 Okay, good evening. We'll go ahead and get started now. And just to let those of you know that recently joined, I am Jen Santos. I'm the deputy director for the city of Santa Rosa parks department. And we're here today to talk about Dutch floor neighborhood park and the master planning process that we're going to take you through. Before we get started today, I wanted to introduce folks within the city team that are working in the background. You'll see them as host Bernard, which is Mr. Tim Bernard, who is the project manager for this project and he'll be hosting behind the scene for us helping us out today. As well as host Andrew with who is Emily Andrew staff member here in parks as well, be helping behind the scenes. And I'll look to our consultant team to introduce themselves. Thanks, Jen. Hi, everyone. My name is Healy Watterson. I'm with plural we're a landscape architecture studio based in San Francisco. We're happy to be here tonight, excited about this project. Yes, I am also excited. Thank you so much Haley. I also want to take a moment to recognize those in your community government that are joining us today. We also have a council member Natalie Roger Rogers joining us viewing in tonight. As well as two board of community services member Carol quant chair of the board of community services place Terry Griffin Griffin community boards of service member, and that is a council appointed board that helps us negotiate parks and rec items. So this item will at one point be coming before the board as well as council in the future. So again just wanted to thank everybody very much for taking time out of your busy schedules on a Thursday evening to join us to talk about your park your neighborhood park. Before we get started I just have a few housekeeping things for us to go over. And so, panelists and presenters, please silence your cell phones and introduce and keep your microphones muted if you're not speaking. So with the public joining this meeting will have webcams and microphones muted. If you're phoning to if you're joining by phone, and you choose to speak during the public comments portion of the agenda for privacy concerns, the host will rename you to caller, and only short show the last four digits of your phone number. Additionally, the city of Santa Rosa is committed to providing a safe and inclusive environment free from disruption and will not tolerate hateful speech or actions. Everyone is expected to participate respectfully, or if necessary the meeting will end immediately. First Bernard, will you please explain how public comments will be heard at today's meeting. Yes, at the end of the presentation the facilitator will open the floor for questions and answers public comments. The host will lower hands until the public comment item is open. Once the facilitator has called for public comment the facilitator will ask the public to raise their hand if they wish to speak. 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Thank you host Bernard and let's roll to the next slide. And while that's happening I wanted to take this opportunity to let everybody know in advance of the presentation that if for any reason you need to leave we do we are going to post this presentation and its entirety. On the city's recreation and parks website, as well as we have some polling for you questions we're going to ask you today. Those questions will also be in a survey format on our website. If you have neighbors that weren't able to attend tonight, or if you feel like you need to leave if you can't stay for the entire presentation. Feel free to jump to our website that information should be posted. We'll try sometime before the end of next, the end of Friday next week, hopefully earlier in the week, we should have that up for you just in case so if there's any, any time where you need to leave, feel free this will be available for you. And so, just to get us started we are going to go through several things in it. We're going to look at site analysis. We're going to look at the program and feel of the park we're going to review and look at q amp a. Essentially, we're going to go through funding as well project goals and objectives, and we will also give you the schedule that we have prepared. We're going to look at the planning process, and we'll take you through that master planning process as well. And then our consultants plural will take us through a site analysis of what is possible at the park, and look at the program and feel of options we have. And as the host mentioned, we do have a question and answer period for you so we have plenty of time for that. And we also have some really fun samples of park ideas from our neighboring BLM elementary school. They did a lot of hard work already and put together some great, great information for you. And let's see, we already have a question let's see if I can. To you. Yeah, we'll make sure to get to that. Let's, let's go ahead and get started with our presentation next slide please. So just as just by way of that, you can see Highway 101 on the right of your screen and Highway 12 highlighted on the lower, and then the colored pink area is Dutch floor neighborhood park and we have the elementary school next to it. There's also some labeling of some streets so you can kind of get your bearings there. Next slide. Thank you. So when we talk about where this park where this park is at and what sort of funding we have. We think about it at the city in terms of quadrants. And hopefully you can see from this map the quadrants there are four quadrants in the city, where we collect and hold funding for projects like this. And your park is the little blue dot within the yellow area of the city. And highway want to run one is shown the black line in the middle of the screen, going from top of your screen to the bottom and highway 12 is left to right just for bearings. And when a developer comes to the city to develop a residential area. They can either provide the city with park land some sort of park usage or they can pay park development impact fees, which allows the city to purchase and acquire and build new parks as well as retrofit existing park land and that those are the funds we're using for that so it's funds collected in this quadrant and they stay in this area to be used for the needs of this of this quadrant. And we do have funding enough funding for this project and the council has already approved our contract with plural and associates to help us guide us through the design process. And this, the park is coming to our attention at this time because of its need to be the equipment is needing replacement so you have two playgrounds at the park. And we have a list of playgrounds that are in need of replacement and this has risen to the top of the list in this quadrant so we are taking this time to to delve in that into that tonight. We are also taking the time to ask what else you would like in your park besides just replacing the playgrounds. If anything, or if you like it the way it is so we're going to ask you a bunch of questions tonight but as far as the funding and location this is how we think about it. Next slide please. So, this is a bit wordy but essentially how we get