 Call to order this is the 18th regular meeting of the 2010-2011 Common Council and as is customary Deputy City Clerk Linda Long will read the quote of the evening At the close of another year. We pause to wish you a warm and happy holiday season Thank You Linda roll call, please born here bow Bowers here dicker here. Hammond here Hannah here Vitamin here cat here Hiddleston excused Montemay or here in flesh here Riesler here Samson here when Vanderweel here Percy here one of them in here We have a quorum now if Alderman Samson can please lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands One nation under God Indivisible with liberty and justice for all Thank You Kevin looking for approval of the minutes of the former Common Council meeting Vice President Rindflash. Thank you, Your Honor. I move that we approve the previous minutes We have a motion a second to approve the previous minutes under discussion There is no discussion all in favor say aye opposed motion carries Resignations, I don't believe attorney McLean One they're dated December 17th to the mayor from Ed Wachowski, Jr. informing Mayor and the council of his resignation from the Mead Library Board of Trustees effective December 31, 2010 Vice President I move that we accept the resignation of Ed Wachowski and thank him for his service second, we have a motion in a second to Approve the Resignations to accept the resignation. I too would like to thank mr. Wachowski for his years of service to the city Agree or disagree with mr. Wachowski at some points. He definitely was dedicated to what he did, so we thank him We have a motion a second under discussion If there is none all in favor say aye opposed motion carries Mayor's appointments Everybody submit the following appointment for your consideration Attorney McLean, I believe Yeah, all the person on to mayor. Thank you, mr. Mayor I would like to refer to salary and grievance the appointment of the consideration of the appointment for city assessor We have a motion in a second to refer to salary and grievances under discussion There is none all in favor of sending the salary and grievance say aye opposed motion carries Hereby submit the following appointment for your consideration Herb Benkowski to be considered for appointment to the city county Jared services committee to fill the unexpired term of Greg Wegeman whose term expires for 25 2011 signed by the mayor that lies over All of my board Thank You mayor Ryan before the next meeting could we get some information on mr. Benkowski certainly we'll get over We'll get a resume on this. Thank you Okay, are there any other appointments there are none Okay Mayor's comments, I would just like to wish everybody Happy holidays Merry Christmas happy Hanukkah happy Kwanzaa and happy everything else that you may be affiliated with It's a very special time of the year It's a time where we should start thinking of others instead of thinking of ourselves I believe everybody in this room thinks of others. That's why we serve the community the way we do Obviously nobody's in this for the money. We do it because it's in our hearts So I wish the Common Council and all the citizens of Sheboygan Merry Christmas And Alderman Bulk would like to say a word. Thank you, mr. Mayor. You've set me up to be quite a grinch I think over the next couple of minutes, but Only to 50% of the tax pay I rise to to say in the interest of the taxpayer Just to remind people out there that there are nine open seats on the Common Council this April and we need to get 20 verified signatures if you would choose to run you need to get 20 verified signatures to the city clerk's office By January 4th at 5 p.m I found it interesting mr. Mayor that last night 60 minutes of all Shows to finally come to the table of awareness of unsustainable financial practices 60 minutes now recognizes what former chairman Hannah of the finance committee and what former chairman Gisha of the finance committee I've been talking about luckily for our city for the past three years 60 minutes has come to the conclusion that state and municipal budgets have unsustainable benefit packages in them and Governor Christie of New Jersey last night commented on several numbers that Would astound you that not just mima millions anymore but the billions but tritra trillions and the state of the municipal bond Market is such that if you recall back in October, maybe early November Warren Buffett has decided to divest 17% of his muni bond holdings Because in his quote and he's a very humble man, but his quote was people would tell you basically I'm the best investor of our generation and I have no idea how to value these muni bonds anymore And if anybody tells you they do know how they're either lying or they're just plain wrong So the greatest investor of our age has decided that municipal budgets are so volatile We have borrowed so much money and have such an inability to potentially pay it back that he is divesting a huge number a huge portion of his portfolio so what my my imploring to the to the taxpayers would be if you have any financial or strategic organizational leadership education Experience or relationships. We need you on this council. This council needs all the help It can get to manage the future budgets this year We kind of squeaked by with some bubble gum and