 Mamu vipem penzim tizumaju ASP embaz Inakwa jesu keleo numezo kupotana namusani yambawamusani wangili Ali anza sana akiwam young sana kwenya industry miaka zakin na nani na nani Lakini Ndutaya kena azimiwa kia kwenya sana hi kwishi ya hapa Balia li pata fusa kweza kutoka kenya Aka safiria kenda Europe kido kuna Aka jkulisha na sana ake bile bile Aka ndile na maisha ake kama kawahida Amirudi in Chini na Amirudi na kikapu yamatunda Matunda ni kowa sana Matunda ni kwa na industry Matunda yoti ni kwa fahiri am Kenya Namitizamaju ASP embaz Mamu vipem bro Freshi Freshi sana bro Fahiri amitizamaju embaz wali mbawana kutizama kumariya kwanza Nivizuri waju na ito na nani na maisha vipe Mine ito abani asila Kutoka Nairobi hi Musani Njimboza kiki Njimboza gospel music I'm from Nairobi Kenya But I live in Finland currently So I'm doing different projects in Finland And now I'm here so, yeah Wemi ni Musani wa injili Wemi ni gospel artist Nuskwizi gospel artist Tatuji ni gospel artist Tututangalia mienendo Tututangalia mavazi Tututangalia injili Tututangalia wimbo Tufouti ni ipe Tufouti ni roh Kilimpa na wana We have people are different Utandru suni yongge nichanganyi How much is it? People are different So it depends on somebody's calling Somebody's passion Why are you doing the gospel music? So I can't really say I can't really say If it's about the outlook Gospel music is not about the outlook Vilatuna kwangalia Mtazamu kuleinje It's about the heart Napia The actions that come out of Your normal day-to-day life Mambokayo So as a Christian As a gospel music artist What you do Should actually affect Other people's lives Positively So you should be an inspiration in the society So that's what I am So people have different Callings, different passion Different reasons why they do gospel music So I can't really speak about other people But I can speak about myself So that's why I do what I do Is it in a better position to tell us Because one being an artist Is it a calling to be an artist? Yes it is definitely It's a calling It's passion It's doing what you like Because first for you to do music Whichever kind of music it is But now for me, gospel music You really have to love it And you can't love what you don't It really has to come from within Because sometimes You might be doing music But then it's not paying So if it's not a calling If you're not passionate about it Then you might stop Or maybe drift away from what you're doing Laki ni kama nilektu kukoroyako Kwa hatiako yani wunaipenda tu sana So it doesn't matter kama nalipa, halipi Because that's what you That's what is in you It's something that you're called to do And then you're doing it because of so many reasons Not just the material stuff So for me it's a calling So people are called in different ways And then the grace Pena lingana na grace yamsi Mimtuna na grace aina gani Uki linga nisha nyimbozileza kina kama vili wuna sema Nyimbozileza kama Angela Chibalonza delet Meiha sol rest in peace Wakatiuna pita Sikusina yandapia Times are changing And then of course there is the generational Different generations are coming up So there could be some difference In terms of how people are doing music now Nahizo and those times But again the message is still the same Gospel music Injili will always remain The Bible says that the word of God will come to be here And it will be here forever and ever It is here for eternity So it doesn't matter how you communicate It doesn't matter how you reach out How you write your songs or whatever you're doing I think the most important thing is Why you're doing the gospel music Why you're doing it And the kind of music that you do And your lifestyle Because your lifestyle should reflect The music that you're doing People have different lifestyle We've seen Kenyan gospel artists They're living large Ya you can live large But still be a Christian Like me I live large But I'm Christian Now I can't go with the teachings and the preaching Because what I'm saying is that We can see few individuals maybe Of course we're human beings We make mistakes We've seen individuals now In places we're buying Of course we cannot judge Only God can judge us I'm on a party I'm on a club I'm on a party That's different If living large is about Starehe Starehe ile ya ku Madem, kufanyanini Suji, Paomba enini That is totally different I don't agree with that But if living large is Just living your life God akiki kublesiha tu daji fichaban God akiki kublesiha tu daji hende shagariako I'm out of panda So if that is what you mean Then I agree That is okay You should do that kind of life Even if you're a Christian Lakin ikama nile stareha Ile kuleinje vilu na sema Paomba Wana dadanini I don't You don't agree with that No, no, no You don't agree with that Because sometimes Mila Juliza Because for one to be Of course it's a calling For one to be a gospel artist Understand you are a very Spiritual gospel artist Do you take time to read Bible Do you take time maybe To go for a training For a session Because I believe For one to write a song You have to understand the Bible Is it a mask for someone To have a background Of course we've gone through Systema by Wilan Siari The Bible I think that it's wise But it's not a must It's wise to know the Bible As a gospel As a Christian Gospel