 Okay, everybody I think it's 430. So we can thank you all. So we can go ahead and get started. Okay, so with that, I'd like to call to order this September 8 2022 meeting of the Santa Rosa Planning Commission, and I'd like to read the following statement. Due to the provisions of the governor's executive orders and dash 25 dash 20 and in dash 29 dash 20 which suspend certain requirements with Brown Act and the order of the health officer of the county of Sonoma to shelter in place to minimize the spread of COVID-19 planning commission will be conducting today's meeting in a very virtual setting using zoom zoom webinar commissioners and staff are participating from remote locations and are practicing appropriate social distancing members of the public may view and listen to this meeting as noted on the city's website and as noted on today's agenda. Members of the public wishing to speak during item for public comment period or during our public hearing items tonight will be able to do so by raising their hand and will be given the ability to address the commission. So with that, if you could please call roll. Thank you. Commissioner Carter. Here. Mr Cisco. Here. Mr Duggan. Here. Mr Holton. Here. Mr Ocropke. Here. Vice chair Peterson is not present. Chair weeks. Here. But the record reflects that all members of the commission are present with the exception of vice chair Peterson. Thank you. Thank you. And he will be absent for the remaining of the for the remainder of the meeting. So, so with that, move on to item two, which is approval of minutes, which we have no minutes tonight. So we'll go right to item three public comments. If so, I will go and open the now and open the public comments for any item not included in this meeting's agenda. If you wish to make a comment. Please. Do so by using the raised hand feature on zoom. If you're dialing in via telephone, please dial star nine to raise your hand. Each speaker has three minutes. A countdown timer showing on the screen for your convenience. Please make sure to unmute yourself when you're invited to do so and your microphone will be muted at the end of that countdown. I don't see that we have anybody. Okay. Do you see anybody? Sorry, chair, we have no raised hands at this time. Thank you so much. So with that, I'll go ahead and close the public comment period and bring it back to item four planning commissioners report. Our statement of purpose is as follows. The planning commission is charged with carrying out the California planning and zoning laws within the city of Santa Rosa. Duties include implementing plans and ordinances and policies relating to land use matters. Assisting in writing and implementing the general plan and area plan holding public hearings and acting on proposed changes to the zoning code zoning map general plan tentative subdivision map. We're also undertaking special planning studies as needed. So with that, we'll go to item 4.2. Are there any reports from either subdivision or waterways? Okay, not seeing any. Then we'll go to 4.3 commissioners report. Are there any reports by my fellow commissioners tonight? Okay, seeing shaking heads. We will go ahead and then move on to department reports. Good afternoon. I actually do not have a department report today. Okay. Thank you. So then we'll go to item six statement of abstentions. Are there any abstentions on the two items before us tonight? Okay, not seeing any. So we'll go ahead and move on to the consent items, which we have none, and then on to our first scheduled item tonight. It's item 8.1. It's a public hearing flora Tara. Okay. Hi. So we have a new project conditional use permit for 575 Highway 12 Number B or letter B, CUP 21-097. This is an expert item. So we'll go ahead and start with Commissioner Carter. Yeah. I visited the site and I have nothing further to disclose. Thank you. Commissioner Cisco. I visited the site and I have no new information to disclose. Dougan. I have nothing to disclose. Thank you. Commissioner Holton. I visited the site, I have nothing further to disclose. Thanks. And Commissioner Crepeke. I visited the site, I have nothing further to disclose. Thank you. And I also visited the site and have nothing further to disclose. So with that, we'll go to Mr. Cali for this item. Thank you, Chair Weeks. And we're back in numbers of the planning commission. So I will start sharing my screen and I'll turn the camera off. So as you mentioned, this is the conditional use permit for the project at 45755 Watesville Street 3. The applicant is requesting a conditional use permit to allow the commercial cannabis retail dispensary use instead of cannabis smoking devices. It's in existing commercial building. Hours of operation will be from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. daily. And the project site is between the north-eastern quadrant of the city at the corner of High Watesville and Mission Ward. The zone is neighborhood commercial, consistent with the general prime language designation of retail and business services. The nearby land use or mix of commercial offices, restaurants, and some residential visas. The current existing businesses between this shopping center include a grocery store and the mattress store. The parcel right adjacent to the north side is already developed with their commercial uses, including restaurants, cleaners, a salon, and a convenience store. And there are two parcels at the east side. At the east side, one is currently an undeveloped lot. It's a vacant lot. And the other parcel is a little between with a single finally residence. And a brief summary of the project this week. The neighborhood meeting was held on October 18 last year. And in December, the application for a conditional use permit was submitted, which was being completed in June. And this map here shows the locations of the dispensaries in this area and schools