started, our process to take you through this is to look at updating a master plan and the process we take you through that is the neighborhood meeting for have tonight is neighborhood meeting number one, where we're presenting information about what we're doing and what we're up to. We're collecting information from you all, and we're also meeting with stakeholders such as our neighboring school. And if there's any other groups or agencies we should be meeting without there we also be meeting with them to collect feedback. The next step will be neighborhood meeting number two will come back to the community with updated information based on the feedback we receive from not only this evening but our online survey and other meetings we might have with stakeholders. And the final meeting meeting number three is where we'll present a draft master plan that is something that everybody has put hard work into, and, and it's based on all the previous information we've received, and we can usually do the master planning process within three meetings some some communities take longer. So here in the coffee park neighborhood for instance took a little bit longer. They had a little bit of a unique situation there where we're replacing the entire park. Due to the loss of that park and the Tubbs Nets fire. So here we believe that we can move through this within three public meetings but if we need to have more we can certainly do that. We're satisfied as a as a neighborhood with the look and feel of the master plan will move to the board of community services. They are a council appointed board and will present this information to them and receive feedback, as well as a recommendation for council approval. That is also a public meeting where you can provide additional feedback. We're at the city council for approval which is also our public process where you can provide additional feedback. Once that document is approved then we can move into the construction process. Next slide please. So some of you might be thinking what the heck is a master plan. Here is some samples for you. So on the top is a sample of Kauana Springs Community Park that was recently finished and essentially it's a graphic. It's a it's a map it's a plan of what the neighborhood or community has decided they would like to see as amenities in their park. And so Kauana Springs Community Park is a large 20 plus acre park in the neighborhood. For example Coffee Park neighborhood on the bottom of the screen is an example of another master plan that was done. That is a neighborhood park very similar to to our Dutch floor neighborhood park. And so essentially it's just a graphic representation of everything we're going to talk about and include in there. The plans. The plans can include things that don't get constructed right away so they can include ideas that we you know places where we'd like to go such as Coffee Park we we had a lot of design ideas that went into into that park. We were ultimately able through funding and donations to build all of the items requested for that part. Kauana Springs you can see completed master plan up there it's not quite finished yet we are starting progress on the community garden portion of that park but we don't yet have a lot of funding. All the funding necessary to build that but we put together this plan, and we are moving forward and implementing as funding becomes available in those quadrants. Next slide. And so we do actually have an existing master plan which is really rare for a park for Dutch floor park. And here's a, here's the image of it and it is a little bit dated Dutch floor park is a little bit older. And I am really impressed with the beautiful master plan that was prepared for this park, which was a little bit unusual at the time. And the park itself is reflects exactly what's being shown here it's a beautiful park already, and we're really proud of it. Next slide. So just a little bit of history here. This park was first formed in the 80s, and it came on board as when the school came into fruition as well as the two subdivisions, and the park was dedicated to the city. It was completed in 1989. And actually at the time was named sunburst park. It was a little under three acres. And of course, for most of you know there are two children's play areas and adult fitness area and picnic areas in the park. In 1992 it was renamed to Dutch floor park after the city's longtime police chief. We are today in 2020 looking to meet with you all and we've hired plural and associates to help help walk us through the process of looking at how can we replace the play equipment to meet current codes and safety needs within the park. And the fitness equipment as well. And so one thing that's very similar at coffee park we looked at this park and noticed that the two playgrounds are very far apart from each other. So we thought that there might be an opportunity to talk about that today should we move these playgrounds closer to each other or should they stay as is. And so we wanted to talk about all that with you and hear from your, hear your ideas. And we'll get started now so I'm going to turn it over to consultants to talk about our schedule and walk us through the process of looking at options for this park. Thank you Jen. Thanks everyone for coming. So let's start off a little bit by talking about kind of overarching goals and objectives that we have for this project. I think first and foremost, we really want to create a safe, you know and build on really what's already a safe and kind of welcoming and playground. We want to improve connectivity and accessibility and therefore the usability of the playgrounds and the paths. And enhance the park's beauty. There are lots of really beautiful mature trees on the site. It's a really lovely park so making sure whatever we are doing is kind of enhancing and building on the good bones that it has. And, and as Jim mentioned, a big part of this project will be updating the two playgrounds that are ready for kind of a refresh. There's also an adult fitness area that is ready for update. And then, when we start to get into those program elements on the site, we'll find ourselves needing to upgrade some of the other park infrastructure, as we start to touch things around will be kind of required to bring things up to code, including making the paths accessible and updating drainage and irrigation and some of the site furnishings. But today I think we're really going to focus on the playgrounds and the fitness areas. And we went through a little bit about the master plan process. This is a summary. That was described earlier, just to give you a sense there are many phases in this process. After the master plan phase. There's a series of construction sets that are broken up into different phases. And they add levels of detail as you as you move along. And so this kind of gives you a broad sense of the schedule that we're thinking we can achieve. But again, as everyone knows schedules change, and this may shift over time, but this is our current thinking. So zooming in on the existing conditions. We wanted to just highlight for everyone what the park looks like today. And we'll do that in this next couple