music artist It's wise But it's not a must Because God Can call anybody The Bible says that God Can even use tones To praise him Mawe haja Soma mawe haja Hende shule So it doesn't It is very wise As a Christian Because there are so many challenges And for you to overcome The challenges You have to know the word You have to pray also But it's not that If you don't know the word God has ikutumia God has ikutumia God has ikutumia Irregardless Like me Yes, irregardless Because there are times There are times when There is an interview When I say There is a time Eric Komondi raised the concern When the years started To say It's a calling Mungamimungalesha Gospel artists are doing it wrong It brought so many Conversation, debate People were like No I have ikutumia When I am here And then It has a difference In the industry Because people were hating What Eric was saying And Eric was being honest Yes Yes Bina damu No one is comfortable With being corrected Amabai being corrected And then nobody is perfect So even me I am imperfect In my own way I am not perfect So Eric Komondi Is a kwa lisa maqitu Maybe he is a kwa zamungine Maybe he is a kwa nafanya kitu And sometimes We might not be doing things Either knowingly Or unknowingly Ineza kwa maybe sijuwi Mi na ona mi nkosawa Lakini sijuwi I am not informed So kule nje Ule mginai kwangali And do anona E umte Vile nafanya If I kwa nafanya evo So Eric kwa neza kwa nongia From that point of view But for me As the person Ule mbae na communicateua I take it differently So that's That could be the reason For that kind Yeah Since you are away So many things happened You know You left when you were young Very angry To be in the industry Of course you are in the industry With some few songs Now there are transitions The generations that were there There is a new generation Of course they are coming Another new generation While you are away So many things happened Just to mention few Because There used to be gospel awards There used to be a gospel wave A groove awards You know The Kesha The Zatifas vibes You know, everything happened But now this Even the funds Even our churches now There are so many things Happened differently Now from your point of view Are we heading to the end As the final end coming Because we are divided I can tell that I can feel that You can see that as well Yeah The Bible says that When the end times In the book of Revelation When it gets to that time Kuta kwa na so many Acts that will happen So as you are putting it That could be a signal For It could be a signal for such Or for those times But it doesn't mean that the world Is coming to an end Life has to go on It doesn't mean Sikama village Shaka holon I'm here in Asia And then things happen So the fact that Very weird things are happening Currently Or maybe people are divided Gospel music has shifted The way people do their music Things have shifted Some people have even moved away From gospel music It doesn't mean that the world Is coming to an end We will still be here People will still be here Even after we have gone There will still be new people And that's why I'm doing what I'm doing That's why I'm coming back home That's why Because I've been doing my tours My gospel music tours In Finland, in Europe I've been to Sweden I've been to Germany Doing my own tours I've been to Spain I've been to Estonia I've been to France I've been to so many countries Doing my own gospel music tours But then Looking back at home I felt it's also wise It's also very wise To come back home So that's why I'm coming back to Nairobi That's why I'm here Like now I have about 15 singers Who are here They came all the way From Finland Wa Mekuja for a tour For a music tour And they'll be here For 7 days We're doing with them A tour in Nakuru After this We have about 45 singers Who are coming again To Nafanyanao tour Nairobi, Nakuru For about 7, 8 days And then we also go to Mombasa And these guys are coming From different countries They're coming from Spain They're coming from Germany They're coming from the US They're coming from Norway So these are some people That we have already been Doing tours with them Over there in Europe That's why we're having Another group also Coming back Coming to Kenya in July On 5th of July We have a very huge Worship concert in Nakuru We have another concert In Masaimara Something that hasn't happened before So as you're saying These things used to happen before That's what you said, I think But now it seems like Things are not the same again That's why we're coming Godana tumiawa To be different Godana raise Different new generation Godana raise new people To come and take over So it's not that the world is coming To an end Amat nalekia muisho Amat gospel music in Nafifia No, no, no There are so many people that Even me, if I didn't do it There are many people that God could use But I'm gracious I'm humble enough So we have tours I'm doing in Nairobi, Nakuru Masaimara, Mombasa And then after this I'm going back to Europe I have my tour there again From August, mid August Until September I'm going to Switzerland I'm going to Spain I'm going back to Finland also To Sweden After that I'm coming back again With my team We have a tour in Nairobi Nakuru, Mombasa, Kisumu So there are so many things coming up As you