 Good morning guys. Thanks for taking the time out of your studies. I am sure you have been doing a lot of it, but obviously after studies there is something more important to implement all of that and that is where we are come into have a discussion and understand what exactly we are trying to do especially it was a good leeway into what the professor said into what reliance is trying to do and my myself I am Amish Lakhani. I have been at reliance for three years and prior to that I was at Texas Instruments in US for about 14-15 years. I have a master's in electrical engineering. I have an MBA in finance and all these years I have been on the technology as well as on the leading front trying to make something new out of it. Myself along with me joining is Royit Karagri. So he would introduce himself when he will get on board here. So what we are trying to do here so obviously everyone has heard about Geo. Is anyone here who has not heard about Geo? Good. Oh there are many. So Geo is reliance new venture. I am sure everyone has heard about reliance. So reliance Geo is the new telecom venture under the flagship reliance industries led by our chairman Mukesh Ambani and the charter is to basically create a new digital life for India. Whether you call it in digital India whether you call it in all the aspects basically there he wants to make sure that each and every individuals at whether it is in the rulers of India or whether in urban India needs to be connected and have a true digital life experience. To do that he has a grand vision basically we have been laying out the largest ever backbone MPLS backbone and voice over LTE distribution which is 4G rollout for the world. Just to put things in perspective we have more than two and a half kilometers K kilometers of fiber laid out. This is just a snapshot of it things are rolling as we speak. There is a lot of we have more than 200 million LTE subscribers we actually more than 500 K thousands. So there was an employee launch that happened earlier in 2015 and end of 2015 and we have more than half a million of customer base were actually on the LTE backbone on the voice over LTE networks. On an average we have been using around I would say 15 to 20 GB per month is average user consumption at an bandwidth of about 20 meg down and about 4 to 5 meg up. So this being a radical change and the coverage is phenomenal like I have taken it across India and I would say Calcutta, Bangalore, Goa like interiors of Gujarat, Bhavnagar, Punjab lot of other places in the basements and in the far end into the deserts and still we get the connectivity out. So that is the main focus. So once the connectivity is reached out what exactly is the goal? The goal is to basically try and make use of all this bandwidth right and the various ways to make use of the bandwidth is and one of the main area is basically the education, health, entertainment. You can name it and there will be various applications, various usage models where people can make anything out of the actual bandwidth. So one of the areas that we would like to concentrate on what we are here for is education. So what is the primary issue where India is having challenges and to the leeway into what the professor said earlier, you want to break the barriers of how the traditional classroom style teaching is all happening all around. You want to get into the leaf frog into the next way of how the education is going to get delivered to yourself, to your kids and so on and so forth. So one of the primary challenges that we have obviously there is shortage of teachers, quality teachers and the way the education is delivered. So we want to address some of those spaces, challenges and employability. So there is on an average any engineering graduate who tries to comes out getting into education teaching is very limited. Limited access to institutes, obviously premium institutes you are lucky enough to get into the premium institutes of India. But to expand this access is what lack of government funding and rising cost of education. You can watch for, I am sure your parents can watch for that and our outdated curriculums and lack of industry linkages. So trying to address all the spectrums is what we are all about. So our objective is to create a so-called an educational system which will revolutionize the by use of virtual classrooms where the students and the teachers will actually interact, will have completely no barriers on the walls as he was mentioning earlier. Like you want to break the walls, you want to try and have the interaction going, have the students mingle around to try and make the groups discussions more active, try to make sure the assessments and trying to make sure how people collaborate to try and get the most out of this education. That is all we are trying to achieve. So there is lot of market opportunities. You can call it with us and in house after class. You want to do it within the classroom. There are endless opportunities. There are some numbers out here. I will not go through the numbers. But primarily it is all about having connected education to make sure that we get the best out of it and to increase the longevity in a way. What will be the offering looking like? So it will have the premium contents. It will be whether and it is all going to be cloud based. Obviously you want to make it anytime, anywhere so that people can access it all the time. There will be virtual classroom, there is a remote classroom sessions where as again breaking the barriers and trying to have available quality teachers all the time. There will obviously be various assessments, skill developments happening. Assessments can also be at the individual school level, at the national level, it could be and while the assessments are gone through, you can have various analytics run on the back end to try and collect the areas of focus on where you want to be and make sure you improve and we try and make sure that you are directed and you know your areas of weakness. So that is how analytics is going to play a role and accessibility is through coverage, cloud privilege and having large-scale deployment. So one good thing at Reliance is always we dream big and we achieve it to that levels. So one of the classic examples being the Jamunag refinery by itself. Okay, so let me call upon Rohit. Morning everyone. So just following up on his question, technically we have already launched to about over 100,000 people. Now these are employees plus the families and relatives of employees because each employee has been given up to five SIM cards. Now the purpose of this launch is basically to test the field, test the waters of the real 4G business that Gio is getting into. But as Amish said, Gio and the 4G and the broadband is not the end of it all. Reliance, Gio wants to really revolutionize the way bandwidth and network is used. Of course, it's going to be really cheap just like 15, 20 years ago when the Monsoon, Hangama, Reliance communications, CDMA phones came out. This is also going to revolutionize and disrupt the market. But what are you going to do with such high bandwidth? And the chairman pretty easily found out long ago that video and heavy duty media is going to be the maximum-consumed type of resource in the net. So around this, the chairman thought, let's give a lot of apps to the users which is going to make the bandwidth utilization more effective and more productive. People will have something to do with that bandwidth. So we have apps like video on demand, we have apps like live TV on your phone. So Amish has an app, even I have an app on my phone which I can just start and watch TV live 300 channels while I'm on the