 Mamuwepe mpensim tizamajo ispimbaz, Niko Kando yad the best afrikaz pianist. Tumasa za kusia. Yes sir. Mamuwepe. Pa kabisa. Nidimu mojim to this? Ya, my name is Aaron Shibui and I do everything music, play the piano, keyboards and ya just good vibes. Good vibes only. Kabisa. Kabisa. Naju wa safari me kwa emi akamingi sana. Absolutely. But you've been there in the industry, you vote so to soul maybe the first performance, the first deal, the first gig up to now as a father in the industry, a big brother in the industry. How was so to soul joining? Oh my God. Today was history. I met so to soul almost 16 years ago. I think they were still called sauti if I'm not wrong. So and I've been with them since the very very beginning when they were opening acts for many other artists. And then now when Lazizi was a hit song, when we were performing it actually when I was doing my stint at Project Fame. Kus every so often songs that will show up like they want to do sauti soul songs. So now to come to this and seeing this witnessing their 20-year journey. And just the culmination of such great talent and work. And then for me kus for me to come for this show, I put them in New York when they did the US tour. So they asked me you know what you want would like you to come and play. I just told them like this is probably one of the most fulfilling shows I've ever done in my life. So and just to see this great moment in Kenyan music history. Man lost for words. Fantastic. Now maybe just to check you back, what is your first encounter with sauti soul? At Eric when I was wedding actually. That's why I met them. I was actually walking in kus I was playing with Eric and then I had them rehearsing. So I went upstairs and asked them like who are those kus downstairs. So like oh is this guy called sauti soul you know. So I wanted to introduce myself. Then then officially was at a show myself in Kanjibugwa used to do called Live in the Village right here at the carnival. And they were they came we were like these guys are incredible talent. So that was 2008 early 2008 that's my first time to interact with them. I don't think maybe you can say maybe a music musical lesson you've learned you as a big brother in the industry from sauti soul. Just to be consistent and to push push the bar. Take it as far as you can. Even when sometimes the culture or the scene may not give you back. What you thought you after putting on after putting everything you sometimes you want to just to give me something. But they've they've really sacrificed and they've just kept at it. So for me that that that is that is true artistry. Yes sorry just to ask you this you know Kenyans will just see sauti soul as just like the ordinary you know band you know. What is that Kenyans will miss from sauti soul? Great artistry. Good singing, good writing, good arranging just good songs. You saw it three hours show and everyone singing each and every song. They sang all the songs and then playing with them and then witnessing and hearing. You know when you're on stage and you hear the audience sing back to you the music. It's moving and so for me I'm like where else do you hear such good tunes? And they've been able to write such such I call them songs for life. You can remember when you first La Hadla Zizi or Nishike or Surayako or Suzana you know. That these moments in they just know how to capture moments. Of course the soul have dominated in the so many things in the industry international you know. Now what do you think is next for sauti soul? I think they say that they're going on a hiatus so I think it's time for self discovery which is good. Especially in groups where you need find yourself so that you can be able to even offer way more inside the group. So they're taking time out to discover and then I think when the next time we hear them and see a show. I think even we will be even way more floored than it was today. I think it's a new season for them. So of course Bien is doing his own records. You know they have their own musical endeavors they want to do. So I think that's the next thing for them. Okay you're in the right position to tell me you know. For many artists when they're in a group or band when they try to maybe to give themselves a break maybe to split. Not everyone will always survive you know. What is it keeps one to stand out from the rest when you want maybe decide to go solo? I think it's just the groups where people can go solo but still stay in the group. Like I think of a group one of the most famous pop rock pop rock groups is Maroon 5. PJ Motown who plays with them has a thriving career alone. So for them they are brothers they have known each other as kids. So it's not even it transcends even the music. Imagine the same faces you've seen almost all your life. So I think that's what will keep them. They've got also their investments so generation is still there. So they've got other things that they still do together. So this is just a musical creative break for them. Let's talk about now you walking with Ben Bien. Let's talk about Buemboi. Did you imagine maybe one day you'll be a national one? You know for me as a because I started out as a kiburis playing jazz, playing accompanying many musicians. So for me it was just we were surprised. I was surprised you know because when we the first song released from that Baldwin EP myself and Bien was the Baldwin Anthem which did quite well. But Buemboi just went somewhere else. We were catching up with it. It went and disappeared. We were like wow. So soon we think your Baldwin love better too. So that's the thing that me and him will be doing for just a fun project to do. And the same thing five songs. And of which one is the Roomba. So in a wait check out the next new Roomba. Oh man the next one is going to be nuts. That's what I can say. If you thought Buemboi was great, now we'll listen to the next one. What is one thing maybe you walking with Bien? You've learned from Bien. You see my foray with Bien got me to see the pop world. Which in turn ended up working for me because I've been touring with Tiwa Savage for the last two years. So it's just a whole new world of how pop. Pop scene, Afro pop, Afro beats. So I think walking with Bien I was smaq thrown into the pop world. So that for me that was fantastic. No. Mine is a kuliza iswali because you're in the right place to tell us. You know when you were there during TASCA project of film. So many artists came and maybe most of them became successful. Kulukola kufazation pa le online wana sema. Orgisha TASCA project of film. Do you think it's the right time maybe TASCA to have TASCA project of film back? And then it has a wasa idea wasani? You know I want to say that now that depends now on because project of film is a franchise that is sponsored by TASCA. So project of film exists by itself because this project of film is all over the world. So there's always room for talent shows and competitions. So now I don't know, I can't speak for EABL but that was a good show. Great talent and it's also entertaining so why not? Of course I know so many artists that are looking maybe forward to work with you. Maybe they want to feature you in the songs. What is it you're looking more on an artist before you have a collaboration with an artist? Vibe, vibe, vibe. So you don't vibe? Vibe and also skill. Vibe and skill. You have to be really good. I live in New York so skill has to be way up there. Is there maybe an artist maybe you're looking for maybe to work? Given a chance? I haven't really thought because you know I've been busy but that's a good question. Next time I could tell you who I think I'm thinking. But I like Ben Soul. Ben Soul. Alright, let me end this for you. Cool. Thanks man. Thank you very much for keeping us doing this thing and for always supporting us. Always making us want to do this all over every time. Every every time. Thanks man.