of slides. So just to situate everybody. The elementary school is up here in the top right, this pink outline represents the extents of the park. And we have extra drive on the west and Whitechap away on the south. These are some photos of the park today. This is in really pretty good condition given its age. Overall, this is that edge of where the park meets the school meets along this edge of the basketball court. So some of the existing site elements that we mentioned are ready to be updated. So you looking down towards the fitness area and one of the playgrounds in the distance. Looking down towards extra drive. And then some of there's a couple of picnic areas that are spotted around the park as well. And currently, the two playgrounds are about 150 feet apart, which is quite a distance and can be challenging if you have children, multiple children playing in the two different areas to to keep an eye on both of them. So that's something we wanted to look at as part of this project. There's also adult fitness area that I mentioned, and it's located right next to that five to 12 upper playground. And then there's a more of a top lot two to five age playground in this location. And there's a couple of picnic areas scattered around the park, and then a more centralized gathering city and space located just west of the larger playground. And just to take, take us all through an inventory of what's there now. There's four. This is the the five to 12 year old playground. And there's four swings. There's two slides a spiral slide and a tunnel slide. There's one tire swing. There's a crawling to return all a couple of platforms and an asset of monkey bars in the top lot. There's two small swings. There's a small slide that's accessed by small climbing ladder and adjacent to that is a corkscrew ladder. There's also two spring riders here in the center of the page, a couple of sand excavators here in the foreground. And then a small seesaw towards the back. And this is where the current adult fitness area is. It's a small grouping of elements that include bars, parallel bars here to the left. There's some ladders. There's a sit up bench and a pull up bar. So that's a summary of what is at the park today. Now we would like to start a portion of this meeting where we start to gather some of your input. And at this time we'd like to switch over to a new platform and to continue that to collect your input. There's a couple of ways to do that. I am going to type in the question and answer the link to get you there. You can also go to minty.com. I'm going to place it in a couple of answers. The other way that you can get there is by going to minty.com and typing in this code that you see at the top of the screen. Once you get there, let us know you're there. You can hit this heart button here in the corner arriving. If you have any trouble, please let us know. Just give some time for everyone to get to this platform. Let us know if you need help. You can click on the link in a couple of places in the question and answer location. You can also go to minty.com and type in the code above. You can do this on your phone as well. You can go to minty.com and type in that code. And if you aren't able to access this platform, you'll still have an opportunity to give us your input and vote on these things on the park website. There'll be a different survey platform that you can do that if you're not able to join us tonight on this platform. If you're having trouble getting there, please let us know. While everyone's joining, I'll just review the existing site organization because we're going to talk a little bit about that now. The first series of questions that we'll ask are about the relationship of these programs on the site and to each other. So we talked a little bit about is there more kind of relationship between the two playgrounds that are being closer could function a little bit better for families. Where might this fitness go? Is it a more centralized fitness area or is it scattered about the site? Similar to the coffee park project. So we'll be looking at a couple of options for how the site gets organized. And thank you for everyone who has joined us. You can also join us a little bit at any point through this process and minty. So we've put together three options for how we might arrange these program spaces on the site. And we'll go through each one of these in more detail, and then we'll ask you all to vote on which one you prefer. And certainly, you know, we don't expect either one of these to be the exact answer. It could be combinations of things. So we'll ask you about your feedback with that as well. So the first option is looking at, you know, as we work through all these options, something we're thinking about is how to kind of take advantage of some of the flatter areas that have already been made for the playgrounds. And then is looking at utilizing that space where the existing five to 12 playground is and keeping it there. And then moving up the smaller tot lot closer to it. They could be connected by more of a gathering space, a picnic area. This is kind of that you're like your home base when you go to the playground where you drop all your stroller and bags and everything you have. I know I have millions of stuff with my daughter. And then using the the flat ish area where the tot lot was for the fitness adult fitness area. Option B is looking at keeping the tot lot where it is currently today, but bringing the five to 12 playground closer to it and locating it right in between these two existing paths. There is a kind of gentle slope in this area, but could provide some opportunities for some fun play. Options and then adjacent to those playgrounds having the picnic spaces that could be connected or kind of separated for each one of those play spaces. And then looking at the fitness stringed along this northern edge, a little bit further away from the play spaces. And this may be more of a row there could be one to two exercise stations at each one of these dots, rather than a more kind of centralized space. And then this is option C, which is looking at bringing that tot lot up to the five to 12 playground and combining them a little bit more so less physically separated. There may not be any barrier between the two spaces but they're just kind of physically apart so that I think coffee park is a similar arrangement, so that the clear division but it's still very much the same space. And the picnic areas would, you know, find themselves around this southern edge of the place of the play grounds, and then the fitness layout, thinking of a larger circuit where you can potentially jog or walk between each station and having that kind of wrapping around the edge here in blue. So just a summary. Here's the three options that we're thinking about. On the next slide you'll be invited to vote vote on which one you prefer. And what's fun about this program is it will all get to see the results results come together so we can see what people are thinking. And again we'll ask if there's any combinations that you may see some elements you prefer of one over the other, that kind of thing. So the voting is now open. You're invited to