. The kind of leadership that we voted in office this time and even the previous time and even yesterday years. Does it mean this country or we as a people we are not disciplined enough to be responsible or to be true to our calling of leadership and being responsible or being good stewards of what the people have voted as in for? Ok, that's an interesting question. Thank you. First my name is Widera Ranjiru. Mothers like to call me Beatrice. I'm also Nyerariya Mumbi and I have many hearts. I would like to say that I'm from the red vest movement of Kenya and we talk about corruption. We thrash grafting always. The question on is it the problem of the electorate or is it the problem of the law or is it the problem of who is approaching the electorate? I would like to say it's a problem of first of all lack of identity as the people of Kenya. Lack of identity in what sense? That first we must realize and acknowledge that democracy is a concept that is as new in Kenya and it started working in Kenya probably two decades ago. That is in the 80s and 90s where we had the second liberation and that's why names like Rayla Odinga such big names in Kenya. Democracy itself is not really well embraced but would not understand the constructs of democracy. I'm not here as a lawyer but well I could be quite vast and I have also interacted in spaces, political spaces as a socialist. I would like to say that in 2013 I was I think, is it 19 I'm not sure but I remember being a chief campaigner of a very, he was he's an engineer and he's someone who sounded as visionary for the people of Kayole that is Mbakasi central constituency. But what people told me is that why there we understand what you're talking about but the thing is at the moment you do not want this. So that explains that elections or politics or the electioneering period in Kenya is all about popularity and populism. So if popularity and populism is winning against democracy and the constructs of democracy then we are not going to go anywhere. We are going to keep on doing the same thing expecting a ballot revolution in Kenya and that is not entirely possible. The other problem I would like to say is the issue on identity besides not suffering things that happened with democracy and of course heroic persons coming out of it. There is a transition where we are coming from an old constitution into a new constitution we mark exactly ten years after we promagated our constitution on August of 2010 and definitely there is something or an independent commission we must talk about and that is the IEC and now the IEBC. The transition between those two periods. Someone would not do their job. So before we can even talk about devolution in its role there are also the local government, I know the local government but the county government and there are also the national government we need to talk about the discrepancies. Why did civic education not work and why do we have a lot of monies in our county budgets going back to the treasury because they are not getting used and which monies are those public participation which again Kenyans have left or community based organizations have left the masses of the government of the day the national government to come and articulate issues. So why should a commission like Ngek call for a public participation forum in Kenya Monetary or whatever school of studies and the people in Machinani cannot be able to get this information fast hand either through a poster somewhere either through information or someone sent by the chief to actually tell these people you need to appear on this and this date or actually send you elected or nominated or community organizers all these key community youth persons and elderly persons in the community to go and participate so there is a fraction of people who understand constitutionalism and the essence of constitutionalism the essence of what the preamble for instance talks about or advocates for and definitely passing on the ideals of this constitution to the next generation and there is another generation of people that actually not even care, they do not even know and who are the youth, the children belonging to the middle class you have said there is public participation that is called for but these people do not go but if a politician says or if a politician is said to be at a certain place you will see people but when something has been called which is of paramount to them they will not show up who is to blame, is it the leader or the people? I will say it's the transition the transitional process that did not work Isaac Hassan Kru did not do the right thing in Kenya and that is to instill the values or the ethics of this constitution to the people so it's not the people and it's not the politician the politician knows and he represents a fraction of people that are 100% aware of what these things are of what these laws are, of what these functions are but whoever he approaches by the end of the day he will appear heroic or like our savior which is a problem in Kenya again because this person is telling them what they need to hear not necessarily what they are going to do especially if they have money can I go to a famous line? hold on to that point Eric we were speaking about the responsibility of these leaders they have been voted in you promised you will build this road you will give us jobs you have this kind of money like she has mentioned money will move to the counties but we have no discipline as leaders to be good stewards you know one thing that amuses me so much is the fact that we as let me say politician rather leaders they will quote the constitution very well whenever they have a problem they will quote the constitution very well and they say as per the constitution this and this is supposed to be done but very unfortunate that the same people who quote the constitution they don't follow it and we see what is happening online everywhere you realize that people are misusing the constitution now on the next point she has talked about the issue of public participation and she has also talked about the