 Hello and welcome to NPS goals to Casa Palusa. I am delighted to be here with two of the band members from Heroes and Hiding. Well guys, how's the form? Pretty good, yeah. Just off stage, pretty happy here. Yeah, so tell us a little bit about just being off stage. You had the rain and stuff, but it was a great performance. What do you make of it all? Yeah, it was really cool. We got a little stamp made last night. Oh, well, obviously not last night, but we went around stamping people last night. That was our shame and self-promotion. So we got a really good crowd there because of that. So all in all, very pleased. As well as just doing Casa Palusa, you're just back from the Secret Salters Festival. Yes, I've got it, I've got it, I've got it. How is that, what was the main highlight of that? The highlight of that was probably our driver, Joey, great guy. But the actual festival itself is fantastic. Reykjavik is just, it's really an exceptional city. Bit expensive, but definitely worth visiting. Do you want to tell us a little bit more about Joey, the driver? I feel like you have a story about Joey, the driver. Joey was a strange individual at first, but he was also very warm and very compassionate about what he did. So it was more about the sort of connection that he had with the band, and then we brought that connection on stage with us. It was like Joey was another member of the band, really. Good man, Joey, I'm glad. Glad Joey was a good driver. Also, just on a more serious note, just from listening to your music and stuff like that, and your new release, Cannes Dance, I'm just wondering about how you come up with the lyrics. Is it basically you start with the lyrics and then you work the music into it, or you come up with a sound and then hope the lyrics follow? Usually, well for the most parts of it, Joe, the singer has kind of written the bones of a song, and then he'll kind of take it to the band, and when everyone has their own sort of style of playing, you'll kind of pull it in different directions. So by the end of it, we have something resembling the heroes in Hiding Sand. And also, what's in store for heroes in Hiding Next? John Murray has made out that you're the next indie hitmaker. So what's your plan? Big thank you to John Murray as well for saying that. So the plan at the moment is we were just gonna finish up festivals. I think it's the Weave Le Calo on Monday, and then after that, we are gonna take a little break to try and do some writing and record, and hopefully by Cannes, September, October, we'll have a new EP written, and then look into recording and releasing that, and onwards from there, I suppose. Right, guys, thank you so much for this interview. It's been great. Thank you for having us. And this has been Heroes in Hiding for MPS Girls to Casabalooza.