 I'm Debbie Daschinger, welcome to Dear to Dream, and I heard just the most amazing news last night. I knew that I had been nominated for two People's Choice podcast awards, and last night I found out that I am indeed a finalist. I, my show, Dear to Dream, is a finalist in the entertainment category, which is interesting. And I accept it. I am so thrilled, and I'm not gonna know till the end of this month how it turns out. I'm super willing to receive this. I've been doing this show over 12 years. I love what I do. I love these conversations. And I'm enthralled that you all join us and that you're so great about posting comments and letting us know how you're receiving the shows or what they're creating for you or causing you to think about or shifting in your life. That's exactly why the show is here. So you can live really bold and free and create the life that you dream of. That's what it's all about. And today is no different. I would ask you too to subscribe to the show. It is here for you. So if you'd like this to come into your inbox, there's a new show generally once a week, occasionally twice a week. And if you subscribe, please leave a review so that people who are looking for this level of number one transformation conversation can find the program as well based on your review. I wanna thank Dr. Dane here and Access Consciousness for sponsoring the show. You can find out more about the energy healing work they do worldwide at Dr. Dane here. That's H-E-E-R.com as well as accessconsciousness.com. And my question to you is, is your money smiling? You might wanna open your wallet and check because my guest today is Ken Honda and he is the author of Happy Money, the Japanese art of making peace with your money. Money and happiness expert Ken Honda is a best-selling self-development author in Japan with book sales surpassing 7 million copies since 2001. Ken studied law in Tokyo and entered the Japanese workforce as a business consultant and investor. Ken's financial expertise comes from owning and managing several businesses including an accounting company, a management consulting firm and a venture capital corporation. His writings bridge the topics of finance and self-help focusing on creating and generating personal wealth and happiness through deeper self honesty. He's got ongoing support available to those of you listening or reading his book. He's got mentoring programs, business seminars, therapeutic workshops and correspondent courses. He's actually the first person from Japan to be voted into the Transformational Leadership Council and those of us living in Los Angeles are very much connected with this inner circle know about TLC. It is a great honor because these are personal and professional development leaders. He is fluent in Japanese and English, lived in Boston, Massachusetts for two years and currently resides in Tokyo, Japan. If you'd like to learn more, go to kenhonda.com. Ken, welcome to Dear to Dream. It's an honor, it's a pleasure to have you here today. Thank you Debbie, this is such a great honor and what a great way to start my morning. Yes, I'm late in the afternoon here, you're early in the morning, so I'm very grateful that you took the time to join us today. Thank you. Your book, which I'm reading beautiful book, Happy Money, I think really where I wanna start is the fact, reading in your bio alone, happiness and peace. That's very interesting to put those particular two words together. So why happiness and peace? What is it that you know from the work you do that makes both those words so relevant and so important to put together? You know, as a son of a very successful accountant, I grew up with money. At the same time, I've witnessed so many people suffer from money, even though they had a lot. So I realized that two kinds of people, one is very happy people with money and very happy people without money. And I wonder, can I have both, you know? And I realized that in order to have both, you have to know about certain things. For example, in order to be happy and wealthy at the same time, you have to follow your heart. You have to do what you love. But most of us get stuck in the job that we don't even like. And we can't really get out of this low pain. Underappreciating, underappreciated environment. So there's so many things we have to do, but happy money is a thing that I concluded as a way to shortcut to happiness and money. Because there are two kinds of money in the world, happy money and unhappy money. Happy money makes you smile when you receive it and gives you joy when you spend it. Where unhappy money is everywhere. We receive money with frustration. Am I getting paid this little? And also we get frustrated when we spend it. You know, we don't wanna spend money because we feel like part of us, but our body gets ripped off. So we live in this frustration around money. So I think we have a choice. Do we want to live in the flow of happy money or live in the flow of unhappy money? And that will be a totally different life. I would imagine that most people pay their weekly bills with unhappy money. Yes. That there is looking at the pile in front of oneself and thinking, ah, I owe this, I owe this. And I did all this work and look what's left. Yes. How can people supersede that to have a shift around even paying bills? For example, you know, if you have to pay bills, you must have received some kind of service before. That could be electricity, water, or if you went