issue of you know the leader going to he approaches 100% fraction who understands who the leader is I would have to interject on her point by saying this many people lack what we call civic education now on this civic education is now where we come and say public enlightenment and public can I call awareness now how I wish the government could invest so much in public awareness in the key matters of the country so as people also to know where they belong and where the constitution has placed them because most of the time a mamboga somewhere in mountain of the westlands will not understand what chapter 6 talks about will only see Eric then say Eric tells her mama I'll boost your business and then I'll go home saying I've won that woman not knowing that what I've created in that woman is a promise so it is my responsibility as a leader to keep that promise how I wish as I said earlier in the coming dispensation we now look at the issue of performance and we as as electorals now as leaders under what we call public audit we let you 5 years ago what have you done you promised us we'll build the road have you built the road you promised us that we'll bring water is there any water you promised us this we will do 1 2 3 we are seeing nothing what you normally see is fights every now in the county assembly fights every now wherever you go very harsh utterance wherever you walk around she has talked about the issue of the report that this commission that was formed by Isaac where they did their report I would love to say that let me be clear sometimes when you are in a public office as a state officer you work under a system a system guides you a system guides you and whenever you try to move out of that system you become an enemy so there are 2 things here you have to protect yourself as a person in your office and also at the same time you have to represent your people so depending on who you are now that's where you come out and say are you an activist if you are an activist like let me quote the famous one that I know Muki Omtata whom every time you will hear him in the morning with so much files in court shewing everybody in the country over them is use of funds and everything so I think the only thing that people need right now is a politics of we are doing this give me a chance to do more and let me talk about my case I am an upcoming politician and I know where I come from I present a lot so it's upon my own self to know and discipline myself that hey I need to make sure that I deliver to these people and that's why we now come in talk of the issue of service delivery to your people now in most cases an activist like her will fight a politician to keep the politician on post it's not in a bad way it's not a bad thing but people do go wrong I want also to address the next issue why we face a lot of problem I think it's very very important for electrolytes to elect an educated person in these public offices why am I saying this if for example you elect a four drop out to a public office be rest assured if that person even in mathematics got an E how is he going to manage a budget of 20 million per month but also you could be speaking of the skills someone could be having leadership skills but they never went to school let me be clear there are many schools and schools and they do so well and they have projects and they move but let me ask you at the end of the day where do they lead to and how does the understanding of the law you can't understand the law if you don't know how to read but you don't assume that since I dropped out of form 4 or rather I finished form 4 I was just giving a context whereby for somebody to understand himself and his roles it's not on a bad note but I think it's a better way moving this dispensation for better presentation like for example if I'm elected to the parliament or the county assembly and even to pronounce myself my name is hard how am I even going to sponsor one bill of rights to pass through the county assembly it is not possible that's quite true now a bitries as you respond to my question I kindly ask you to hold your mic well at the middle we were speaking about power and responsibilities because I am famous I have money I can make people vote for me we know a number of people were in office because they were famous maybe for the things they did for the people but when they get there they are unable to balance between power and the responsibilities they are required of what should be the way forward what should be the way forward well I'm not here to give a way forward but I'm here to give my thoughts if you complain so much you will never have the solution maybe you could be having an idea sure two things the other day I responded to irreverent steamo the enjoyer in response to saying that and using that proudly as my identity and I said on my Facebook timeline that you have an ID and you have no ideology and you have no ID and ideology you have no ID and you have no ideology and you have no identity what does that mean that we are so fast to adopt ways, new ways whatever ways compare Kenya to other democracies or other whatever Rwanda or all these fast growing economies but I would like to say something charity begins at home charity begins at home means that and I respond to the illustration you brought in here the issue about who we are as a Kenyan people and the issue about nationalism the issue about patriotism is something that we must come in and draw a clear line for instance we have the Kenya Girl Guides and Scouting Association something that went viral the other day about the celebrated burden power and the ideals and all these things that he tried to instill through a certain system girl guide association and all the systems in our country and we become people that defend certain concepts that we do not understand what these concepts are about we need to start understanding ourselves and actually going beyond the constitution to understand who we are in the fraction of people that we represent and how my role as a person comes in in making a decision that I'm not going to