near the project site. The zone input establishes a 600 foot buffer for Canada's dispensary facilities and 600 foot for schools. As you can see, there are four Canada's facilities existing and proposed in this area, but none of them are between the 600 foot requirement and including the project site, which is labeled with the red star. Out of these four sites, two of the dispensaries are already operating. One is located at 4880 Highway 12 and the one at 4036 Montgomery Avenue. And one is the current project. And the other one on the left side is already under the review ending process. And here is a site land that shows the existing building and the parking lot. The proposed project would occupy the existing commercial building. It used to be a coffee shop. It was a Starbucks. And the commercial site shares a total of 53 parking spaces with the existing businesses. And no additional parking spaces would be required for this project that is recommending an existing retail space. And the number of required parking spaces for dispensaries is very lower than the coffee shop. And here is a closer look at Suite B. And here is the floor plan. The proposed facility would include a retail area and office and a storage room. And the applicant is not proposing any cannabis delivery to the customers from the site. And here are the existing elevations and no exterior changes are being proposed to site. And as you may know, there are some general operational requirements for commercial cannabis facilities, including other mitigation plans, security plan and delivery plan. The project applicant has submitted a project description that includes details about proposed security measures which show operational compliance with all applicable security measures established by our zoning code. And the applicant has also submitted a certified order control plan that shows compliance with the city's cannabis order standards. And also the project will be required to comply with the city's lighting and noise ordinance, which will reduce potential conflict with nearby residential users. And as I mentioned, there are no deliveries proposed from the site. So no delivery plan was needed for the project. And since the neighborhood meeting was held last year in October, staff has received late emails, all opposing the project. Comments include the location is too close to residential uses and schools in this area and would sell cannabis and related products in a family oriented neighborhood. The use will increase the traffic in the area. Expression of general opposition of recreational cannabis uses. The use will attract more homeless people in the neighborhood and increase loitering and drug consumption in this area. And concerns about safety and security within the neighborhood. Staff has responded to those emails and that will give you a brief summary of the responses. So as you may know, in December 2017, the city council adopted an ordinance for commercial cannabis after the state of California after the sale of cannabis for adult use. And our ordinance does not regulate setbacks to residential uses. The only setbacks regulated by the cannabis ordinance are the distances from schools and distance from other cannabis dispensaries. The proposed dispensary is located more than 600 feet from the schools in this area and also 600 feet from other dispensaries. Therefore, it meets our ordinance regulations. About traffic, a traffic report was prepared by WTrans, reviewed by the city staff, by the traffic division and no additional requirements were placed on the project. The report has concluded that the project would result in a less than significant transportation impact. And the applicant, as I mentioned about the requirements for the cannabis operational regulation that the applicant has provided a security plan that mentions a security personnel will be on site during the average of operation and that would monitor the activities on the site. And that is also required by the state. And as for SICWA, the proposed project has been reviewed in compliance with the California Environmental Quality Act. And staff has determined the project's called Qualifiers for Tree Capitol Recall Exemptions. And with that, the planning and economic role of the department recommends that the planning commission by resolution approve a conditional use journey for cannabis ritual dispensary use, including sale of cannabis smoking devices for the property located at 4575 Highway 12 Sweet Beach. The applicant is available. They don't have any PowerPoint. They will only have she actually Alicia will have only an oral presentation. And that was my presentation. If you don't have any question for me, you can hear what Alicia has to say. Thank you, Mr. Collie. Are there any questions of Mr. Collie at this time? See anything? I'm sorry. Did you say does the applicant have a presentation? Only oral presentation, no PowerPoint. Okay, so then let's go ahead and hear from the applicant. And then after that, we will go ahead and have the public hearing on this item. Good evening, everyone. This is Alicia Wingerd, and I am here today with my husband, David. I feel like at this point, I've seen many of you in the past for other projects. So, you know, we want to thank you for seeing us once again for this third location. So as Monet said, we are at 4575 Highway 12. And David and I have been successfully operating Floretera. We have our existing location in Coffee Park. We have been approved for our second location on Highway or on, I'm sorry, on 4th Street, which is currently undergoing, you know, the permitting process and construction. And we're looking forward to getting that operational. And now we're looking towards our third project. So as we've said before, we are compliant operators. I think I'd first just like to touch on the concerns from the public. You know, increased