come on As you come on As you come on I was sitting there Because I want to ask you About now your tour Are you bringing artists All across the world What is your aim? What do you want to change? Are you planning to work With the local gospel artists? Definitely We are planning to work With the local gospel artists To show you Why that is important Last year we had a group Of about eight people From Nairobi here Who came to Finland I invited them there And then we had some tours together And they were there for two months And that has really helped many people Because from them They are those people Who have been able to get Different opportunities over there A year before We also had about 15 people Who we had tours with them In Finland In Sweden, in Netherlands And out of that group We have about four people Who are already over there Doing different things musically So by me coming here With my team We are not just doing It's not just about me Or my own music But you're also creating other platforms For guys who are here Like now that you're going to Nakuru We're engaging so many local artists That are coming on board In Nakuru alone We will have about 150 singers That are coming along We have international choir directors That are coming also And they'll be having sessions With these guys And then we are also intending to Actually let me mention this We intended to start a music school So that we can create a platform Where these guys Can actually be also going to Europe It doesn't mean that We are Sisi to Kocini No, no, no But just creating a platform A balanced platform Where we will be able to Be able to learn How to do music How to create music How to create gospel music How to reach out And then we will be able to Be able to explore the world Yes, yes My question was coming too Because you can have a nice program You can have a nice show Now when it comes to Preventation What is next for that few Individuals that you've identified That have talent Because once you believe Your country to go back You have your own life I have my own life to live Now what will happen to now To the artists that you Identify the individuals That you want to mentor That's why we're in the process Of establishing a music school As I mentioned And that is coming up from Next year We want to have A sustainable way Of empowering these guys So that We don't just work with them For one month We can be able to sustain That mentorship program So that in the next Two, three, four years We can have a click of people That we'll be proud of Like now we have a click Of people that are in Europe Catasy of my brand Catasy of our organization That have been able to do Different things And they're now staying there So we're going to talk About how to help up here So that after Two, three, four, five years We're going to help them And say, come on God, thank you to me I'm a Flandi I'm an organization Flandi I've been working with Yes, yes So we thank God That he has given us This opportunity That now aims to me To provide a long term Mentorship to so many guys And of course, yes I can tell the future is bright now Let's talk about your music You haven't changed your vibes You haven't changed the message You haven't changed the rhythm Concept is still the same You are becoming another Sensational artist in town What is the plan You want to take this piece You want to be the new chairman Of Gospel What is it? I'm a chairman of Gospel We're not there We're focusing on Very different things My music is very different Right now I'm doing I'm doing so many I will call myself An international brand Why call yourself an international brand Why? Because I do concerts On weekly basis I do concerts internationally Last month Before I came here I was in Spain For a week Have you checked my tour? Have you seen my tour? I've just seen your page But I didn't go to it Last week Before I came here I was in Spain I was in Sweden I was in Estonia Doing tours Music concert tours And after I go back I'm still going to Switzerland I'm going to I'm going to Netherlands I'm going to I'm going to I'm going back to Spain So I have a huge I have a huge I have a huge brand banner out there So when we're chairman I can't No No People are different People have different vision People have Different passion As I told you So that's not my focus That's not my area of focus Okay Just understand this Any collaboration so far Any artist you're looking maybe for To partner, work with About have a session or mentor My team hasn't thought of that Yet They haven't mentioned But if something comes up So you never know about Keshu Maybe something might happen There could be some kind of Interest from either parties Myself or somebody else I will in mind That we are open to New ideas working with people But so far we haven't really planned That this is what you're doing Yes, yes But we are currently Focused on pushing Our own projects and brands And different other activities Yes I believe you're in a better position To tell us maybe What are we doing wrong As gospel artist What are we doing wrong Is there something you feel like We're doing it wrong As gospel artist Yes, gospel industry The glory is gone That is personal That is personal No, you can see it You can just suggest maybe Because we don't