 But guys, today's topic of discussion is sexual assault and rape allegations. We have seen such conversations online on social media. And just the reason story is really Paul and Miss P. And I think two years ago, if you remember, Miss P came out to, you know, put claims on Posei saying, you know, allegedly he raped her. And just the other day, she has done another interview with Nicholas Kiyoko and the gate, she said that she embarrassed Posei in public and now she has come out to apologize in public. But guys are asking questions. Did she lie about these rape allegations? For me, I feel we do not have all the details of what happened, but she did apologize on the rape part. So my question would be, is this a relationship that went sour? For me, I feel like sexual assault is such a serious issue. We just don't wake up and say this and tomorrow we change your mind. I feel like legal action should be taken because, you know, you're ruining someone's reputation. This is someone who's built a career for years. And just like that, it can go down the drain. This whole situation, it just shows that when people lie about sexual assault, it affects the real victims. Very true. For sure. We will not even get justice. So it's wrong on all angles. And, you know, like they say sometimes for women, they fall in love easily. Okay, I also think men do sometimes. But for women, but do you just fall in love without actually just being told, you know, or being treated nicely or being hit on? What do you want to fall in love? Are just crazy. You are watching Friends Vibe. All feelings are represented. What's up, everybody? Welcome to S.P.M. buzzer. This is Friends Vibe and we are with you. Karibuni Sana, we have missed you. My good name is Miss Kithingi and I am joined by... The one and only Liz Jackson. Which girl? Liz Jackson? Which girl? My name is Ndanya. All right. Karibuni Sana, so much, guys. Make sure you subscribe. If you have not yet, kindly do so. As you can see the panel today is Girls Only. I'm going to talk to you later. I'm going to talk to you later. You'll talk to me later. I'm going to talk to you later. You're going to be so upset. I'm going to talk to you later. I'm going to talk to you later. I'm going to talk to you later. You're going to be upset. Okay. We will try our best. But, guys, today's topic of discussion is sexual assault and rape allegations. We have seen such conversations online on social media and just the reason story is really Paul and Miss Pee. And I think two years ago, if you remember, Miss Pee came out to, you know, put claims on Posey, saying, you know, allegedly he raped her. And just the other day she has done another interview with Nicholas Kiyoko and the gate. She said that she embarrassed Posey in public and now she has come out to apologize in public. But guys are asking questions. Did she lie about these rape allegations? And I mean, we're just here to ask, what's going on, guys? What do you guys think about this whole issue of rape allegations and then apologizing again? What do you guys think? So for me, I feel we do not have all the details of what happened, but she did apologize on the rape part. So my question would be, is this a relationship that went sour? Like was one person so into the relationship and when he or she felt like they cannot get this other person, they decided to revenge. But on the rape part of accusing someone that I am against, totally. For me, I feel like sexual assault is such a serious issue. You just don't wake up and say this and tomorrow you change your mind. I feel like legal action should be taken because you know you're ruining someone's reputation. This is someone who's built a career for years and just like that can go down the drain because of, I feel like there are games now because you wake up and say this, tomorrow you say this, you don't play such games. But you also remember sometime back, Diana B also came out to put the same allegations on Posey, she went live. I don't know how that story went back. That story, what happened actually is when Diana accused Willy Paul of rape, Willy Paul took legal action and the law ordered Diana to pull down the videos and she had also posted on Instagram and she pulled them down. So my question is if she was, I don't know whether she was saying the facts or not but why did she pull it down after the court ordered? If at all she was fighting for justice, why did she take it down? Yeah. That's crazy because honestly like Ndiniya is saying, I feel like sexual assault allegations, rape allegations, that's quite a big deal and you know by checking on the constitution, it could lead to life imprisonment if someone is found guilty of rape, you know? So imagine accusing someone of such a serious case. What do you guys think it now brings to, aside from now Willy Paul, generally, what are kind of the effects that you feel like it brings on someone as a person? They could be influential, they could be celebrities, they could be just normal, you know, people who are not really renowned. What are some of those challenges or other advantages it brings to the person? I feel first of all, so many people saw the allegations and there are people who believe just because, you know, Willy Paul has had, you know, issues online. So every time something negative is said about him, there are some people who believe without even facts. Yeah, so that's number one. Do you know there is someone who has not seen this apology until now? I know for sure. So they will then knowing Willy Paul sexually assaulted me? Also I didn't understand that kind of apology because when Kyoko asked her to say what really happened, she said she, you know, refrains to talk about it. So I really don't know. I just feel there's something we do not know. We do not know? Yeah, but the rape part, I feel like it was false. Okay. Before me, what I think is before you go out there saying such allegations, remember, this person has a family, this person has the people. So you're not only affecting one person, you're affecting several people. The people involved with this person. Unless you're sure maybe you've taken the case to court and you've sorted everything, now you can see such things. But just don't wake up one day and say this and then the next day you have a different story. I also feel like when such cases of mispeak come up, they, when now there's a real, real victim of rape, most of them don't get assistance. They're told maybe you're lying. So this whole situation, it just shows that when people lie about sexual assault, it affects the real victims. Very true for sure. They will not even get justice. So it's wrong on all angles. It is. And you know, Ms. Pio is trying to justify the moment as to where she went online and just said all these allegations. And she was saying her emotions were all over. You know, she was so mad at the time. Was she mad? Let me tell you, rape, you don't, such cases, you don't reason with emotions. You reason with logic. You know, you just can't wake up and say, my emotions made me do this. It's too risky to say such thing. But what was she mad about? Probably she or issues in the label or her own issues? Probably now issues in the label because