traffic, we did have a traffic study conducted by WTrans. I do believe we have a representative from WTrans if there's any questions to them on that. But the outcome of that traffic study is that we are going to experience a significant decrease in traffic compared to the previous use, which was a Starbucks, which means, you know, less people in and out, less parking requirements, et cetera. The concerns about it being too close to homes and or schools, you know, we are within the regulations set forth by the city over 600 feet from any school. And when it comes to loitering and or onsite consumption, that's not something that we allow at any of our facilities, nor will we ever. We're not willing to risk our license so somebody can consume in the parking lot. It's just not what we're what we're looking for. And then, you know, when it comes to people loitering, we do have onsite security while we're present. And our security guards are very comfortable, you know, having interactions with homeless people. It happens in coffee park frequently since we're at the end of an industrial street and we just, you know, politely ask them to move on. And then, I mean, overall, we really can't, you know, control the homeless. But we'll do our best to keep the entire vicinity free from loitering. When it comes to security, we will have, you know, the same security, similar security things that are happening now where, you know, high definition cameras, 90 day retention per state regulations, an alarm system that's professionally monitored 24-7. We'll try to leverage our distribution license to that area so we minimize the number of deliveries to and from our vendors. Again, providing additional jobs to our local community members, you know, is something that we're really excited to do. And really, the goal being close to the neighborhoods is so we can serve the community members in the neighborhoods. I think at the last meeting that, when we were speaking last, I believe it was Jeff O'Cruppy had mentioned that the design of the cannabis policy was so each neighborhood had a spot to go. It shouldn't be that there's, you know, one in an industrial space tuckback or shove them all on the pinear road because that truly is what's happening is that if we kind of put them sporadically throughout the city neighborhoods, you know, people can walk over. If they're going to the market that's right next door, then they can also come over to us if they're buying a mattress from mattress from and they need to pop in and buy some cannabis while they're out and about. It gives our community the ability to do shopping by minimizing the number of trips that they're spending, you know, going to and from their house and other places. What else? You know, again, it'll be the similar model to our existing location. It'll be, you know, boutique style wine country design cannabis boutique. And we really look forward to expanding our network within the city and, you know, having a bigger footprint so we can continue to serve our community. And that's really all I have for you today. And I appreciate your time. And we really look forward to the opportunity to open up another location. Thank you. Are there any questions of Ms. Weingard? Okay. Not seen any. I will go ahead. Excuse me. I'll go ahead and open the public hearing for this item. If you wish to make a comment via Zoom, please select the raised hand button. If you're dialing in via telephone, please dial star nine to raise your hand. Each speaker will have three minutes. There's the countdown timer on the screen for your convenience. And please make sure to unmute yourself when you're invited to do so. And your microphone will be muted at the end of the three minutes. So, Ms. Host, do we have any hands raised for this item? We have no hands raised at this time. Okay. So we'll just wait half a minute more. Okay. Seeing none, I will go ahead then and close the public hearing on this item and bring it back to the commission. So, this item has one resolution. And if somebody would like to move that resolution, that would be great. Or if you have other questions or concerns, we can take that now and then somebody can enter the resolution after. So, any questions, concerns? Does somebody want to read the resolution? Commissioner Krapke. Yeah, I'll move a resolution of the planning commission of the city of Saint Rosa, approving a conditional use permit for flora terra to allow a type 10 commercial cannabis retail dispensary use and sale of cannabis smoking devices within an existing 2031 square foot building located at four, five, seven, five, highway 12, street B, a census parcel number 182-490-013, file number CUP 21-097 and wait for the reading of the text. Thank you. Is there a second? Second. Okay. Commissioner Holton. So that was moved by Commissioner Krapke, seconded by Commissioner Holton. So we'll go ahead and have comments now on the item. So we'll start with Commissioner Carter. Yeah, this is a pretty straightforward application, neighborhood commercial use proposal in an existing neighborhood commercial facility. It serves a part of town where this particular use has not been oversaturated and we've been looking for opportunities to provide this service on the eastern side of town. It looks pretty straightforward to me and I think I can make all of the necessary findings to support the project. Thank you. Commissioner Siscoe. Hi, as I agree with Commissioner Carter on all of his points and I can make the findings for this conditional use permit. Thank you. Commissioner Duggan. I too can make all the required findings and I echo the comments of Commissioner Siscoe and Carter and also I think it's nice to see a project that is not going to change the footprint and re-tenant an existing unoccupied space and I also want to give thanks to to Miss Shaquille for her respectful and informational