some duct tape Next year. I'm not sure how much duct tape is going to get us by and so the folks that will be sitting in these chairs come April Need people that have that kind of experience But we also need other people if you have ideas for candidates recruit those candidates knock on their door and say I think you'd be a good alderman and I'm here to help you. I'll help you run your campaign I'll help you raise money. I'll help you drill holes in the ground and put your signs in people's front yard. I Believe that we get the government we deserve. That's a great Jefferson quote And here's what I hope will recruit some of those people that are interested in politics But maybe haven't been pushed over the edge to participate yet If you recall the ambulance vote a few months ago a month or so ago It went about 55 45 in favor of keeping the ambulance So I would suggest to you that's about how much force is behind The other philosophy and the candidates they're running as alderman. They are stacking the ballots Plenty of people that will vote to raise your taxes and increase benefits If you want somebody who's going to vote the other way We lost recently 55 to 45 if you want to overcome that you got to get involved And you've got to find the right candidates and you got to get behind them You got to work harder than you did on the ambulance because we lost the ambulance 55 to 45 so I urge all people to get get involved and participate, but I especially Urge those who would participate in a way of shrinking the the burden on the taxpayer I encourage them to run and support others who will run. Thank you, mr. Mayor Thank you alderman Bob I Would just like to say to anybody who is Taking out papers to be a candidate the official time. Yes is five o'clock on January 4th But it would be best if possibly to get them in by noon because we do verify all those addresses And if by chance you would be short the 20 minimum required addresses at five o'clock You would not have time to go out and get another signature So just put that in your hat and think about it as far as getting him in a little earlier to give us time to verify your signatures Thank you. Thank you Linda Vice-president Renflesh. Thank you. Mr. Mayor. I Echo the importance of people serving and going out I urge everyone to seriously consider To participate in city government So with with the statements that we've heard this week and two weeks ago as well I agree, you know, I urge everyone to to participate as much as possible my concern on the council floor is that we have a rule for no politicking and We require the public not to politic in the public forum, which we have coming up here as well And most of that presentation we've heard from Alderman bow had no politicking until the very end when we heard other side Other Other people we as winners and losers I think that crosses the line and I would ask that as we get closer into the election cycle I'll let the politics occur outside the council chamber and Speak to participate, but urge you not to necessarily take sides of this council chamber We expect the public not to I think it's at least we can do is expect ourselves not to as well Thank You vice-president red flesh Alderman bow. Thank you And I apologize to the vice-president his words are well taken so I'll rephrase my last statement to say if you would Vote in favor of the taxpayer and reducing the size of government then I especially urge you to participate in the election process and thank You Alderman book Okay, moving on Public forum Dulcey Johnson And could I have your address please Dulcey 1306 North 3rd Street, Sheboygan. Thank you We'll have five minutes Mayor Ryan deputy clerk long city attorney McLean members of the council and citizens Back in June when the mayor cast the deciding vote to allow the fire department to hire four more paramedics He promised to present a long-range reorganization plan for the department by December 31st 2010 Things got off to a flourish with the trip to Minnesota by mayor Ryan chief Herman and then city assessor David Lutsky Their trip included visits to two unlikely cities Eden prairie Which is a relatively new suburb of Minneapolis and is known as the yuppie suburb and maple grove another Minneapolis suburb Which is a major shopping destination There was an attempt to visit a Western, Wisconsin city on the return But that didn't work out because as I remember the mayor or the fire chief was at a funeral Sometime later. I heard chief Herman mentioned that he had visited other, Wisconsin cities But it seemed that none of them none of them offered any likely scenarios or at least any scenarios that the chief was willing to consider I Attended the public protection and safety committee meeting on December 15th hoping to learn about the long range Reorganization plan as listed on the amended agenda. I Had emailed alderman kiddison on Monday asking if she was going to hold the mayor accountable for his promise to formulate a long range Reorganization plan for the department What I learned at the meeting was There is no plan As chairman of the public protection and safety committee alderman kiddison should have known indeed must have known that there was no plan So why did she amend the agenda to include and I quote? Discussion and possible action on the long-range plan