to a restaurant with your friends, you must have some kind of fun at the restaurant. So if you can remember all the things you spend your money on and just start appreciating all that was so much fun with my best buddies. And I went to a short trip or this is the airfare and the gas and try to remember all the fun things and great things that you can appreciate for. So then, you know, if you're like, ooh, I have to pay the bills. You know, you can just say, thank you so much. You know, I got so much out of this whole thing. And then happily you can pay for that. Or I don't want to pay for this. I don't want to pay for this. But you have to pay for it anyway. So if you want to do it as a slave, you know, like I don't want to do that. Or are you willing to give up your money for your happiness? So it's your choice. Yes. When you first made this discovery, oh, there's energy to money. Money, depending on where it's coming from within oneself has the sense of happiness. Other money has this heaviness, this unhappiness. But that creates something depending on where it comes from within us happy or unhappier. So when you're making this discovery, did you start to use this in your own life? And did you find a pocket in your life where it really previously wasn't working was actually unhappy money? And if so, what did you do to turn that around in your own life to create more happy money? Yes. Thank you. Thank you for asking. You know, let me share with you a short story. I was approached by a woman at the party and she said she wanted to take a look at my wallet. And I said, it's okay. And she took all the bills out from my wallet and started checking something. So I got so curious and I observed what she was doing. And she said, this is good, this is good. This is great. And she returned my wallet back to me and she said, can all your money is good? And I asked her, what is good about my money? She said, can all of your money is smiling? That means you must have done some great work to receive money. That means you help people become happy. That's happy money. And she said, on the other hand, if you're taking advantage of other people or just doing what you don't like and receive money, your money is crying in a wallet or getting upset or angry. And I really got it. It's interesting. I don't see if my money is smiling or not, but I can imagine some of my friends' money is smiling. Some of my other friends must be angry because he's kind of like sketchy guy. So I realized that there are two kinds of money. So after that, I try to do the things that money would smile and I'd smile too. So I've done businesses and everything I do has a money return policy. So whatever I do, for example, last week and I did a lecture for 2000 people and some people get cold or their kids get cold. So my staff follow up and we do the refund for the people who didn't show up. So that's happy money. And of course, that shocks people. Like really, when I miss a concert, I don't get a refund. But since they didn't show up, I don't feel right that I receive money from them. So my business is done with that kind of code. So all the money I receive is happy money. And when I spend it, I make sure that the money I spend will also make somebody happy along the way. And I hope that the money I spend will bring back more friends and come back to me. So that's when I say, Arigato in, Arigato out. When money comes in, I say, Arigato, thank you for coming in. And when money leaves my life, also I say, thank you, see you soon. Come back with your friends. So that's the attitude in a happy money. That's amazing. That is such a unique practice. I don't know anybody outside of you who does that, who has a workshop and people have paid in advance, they've committed their coming, you have appropriated a seat and maybe materials for them for the weekend. And they don't show and you say, this is okay, here's your money back. How many of those people actually that you pay back who don't show end up coming back to your workshop? I don't keep records, but I get showers of compliments, thank you notes. And they, of course, they talk about me to their friends and they, we're not doing so much because if they didn't show up, we didn't get the money anyway. So there's no minus for us. It's just they didn't show up. That means we take it as they didn't sign up. But we have so many people in our seminar, we're financially abundant, financially independent. So I don't need money financially from the people that we should not accept money that we don't deserve. I think there's something very important at what you're saying. And I think that there are abundant thoughts and lack thoughts. And when you know you're gonna be okay and you, I love this Arigato in when you have that sense of the flow, there's a lot of abundance there. When you have another sense of, oh, they don't show, I need to take their money. I need to pay myself. There's a lack thought going on there. And it seems to me that that also creates, invites in, receives or disallows money. Yes, yes, I agree with you. So, I've been sort of this way even before I achieved financial independence in my 20s. You know, I always love giving, sharing what I have, what I know. So the reason why I'm doing this is to see people smile. You know, I've sold almost eight million copies and just calculate how much I made. So I was already financially well off before I even started, you know. So I'm okay without charging