let us know which which one you are preferring. And again if there's some elements that you like of some but don't like of others. And then talk about that in the next slide we'll ask for some more pointed feedback. There will be a 30 second voting clock. So keep an eye on that. And again, if you aren't sure and you're still thinking about it or you're not quite ready to answer there's going to be that opportunity for you to provide feedback on the on the park website. The voting is now closed. It looks like pretty strong preference for option C. So I'd really love to hear from those of you who picked option see what you like about it. And maybe those of you who didn't pick option see what you preferred in the other schemes, or if there's any other combination that you think we should go ahead and type that into into mentee, let us know your thoughts and it'll and so you know they'll come up on the screen so we'll all see them together. Great. These are great. Thank you guys keep them coming. Yeah, location of the playgrounds to the street is really important thing to be thinking about. Right. Thank you everyone. The next thing we wanted to hear from you all on is what the playground might kind of look and feel like we have this opportunity to kind of dream here in the beginning of this process. So we invite you guys to do that with us. Of course there are kind of budgetary and technical constraints to all these things but I think right now we really want to kind of open it up and bring them together a little bit. We've characterized some options and of course there are more options in this, but we really were wanting to hear from you guys with the character of this for these playgrounds should be. And so we'll look at a couple of options will go into into each one of them and more detail. And then again we'll we'll vote at the end and we'll talk about other potential options. And I should also say that none of these are kind of like absolute if there's some merging of these as well. So we can talk about that. So the first one is, we're calling natural, which is a playground that is inspired by, you know, kind of natural structures. It's using more natural materials. This would be manufactured product not kind of, you know, found wood for durability and maintenance, but something that may be kind of less prescriptive than some of the other types of playground where children are finding ways to kind of interact with it. Option B is something that may be more sculptural or could be art that you get to play on. Again, this could be an off the shelf item as in the top right that's customizable. And that's more custom, but lots of areas to kind of explore with this. Option C is an idea about the playgrounds having a theme. And since we have two playgrounds they could be different themes that could be the same theme. And what we mean by theme is that there is kind of a narrative to the overall playground. For example, this one here in the bottom right is a playground that has a dinosaur theme. These are these large eggs that have holes that kids get to kind of climb in and nestle in there. There's various other elements around it, but it's all kind of built around this idea of dinosaur land. And it doesn't have to be any of these particular themes, but just as examples. This other this option D is for something that's more modern. And what we mean by that is something that's more be cleaner lines, strong forms or shapes, the colors could be bold and or simple. Things like things like that. And then the next option is for more of the traditional towers and platforms. These are the playgrounds that where you get to pick out a series of components and you put them together. And sometimes in these the play is really prescriptive so monkey bars, you hang on them slides you slide down them. They're great because kids know how to play on them. And they're specialized and fun. So here's a summary of the, the look and feel with what the character of the playgrounds might be. And memorize this slide because the next one will ask you all to vote. And on this one, you will get an option of picking up to two of your favorites. And then the next slide will ask you about any other ideas that you didn't see here today. You're pretty close with the traditional has a lead natural is coming up close behind with sculptural and themed following closely behind. Thank you all. And then on this slide you're invited to type in any other ideas around kind of character and look and feel that you may have things you might consider or explore. Great to hear from you all. And as a reminder it will show up to everyone on the meeting. And my daughter loves the sand excavators to a full comments about the blue heron, the yellow school mascot questions about sand, lots of interest in sand every time someone types in the same words they get bigger. So there's lots of questions about sand and zip lines. We'll give it a couple more. 10 more seconds here. Great. Thank you guys, we're going to move to the next one they'll be there'll be additional opportunities for feedback coming up. You missed this one. The first thing we wanted to talk about is the components of the playground. What are people feeling like are the most important components to be at this park. So we'll go through each one of these these again these are categories. And there's, there's more than what we're showing here. But just as a starting point for us to understand, or the most important components for the playground. There's slides and gliders slides being your kind of typical slide. It will be open. It could be spiral straight slide. There's gliders and rollers which is the bottom image here on the left, which is a bunch of rolling bars that kids left to hang down it's really great for multiple ages to use their swings. There's all kinds of swings tire swings kind of standard swings. We're starting to see more now more group swings like this one here in the bottom right where multiple kids can get on it and use it and work together. Climbing climbing is a big category, but it includes net climbers actual climbing walls like you see here in the bottom image. It could include boulders climbing or just stacked element more free climbing. And then there's the logs that we saw in some of the previous images, climbing those. The next category is bars and hanging this is really all of the elements that are kind of upper body strength. So there's monkey bars, there's rings. There's this thing in the bottom right. This particular one is called a trolley track, the zip line kind of falls in that category as well. The next component is towers. This is the component that gives children that opportunity to get some kind of sense of enclosure, get some views. It also is an element that ties together other elements like slides, or things like that. The next one is sensory play. These are the things that really engage our senses. And for playgrounds a big component of that is sound. So there's various sound elements that can be incorporated as their tactile materials as well. And then the last three here. The one on the left is motion. This is a big category this includes the things that we love that move on the playgrounds