responses. I think that's kind of shows why we don't have a lot of public comment here tonight on this item. Simon support the project. Thank you. Commissioner Holton. Well I love going after Commissioner Duggan. She always just wraps it all up in one little package so I can echo the sentiments of all my fellow commissioners and that this was a very well put together regular proposals straightforward so I'm in support of it of the conditional use permit. Thank you and Commissioner Krepke. Yeah I echo the thoughts of my fellow commissioners and I think just because we haven't had a dispensary application come forward a few months it's worth repeating you know we do see a lot of the same concerns come forth from the public and I think you know one thing I would love to see more education on on this going forward but as far as like homelessness and crime we tend to see that homelessness and and voidering are reduced around dispensaries because of lighting in cameras. Crime the statistics don't bear out that there's an increase in crime. The police department come forward before us and councils saying that you know that doesn't actually happen and in terms of the distances schools and residential uses you know it fits the general plan it fits zoning our hands are pretty much tied on making anything that would be policy because that's not what we do we're not a make policy make the body so all that again I'll just say I can make all the required findings to support the application. Thank you and I also can make all the required findings it is a very well put together application and it's consistent with all of our regulations and I do I agree with Commissioner Duggan about retenanting an existing building I think it's a great use of that site. So with that we will go ahead and call for the vote please. Apologies for the delay. Commissioner Carter? Aye. Commissioner Sisko? Aye. Commissioner Duggan? Aye. Commissioner Holton? Aye. Commissioner Ocracke? Aye. Commissioner Week? I'm sorry Chair Weeks? Aye. So that passes with six ayes commit or vice chair Peterson being absent so then we'll move on to our next item oh I'm sorry I do need to read verbiage regarding any appeal so please note that this action is final unless an appeal is filed within 10 calendar days of today's action the time limit will extend to the following business day if the last day falls on a day that the city is closed for information on how to submit an appeal form please contact the project planner so thank you so with that we'll go ahead and move to item 8.2 which is public hearing Kiwana Village Extensions Planning Project 1310 Kiwana Terrace PRJ 18-029 and EXT 22-005 and this is an exparte item so we'll go ahead and start with Commissioner Carter. I have nothing to disclose on this item. Thank you. Commissioner Sisko? I have nothing to disclose on this item. Thank you. Commissioner Duggan? I have nothing to disclose. Commissioner Holton? I also have nothing to disclose. Thank you and Commissioner Krepke? I have nothing to disclose. Okay and I also have nothing to disclose so with that we'll start with Mr. Wixen who will give our presentation this evening. Okay thank you Chair Weeks. Yes my name is Mike Wixen and I am the project planner for this particular project. This project before you tonight is a request, it's actually two separate requests each to extend the tentative map for one year and if approved it would extend the life of the tentative map to June 12th 2023. The tentative map also has two associated permits with it. One is a small lot conditional use permit and the other is a hillside development permit. And again if this is approved tonight as tentative map extensions the director then would act on the other two items separately following tonight's hearing. Next slide please. The this slide basically shows the location of the project site. You can see that it's three parcels, three separate parcels. It's about 4.2 acres or actually a little bit more. And this slide basically shows that there are a few trees on the site and towards the south end and as well some existing homes. The area to the west is currently being developed with single family residential units. And if we could go to the next slide please. The next slide is general plan and zoning. It's in R16 zone. The project is also in medium low density residential land use area for 8 to 13 units per acre. The project is consistent with the R16 zone and as it meets the hillside development standards as well. Even though that's not exactly what you're hearing tonight you're just looking at the tentative map. There are hillside development standards in the map that still need to be met. The general plan also is the density is met that the project has an overall density of 8.1 units per acre. So that density requirement is met. The next slide please. And this is a picture of the tentative map itself. And so to the left side of the image here is headed to the north and to the right side of the image is south. Again it's two separate one year time extensions for the tentative map and the request is to divide 4.82 acres into 39 single family plots. We've got a lot of them. Okay. Okay. So the project would allow for the development that the way that these homes are being broken out on site is for 39 lots it will also be for 39 units. 