people. So sometimes once in a while, I do events that everything is so free. So financially challenged people can come. And that's my, I and also my staff members have so much fun and joy when we share a free event. Because those are the people that I want my knowledge to be used. So you're like the Oprah Winfrey, right? You get a workshop and you get a workshop and you get a workshop. Yes, I'm enjoying so much. But I was a happy camper in a small island called Japan in the size of California. You know, I was busy raising child and writing books and doing seminars. But my daughter turned 21 a few months ago. So I'm like a laid off daddy, you know. So. Empty nesters they say. I know, I know. So my wife, I'm decided that we're gonna do something more fun and more unique. And we came up with the idea that I'd go more work outside of Japan. So that's why I'm doing this. And this is so much fun. I don't feel like the whole thing, book writing, promotion is work. You know, this is my new adventure. Does that mean that you're going to be bringing these particular workshops to the United States? Yes, and I can do that online too. And my books are being published in China, Europe, India, and all over the world in 45 countries. So as you interviewed Dr. John DiMattini, who's my mentor and a great friend, I want to sort of travel like him. I don't know if 29 years or 39 years, but at least for a year or two, I just want to do what he does. It sounds like fun. He really inspires me. Yes, absolutely agreed. I think it suits his mission, right? To reach that many people to teach the world. So he, the yacht called the world, which he owns and travels the world teaching. And this is the very thing he does. He's very aligned with his views and his interests. It's inspiring. He's my hero, yes. And he's so fun. And a lot of Japanese people love him. He's coming actually to Japan in a couple of weeks. We're very excited. Well, then now I need to say, because he already told me to say hello to you and bringing him in. So I'm going to ask that you say hello to Dr. DiMattini when he's with me next time. Yes, yes, we'll have fun, yes. Have the loop there. Can you talk about, I found something very, very important in your book. I saw, I had an insight in your book. So I'm hoping we can delve just a wee bit into money personality types. And you talk about seven of them distinctively, plus there's combo platters. So there's a lot more. Yeah. So folks, if you want to read the money personalities, you can get his book, Happy Money. Will you just share one or a couple of them so we have a sense, maybe people can identify who they are and how they're operating right now. I think anybody can identify some of the money types. Zaya was doing a counting job. I realized that some people spend so much money and some people don't spend money. And I found out what they call, what they call, Spender. They love spending, they love shopping. And they're those who love saving. And the funny thing is they get married. I do money counseling a lot, not as much anymore, but I used to do a lot. So somehow the Spender gets married to a saver, which is so interesting. Or Spender marries to a compulsive moneymaker, the entrepreneurs who make a lot of money. Somehow they end up getting married with a partner who loves spending. So it's interesting because Spender loves spending, go to like expensive resorts or buy expensive brand. And the moneymaker or saver, they're interested in making money or saving money. They're not interested in saving spending. So that's why they fight. So before getting married, they are attracted to one another because of Spender thinks, oh, I can spend more. And the moneymaker type says, wow, she's gorgeous or he's gorgeous because he knows how to have fun or she knows how to have fun. So we are so many different money types or the combination of money types. And I'm sure it can come up with a few friends' names or faces. What I really loved is the idea. You said that a compulsive Spender generally comes from an upbringing of compulsive savers. And I was, ouch, when you describe it, I wouldn't say I have to have the top brands in the most luxurious resort, although I love these things. Love. So there's also a saver in me, but I would say to identify without a doubt, I am a Spender. I read that in your book. It was such an aha moment because I really came from a mom who's cut out coupons. Yes. Shopped at a particular store always to save a buck. And I still have a reaction to that when somebody is so deeply into it. Like, I know. It's a big turn off to me. Yes. You want to just slap in the face and spend more money and enjoy life, right? Have fun, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and I think I'm sure they want to do the same to you, save more money, be stable. You're a future. There's a war among us all because savers think that the Spender destroyed the environment and the world. There's humorism. Yes, yes. Yes, and what's interesting is if you have siblings more than two, even if you're brought up in the same household, your money type could be completely different. Your sister could be a Spender or a saver, and you hate each other because you have a money-different type. Wow. That's true. My brother is different than I am without a doubt. Wow. And some people are very good at making money, and some are better at spending money. So that's when they fight when their wealthy parents die because a Spender needs their