like seesaws spinners. The net, these kind of net spinning elements, all those things that that move on the playground. The next category is called we call it narrative play. And this is the elements that are kind of like a scene or a set for like an acted out play or and they help kind of narrative development. So the top image here is like a cafe or a small town, so children's act out selling food or doing things like that. So it's kind of a way to bring kids together to to story tell. And the last one is we're calling it learning play. And you've seen things, these elements kind of pop up around playgrounds recently. Some of them help learn with dexterity. Some of them have matching sometimes our shapes that go into other shapes and a more thinking and hands on elements. So again, here's the summary of kind of major categories of play. And then on the next slide we will invite you all to pick your top three. And we'll talk about other things that we didn't see. But this one I'm going to give you a little bit more time, we'll do a minute. And if you're having, if you're not seeing the question. The slide that I'm talking to, you can hit refresh on your browser, sometimes that helps swings are in the lead, always really popular play elements must always fold the playground. Children at bella also love swings. Got slides and gliders and climbing and motion up there as well. And again on that next page we'll get to talk a little bit more about preferences or any other additional ideas that we haven't seen yet. Thank you. And now that opportunity to let us know if there's a component or specific component that you feel like really needs to be here. Or if there's something we missed, please let us know. And if you have specific ideas about certain components for different the different age groups. That's something you could let us know here. If you have a preference in kinds of slides, whether they're spiral or straight, or since swings are really popular if there's any preferences and types of swings, or at least how do people feel about these. These are kind of community swings where there's multiple kids required to kind of work together to swing seated zipline yeah there's a couple of seated ziplines out there discs you can kind of sit on. Those are great. Even some of the smaller kids can do those. Great we'll give this one. A few more seconds. All right, we're going to close voting now get your last thoughts in there and we'll move on to the next set of questions. Now before we go any further. We'd like to hear a little bit more about everyone who's here with us tonight. So we have four questions that we would love to get answers from you all. I'll go through them with you. The first one is where do you live in the city, and are wondering about which quadrant in particular that you live. If you're having any trouble with minty or not on the same question as us you can hit refresh on your browser. And as a reminder, there'll be another opportunity to take all these same questions on the city's website. We'll show that link at the end of the presentation. Great. Thank you all and the next question is, we'd love to hear about how you found out about this meeting to help us with with outreach going forward. There's lots from the postcard and lots from the yellow that must be the parent square. Is that the name. Great. Thank you all. The next thing we would love to hear about is how frequently you come to the park. You get a sense of the user, the usership here. Raskin do you come every day. Do you come once a week. Every month, or do you kind of never really come but you will when it's really done. A lot of days the users that's wonderful. I think the neighborhood park next to me we go almost every day. Someone in my family goes every day. A few more seconds on this one. All right, we'd also love to know how far you travel to use the park. I'm guessing that 50% of you will be in the five to 10 minute walk, given that she come daily. But maybe there's some folks out there who love it drive here. We'll give us a few more seconds. Okay, thank you everyone for giving us your feedback it was really fun to see that all live with each other. Now we're going to go back to the zoom presentation and. Just close the the mentee browser or however you were looking at that and go back to the to the zoom window. And we'll give everybody a little bit of time to do that. Thanks for switching over to mentee this. Okay, what thank you Haley just wanted to thank you very much for that. Thank you for taking us through options and what could be and and what what can happen out there to update the park and bring it up to current safety compliance. We'll get started with the community question portion of this. And we have, you know, traditional looking timers and stuff but just so you know it's just as a courtesy so that it's you can, and you can check it for yourself and see how long we're taking but I figure there's probably a lot of questions and answers out there and a lot of comments so I'm going to turn it back over to our host to facilitate the question and answer period. Yes, I've lowered all hands please raise your hand if you wish to speak. I'm joining by phone made dial star nine to raise your hand host and will then call on those who have raised their hands. The host will unmute your microphone for you to comment, and then we'll mute you once you have finished speaking. The facilitator host or co host will respond to each question or comment as is raised. You will need to raise your hand again if a follow up question is generated based on the response received. Okay, do we have any questions yet. We have two speakers to see who we've got questions from. We have two speakers. The name of the first speaker is Jenelle, and the second speaker will be Donna Jenelle. I'm giving you permission to speak, you can unmute your microphone. And can you let me know if you can see the courtesy timer. Yes, we can. Great. Your time begins now. Okay. Go ahead. Hi, my name is Mackenzie and I'm almost seven years old. But also, I go to the park a lot. And, and I'm really looking forward to have to having it rebuilt. Thank you. Thank you so much. That's a great comment. I appreciate that. The next speaker is Donna, followed by Nora. Hi, my name is Donna and my daughter went to be Ella and we live right behind to the park. And we were curious to know whether or not solar lighting could be implemented in the park for safety reasons and just to put a glow to this in the evening. That's it. Thank you for doing this. I'm glad to be here. Thanks, Donna. Appreciate that. And, you know, we'll definitely add that to our comments and take a look at that. That would be a pretty big infrastructure change. So I appreciate that comment and we'll definitely add it to the mix and take a look at that. Thank you. The next speaker is Nora, followed by so that forgive me if I said your name incorrectly. Nora, I'm giving you permission to speak. And I'm going to lower your hand and you have three minutes to make your comment. Thank you. Hi, my name is Nora. And I live by Exeter Drive. My question is when it rains, the whole park sometimes is soggy and so it's about drainage. And also, are