12 of those units will be duet units very similar to a duplex unit. They're attached but each would have its own lot and there are 12 duet units on the project site. And then there are 27 detached single family units each on its own lot as well. The lots range in size from approximately 2,500 square feet to just over 9,500 square feet. And again as I hope I mentioned if I didn't the lot meets all the requirements of a small lot subdivision as well. So the next slide please. This slide is a visual image just depicting kind of breakout of the subdivision that the brown units or the brown lots are the duet units. And you can see the number of duet units. There are six overall but if you multiply that by two you have 12 duet units each in total. I'm sorry. And then you have the 27 single family homes shown in both yellow and green. And the green lots are the lots which are subject to the hillside development standards as well. And so the yellow and green lots are all the single standard single family dwelling lots that we'll have. It's just a standard single family home on the lot. All of the homes are proposed to be two-story. Each unit is approximately 1,500 square feet maybe a little bit more up to 2,428 square feet for the larger single detached single family homes. And then the duet units will all have 1,509 square feet of living space in each unit. And as well they will be two stories. The larger lots have a coverage of about 20 percent just just under 20 percent while the small lots have a lot coverage of about 50 percent. Next slide please. And this slide is just to depict that the project is still consistent with the city's housing action plan the slide just demonstrates that the project will be made up of market rate housing. As such the 39 units make up about 1.5 percent of the city's 51 percent market rate housing units included in the city's housing action plan. Next slide please. So just a brief history neighborhood meeting was held on this project back all the way back in 2005 the site was annexed into the city by the city council in 2007 the development advisory committee reviewed the project in March 2008 the planning commission then subsequently approved the mitigated negative decoration and the tentative map the small lot conditional use permit and the hillside development permit on June 12th 2008 and then through a series of automatic extensions provided by the state legislature the map was extended to 2017 and the planning commission again approved the map as with a one-year extension or until June 12th 2018 next slide please. So subsequent to that last date that I gave you there was a one-year time extension application submitted by the applicant prior to that on April 15th 2018 and that is actually the subject of one of the time extension requests that's before you today. Following that extension application and the date on that extension application the city council put into place two one-year automatic time extensions for projects such as this one so with those two one-year time extensions and the state then also granting another automatic extension of two years that would in total bring the expiration date of the project to June 12th 2022 or just a few months ago basically. The applicant prior to that date of June 12th 2022 filed a third one-year time extension and this is this time extension is also before you today and that is to extend the project to June 12th 2023 and again this is the second request before you today each of these time extensions has its own separate resolution attached to your report so as you get to that point this next slide please I'm sorry this is an exhibit depicting the parking for the project site as a small lot project parking is always examined a little bit more closely if you look very closely which it's hard to see in this image but street A is a little bit narrower than the other street that intersects and I'm forgetting Raphael street is the other street that intersects it and then to the left and up to the top side of the project or the north side of the project is Coana Terrace as a primary road so the narrower street street A with the current requirements for fire department access the parking becomes a little bit more limited on the street itself so after reviewing this with the project applicant we basically concluded that there would need to be a condition that all of the detached single family units which are 27 of them wouldn't necessitate an 18-foot wide driveway in order to accommodate a total of four parking spaces on each of those single family dwelling sites but at least two parking spaces in the driveway and so with that recommended condition and in a grade two condition it would provide a total of 159 parking spaces within the entire subdivision where only 138 parking spaces would be required so it obviously and adequately meets the zoning code requirement for adequate parking for the project site and that is why this parking exhibit was included tonight just to bring that to your attention the next slide please so as I mentioned previously there was a mitigated negative declaration approved by the planning commission back in 2008 it was then reaffirmed in 2018 and its extension application the previous mitigated negative declaration is still appropriate for the project since the scope of the project remains unchanged and there really is no new information of substantial importance that would otherwise require additional environmental analysis so it still is a valid document that we are recommending to be to stay with the project and then next slide please and finally we're recommending that the planning commission approve the two separate resolutions that are attached to the report each to extend the subdivision one year with an added condition to ensure the adequate parking will exist in the project the new project expiration date with these approvals would be June 12th 2023 and the next slide please basically that concludes my presentation if there's somebody in the audience that wanted to discuss this project further this is where I can be reached and I'd be happy to discuss it with whomever is inclined to call and wants to talk about it and with that that concludes my presentation thank you Mr. Wixen does the applicant have a presentation that you know of? I don't believe so okay thank you so commissioners are there any questions of Mr. Wixen so we'll start with commissioner Cisco yeah just