parents' money and a compulsive moneymaker. They want more money so they can make more money. So there is always fight. So I've done a lot of family therapy healing the trauma. And what's interesting is that these dramas keep happening a few generations. So the reason why you're so scared and you cannot get out of this corporate environment could be a money fear that your grandparents or grand-grandparents had during the Depression time. You don't even know the names of your grandparents or grand-grandparents, but that's still the scare in them that they have to hold on to the money. They have to hold on to the stable jobs or pass down to the generation through your grandparents, through your parents, and through to you. So I realized through counseling for your career, I realized that we are given so much fear, frustration, desperation around money, guilt and shame, all packets from our ancestors, which is amazing. Are you OK? This must be so much truth. Yes, because of a generational block. Some people think. Well, I was thinking while you were saying that, I was having a response because I'm Jewish and it's very interesting. You know, I've seen documentaries that went very back to the inception of the Jewish people. And what was fascinating to me was the plight or the ongoing pattern that gets repeated over and over and over again, where the Jewish people were invited to come live in a country. And they would go and settle and populate and start to thrive and do well. And for whatever reason, politically or otherwise, they didn't suddenly like that they were doing well. And they would say terrible things about the Jewish people and they're the devil and they're this and that. And we have to get rid of them or erase them from the country. And seeing what was about to ensue, the Jewish people would grab whatever they could, have to leave much of their money behind and race. God knows how they did this without planes, but somehow through ships and other means to another country. Where again, they were told you're safe and they settle down and they start to relax a little and start to proliferate. When again, there was an uprising and people would turn on them. I mean, this has been going on for thousands of years. So when I'm hearing you say this, I find it fascinating. And I understand the connection with lineage, but this is so powerful when it comes to money because if you know, no matter if I build up my little empire, it's going to be taken from me because I'm going to have to flee. I won't lose it deep, right? Yeah, so it's so deep inside that whatever I do will be taken away, so I might as well spend it and enjoy it. That could be buried underneath. Wow. Yeah, so I do a lot of family therapy going back, at least three generations because it's so interesting. You don't get it if you just focus on how much you make, how much you save or how much you invest. It's way, way, way deeper than what you see on your bank account or spreadsheet because it's a despair that your parents or grandparents that you don't even know the faces and names. The psychic, you know, psychologically it's buried in you. So unless you heal the pain and wounds that they carried and your parents carried and you carry, you cannot really be free from money. That's what I teach to the, you know, the happy money is just a scratching the surface and it goes down deeper and deeper and deeper. And that way you can free yourself and I think you can free all your parents, grandparents and grandparents and then you feel that you're backed up, you're supported, but all those great ancestors support you. Psychologically, that's what I believe. This freedom from money, this is a powerful thing to say. So when you say freedom, is there a level of detachment? In there with money, what does that look like, freedom from money? To me, it's like air, you know, money is like water and as my mentor and friend, Lin Tuest said, money is water and it flows, right? And when it flows, it's beautiful, but for a lot of people, especially people who have issues with money, money is icy, cold. It's a cube, you know? When you hold it, it's so cold, it's freezing, it could damage their fingers if you keep holding the ice. And if the money is water and if it flows right, it's beautiful, but if there's little water, it's drought. If it's too much water, it's flood. I've seen a lot of my family friends who are washed out by the flood of money because they are very wealthy. And if you don't have money, it's a drought situation. And for financially, happily, free people, money evaporates, so it's almost like in the air. When you spend it, when you make money, you don't care. Like I don't care how much I make or how much I spend because I'm the flow of very, very happy money. I have so much money in the bank and I can spend so much, I can give so much, but I don't really care how much I make or how much I spend a month because it flows like it's like air. You don't have to be conscious about what's going on. If the money is water, you really have to see how much water coming, how much water come out. But if it's air, you can breathe as much as you want. You can breathe that as much as you want. You can relax and you don't have to complain you're the person right next to you. Don't breathe more air from me. So it can be more relaxed about money. So ideally, I hope everybody breathes air. So if people can deal with money like that, I think we'll be free of war, frustration, fights. That's why I wrote my book, Happy Money. Beautiful. 