regret about look at this I'm from Eastlands and I will talk about an MP who once said on a national holiday that mimi nili kwa makanga nili chaguliwa but are you a populist in parliament are you a patriot who is defending people some level of psychofancy some political big big up there representing a certain ideal and you are not representing the will of the people down there these two difference there's two different things giving the people a promise and going as per what chapter 6 of the constitution says true if I do not understand my mandate and my commandate as an MP before I go to parliament I will not deliver in fact talking about it gikomba fires these things from Eastlands want to defend and represent and matatu you're not going to be hard if you do not have even the basic understanding of constitution or actually what the people want and actually being able to legitimize and formalize that language in a way that parliament talks in this kind of way people will understand you in parliament it's important that we have education I see the difference when I'm going to Galleria mall and I'm using Langata road and you will see the nicely ever intact these road whatever reserves those areas the roundabouts well kept compared to other sides of the people things change do you know why nyasi kidero is famous nyasi needs to go down within two muds beachroading on some budget needs to maintain that do you understand what I'm talking about I'm talking about how we are socialized as a people where we come from how we've grown up and what we want as Kenyans and who we want to represent us if it's someone like us then please don't go complaining that people are not doing what they promise to do because how can they deliver if they do not know what they're doing but then the people who are there for example the islans will vote in their people and the person who comes from where they are they have nothing new they will go by that they will promise like an example we've seen leaders from Nairobi have had they've gone for benchmarking in Rwanda but when they come back things don't change allow me to say something on that I'd also like to challenge the electrolytes on one thing it's high time they stop the issue if they don't stop the tribal thing in Kenya is killing us the other day we saw president Magufuli in Kenya telling us that Kenya is a country we are doing well but if we only stop one thing tribalism will go for secondly is as she is saying you realize that as a common one inch the way his mind has been meant to function to a politician the way that let him come and promise then we send him to deliver allow me to give this reference I love my area MP and that man is working very tirelessly every morning to ensure that at least everybody gets something in a way we also during this period that we've been facing COVID-19 Honorebu Timuanyoni has been there for the people of Westlands constituency and he has tried his level best to make sure and ensure that people at least get what they elected him to do but one thing he has lacked for quite some time is what we call support system at what level to make him achieve his agenda for the past two terms has been in me why that simply because as leaders and I repeat this we need to be very accountable over the roles we've been given we need to step up and say yes last month they drew a budget of let's say 5 million to Jengahi Barabara and yes guys this is what we're doing so that is one thing people feel like when they elected in county assembly or in parliament is now the time to eat which is a misconception and that's why personally I'm charging the youth to wake up and say no to corruption say no to being misused and spearhead the agenda of progress because if you are that entrepreneur as a youth let that leader help you but don't allow that leader to misuse you you become my blogger today I pay you let's say 500 bupa a day then you suffer for the rest of your life you're gaining nothing why don't you make yourself usable I mean why don't you stand up and say yes I'm Eric and so and so this is my self and this is where I'm going on the issue that she was saying on the personal identity it's also very important to know who you are alright because you I've been a youth for a long time I'm still a youth and many people that approaches you be it older age or small age you realize that they are looking at what you have then they say how they can get it Eric Nilipea Nilipea it's a common problem but then how do you tackle it from the above alright and that's now where the leaders come and make people vulnerable to use them I'll make you be begging for me 5bub 5bub 5bub every day but you will never grow any time you want to grow and you approach me I see you as a competitor threat the next point it is also important to be creative and innovative as a youth so that when a leader comes he finds you doing something and I like telling people it's also good for you as a youth to have what you call this is what I have what will you do for me before I vote you in it is as clear as that alright we running out of time here there's another interview coming up but do you think political positions have been used in this country to acquire wealth okay I can prove we have a number we have a number who have gone there they are popular they have money here but they still want to go in just to be there but we also have people do we have people who have used the platform of politics to become wealth well that's a hilarious question and first of all it's very true so many people have risen to power and used their positions of power to amass wealth at the expense of the taxpayer and as Eric is talking Hillary about something called neoliberalism and what is neoliberalism I didn't really want to use a lot of many words here that we use in the activism world but I think I have to talk about it for the first time one year neoliberalism is the aspect of the government of the day relegating its key duties to other players like the civil society like donors all these people to come and do things that the government