checking did the resolutions that we have in our packet include that condition that you were speaking about yes they do okay okay yes good thanks any other questions before we go ahead and open the public hearing on this okay so with that I will go ahead and open the public hearing if you wish to make a comment via zoom please select the raised hand button if you're dialing in via telephone please dial star nine to raise your hand we will have three minutes at countdown time we're showing on the screen for your convenience please make sure to unmute yourself and you're invited to do so and your microphone will be muted at the end of that countdown so madame host are there any members of the public we do miss mandor reid miss reid I am giving you permission to speak if you would please start your comment by providing your name for the record thank you miss reid I don't see that she has a microphone um so and now her hand is down the mouse back up miss reid you have been given permission to speak if you don't have a microphone you may need to call into the meeting the call-in number is 877-853-5257 with the meeting ID of 870-8208-7939 can you hear me now yes we can I'm so sorry we're having trouble navigating the website or it's just zoom it's just forgive us um we're at 1320 Cuantaris we're literally right next door to this entire development and we have concerns um my name at your name for the record my name is Amanda Reed REID I live at 1320 Cuantaris and also present is my husband Chris Bernard thank you go ahead um we we've known about this for a very long time this is a family property I'm third generation here my concern mostly at this point is that there's been so much development in the area since this was approved in 2018 that I'm concerned that perhaps some of the things that were seemed reasonable as far as impact and traffic and that sort of thing um I'm wondering when is there an extension like period where they can't just keep asking for extensions where the whole thing has to be kind of restarted or at least reevaluated from the beginning we will ask the questions of the planner once you finish your comments okay thank you for clarifying um so that's one question is can they just keep reapplying for extensions just re-extending and re-extending that was my one concern also because of the traffic in the area with the new um 31 degrees and then there's also another subdivision and then this little subdivision that we're discussing is the last thing in between us and all of these subdivisions we're concerned now more so than we were in 2008 that this is going to be more impactful there's also a park proposed to be up the street up Quantitaris as is the entrance to the park there's a daycare center across the street from us I'm not sure has ever been addressed as far as traffic there's no speed bumps there's no street speed signs things of what I would consider normal safety measures as we get more and more dense in this area I'm feeling that we're we're going to need some other mitigations happening that I'm not sure are being addressed in these re-occurring just we just keep read well and also privacy for us that's that's a big concern for us too is privacy we're losing but I understand that's just part of the plan and that kind of is what it is so that's just a concern of ours personally but more as a whole we're concerned about the impact and the current situation of the neighborhood as it is now as it was not this way in 2018 so I think that is our major concern is that things are re-evaluated in current time and not just given another extension and another extension and another extension assuming everything is as it was in 2008 because as you all know it is not so things have changed considerably in this neighborhood in the last five to seven years and I think our time is up thank you so much thank you are there any other does anybody else have their hands raised don't see anybody else so with that I will go ahead and close the public hearing on this item and Mr. Wixen could you address the concern that Ms. Reed and Mr. Bernard have about multiple extensions without looking at the existing conditions sure I'd be happy to so the city subdivision code allows for a maximum of four extension requests each for one year individually this application currently has requested this will be the third with both applications in front of you today so it'd be the second and third in between you know normally if something was approved in 2008 and you have four it will normally expire in 2012 however both the state and the city council have provided automatic time extensions based upon both economic conditions back in that at that time back in 2008 economic conditions more recently with the COVID as well as the fires that occurred in Santa Rosa so given those circumstances as well there are it's not the norm historically but both the city council and the state legislature have provided for other automatic time extensions and so with the normal time extensions added to those the request now would be to grant the time to 2023 July 12th so hopefully that addresses that issue so they would have they could ask for one more extension correct that then would put it to 24 and then after that what would happen if after that it would need to be resubmitted completely as a new project and processed as such okay thank you uh any questions of Mr. Wixen at this time okay so would somebody uh like to enter the resolution and then we can start talking about it this is um as was stated in the staff presentation there's two resolutions so if you could read one but we'll talk about the project as a whole so would somebody like to enter the resolution thank you Commissioner Duggan I'll move a resolution of the Planning Commission of the City of Santa Rosa granting a one-year extension of time for the tentative map for the Kiwana Village