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And for those of you just tuning in, this is Debbie Daschinger on Dare to Dream and I'm speaking with Ken Honda, author of the bestselling book, Happy Money, the Japanese art of making peace with your money. Where do you can recommend that people start? So they're listening to this conversation and ting, ting, ting, little things are dinging inside of them and they're having some recognition. So if somebody says, I would, besides getting your book, which I highly recommend, it's a great read, what can they do right now to start to take a look at or shift what's going on? So the first step would be to observe what's going on in your life emotionally around money. Do you feel frustration? Do you feel shame, guilt when you receive money, which most of us do? Just check out why guilt, why shame, why embarrassment around money. So when you just take a look at what's going on, you feel shameful because you're not making enough money to make your family happy. But that's not really your fault. You just happen to fall into the situation and you can get out of the hole. But unless you deal with this shame and guilt, you just pass it on to your kids. Instead of saying, hi, I'm so sorry as your father. I cannot make, I don't have enough money to support you. So could you, would you be okay without going to a piano lessons or something? Your kids would understand, but instead you're frustrated and you're yelling at your kids. Like you don't just keep going to classes. So I'm not paying. So it's almost like you're making kids fall. So instead of just throwing blame, shame and guilt at some other people, you have to own it. When you feel embarrassment, shame, guilt or rejoice, you have to own it. And then just see how it goes and talk about money and emotions with your partners, families and friends. The biggest joy I have in my life is all the family of four or five, they all hug each other and cry about money because we all share the guilt and shame and happiness around money. So that would be the first thing to observe what's going on. And the second, if you could, start appreciating money. When money comes in, when you receive a check, say, thank you, Arigato, or Danke, or whatever the language, Salom or whatever the language you have. And then when you spend money, also try Arigato out. I thank the money for staying with me even though it was a short visit. I really enjoyed having you. And so that way you start transforming your relationship with money. And once you're not scared of money, you don't feel guilty about money, somehow more money comes into you. But you appreciate, appreciates. So if you let the flow of money in a more happy, gentle way, you get out of this relationship of a love and hate relationship because as much as we hate money, we love money. So it's almost like money come in and at the same time don't come. So like money would be confused if it's a person. Like, do I want to be, do you want me to be with you or not? But we had that. All of us are so confused about money. So if you just solve the mystery of what was happening when you were a child, I'm sure your parents didn't deal with money right and they didn't probably teach you right. And nobody really, it's about sex. Nobody really taught you about the most important thing because everybody is so embarrassed and shameful. For example, in North America, I found out that people don't talk about money, how much money you make or how much money you have. It's almost like a taboo, right? We're asking. 100%, yes. Yeah, yeah. We are more casual about money. We ask our friends like, how much you make or really? I'm jealous. So we're more open about that. But sex, forget it. These people are freaked out about sexual issues. So it's interesting culturally, but wherever I go, people get really frozen up when they talk about money. So they feel tense or upset or suddenly they look very worried. One of the places I see entrepreneurs especially get very tense around money conversations is when they're having a conversation with a potential client. And the client says to them, great, I understand what your services are, what do you charge? And there's this, I know because I have a lot of these people come to me as clients and say, I don't know what to say. Because if I say this number, maybe it's so high they're gonna go with somebody else. If I say that number, I'm low-balling myself. And just even trying to understand what my own value is and asking for it and believing that I'm going to receive it as well, what do you do with that situation? How might people navigate asking for the money they deserve? That's one of my favorite questions that I get often asked. Maybe one of the mostly asked questions about when can I raise my fee or how can I raise him more? It's universal, I get the same questions in China, Japan and Europe and US. So to answer it shortly, what you charge or attract certain client. If you charge, if you're a massage therapist, if you charge $10, you attract that kind of crowd. If you charge $50, you attract that kind of crowd. If you charge $100, that will attract different crowd. So you have to choose who you want to work with to begin with. That's very interesting, I've never heard that before. Yeah, people come, if you're just a client side, they just turn around, turn around the table. And if you want a massage, and