Because what happened to Kusemokweli What happened to Kusemokweli I know you have An individual that Individual gospel artist That you normally sometimes listen to Yes You prefer to listen to Of course there are friends There are those friends That you feel like It's about them Of course you don't need to mention them But from an artist's point of view You can say We are missing out on this Are we focusing more on Shobis No, I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that You said that You know or you think There could be some artists That I'm looking up to I'll give you an example By the way Yeah, I listened to By the way, next year Towards the end of the year We are planning to bring Kirk Franklin here Into our next Music gospel festival Next year So my team is In the process Of engaging him So that's one of the guys That I look up to And then you also mentioned Angela The late Yes Angela the late It makewa hapo For ages And it's still there So I don't know If people are not I don't know if people are not Doing things From a long time Point of view I don't know ...we should look for long-term basis ... ...we should not see just physique with gospel musiki. ...but now... It is not just about there now. ...it's about the future.... ...it's about something I haven't heard about until the time Kajo founding. Kamaviliu naongi ya kusu Angela Until now, Goda Limchukua over 10, 20 years ago But how easy we are still talking about her So that's the question people should be asking themselves So I can't speak about other artists But for me, that's what I'm looking at Artists but you can comment and suggest maybe You know why because we are here to engage I believe Bani you have something to say Because why we are doing interview Because to inform, educate and entertain as well I feel we still have a point maybe A valid reason to tell us Because for those that are aspiring Maybe to be gospel artists in future Maybe to learn from this interview There is something we are missing The glory days are gone On that point I will say I am a student of history I will say We are our We mentioned Angela Tibalonsa I'm happy you've mentioned that I will say Legend Yes, it's our home Yes, many more I think that Most of us Got to a point kakwa comfortable In the sense that We really were able to Engage almost the whole country in Kenya We were able to Wind souls We were able to really spread the message out there The message of hope about Christ We were able to really sing The real gospel music and people really came to Christ But then after that then what Then what Because most of these people Most of these people you're talking about We were born in Kenya We were born in Kenya too But how impactful has it been You can't compare us for example With people from Let's say Sinach Sinach amikwa And now in souls God has been raised from one glory to the other Okangalia what comea kina Let's say Adah for example God has been raised from one glory to another Okangalia, kama hum say We mentioned kakwa God has been raising them from one glory to the other And that is all about Being Christian By being Christian There must be growth by glory From here to the next step From one glory to the next step But for us I think I think they lack some kind of transition They lack some kind of Moving out there I think so, I will say so That is why you can't mention somebody by name Who maybe has gone beyond Our country Beyond Kenya Like we will say Sinach Sinach is a preach Sinach is a share word Sinach Juzio emikwaki In the community Minister Chacha is a joylosting A massive Imagine all those people Want to follow Christ Want to identify through That lady So you can imagine, but we haven't had our people, those that we look up to do that. Oh, they are comfortable with titles and positions and money. Ya, so that's why when you ask me about chairman, I can't answer that because that's not my focus. I'm focused on so many other, yes, yes, I'm focused on how can I grow from one glory to another. How can I reach out there in minister, not just in Kenya. How can I be used by God, how can I be a vessel so that God can use me, not just in Kenya, not just in Europe, not just in Finland, not just in Spain. I can go to the US, I can go to Japan, I can go to Asia, I can go to all these places. These other people from outside other countries are moving around. They are going out there to share the word, to spread the word through the gifts that God has put in them. But for us, it hasn't happened. Opportunities are not there for us? They are there. Opportunities are there. Are we selfish? I think it's about the transition and people are comfortable, I think. Ununasa wuki sama, I'll refer again to the statement chairman. Why will I want to be a chairman? For what? I laugh not at you. Eh? Chairman of gospel? I haven't get any. What chairman? I can't focus on such man. That is not what I'm called to do. I'm not called to be chairman for what? I'm called to do so many things. Like now I'm bringing 200 gospel singers. That's amazing. Yeah, 200 gospel singers from 9 countries. From Norway, from Switzerland, from Spain, from Finland, from Germany, from Japan, from Estonia, from... I mean, that is Asia. Japan, from USA, from Brazil. Gospel singers. So why will I be doing such? I laugh not