 G'day guys well we're here at the NRCA Futurity in Fort Worth, Texas and we've just come across a really incredible story which isn't done very often in the reigning cow horse industry it's done a lot in the cutting and we're joined by Pete Rogan from Tamworth in Australia who took it upon himself to decide you know what I'm going to buy a horse and they come and ride it in the Futurity here and Pete's had a hell of a show and congratulations Pete and welcome. Thank you. Pete this is a really tough sport what made you decide you wanted to come and take this challenge on? I used to show cow horses a lot of years ago in Australia when it was active and I really enjoyed it then and you know I enjoy watching them on the lodge, feeds on the web and stuff and I thought well I learned more about this this will probably help me more with my sale horses and stuff back home then if I came and rode some cutting horses for a while helped me get a more broke and make a more marketable to the campground rough market back home which is mostly what I get to do with my horses through lack of time I just get started culting train them up a little bit and sell them and go from there so. You're a non-professionals that means you've got to you know you've got to own the horse that you that you compete on so how did you do your research on finding a horse? I'd met Annie Reynolds last year and you what a longtime breeder she had been of these very smart Ramney liner horses and right back to her old foundation mares knew what an incredible line of horses they were and how successful Annie had been as a non-pro and yeah when I met Annie we talked about things a bit and you know I said to her I'd like to have a go at a fertility horse some stage would you be interested in training one for me and you know if I bought one from you and helped me with it and she said yeah and it went from there. So when did you come over how long ago did you come over? I flew in on the 29th of August and yeah did the deal with Annie then and bought the mare after I got here and tried her I'd seen some videos of her of course but we finalized the deal then and it went from there I've been trying to learn how to catch ride since. Well tell me about the competition in the standard how how how's it been and how's it felt? No it's been a really high standard the standard in the non-pro was probably higher than I thought it would be from watching the live feeds and that that I've got to back home and I think there was three girls in the finals that had all won at multiple times before and yeah they really know how to show these people over here and in every different phase of it and I hadn't done any dry work or down the fence for probably close to 30 years and haven't shown cutting horses very much in recent years back home so yeah it's been a big learning curve for me and I had to adjust to a lot of things quickly and you know Annie kind of said to me a few weeks back you had a lot to learn when you got here but you've been learning really quickly so it went from there. And what are your plans with the horse? At this stage I'm thinking that we'll leave her here a bit longer I'd like to try and show her in the staying stakes non-pro and the derby non-pro and then put her in fall to one of the big time horses here it'll be commercial in Australia and we'll get her out home. We're going to fall off her and she'll probably draft for a season or two to get a name for herself out home and we'll go from there with the breeding babies. Well she's got earnings on her already how much have you won? I believe it's between $18,000 and $19,000 or I wanted this show. That's great that pays for the airfare. So what's your advice to anyone else that may want to do something like this? I think it would be a lot of fun for you know, champion drafters could have a go at it but they'd have an awful lot to learn about the dry work and probably the herd work too and yeah it's more difficult than I thought it was going to be. After going through this competition that's extremely hard on the horses these three-year-old horses to be good in all three phases and just physically it's really strenuous for them come finals day doing it all three in one day and I really have a new appreciation of how good these horses are and how tough it is for them. Right and would you say what were some of the skills you learned from working with these horses and with Annie? Just about getting these horses so relaxed getting their head and neck down low and he's really kind to horses really loves the horses and I never saw any you know what people back home and call hard people being hard at horses or anything it's just getting them really relaxed and yeah they can't do this job if they're not relaxed and confident in everything that they're doing and just getting them so broke just soft in their face getting their backs up and yeah they've got to know an awful lot of stuff to do the three different events and and the events don't always help each other kind of the skills that you need for dry work are a little bit counter productive in some ways when you come to working a cow and yeah. And so how long are you leaving flying out tomorrow? We fly out Monday night yeah get straight back to work back at Tamworth and I'll get looking forward to getting back on some horses as soon as I got home I've got a couple of nice cults to start and yeah we'll go from there. Well that's good our final of the actual open is about to start so the anticipation's pretty yes strong here and Todd Bergen's got three in the final we've got Justin Wright's got two Corey Cushan's got two it's going to be a great night and it's really full of anticipation so congratulations and thanks for joining us and hopefully we'll see you next year. Thank you very much Duncan really.