if you are used to a $50 massage session, $10 is cheap, are you happy? Wow, $10 massage? You probably think, no, he or she's not good. And if it's a $200 massage, ooh, too much, I can't afford it. So people go to a massage therapist, depending on your past experiences and your budget. So what is interesting is it's the same with lawyers, accountants, coaches, what you charge will decide who you are going to attract. So you have to be very careful with what you do with prices. And so a lot of people ask me. So what I'm curious about is abundance beliefs. And I understand from reading your books that there are abundance beliefs that creating more abundance, but they're also very limiting beliefs. Why are some of the limiting beliefs that people might be living with, but maybe they're not aware of? So we often get boxed in when we think there is not enough. That gives you a choking feeling like, I can't breathe. So when you realize that there may be a roof above your head and running water, especially if it's hot water, you're luckiest one on the planet. Luckiest probably 10, 20% on this planet. And if you have more than three or four clothes, you're also great. Even though if it's not the high brand or the newest brand, if you have more than four sweaters or a sweat or a loa, you're in heaven. But since we are in comparison, we are forced to believe that we need more. We have to buy more, we deserve more. So unless we are stuck in this, unless we get out of this scarcity mentality, we feel like there's not enough. But think about survival. For survival, we have more than enough in terms of clothes. And these days, we have more than enough nutrition in our body, maybe we can eat ourselves off for years. So we have so much already in our system. So once you know that probably we should worry about letting go more, letting go over clothes, letting go over fat in our body system, instead of feeling like we need more, you can think like we could be happier with less. And that's why we're getting heavier and heavier because we're so afraid. When we're afraid, we eat more and then we try to store in our body. So that's why more financially challenged people are bigger than wealthy people. And what about somebody who's got a really particular dream? I'm thinking about somebody very specific in regards to what you're saying. And this person has a dream of world travel. They have not traveled nearly enough and yet they haven't created it. I know their money isn't where they dreamed it would be. But I see them doing what you're talking about, which is there is a certain level of consumerism happening. And even though there's a little bit, it's a client of mine, so I'm just keeping a little vague. But they do some savings without a doubt. However, the glaring neon sign is constantly, every year, world travel, world travel, but it's not created. World travel, world travel, but it's not created. What can be done there to bridge that gap? So that, I mean, first of all, what's a skew? What's really going on, right? And second of all, what can be done so that they can actually step into an align and say, arigato, travel, world travel. Yeah, so I was asked the exact same question about eight or nine years ago, huge auditorium. I think we got about 2,000 people. And the person who asked the question was a 20-year-old college student. And he said, I have no money, but I want to see the world. And people laughed because it's so naive, right? And I asked him, do you know how much it would cost to travel the world? He said, no idea, but I want to see the world. And everybody laughed. So do you have any plans? He said, no plan, no money. And they very laughed. That's what we are, right? And I suggested, why don't you ask a sponsor for $50 a month? So send me to the world campaign, you know? Ask your uncle, ask your neighbor, ask whoever, your friends. And then if you come up with 60, 70, ideally 100 people. And if you have like 30 people, 40 people, depending on where you go, if you get 30 people, you can go to a poor country, you know, it costs only like $5 a night. And if you just get 100 people, maybe you can travel Europe, US or, you know, fancy area. And a few months later, I kind of forgot about what I gave him. And then he showed up in the same, you know, place. And then he raised a question. And then I said, oh, you. And he said, Ken, I'm so excited. I'm here to thank you because I got like 70 people who placed to support me. So I'm going to the world next month. And like everybody clapped their hands. And then what I was so super amazed is that after that guy, hundreds of students started doing the same way and then went off the world, which is so amazing. And a few years later, middle-aged woman, she was in 40s or 50s, she also asked me the same question. I heard from you Ken, a lot of college kids or young people are being supported, but what about me? I'm not young, I'm not attractive, I'm single. And he said, but, you know, do you think a single person deserves world travel? And she said, yes, why not? And everybody just, you know, laughed and just give her a round of applause. And then she did the same thing. And then after that, middle-aged, I'm not attractive, what they call themselves, single guys and women, they started traveling again. So there's so many creative ways to do. And I can write a book on, you know, travel the world without a penny. Some of the photographers I heard from a friend of mine that they had a