you know, she, as she mentioned, she said, and I quote her words. So we have done things, things with some things we are not even proud of. We have history. So clearly there's probably something that was going on that we might not know about. It could be love gone sour, I don't know. Sidrui, Mimi. Yeah, some say that the two are in a relationship which none of them has admitted to being in a relationship. But when you analyze this whole situation, I think the two are close at some point then they disagreed. And then now what made, according to me, what made the love more complicated is that it was a boss and a worker and an employee. So when you mix business with pleasure, it does not end well. It becomes terrible because now you see that's why now emotions come in. When you're making decisions, it is now emotion. And like they say, sometimes for women, they fall in love easily. Okay, I also think men do sometimes. But for women, but do you just fall in love without actually just being told or being treated nicely or being hit on? What do you want to fall in love at just for easy? Maybe you can fall in love with someone just because of how they look or what they are. How they smell. But are they giving this? Are they reciprocating? I feel like for you to fall in love, you have to be triggered. Yeah. You know, you just can't fall in love like that. This person has to show you interest for you to fall in love with them. Yeah, because Kani, in this street, how are you guys falling in love? Maybe at will, because I feel like you don't just wake up and fall in love. Unless it's fun love. Unless it's fun love. Eh, the fun love. Yes. The butelas more about that. Maybe someone tattooed my name. So I think that is love. No, unless it's fun love. Oh, fun love. Okay, but these people are working together, so... No, but you know one is bigger than the other one. Yeah. So by the time she wanted to work with him, there's something she wanted to be associated with. Yeah. So she may have been a fan of his work before she got into that. Yeah. Then probably she got in and she's probably been treated nice and serious damage. We don't know if that's the truth, guys. Maybe they were in a relationship, maybe they were not. But according to me, what it happens when someone says such allegations and they are false. Mm-hmm. Of course they tarnish your name. And some of these things, you might never be able to recover. Because as Liz has mentioned, there's probably someone who has not seen that apology. And honestly, I feel like in her apology, she didn't say I was not raped. So my apology, guys, she said, oh, in case you see this video, just know I'm looking for you. Anyway, what do you guys think about the apology when you guys say it now? They accept terms of the apology from Puse. For me, I feel like the apology should be as loud as the disrespect. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's what I feel. But she did it publicly and that's why she said, actually, I embarrass too, in public I've come out. But does it mean anything? It doesn't. I feel, first of all, the apology to me was vague. Mm-hmm. And it was vague because when she first accused Willy Paul of rape, she did an interview with presenter Ali. She was giving details of what happened. Oh, he went to the house. Then he said he was too tired to take me back home. So now the apology was so vague, it had no details. So according to me, I don't know what exactly she was apologizing for. Was she apologizing for going to the public or was she apologizing of things she had done in Delhi? What exactly was she apologizing about? Mm-hmm. But now, when I actually thought Willy Paul was not going to respond, I was very surprised when he responded actually because he's been a victim of so many scandals and most times he may keep quiet. So when he typed a whole paragraph and he was talking about forgiveness, I was like, oh, forgiveness is good. But sometimes you cannot just casually accuse someone of rape and then casually apologize. So for me, I just feel like, you know, she said, he said rather that his doors are always open for her. Open for her. For me, there are some times you need to forgive someone and let them go. You do not forgive someone and then you take them back. What if they repeat the same, same, same mistake? So for me, I just feel like he will have forgiven yes, but kept his distance. What do you think, Denya? What do you think of that acceptance, of that accepting the apology? Well, for me... Would you have done it if you were actually... Personally? No, I will not. I will not have forgiven like that. I will not even have responded. Come to me personally as Denya and talk to me directly. And for you, Liz, what you've said about the way Pose responded, I feel like, you know, people are different. How I take things is not how you take things and how Pose takes things. So before he was like, okay, I've had enough of scandals now. I let go, I let go and let God. I really found that allegation quite big for just doing a random interview and me forgiving. I don't know, maybe like you said, people are different. Because for me, it's such an allegation and then you just apologize and now we are back. Okay, come, come, come through, come through. We are back to being friends. That can never happen because I believe a snake just sheds its skin. So it still remains to be a snake. What do you guys think? But maybe I mean, the Bible says it's good to forgive and forget. I don't know. I don't even do that. Maybe I would forgive because we have to move on. I would for sure address the public because people need to know what I'm saying because I have been accused and I'm a brand. I am famous, I'm known, I've probably lost jobs. I would address it in public but opening doors, I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure. I agree. You forgive but you remove access. Yeah. So your final thoughts on just allegations on these sexual assaults and rape. What do you guys have to say? Still the same thing. You don't wake up and say such allegations against someone and then you wake up and say, no, it was not like that. I apologize. For me, I feel like women who do that, like just stop doing that. It's not, you know, sometimes people believe women more than they do believe in men and that's something some women take advantage of. So please just don't, don't accuse someone of sexual assault. It's not right. All right. And my final words are, I don't know, if you're accusing someone of rape and sexual assault, it's something that could lead them to get life imprisonment. We can't just joke with, we can't just joke with prison. Like we are going to boarding school and after three months, you're coming back home. That's not something you joke about. So as a woman or even as a man, as you decide to accuse someone of rape, please just be sure of what you're saying. Don't just come up because of, don't just come up with a story, with just a random story because you feel hurt, your emotions have been hurt. What do you want to be a character? Development killer siku. So you don't really have to put up certain allegations on someone if you know it's not true. 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