there any policies regarding the animals because it's nice to walk the dog or cat, but we see some of the remnants of the cat poo or dog poo in the sand sandbox. So thank you. I appreciate that, Nora. Yes, we, I don't know if you want to jump in Haley, but we will be addressing the drainage. We do recognize that there is a drainage problem at the park. So when we do this lovely update, we'll have some current drainage that will help so we don't have puddling and ponding. And as far as the dogs, we do have Sydney or city ordinances that request folks have a six foot leash and clean up after their dogs. And we definitely encourage that, but we'll add that comment in and use it as part of our collection as we look at things we should be adding to this park, you know, maybe some dog park baggies. Thank you. The next breaker is followed by Valerie. I'm giving you permission to speak. Go ahead with your comment your three minutes starts now. Oh, Shala. Thank you. And I'm wondering about cameras in the park for for safety. And that would probably go along with some lighting. My kids all went to be Ella and I have a grandchild now that spends a lot of time here and he will be using the park soon as well. So I appreciate the rebuild. I do really like the excavators that are there, which does require the sand. And I know that can be a problem but hopefully that can be worked out. Thank you. Thank you, Shala. Appreciate it. Appreciate the comments and cameras are another thing that would be a very big infrastructure component. When we look at adding cameras and other, we don't have any cameras in any other park except for courthouse square. So it would be a pretty, it would be a really big undertaking, especially we do encourage. If we do have cameras, we would want it to be monitored. And so that's where the, that's where the cost of that could come into effect but we'll definitely take that into consideration as part of the comments. So thank you. The next comment comes from Valerie followed by Jean. Valerie, I'm giving you permission to speak. You may unmute your microphone and begin your comments now. Hi, this is my son Benjamin who's 11. I like to keep the sand. And I actually like the drain, like the drainage or it doesn't work because they like playing with the water and like a digging tunnels and streams with the water. And I think the poop that you, that the other lady said, I think that's actually like clay at the bottom that when you dig to the bottom like shows up. And there's like hard clay stuff. Thank you. Thank you, I really appreciate that. So I definitely heard that sand, having a sand element going forward would be really important to this to this playground area as well as maybe some, a water feature of some sort, we can we can look into that and see what is possible. It is a nice sensory play feature has sand and water together. So I appreciate that. Thank you. The next comment comes from Jean, followed by the Jean, I'm giving you permission to speak. Please unmute your microphone and begin your public comment. Okay, can you hear me now. Yeah. Thanks. Hi, my name is Jean, my wife Susan and we live behind, well, partly the park and part of the school. And so our question is more about fencing along there or is there going to be yellow going to be blocked off from the park. In other words, they're going to try to make the yellow closed from access to the park or is it going to continue to be as now where the park just kind of goes into the school. And where would the fencing go if that was, if it is going to be separated. Thanks Jean I appreciate it and one of the things we've done is reached out to the elementary school in advance to receive some feedback from them. And there, there has been some interest in looking at some sort of boundary effect that kind of is a visual letting folks know that there's a difference between the school and the, and the park. We haven't had any conversations about completely blocking but we, you know, we're, we're here to listen and we'll take your comments and we're going to listen to the yellow entry elementary team as well and and work something out on the city's part there's, and as far as I understand from bail there's no interest to completely block off the access you have now. A question will come from Steve followed by Renee. See I've given you permission to speak to go ahead with your public comment after you unmute your microphone. Hello my name is Ron say we live on white chapel court. One component that we really like about the park and that gets utilized a lot is the multiple park benches that are spaced out. It's nice to have them near the play structures but it's nice to have them scattered throughout the play area so I think that's something we like to see continue and all the shade from the trees that the that are underneath the different bench areas. Okay, thank you so much I appreciate that comment yes and we agree that the benches that are spread throughout are a really nice feature, especially with the trees so I appreciate that thank you. The next comment comes from Renee, followed by Jamal. I'm giving you permission to speak. Oh, I'm sorry, zoom is telling me that we're using an older version of zoom, we won't be able to make your comments live I'm so sorry. Can you please type it into the q amp a and I will ask it out loud and and we'll answer it. Yeah, thanks for, thanks for today for trying to reach out and and there are ways besides this to get your comments to us so yes you can type it in or we have some contact information for you as well on the parks website, and at the end of the presentation today as well so if you can't get it through tonight right during this part. We'll take a look at that after this. Thank you for your question or comment will come from now now, I've given you permission to speak, please unmute your microphone and begin your comments. Hi there, thank you. So I'm sitting here with my children and we did arrive late to the meeting and so I apologize if this was addressed in the first half hour or so of the meeting but my children were inspired by a comment made just a few minutes about water, water play. And so now they're asking about splash pads or, you know, water play features with the bucket fills at the top and when it gets full dumps over and splashes the kids down below the water jets that shoot out of the ground. It's possible to have an area in the park that incorporates that type of water play for these really hot summer days outside of you know a pool right so that's my question and I don't know the scope of the park. But that's possible that would be awesome. Thank you. I appreciate that and I appreciate you listening into the comments and you know a really big spray feature or water feature would would probably be a pretty big undertaking and have to be funded at a future date but we will definitely look at ways to incorporate water if there are in a smaller way. So what I think is important is the difference between a neighborhood park and a community park or a specialized park where we have spray grounds is spray grounds require restrooms and you know there's all this huge infrastructure that goes with them and compliance