should be doing I mean not necessarily on matters to do with creating public awareness on anything like on our constitution which everyone is doing and there are so many outfits out there educating people and giving them a thousand bob every day or 500 bob kulechin which is not different from from any other hassle out there but I'm saying let's stop commercializing on two things on the lives of Kenyans and number two and number four let's stop blaming the youth over mistakes that Moaikibaki the retired president did let's stop blaming the youth and calling them thieves which is something the president of Kenya did earlier this year because the youth are not thieves the youth are trying to live and survive by their means because their papers are no longer working for them and there is a particular set of old gods and very rich individuals in top government propositions who are not realizing that the youth are 76 percent of our population of our demographic composture and it's time that if they are not sure that things are changing things are actually changing not in favor of any youthful president or aspiring candidate for that matter but things are changing in favor of actually power shifting to the grassroots means that the poor person is beginning to realize that they cannot live on one male a day and when that happens don't blame people for doing the right thing all these people the ten big families that own land in Kenya three Americans or two Americans and the rest are Britons and all these people the foreigners at the expense of someone who went to a forest came back and his fifth generation is from the time 1948 1956 the children of those people do not have something to eat it's coming back on new people that's why an MP will stand somewhere and say this matter and this actually the youthful are starting to reclaim or actually take their power positions and it's going to have a lot of friction and it's going to be messy but messy in a way that we are not here with an intention to fight as the youth but we are here to take power and if things have to go down before that happens maybe even a ballot revolution is quite an idea whose time is not yet here but some kind of change thing is coming so back to neoliberalism let me allow me to just finish about neoliberalism 4 key factors the big 4 agenda health 4 basic things look at who has infiltrated that market look at who has infiltrated that discourse on housing agenda the real estate it has become a capitalistic venture providing people shelter has become a capitalistic venture look at education who are the key players the private sector a rich persons child an MP's child will not go to a primary school public primary school in Tani why? because they can afford so it has become a capitalistic venture look at health I one day went for Mahali Tunaupo Rwai where I was coming from this morning we came to hospital I think it was last year I sat with this mama mawa clinic I didn't know where to start the queues from and I heard the nurses were talking because they were on a T-brick some kind of a brick the medical practitioners they were conversing you know what if a certain international donors withdrew their support to the maternal healthcare system and the relief is it relief or is this this HIV program and diabetes these special programs for people and HIV testing when you go you get ARVs if a certain donor was to withdraw their budget in Nairobi alone so many nurses and medical practitioners and so many people will go home with nothing to it look at who we have today in employment that is a final one your liberalism has hit really hard look at markets look at employment in the last one decade we've had so many a lot of youth being chand out of the system and they cannot feel themselves why we have taught people to be professionals but we have not taught people the basic life skills of survival it's not okay for Betty now to be seen doing odd jobs I have since decided to be a farmer it's okay for Nyeraria Mumbi to be seen doing odd jobs because she went to a university and there's something wrong and neoliberalism has to be thrown out for things to start working the right way and the right way is socialism what kind of socialism I saw Pasarish complain on Twitter that people are telling her but of course Pasarish is getting paid a certain amount of money and we know they have the taxes and we also know that she can't be there for the whole of Nairobi to pay rent to pay health so please the dependency the dependency the dependency culture, your handouts and now it's even worse sitak yata miyambili manze fulani I don't have 1000 bob to go to the hospital it has to be broken why corona is here to make people go back to start farming the education system that we have in Kenya today that Dr. Rwande Njoa keeps talking about and keeps bashing she is bashing for a reason we need to teach our children to learn to live and by the skills they get and also be able to question so do not also come here and also scrap the universities and try to cattle the number of people that go to universities do that but make sure the market out there is sustaining for them by doing what ansakurudisha agriculture primary school it's gonna work probably just somehow Eric as you respond to that someone has challenged you and I think this is an opportunity for you to defend your sentiments about education he is saying he should know that there is a big difference between profession and education I think here well before you answer that question try to let me respond to what she is saying and briefly the reason why the dependency ratio views is very high is because leaders have not done what we call empowerment to the youths I think we should be shifting to powering people and powering is giving people money no no no no you see this is what I mean I am vying in mountain view I identify a group of people how do I empower them maybe for example first thing is to register them to be legally noticed that way it gives them a right to access any government office with their certificate to either get weather fund