contract to give them pictures all over the world. So they tied up with an airline company and then they started reporting their young couple. And then in exchange for the articles and photos, they get the free air travel and plane tickets and four or five-star hotels. You know, you can get a deal like that, but that's kind of unusual. But, you know, if you are creative, there are millions of ways to do that. And the tragedy is that we cannot do that because of money. And it's not true. Powerful. I have a dear friend, Devin, who created a travel magazine. And he has said the very thing that you just said. He's told me that as somebody who owns this magazine, he basically travels everywhere for free. And he has the most adorable situation. He's been married to his wife and they travel together to all these countries and they get married in every single country. So now it's a thing. People are following up online and the hotels can't wait to even pay for their wedding for free. Yes, that's great. The photographers are free, right? Somebody in the country says, oh, well, you're gonna have to dress in the garb of our country. Here you go. They're photos. Everything's really taken care of their excursions. So that's very out of the box. And I've never sat down and had that conversation with them, but Devin has alluded to me, Deb, just by virtue of the fact that you do this podcast at the level you do, you probably could find a way to parlay that and use that for travel and go around the world. And I think that's a really interesting point of view. I wouldn't have considered, I love doing this. So to do this anywhere, as long as there's good connection and wifi, it could absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, you can come to Tokyo and do a joint podcast with me. I have a fairly big podcast program here too. We've hit 40 million downloads and a lot of people listen to this, so come and do that from Tokyo. That would be an option too. Thank you so much for saying that because when you say that, what I hear is that's manifestation. Yes. And it seems to happen so organically. And the most important thing is know who. If you're connected with the right people, things boom happening in two seconds. So I think meeting the right people and having the right friends is a key, is a door to your new world. So don't throw away your dreams. If it's, you said, neon sign is flashing. Yeah, go do it. Yeah, money will follow you. Money will follow you. And you are a family man and there are beautiful pictures of you and your family. And I know that you have a really special relationship with your daughter. So tell me, what do you feel as a dad who loves money, is happy with money, is peace with money and no attachment to money? What is it that you found very important to impart to your children? So I always taught my daughter to follow her heart, which is music for her. So she's probably going to a music career on her own and I strongly support her for doing that. And so there are so many ways to support yourself as a musician, writer, and so many other occupations. When I started writing, I had at least a hundred friends who said, you cannot make a living as a writer. And then of course, I wasn't becoming a professional writer as a vacation, but something in me really got upset. Okay, I'm gonna prove I can make enough money so I can at least make it as a profession. So that's why I got serious about writing. And this occupation is so hard, only like a hundred or a few hundred people can make a living, probably anywhere in the world in each language. And I did that. So I shared these techniques or the things with my daughter and I'm one of the examples who fold his heart and then make it the reality. So I'm sort of like showing with my life that life could be fun and beautiful. What's your secret around that? That's very interesting because one of the many things I do out in the world is coach people how to write a book. And so I'm curious and I agree with your statistics there. I feel that being an author can open many, many rich doors for people to incredible opportunities, not always necessarily financially. So the fact that you were able to figure that out, I find fascinating. So when you make that decision, and I love that that in the face of people saying, no, this can't happen, you're like, really? Watch me, this is gonna happen and good for you. What are some of the secrets of what you did in order to make this a prosperous career to be an author? You know, first of all, I said my mind that I was gonna publish a 10 million books in my life. And everybody laughed at me like, wow, you know, you'll be lucky if you just published one book. And that's like almost 20 years ago. And I started doing research like Dr. John DeMattini. You know, I did intensive research and I met all the best-selling authors and I asked them about the keys to writing great books. And I just figured if you write this way or that way, if you do this promotion, right, you know, your books would sell. So that's why I have published about 140 books or so. My original books is about 54 or five somewhere on that and sold almost eight million copies. So I really got the keys to unlock what needs to be successful as a writer, which I teach and write another book. I wrote a few books on how to be successful authors, but you know, so follow your heart is the key. Open your message, open and share your heart because if enough people, I say 