at you, I'm a chairman. There is an end goal you want to achieve. I believe now you have what it takes now to be the face of the gospel interest in Kenya. Because what you are doing is you are trying to impact, you are trying to bring the glory back, you are trying to educate, you are trying to sell our culture, you are trying to praise God. Are there opportunities now, once they are here, our local artists, our local gospel artists, forget about the upcoming gospel artists. Yeah, but you see, I can't put myself there and say I'm the face of gospel music in Kenya. But no one has done what you are doing. So it's for them to say, it's for them to see, it's for them to learn, it's for them to... But I can't see easy jack up on same... Of course you can't claim, but people will say what you are doing. Nashkormungu. If that happens, then Nashkormungu. My objective is to create a platform to have, not just to minister in Kenya, but to minister also internationally. Because we don't have limits, man. E-E-E-E, God only to... God only to... Yes, yes, we don't have limits. My objective is to have those guys come to Kenya, create also platforms for other guys from here so that they can also have openings, not just in Kenya, but internationally. Look at South Africa, look at TZ, look at Nigeria, look at what they are doing. But actually we can go here about 8, 9, 10 years ago, we can reach out sana in terms of music, actually gospel music, we can share sana, reach sana through our music. Our music was rich, it used to be listened by so many, actually globally, I would say in the African continent, but not anymore. So that's why we have, that's why we are coming in to fill that gap. Because there's a gap as you are also putting it, there's that gap. It's a process of taking time, just understand maybe as we wind up. It's not something that you'll do it alone. You need a team. I don't know now are there offices, are there a team that is working on that because you have a busy schedule, you have your tour bag, your visitors will leave. Now what will happen once you are away? I have a team of course, the team that's managing all my projects in terms of music and also in terms of the project implementation. I have separate teams that are doing that. So even if I'm not around, things are still moving. That's why we are even already planning for the festival next year. Next year we are actually looking at having 1,000 singers all across the globe. So far we have about 600 that have already made confirmations from Denmark, from USA, from Switzerland, from Sweden, across Europe and they've already made confirmations but our target number is 1,000. I told you we are looking at having, my team is in the process of engaging Kakfrantli because he's really been, yes, in terms of gospel music. He's one of the guys that has really pioneered. So my team is doing a great job. Even if I don't have a great team that is supporting me, I told you in the month of December this year, we are planning for my tour now in Kenya. We are coming to do my tour, my music to reach out. We really want to reach out from different corners in this country. We are moving to Nairobi, of course it will be Nairobi here, we'll be in Mombasa, we'll be in Kisumu, we'll be in Eldoret, we'll be in Nyeri. So my team is building up that plan. We have also, my team is building up a plan about the tour to Europe. After I finished this one, we are leaving Kenya in the month of July on 27th. After that we go to prepare for the tour in Europe. We have a month tour in Europe. After that then we start pushing for December and then of course there is next year. So I have a huge team with me. I have offices in Nakuru, Nairobi. Things are moving. I don't have to be, yes, definitely have to be here. Of course many upcoming aspiring gospel artists will want to maybe partner, volunteer, come on board. I don't know if there are social handles, social media platforms whereby they can reach out. Yeah, they can reach out. Facebook, Bani Asila, Insta at Asila Bani, YouTube you can DM me at Asila Bani. And then of course they could also watch my music, my new song and my other projects also. They are welcomed. We have a very big gig in Nakuru on the 9th of July. That's the biggest gig we are doing. I'm singing alongside 200 singers from Europe. We are also doing some projects with them. We are in the process of doing the audio, video production, both from there and then from finishing up when they come here. So they should join us also on that day. If we get the information early enough, they could also be slotted in the program. We have so many people coming on board. We have the ambassadors, we have the European Union ambassador who is coming on board. We have the Finnish ambassador to Kenya who is coming on board. We have the Swiss ambassador to Kenya's representative that's coming on the 9th of July. We have the county government in Nakuru, the governor herself, she's also coming on board. So this is quite a huge project. Gospel artists, locals, both Nairobi, Kenya, Nakuru, wherever you are, Mombasa, feel free to reach out and then let's do stuff together. For your fans that are watching maybe, they always love your work, they always want to support your work, talk to them. Maybe there's something cooking