regulations and to have those in our aquatic centers or we have some around around the city but I am happy to give you some information that is coming out soon that we are changing out the waiting pool at Finley Aquatic Center which is not too far from Dutch floor and including a really lovely spray ground and so and we'll be inviting the community to participate in that process as well so hopefully we can do both for you we can get you something water related potentially at the neighborhood park and then we'll have a bigger feature for you not too far away. Thank you. This is another comment from Jean but before I give you the floor Jean I just wanted to read Renee's comment out loud since she didn't have the opportunity to speak. And she says we love the sand, and we would love to have the picnic area in the shade. Thanks Renee. The next comment comes from Jean again. Please unmute my microphone and share your comments. I'm Jean Arsenault we live behind the park and the school, and there is a memorial bench there. And will that be staying that is one of my questions and I do like the ideas about keeping a little bit of the sand, possibly and you know so I've got grandkids that play there so I also agree with some maybe safety lighting. A little bit over there although I'm hearing that that might not happen. Okay that that sounds that sounds good I appreciate that yeah we'll have to look into the lighting. We usually do you know smaller safety safety lighting something we can we can look into it but it does have a lot of infrastructure with it. And I think, yeah I think that covers your comments I'm sorry please raise your hand again if I missed something, but I just wanted to thank you. Do you want to comment on the memorial bench. That's what it was I couldn't read my own writing here. Thank you. The memorial bench can either be saved or if if for some reason we need to replace it we can save the memorial plaque and use it on a on a new bench as needed. We usually can, but usually they're attached to the bench and if that's the case here we can certainly, we can certainly do that. Are there any additional comments I don't see any more hands but happy to answer it. A question from then, then I'm giving you permission to speak. Please go ahead and make your comment after you. Hi, my name is been trans and I am the principal at the Ella, and I just wanted to share that I'm thankful for the city and the plural for just allowing my students have a voice in this project. I haven't seen it where the city does the information from students and I think you guys went above and beyond to support our students voices, especially even tonight I was so proud of my students. Speaking up in regards to their ideas for the park because there are things that as an adult we don't consider when it comes to child play. So I just want to thank you, the city for including us in this, you know, this opportunity. Thank you principal Tran and I would like to thank you as well and and a little bit of information to the community is that Principal Tran has been really welcoming and open to us, bringing our information and asking questions of the students so we really appreciate the feedback and and and working with you and your students so thank you. And we do have some of the work where we will show here at the end. Additional questions. Are there any questions from the Q&A hosts are putting that to our host to see if we can answer them now. It didn't get answered yet. Cars drive very fast on Exeter is there any chance to add a speed bump. Oh, can we work with the traffic. Yeah, we will definitely will pass that along to our traffic engineers to take a look at that so I appreciate that. I don't see any other question. Well, when will the next meeting be but we'll talk about that in the next steps. There's one more question from Janelle. Hi, sorry. Okay, so one more thing that I was thinking of with my toddler here is a toddler play area specific. And so I've seen that at other parks like Creek Park, there's an area that's completely fenced. You know, has a gate in and out of it ingress and egress, and that's super cool for parents that are trying to monitor several children at once so I'm wondering about having a toddler specific play area like there is now, but maybe with a short fence around it. So it's easier for parents to wrangle kids. Thank you. And so, Janelle, we, we definitely are including a two to five year old and a five to 12 year old playground where you, if you're still able to unmute where you're talking about. Well, I think we have 18 to 24 months I think they're Haley maybe help out here is there is something that's a little bit smaller age or younger age I'm sorry. So go ahead, Jeanine. I was just going to say, I was thinking maybe the two to five it doesn't necessarily need to be younger but it may be an 18 to 18 months to five years old. I just really like the idea at brush Creek Park it feels very safe as a parent right when I'm monitoring and I can't necessarily see both children at once in that play area but I know there's this short kind of pony fence around it so my kids can't escape right into the larger park area so when I'm monitoring just more than one child that adds an extra layer of security and it's a great idea I think so. We have this small toddler area at the park now, but it's open and you can run in all directions and also you know, not that it's a problem knock on wood but somebody could wander off with a child right if a parent is trying to enter several and a small fence might just cut down on that possibility as well so that's what I was thinking. Alright I appreciate that I don't know if Haley had anything else to add on that part. No I think there's the two to five usually does include the younger kids to the tot lots and there are there are lots of ways to provide barriers to keep them in. We'll definitely look at that. Right so I'm going to look back to our host is there any additional any additional questions or if anybody else would like to ask a question and. At this time otherwise we'll move forward. Yes, there's one more question from. I missed. Go ahead and unmute your microphone. Hi, this is Shala Chadwick again. Just a thought that I was, you know they're they're planning on building a huge facility housing facility where the water agency is on college there now. I'm supposing that most of those kids will be attending be Ella elementary. So maybe just take that into consideration that in the future there will probably be a lot more children too. So, that's all. Thank you. You know I really appreciate hearing that. That's great information. We've got a question from Patty, Patty, I'm going to give you permission to speak, please unmute your microphone and share your comment with us. Hi, thank you my daughter was wondering if there's a way to get a spinning mushroom. I appreciate that. That feedback will definitely include that and look at that as we move forward we're not quite at the decision making point for what type of spinning component but we'll include that in there so I appreciate it thank you. The next question comes from Valerie. Please unmute your microphone and share your comment with us. Valerie