for reorganization of the Sheboygan fire department politics as usual Chief Herman said he is reorganizing all the time That the department no longer has a fire inspector and that they have a new $500,000 pumper truck which can be operated with three firemen rather than using two vehicles which would need four firemen That doesn't quite cut it. However, as a long-range reorganization plan There were references at the public protection and safety committee meeting as To the role of the strategic physical planning committee if that committee is the key to the reorganization Why wasn't it utilized months ago? It's not as if the strategic physical planning committee suddenly became a reality In fact, it has been in existence and since at least 2003 I found doing during my research that ro 88 dash 10 dash 11 on June 7th Council a dent agenda which dealt with lifting the hiring freeze and the hiring of four more paramedics was referred to public protection and safety and The strategic fiscal planning committee Why didn't Alderman kiddison as chairman of the public protection and safety committee which oversees the fire department? Initiate some discussion of the mayor's promise with the strategic fiscal planning committee and Please do not suggest that following up on what was promised would be micromanaging At the meeting on the 15th chief Herman said and I quote everyone thinks Reorganization means saving money Inferring that his idea of a reorganization of the fire department might not save money But when Mayor Ryan spoke of reorganizing the department He stated that his goal was to cut the fire department budget from seven million to four million with a reorganization Obviously, they are not on the same page There were also references at the meeting about the ambulance referendum vis-a-vis a long-range plan The referendum had not yet surfaced when the mayor made his promise and it is now six weeks past the election So I find the referendum just another excuse The mayor and chief Herman should have created a reorganization plan with and without the ambulance The current status of what was agreed to in June is that chief Herman got his four new hires The fire union got a promise of no layoffs in 2011 and two more days of vacation in exchange for a mere $90,000 in concessions Mayor Ryan has not delivered on his promise and the taxpayers will continue to pay the bill with new no reorganization plan on the table. I Am disappointed in the lack of leadership by the principles involved The citizens your constituents Expect and deserve Responsible and responsive leadership and this speaks loudly to the need for a city administrator Sooner rather than later Thank you Thank you once again Dulce I would just like to point out that in June when I said that we would have a long-range plan for the fire department This was before The referendum the council voted to pass a referendum on the ambulance. It was also before the council voted 12-4 and 2 against Guaranteeing 57 Full-time firefighter paramedic positions in the fire department That was done after June for the year 2011 by contract we have X amount of firefighters on the table of organization Which was voted for by the common council the strategic fiscal planning committee is meeting weekly Weekly to come up with a long term plan which will be instituted with the 2012 budget which will include the fire department and every other department of this city So as a mayor I could throw out in a plan Right now for 2012 it would be hard to institute in 2011 because by vote of the council We have guaranteed X amount of firefighters in 2011 so for me to throw out a Long-range plan for the fire department to enact today When we can enact it does not make a heck of a lot of sense when we have the Strategic fiscal planning committee coming up with a long term strategic plan for the city Which will include the fire department and every other department and which will be part of our? 2012 negotiations in the summer of 2011 to steer the city forward So that's where we're at today Did I come up with a long-range plan? No, I did not but there are reasons and this will be a cooperative effort between myself Between the strategic fiscal planning committee and any other alderman That have the time to attend those meetings By our department heads and by the citizens of the city. Thank you Okay Moving on we have two public hearings this evening We have a public hearing regarding just kids dental SC project Midwestern disaster area revenue bonds Series 2010 is there anybody that would like to be heard regarding this hearing? second time is there anybody that would like to be heard and the third and Last time is there anybody that would like to be heard? Vice president Rindflash. Thank you. Mr. Mayor. I move that the hearing be closed second We have a motion and a second to close the hearing under discussion There is none all in favor say aye Opposed that hearing is closed number two. We have a public hearing regarding the industrial Development revenue bond financing to benefit Torgon all incorporated project Is there anybody that would like to be heard regarding the IRBs for Torgon all Second time is there anybody that wishes to be heard? And for the third time does anybody wish to be heard Vice president Rindflash. Thank you. Mr. Mayor. I move that