10,000 people are interested in what you have to say. You can stay as a professional writer. And if you can make a number to 100,000 people, you know, you do fairly well. And if you do that with meeting people, you become a millionaire. So it depends on how many people you can touch. So if you have a big heart and let meeting people in your heart, you know, with your love, 100,000 people will love you by your books. So beautiful. I'm speaking with Ken Honda. He is Japan's number one best-selling personal development guru. And he teaches you how to achieve peace of mind when it comes to money. If you wanna learn more, go to kenhonda.com. I'm curious Ken, I believe that you are compared to Marie Kondo, the Japanese organizing consultant and author. How does that feel to be compared to her? And have you had the chance to meet her? I have so many mature friends. So it's kind of even strange that we haven't met each other. We published from the same publishing house in Japan. So I really feel honored that she's doing great and also people compare with me. So I think probably we share something in the comment. Appreciation. When she teaches about cleaning up the house, she says, you know, thank the thing that you're throwing away, right? And that's the same thing. Appreciation is a key. So I feel so honored and validated that appreciating life is valued more internationally. And I think it's a core of Japanese culture, respecting each other, appreciating one another, appreciating all the details that people won't notice. That's beautiful. I believe that I have a new practice starting tomorrow. So I'm extremely disciplined with my bills. I have them in one place and they're in date order, how they're due. Yes, so every Friday I open that package and then I pick out whatever is due from that date till the next Friday. And I pull that out and that's when I pay, right? And everything else sits there because it's not not due yet. I'm gonna write a big, beautiful note that says thank you. And I'm gonna put it on top of my bills to remind me every single time I do that, really, it's a ritual on Friday, I'm gonna take time to thank energetically for everything it's given me already in advance that I've been enjoying and send out payments with that. Thank you and see how your financial situation changes because it will change. And I've witnessed hundreds of thousands of people. I got so many testimonials on my website that their financial life has shifted so much. And what's great about it is it doesn't cost anything, just appreciation, appreciation doesn't cost anything. So just, how fun do that? That's so true, appreciation is free and it creates so much more, so many other good things. And I think it was Lynn Twist who said appreciation, appreciation appreciates, so it's true. It's like a 401K plan or an ROI as you appreciate the return on your investment goes up. So that's good for you in every way. And Ken, this is Dare to Dream. So what's you next Dare to Dream? What are your future dreams and goals? As I said, Dr. John DeMartini is my hero. And I love to travel like him and I love to teach and talk with people in the world and heal the pain around money and free a lot of people from money, both financially and emotionally. And I think I'll have so much fun doing that. So I can't wait to go to China, US, Europe, India, Africa to share what I know. That's beautiful. And is there one thing that you do every day, no matter what, it's your ritual, it's your practice that allows you to be who you are, allows you to create the life that you have. I always start my day and end my day with appreciation. I started appreciating who I am and all the people surrounding me. I'll definitely appreciate you, Davey, for having me to show at the end of my day today. And just a feel, wow, what a great honor and how much fun I had during the day. So I was just falling to sleep in this prayer of appreciation and thankfulness. So that's what I do. Well, Arigato, Ken, for sharing your brilliance today on Dear to Dream. It's been such a pleasure to have you. Thank you. Thank you so much. I hope to see you soon somewhere. Hello, we're Tokyo. We're Tokyo. That sounds amazing for me and thank you for that invitation. I shall not forget. And I end today's show with this quote from Ayn Rand. Money is only a tool. It will take you wherever you wish, but it will not replace you as the driver. I've got some amazing guests coming on and you'll want to tune in. In the next weeks, Lana Nelson's gonna be here. She's an attritional, intuitive. She's incredible. She's gonna be doing readings for you in real time about your body and what foods it likes and which it will not tolerate. She's the author of the food codes. As well, David Wood will be here to talk about how to play for real, high performance for work and for life. Remember, subscribe to the show and keep going after your dreams. Allow them to be created and courage is all it takes to begin in the first place. I really bless all the great things happen to you in life. Thank you. That's very kind. I feel the same. This is really a pleasure. It was meant to be. It took them six months to get us together, but it was meant to be. That's right. Please say hello to your friends. I was so happy with you. I will, thank you. Okay. All right, Ken. Yes. All right, see you soon. Yes, we will. And I will send you copies of this when it goes out. Thank you so much. Have a beautiful day. Thank you. Bye now. Bye.