or youth fund I don't have money but I can empower a youth with an idea I've been in art industry till I went to the university that is powering people I'm coming empowering people that's giving people power if they have power they have control now if they have control you see so the issue should be empowering these youths now let me come to our dear one who has said that education can come again it's called aspirin ok there's a big difference between profession and education there's a communication missing there the reason why I say education is important is this when you look at leadership in the context of understanding leadership is like a skill now while I'm doing my CV to apply it to a company for job I'll mention there's part of my leadership interpersonal blah blah blah as I go now the reason why I said education is this once you are a state officer you are in charge like in my word I get to be in charge of over 30,000 people 30,000 people as much as I have the skill I need to have education to run those people if for example the county government with the bbi thing if it goes through Nairobi will not have the governorship right if the national government back to the grass root it gives me say 100 million skill will not distribute how will I ensure that each and every area of my word gets equitable distribution of these projects faithfully wisdom wisdom and that's why we have accountants I forgot to say I'm an accountant by profession I forgot to say I'm an accountant by profession so I will champion for as much as we have the skill but we also need education to run these public offices that's why we love this problem in fact it helps us to become under what to call self audience what I need to spend what is supposed to happen alright thank you so much as you ask your question you will be giving as your your final answer I have a question for you if you for instance was to get into county government in 2022 will you announce for job positions for you to come in your office will you ask people to come and apply for job positions in your office or are you first going to give priority to the people that campaigned for you that's not where we come on the issue of intelligence just jibu what will you do that's what I mean because Eric not Eric but Hillary if I can sum up everything and it's alright to the answer whichever the answer is I've been working for an MP 2018 between March and September as a researcher or actually communications person in parliament and there's a culture a system that exists in these places a former mayor in Nairobi told me why there are kandjo kandjo I'm telling you you cannot bring the kind of justice you want to your people why people for the longest time politicians for the longest time have been employing people that worked for them in their campaigns to go and do very crucial and important roles allow me to respond to her remarks and we are out of time just for the last time as an individual this is what we call rewarding your closest loyalist now let me come this is what we call rewarding your closest loyalist and this is what we call government procedures on job because job is not mine I as an MCA I don't give jobs that is what people need to understand you don't need jobs but there is an advertisement from public service commission let's say in county assembly you can only advise them to apply let me tell you something 90% of offices election offices or whatever offices in Nairobi in Kenya they have 70% of the staff people that campaigned for them and these people that is one of the things I had to struggle with every other single morning as I went to work because people think the moment you ask hey I saw the government signed that the total expenditure in this office whatever is going to be added by 50% if you are spending 110 million whatever I am expecting a pay rise from 23,000 to this number of thousand for a tigal or for a secretary that should happen but go to these offices try counting the number of faces and heads working in those offices they are even ghosts while we were growing up when we were kids we were told that we are the change for tomorrow the change has to start in me so it's high time we stop generalizing these issues and address them as individual no it's high time we start addressing the people addressing the people thank you so much Eric whether for coming and trying to put that into place apparently you couldn't have Hillary you didn't tell me to say I'm a journalist by profession and a communication practitioner yes 30 seconds 30 seconds please director will kill me 30 seconds please sign up and say what you wanted us to know about ok thank you I'm a journalist by profession my third year fourth year trying to get in a mass all kind of whatever experience to be able to get a job in future in these TV stations and also like to say that I'm a digital security trainer I train people how to use the devices and I'm well online and I'm a farmer and I'm sending my love and warmth to the people of Kayole and the way we said we are having an MOU with our future leaders that we as the people we are inviting you but this is number one we want this number two we want this because that is the only way change is going to come in Kayole thank you well my name is Eric Makoha an accountant by profession also a tax consultant and yes come 2022 I'll be vying for MCA position in Mountain View Ward Westlands constituency I hope for your love and I'm also sending my love to all my Westlands people God bless you and thank you Hilary you very much welcome thank you so much lady and gentlemen Wajira and Eric for coming I trust you have learned something regarding the constitution leadership and integrity he's vying so to tamuza tabela kwa toa keshule gani kuna system thank you so much for being part of us we'll be taking a very short commercial break and when we come back we look now into lifestyle the art culture how does it pay how is it helping what are you doing about your talent and gifts keep it Y254 and why in the morning we'll be taking a short break I'm Dereva Hilary good morning