subdivision located at 1166 Kiwana Terrace assessors parcel numbers 0440-051-027-019 and dash 025 file number EXT18-0031 and wave for the reading thank you uh is there a second Commissioner Carter thank you so that was moved by uh Commissioner Duggan seconded by Commissioner Carter Commissioner Carter do you want to start us off yeah I I think um what we have before us is a subdivision that we liked in 2008 and we liked uh twice before when we extended the um the subdivision approval the tentative map approval I do understand local concerns about a project this mature being approved under conditions that are seemingly different now but I think when when we did approve the subdivisions and the extensions earlier we were aware of the full extent of the of the development in this area and considered this among those issues and therefore I can make the resolution make the findings necessary for the resolutions and will be supporting both extensions thank you uh Commissioner Cisco yes I can also make the findings you know I do appreciate the um Ms. Reed and Mr. Barnard's comments but when these are originally approved we're already looking at the general plan and densities and all of that is already being factored in and as a part of what we make uh what we approve so and it it's a really drastic thing to deny an extension it's hasn't happened much in my career on here so um with that I I can make all of the findings as well as Commissioner Carter thank you uh didn't go to Commissioner Deggan I'm uh can make all the required findings and then support the resolution thanks Mr. Holton I can also make all the required findings and I'm also in support of the extension of both the the extent the extended tentative map and the extension for the hillside permit so yeah it's pretty straightforward and and unfortunately you know I know it's really tough to see the impending build out as it comes and you guys have a last neighborhood to bridge between that connection and it can get a little bit scary and we understand but you know there's a real need for housing and really a lot of those concerns are kind of outside of our purview so um you know we understand but uh but you know it's it meets all the required findings and and we're in support or I'm in support of this project thank you and then Commissioner Krepke yeah I don't think there's much more else to say that my fellow commissioners haven't seen already so um I can make all the required findings for both extensions and we'll be in support of both thank you and I also can make all the required findings on this resolution and in support of the project and as Commissioner Sisko mentioned you know we do take into consideration build out uh based upon the general plan and zoning when we look at projects so um so with that it was moved by Commissioner Duggan seconded by Commissioner Carter uh if you could please call for the vote Commissioner Carter hi Commissioner Sisko hi Commissioner Duggan hi Commissioner Holton hi Commissioner Krepke hi Chair Weeks hi so that passes with six eyes uh Vice Chair Peterson absent and if somebody could read the second resolution uh that would be great if if if I might Chair Weeks yes so I I think I misconvade how the extensions work with multiple extensions when you add the city council extension automatic extensions to it so I had explained that they are separate and individual whereas the city council time extensions actually do count as uh one of the optional time extensions that you can get from the subdivision map act as well so the subdivision map act my understanding is it provides for up to five years of time extensions and so with the this is my understanding with this second time extension that you're acting on now that would make it the fifth time extension and the last time extension so there would be no time extension following this action as I understand it okay thank you for that clarification so it basically it okay so that this would be it yes okay thank you so uh would somebody like to read the second resolution Commissioner Duggan thank you I'll move a resolution of the planning commission of the city of Santa Rosa granting a one-year extension of time for the tentative map for the Kiwana Village subdivision located at 1166 Kiwana Terrace assessors parcel numbers 044-051-027-019 and dash 025 file number ext 22-0005 and wait for the reading thank you uh is there a second Commissioner Carter thank you so um let's see Commissioner Carter uh comments I don't have any comments beyond beyond my initial ones I'll be supporting this resolution also okay thank you Commissioner um Cisco um I'll be supporting the resolution as well and can make all of the required findings Commissioner Duggan I can make all required findings and we'll support the resolution thanks Commissioner Holton I can make all the required findings and I'll be in support of the resolution thanks and then Commissioner Krapke I can make all the required findings and we'll be in support of the resolution thanks and I will can make all the required findings and we'll be in support of the resolution uh so with that um if you could go ahead and call the roll vote that would be great. Mr. Carter. Aye. Mr. Cisco. Aye. Mr. Duggan. Aye. Mr. Holton. Aye. Mr. Ocropke. Aye. Chair Weeks. Aye. So that passes with six Ayes and that is our final item for tonight but I do want to note that this action is final unless an appeal is filed within 10 calendar days of today's action. The time limit will extend to the following business day if the last day falls on a day that the city has closed and for information on how to submit an appeal form. Please contact the project planner on this item. So Ms. Hartman unless there's anything else you want us to address tonight we can all go and have a big glass of ice water. So with that I'll go ahead and adjourn the meeting and try and stay cool.