before the concert? There are so many projects cooking. There are so many things coming up. We have several. I call my songs projects because we really invest time in them. I call other projects that we do projects like the music school I told you about that's a project. It's not just a song. We're not just doing a song that we're doing a song. No, no, no. So we have so many projects coming up. There are so many surprises before the festival, before 9th of July, before 12th of July in Masaimara, before the Mombasa tour. We have so many surprises coming up. So they should stay tuned for the great surprises that are coming up. We've been watching Bani for the first time. Let them know your social media handles as well. At Asila Bani, insta, reach out, let's do stuff together. Bani Asila Facebook and then of course YouTube Bani Asila. I've been doing this in Europe. I have a great support in Europe. So I'm looking forward to also work together with my family in Kenya in this journey. This is your home. Kenyans will definitely support you. Talk to the gospel industry, gospel artist. Because a message to them. Because some of them want to secular. People are bashing out them. They're calling their names. You as an artist, some things happen. You know, life sometimes in Mani na Shuka. Una kusakwenda karnisa. Atakunado na samalazimu henda chas. Now these people watch 10 church services across socials. Talk to gospel artist, gospel industry. I think that the sky is not the limit. And let's aspire to grow. Twachana na imambu ya Kenya. Twachana na imambu ya Niyake. Shawryake. It's not about, it's not my life. So a family an ataka. Lakin ni twachana na Kenya is. Kenya i me toshaba. Kenya i kusakwenda fanya. We've reached out in Kenya. Let's aspire to grow. There's so many. There's a huge space out there. There's a huge space. Uki angalia kule angel ki enda in concerts. You don't hear of any... My message is that people should aspire to grow beyond Kenya. People should aspire to grow beyond Kenya. And then these debates are chairmen. Apana. Apana. That's not my... How can I even... Where do I get time to think about it? Right now I have... You saw them. Yeah, yesterday. Yes. We were there at the airport. Yes. The next week I have 55 singers coming. Yes. Singers. Atituari singers. Gospel music ministers. After that. After that we have 200. A flight over 150 people coming. Okay. So I'm going to... I'm going to go to the chairmen. And then things to be done. All right. Shukran sana kuzungmila nasi na... Imani piya wumaeza kuongelesya wataeza kujufunza na... Kitwa wamaeza jufunza. Gospel artists. There are so, so many opportunities out there. Yes, yes. Ya ni imagine kuna concert skubu asana si na happen. Asia, France, Ghana. Lakin na kuna gospel artists kutuka Kenya na enda. Jamani. Let's challenge ourselves. I know we have cars. I know we have money. I know we are living large. There is so much... There is so much than that. There is nothing. Pesas, yunini. There is so much to life. Amma to gospel music. To reaching out. Than just these material things. We are not called to... Don't look at the money. Amma de ka. Atakama una garikumi una pesangati. Ura ishi runda. No, that's not gospel music. There is so much. Imagine kama ukonahio na you haven't done anything. Imagine Sinach. You haven't done anything na ukonahio. So imagine if God gave you that grace to go beyond Kenya. And then now be that person that you have been. What kind of life will you be living? So we can just arrange everything. That's not for me Iban. My focus is not the Range Rover. My focus is not security. Two million three million. No. There is so much. There is so much for telling you. Sinach. I was at her concert, by the way, in the U.S. I was in that place at Joel Austin's church when she was there, when she was ministering. About almost fifty thousand people. Nasiwa Kenya. Wipes. Will you want such a thing to minister in that kind of place? Or will you want a Range Rover? Maybe I want something that will impact you. Will you want to be driving up a street in Nairobi at a Range Rover and see this? Amu na takaku minister. Of course, what of God come. Exactly. That is really blessing. Yes. So for me, it's not about that. We don't have money. We don't have money. It's not about Peter. But then after we talk about what happens. That is why, we know Lisa, we know Mia, Gospel music industry in Kenya in a shift. That's what you told me. See Mimi? That's what you said. Five, ten years ago, it was different from now. Because our focus is different. Let's focus on ministering. Let's focus on reaching out. Let's focus on impacting lives. That's what guys are doing here, out here. Let's not focus on material things. Alright. Ita kuangumu. Ita kuangumu, lakini watajaribu. Thank you for speaking to us. I don't have much to say. I understand you have a lot to do. So God bless you. I'm looking forward to work with you to support you anytime. And for the industry, hopefully we'll understand, we'll learn something from this exclusive interview. We know here to bash names or here to troll names. But we're here to educate and inform. Thank you so much Bani. Na, God bless you. Na, thank you. Shukran sana. Alright bro. Na, thank you. Na, the next two. Na, the next two. Si, paspotiko. Paspotiko.