the hearing be closed We have a motion and a second to close the hearings under discussion There is none all in favor say aye opposed Hearing is closed consent agenda 18 1 through 18 29 vice president Rindflash Thank you, Mr. Mayor I move that all report of officers be accepted and placed on file our port of committees be accepted and adopted and all Resolutions be put upon the passage second We have a motion and a second under discussion on the consent agenda Aldermen Hannah Thank You mr. Mayor just a clarification on 1816. I know there was concern about the far worse market last year With the popcorn wagon, I'm assuming that that all went smoothly and that there was no problem I did not hear any issues with the popcorn wagon this summer A little bit nerve is acknowledging that there were no problems nothing but good popcorn for the wagon this year I know that that was an issue last year Okay, is there any other discussion regarding the consent agenda If there is none roll call, please Warren I Bulk Bowers I Decker I Hammond I Hannah I Heidemann I Montemay or I Rindflash I Riesler I Samson I Vander wheel I Percy I Longamon Motion carries communications and petitions 1830 through 1833 to be referred Reports of officers to 1834 through 1837 to be referred All of my born Thank You, Mayor Ryan 1837 I'd like that also referred to the finance committee since I've been on the council any purchases of Police vehicles has come before the finance committee And less chief Domogolski has an absolute deadline that this has to be passed. I'd like that. I'd like that the wood of finance Chief okay with that Okay, it will also be referred to finance if everybody can make that note. Thank you. Thank you alderman born. So 18 37 18 okay, that's to be referred 1834 through 1837 1838 lies over Resolutions introduced 3 1839 by Alderperson Kittleson officially recognizing the gatewood neighborhood association Alderperson Montemay or thank you, Mr Mayor, I move the resolution be put upon its passage second We have a motion and a second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion If there is none all in favor say aye opposed motion carries 1840 by Alderpersons Hammond bulk borne Rindflash and Riesler Authorizing the appropriate city officials to enter into contract to equip City Hall with wireless connectivity Alderman Hammond I move that the resolution be put upon its passage second We have a motion in a second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion Alderman Hammond just a real quick question has been asked by a couple people as director of Mordio here What's the time Ryan time frame? Okay. Thank you less than 30 days on the time frame People didn't hear that. Thank you Alderman Hammond. Is there any further discussion? There is no roll call, please Oh Bowers, no, yeah, sir. Hi, Hammond. Hi, Hannah. Hi Item in hi. Yeah. Hi Montemay or I Rindflash, I Beasler, hi Samson. Hi Vanderweel, hi Versey, hi Langerman. Hi corn. Hi Motion carries 1841 by Alderpersons Hannah Kittleson Riesler and Versey lifting the hiring freeze in order to hire two Full-time telecommunicators in the police department Alderman Hannah Thank You, mr. Mayor. I moved the resolution be put upon its passage second We have a motion in a second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion Alderman Samson, thank you, mr. Mayor. I would just just a quick question. Is this to replace? To people are we adding people? We're converting some people are in the part-time position To full-time chief. Did you want to go over the specifics with them? It's to move less part-time people and Create the full-time people so it's if everything works out. We won't be hiring anybody No, it's we'll be converting employees that already work for the city It's really the make scheduling Workout better for us Allow us to do more training and things like that. It should actually save us money That's all we're doing is shifting some of the Overtime funds Out of overtime and then over to cover and the way everything will work out the benefits are gonna work out better for us This is all within your budget. Yes. Thank you chief Thank you Alderman Samson. Is there any further discussion? There is no roll call, please Bowers. Hi Decker. Hi, Hammond. Hi Heidemann. Hi, Kev. Hi, Langmuir. Hi, Rinfleischer. Hi, Weasler. Hi, Samson. Hi, Vanderveel. Hi, Versi. Hi, Wangeman. Hi, Born. Hi, Falk. Hi Motion carries 1842 by Alderpersons Hannah Kittleson, Raceler and Versi lifting the hiring freeze in order to hire three police officers in the police department Alderman Hannah. Thank you, Mr. Mayor I move that the resolution be put upon its passage second. We have a motion to second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion if I may Speak on this these Officers are hired under a CAHPS grant, which is a federal grant We'll pay full-time salary and benefits for these three new officers for a period of three years So this is a good thing. We're adding three police officers to the streets, and we're doing that courtesy of Washington, D.C. Is there any discussion? There is no roll call, please. Decker. Hi, Hammond. Hi, Hannah. Hi, Heidemann. Hi, Kev. Hi, Langmuir. Hi, Rinfleshe. Hi, Reisler. Hi, Samson. Hi, Vanderheel. Hi, Versi. Hi, Wangeman. Hi, Born. Hi, Falk. Hi, Bowers. Hi, Motion carries 1843 and 1844 lie over 1845 through 49 to be referred Vice President Rinfleshe. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. On 1843 That's involving the tax incremental district It's being lied over. Is there a time frame that needs to be completed by the end of the year? We need to spend on that instead I don't believe so chat on tid 14. There's no there's no deadline. Thank you Thank you, Vice President Rinfleshe. So 1843 on 44 do lie over 1845 through 49 to be referred Reports of committee 7 1850 by law and licensing recommending denying beverage operators license number 8 8 9 8 Based upon her failure to include all relevant convictions on her license On her license application and her record of violations related to the licensed activity Vice President Rinfleshe. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I move that the report of committee be accepted and adopted We have a motion and a second to accept and adopt under discussion is Mary Jane Mendez here She's not here your honor, please continue. Thank you It was a recommendation from the law license committee to deny based on The record of violations. It was a recent record of violations as well We found those to be an established pattern of behavior that was questionable Specifically for disorderly conducts. It was also stated by the applicant that she actually did not need the license because she was Looking for work in a factory right now. I had no place of employment right now So I asked that we support the report of committee and deny the license Thank you vice president Rinfleshe any further discussion. There is no real call, please Motion carries 1851 by law and licensing recommending denying beverage operators license number 8169 based upon his failure to include all relevant convictions on his license Application and his record of violations related to the licensed activity vice president Rinfleshe Thank you, your honor. I asked that the report of committee be accepted and adopted second. We have a motion and a second Is Andrew Marks here He's your honor. Mr. Marks if you'd like to step up front, please Vice president Rinfleshe, please continue. The recommendation of the committee was to deny based on the recent history the recent history Cooling a damage to property in 2009 underage alcohol in 2010 And obstructing which is pending currently Mr. Marks did reveal the underage alcohol but did not reveal the damage to property in 2009 and the obstruction which is pending There are court fines need to be paid prior to any license can be issued if it is granted by this committee But that is no need for a motion for that. It would have to be paid at the city clerk's office He did cooperate with the committee by appearing on the first time the concern was however that this would be a relatively recent pattern of What we find to be unacceptable behavior Recommend the council to me the committee did discuss and said stated that we prefer to see at least one year History without it be having any problems before considering granting up granting a license But this time our recommendation is to deny Thank you vice president Rinfleshe. Mr. Marks. Would you like to speak on the issue? Yes? I made a mistake I didn't put those on there. I should have when I applied for the license The damage to property was very costly and I do regret it Same as the obstruction and underage. I just paid those today actually both of those fines. I Have the receipt for that. I guess I Barton for a living and I I Guess I made a very bad judgment call and that night when I got both those fines recently and as well as the Property damage. I don't want to I guess I want to get my license and I'm seeing actually psychiatrists now if that helps because This is depression and stuff like that. So not drinking a whole lot. Actually, I'm 21 now I don't go out at all because I'm on antidepressant. So Contradict themselves. So I'm paying monthly for insurance and I you know, I just The behavior will the pattern has will stop And I just I'd want to work and Means a lot to me so it's I think that's all I have to say Thank you, mr. Marks. If you can stay up there, please Alderman born Thank You mayor sir. Were you going to be working with your license if you get it blue light bar? Where's that located 1029 North A Street? Thank you These are incidents you had was this one evening that both the both these incidents happened it was And why did you not report them to the committee? It was a mistake. I guess a lack of judgment Regret not Why is president Rinflesh? Thank you, mr. Mayor To clarify. Yes, the underage alcohol in the obstructing was the same evening to separate events took place One of which was Reported the other one was not I was stated in the committee that the energy alcohol was reported because it was clear that it had something to do with the licensing Feature and the applicant was unclear of the other items damaged property obstructing would have any pertinence to that at all However, the application does state when you sign it that you're aware that you're listing any and all Convictions tickets or what are not traffic tickets, but anything that's Would be out there as well So in my mind it was close Personally my vote did go as I said to the applicant in that meeting to deny Just based on the very recent history as I stated But it was a