would you still like to speak. Sorry about that. So my family's been spending some time at the new coffee park and we've been really impressed with it we can tell that there was a lot of community input there. We've been impressed with their being activities for all ages, like the permanent ping pong tables and corn holes that are spread throughout the park and wondering if there's any thought for that sort of thing for our park. Yeah, I appreciate that Valerie I think I did see that comment come up before, and those are nice components it's, it's sometimes hard to grab a wide variety of, of youth and adults as well with, and those are two components that are really, really popular and we, we could definitely do something like that so we will include your comments as we move forward and, and see what we can come up with as we move forward so thank you. Okay, there is a comment from Jimmy. Jimmy I'm giving you permission to speak. Please unmute your microphone and share your comment with us. Hi yeah I was just looking there, there are some like sand bees or something they're like little blue bees that are hanging out in the sand, I grew up with them. I don't know if they're distinct anybody I just was hoping we could continue to keep some sort of a sand habitat for them. I don't know if they're, I don't think they're endangered or anything I just have never seen them anywhere else and they're kind of cool. So I was just kind of hoping we could keep some sort of a continued habitat or look into that as we progress. Thanks. Yeah, and I think, as part of our process earlier, sand was a big, a big desire so it looks like we'll have some sort of sand component going forward in the park and we're happy to do that yeah and that'll help that those bees and I don't know really Haley if you have any background in that but I haven't heard of that particular thing with sand definitely our water areas. So I appreciate it. Are there any other questions or comments at this point. There are no hands raised at this time. Any other comments before we close this part of the presentation. Okay. Okay. Well let's go ahead and look at some student work. From our bella elementary school. Oh, and before we do thank you. I did want to hear is the web address or essentially if you go to the city's website and look up recreation and parks. There's a park project section in there, and this information surveys so if you're talking to your fellow neighbors, or folks in the neighborhood that weren't able to attend tonight. They can certainly go and see this presentation, as well as provide us with a survey information at srcity.org park or slash forward slash park dash projects and provide that information there. So let's look at some student. Student work. And I'll do a little bit of talking but I'm going to turn it over to Haley mostly this is, this is a wonderful work from the time where we're able to meet with some students from bella elementary so I'll turn it over to Haley we can she can talk us through it. There was a school wide principal put together a school wide brainstorm with all all classes in the elementary school, which was really exciting we got to meet with them virtually and talk a little bit about the project. We talked to them about what a landscape architect is, and what the city agents do kind of talked about the whole process, and then they had about a week to come up with a drawings or text and precedent images of what they would like to see for the playgrounds. So, we had everywhere, we had children and kindergarten all the way up to six grades participating. So here's some of their work really great ideas about climbing walls and mountain tunnels swings are really popular. I would love that Jasmine was thinking about materiality. She's maybe a future designer there already thinking about what things are made of and how they go together, which I really enjoyed. Lots of other great ideas of how components work with and also thinking about look and feel and and things a lot of the things we talked about tonight. So thank you, Bella, and for working with us. Thanks Haley for walking through that and thanks again to the students. They've done a lot of hard work already and we're excited to to get started. And looking forward to our next, next time we can meet again with the, with the neighbors. So then the next thing on our schedule is we will come back to you in early spring with another meeting similar to this. And we are going to post signage at our park and at some of our other parks in this quadrant we will also be emailing the link to our principal. The other place where you can get access to the next virtual meeting is on our website as well but this is our next step. And then you can see after that we have the remainder of the steps. After we're done with the design part of it. Then we'll start on construction, which as Haley mentioned before we. This is the plan. Sometimes things change sometimes we need to take longer in the community, or sometimes they move faster than we imagined so. But this is the plan. So essentially, once we have finalized the plan you've all come up with. We're looking at construction in 2022, which seems really far away but in in the terms of design and construction is just around the corner. So let's go to the next slide and just a reminder there that here's some additional contact information so as I mentioned early on. Tim Bernard he's doing wonderful work helping us host this meeting behind the scenes is is managing this project for us and working with our consultant team. And here's his email. If you'd like to email him if you have anything else to add or any questions and his phone number as well. Of course there's that website again so that's really key everything related to this project will be on that website and continually updated anytime there's a new meeting. Anytime there's new information, the survey will be there all the information that we went over tonight will be there. And I hope that you definitely encourage your neighbors or anybody else you know that would like to participate or like to know what's going on to go to the website or contact us otherwise. And if there's any neighborhood groups or anything like that besides the elementary school that we should be reaching out to do, we would love to hear from you. And I'm going to turn it back to Haley real quick to see if there's any last words that we need to include before we conclude. Thanks for me. If you again just as a reminder there's going to be several more opportunities to provide feedback. And at that next meeting will look at some master plan options. And we'll have more to share. We're looking forward to it. Okay, well thank you so much well I just wanted to thank everybody very much for your time. I know everybody's really really busy and we can't thank you enough for participating we've heard some fantastic feedback here tonight and I feel a lot of energy towards this project so I'm really excited to see what we can all come up with and, and I'm excited to meet with you all again in late spring or in a couple months or a month or so we'll get back to you as soon as possible. So thank you and have a fantastic evening. Good night.