toss-up really for me But with that direction for the council's sake because the reason is for 2009 and then the incident to 2010 Thank You vice president Rinflesh Alderman born Thank You ma'am Sir are you working at this establishment currently without the license? Yes, because the owner is downstairs Okay, so you can work but you my understanding is you can work without the license But you cannot be there alone and you cannot close the establishment. Is that right correct? Is it going to be a hardship in the employment if you don't have the license? Would you be able to work with the owner and under your current situation until you could prove yourself? I would I think I would like to find more bartending jobs, but it's all kind of hinging on this Are you doing anything else currently besides bartending? No? Thank you Thank You alderman born one of these was an underage drinking are you 21 years of age now? I am Thank you. Is there any further questions? There are none roll call, please and I vote will deny the license a no vote will Not deny it Thank you. Mr. Markson. Please sit down. All right Hi to men. Hi Yeah, hi Montmior, no Rinflesh, hi Riesler hi Samson. Hi Vander wheel. Hi Bursey. Hi Longa men. Hi Orin. Hi Bulk. Hi Bowers. Hi Decker. Hi Hammond. No 13 eyes to know motion carries Reports of committees eight 1852 by finance recommending passing the final resolution regarding Industrial Development Revenue Bond financing to benefit Torgan all incorporated project alderman Hammond Thank You mr. Mayor I move that the report of committee be accepted and adopted and the resolution be put upon its passage We have a motion and a second to accept and adopt and put the resolution upon its passage under discussion There is no discussion. We'll call please Titan man. Hi Yeah Montmior. Hi Rinflesh. Hi Riesler. Hi Samson. Hi Vander wheel. Hi Bursey. Hi Longa men. Hi Orin. Hi Bulk. Hi Bowers. Hi Decker. Hi Hammond. Hi Hannah. Hi 15 eyes Motion carries 1853 by finance recommending authorizing a transfer of appropriations in the 2010 budget Establishing estimated revenue and appropriation for the 2010 police department alcohol enforcement speed enforcement and DT ACTS enforcement grants Alderman Hammond. Thank You mr. Mayor move that the report of committee be accepted and adopted and the resolution put upon its passage We have a motion and a second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion There is no discussion. We'll call please Yeah, I Montmior. Hi Rinflesh. Hi Riesler. Hi Samson. Hi Vander wheel. Hi Bursey. Hi Longa men. Hi Orin. Hi Bulk. Hi Bowers. Hi Decker. Hi Hammond. Hi Hannah. Hi Heidemann. Hi 15 eyes Motion carries ordinances introduced 10 1854 lies over 1855 to be referred Matters laid over 11 sp3-1 resolution number 168 1011 by Alderman Hammond authorizing the appropriate city officials to execute a project agreement between the u.s. EPA the wisconsin dnr Sheboygan county and the city of Sheboygan Alderman Hammond. Thank You mr. Mayor I move that the resolution be put upon its passage We have a motion and a second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion If I may say a word on this one, this is authorizing the City's portion of the money to fund the project plan for the continued dredging of the river after the Superfund portion is done With the Superfund portion we now have up to 12 million dollars that they're counting the Superfund portion towards local match This is not counting some potential Participation we may have from the private sector in this project to the end result will be that we are going to have a clean river River that is capable of sustaining fish habitat and the side benefit is that we will have a navigable river that we can again Take boats up so this is a good thing If there is No discussion roll call, please Hi Motion carries other matters authorized by law attorney McLean Thank you, your honor 1856 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting various license applications for the period ending June 30 2011 and June 30 That will be referred to law and licensing 1857 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting as matter of record of communication from Eastern shores library system Informing Maeve Quinn president of the public library board that the library is not in compliance with the library system membership requirements for Municipal public libraries for the state statutes Like it at finance we'll refer this to finance 1858 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting communication from Richard Hartman regarding the possible cost for a name change and repainting of the city's We will have this referred to the transit authority Before we adjourn if I may have one word after this evening's meeting the common council and the department heads of the city and Their significant others are invited to go to city streets To attend a city holiday get-together This is a get-together a social event this is not a Council meeting or an extension of a council meeting and no city business will be discussed I just thought I should reveal that the Council will all be getting together this evening. So that will be a city street immediately following the council meeting. Thank you Motion to adjourn the second under discussion There's not all in favor see I Opposed motion carries. Thank you