go. Similarly, you can listen to music, but these are all the entertainment media. There are also two really serious top of the priority items in the chairman's mind. One is education and healthcare. These two started off as CSR initiatives, but soon it was realized that these are not just CSR, this has to be provided to the country. This population is so huge. So basically if you listen to professor's last five minutes of his talk before we stepped in, if you had heard it carefully, that is the problem we are trying to solve, which is connecting students across the country virtually to really good quality teachers. As he said, not hundreds of teachers, maybe one to good quality ones, that one teacher can actually reach out to not just maybe 200 students in this class, but thousands of thousands of students across the country. So this concept which you see here, I was just standing there and kind of visualizing this classroom, getting into a virtual classroom. So you look at these boxes, these tiles around. If you just convert them into these televisions and professor stands here and I can see a lot of empty chairs. Probably those chairs are empty because these are the number of audiences expected, but those empty chairs could be filled virtually. You could have probably connected 10 times the number or your number across the country and then explain this program to all of the students and that could have been converted into a virtual classroom. But all this is possible when you basically have really high speed connectivity. When you're transferring these huge chunks of streams of bytes across the network, heavy duty video, you need high speed connectivity. And once the 4G basically gets in and when you have average speeds of 25 to 30 Mbps on your mobile phone, it's basically a problem which is solved connectivity. What is really remaining to be solved is how do you make the platform really strong and secure and scalable and really effective and it should basically solve the purpose of delivering high quality education even by not being in an IIT Bombay. So our project basically which is called geoeducation, a very, very general term, tries to solve this problem by having two kinds of ideas or platforms combined together into one synchronous platform. One is a MOOC style platform. So if you have heard of Coursera, you know, have you probably must have taken some courses on Coursera, Udemy, Udacity, right? These are all the Microsofts of the world, proprietary closed source platforms. But then there is Open edX, then there is, you know, open source platforms. So we believe that by leveraging these open source platforms at a really great scale, massive scale backed by a very flexible scalable elastic cloud infrastructure that we have running in our data centers, we can basically solve that problem of, you know, providing this platform to masses. But that's not enough. We are not just giving a recorded offline version of a MOOC platform where people can sign up for a course and then take it up on a scheduled time. We're also combining one of the world's best video conferencing systems in this. So if Professor wants to actually schedule a live lecture, you know, on this platform, he can do so. He'll say, okay, 15th of May, I'm going to talk about XYZ and you all can register. The platform can scale, basically, to a lot, basically, to a big number. Of course, it's bound by the limitations of how we deploy the video conferencing system and how we deploy the Open edX platform. But it's really meant to scale a lot. But that's where we have, you know, those challenging problems to solve. So our technology team is kind of having a lot of work. We work almost like, I'm not going to quote in ours, but we work a lot to solve some really technical challenges. So we work across distributed computing, Android app development, iOS. We try to solve a lot of compute issues on the cloud, you know, optimizing performances of the back end systems, reverse proxying the LVs, and of course, going on to the goal of providing this finished product. So having said that, the rollout question, we're pretty much into one or two cuts of this product already into, you know, staging environments. We want to get into production by end of this year. We have done, you know, a demo and, you know, on different devices. Of course, we want to make this available on tablets, as well as mobile phones, as well as web browsers, so that anyone can just open up his mobile phone and then start learning, start learning live. This is going to open up an opportunity not to exist, not just to existing faculty, but even to potential, you know, prospective, want to be learners or want to be teachers. Like if all of you are smart students and if you want to really teach somebody, maybe your cousin or your friend, somebody, you can just schedule a live lecture on and then get into the whole ecosystem of learning. This is also going to reach a lot of different goals of the country, of digitizing the country, scaling the country quicker. You can't open up physical centers so as quickly as you can open up virtual centers. So that's pretty much what we are trying to solve. And we're looking for some bright minds, of course. We're looking for some out-of-the-box thinkers, which we're kind of always, you know, we love challenges and IIT Bombay is basically one of the most premium institutions where big challenges are taken up. Just to add on some of the main bombs is the Open edX platform that Rohit talked about. There has been a great initiative already in place with Professor Parthak and his team who have installed edX-based installation at IITB and have been using it. So one of the main areas, one of the main reasons for us to come down here is to basically try and collaborate and make it on a bigger grand scale. It's basically the corporate and actual government infrastructure. Very interesting. I think it's very good that you're working in the proper direction. Since you wanted out-of-the-box, I have never been in a box. Let me give you out-of-the-box. You're still relying on the people. I think, as I told this speaker, there won't be two things and it is not going to be the people. It won't be a student and you also have content. Content is not videos at all. First of all, you also seem to have all kinds of senior people on your streets. India needs school education because we have to wait for the future. If you make beautiful college people and the people in the school are not taught how to think properly, you are not going to get great ingredients, you are not going to get great ingredients. The way to think is in the school. And learners and friends need content. Now the second thing is you started off by saying co-intention. I have a deal with Dr. Karthik. I don't mind. There are 2,100 applications. There are so many people who have missed out. I had run that earlier. Not too successful today. I don't think I get good system in the college. Very few good colleges don't allow the students to go outside. They will give the vacation. There are so many good people out there who are not coming. They have a relationship you can do it next year. But remember there is one more thing. You have to be able to have some work which can be packaged into 6 to 8 weeks. There is no time to learn. One or two weeks of technology learning is fine. You have to be small pieces. It cannot be a big system. Big system requires something. So if you have come up with something, that's why content is very important. So are you talking about the content of this program or are you talking about content of what the product is? I am talking about what you expect the interns to build. They cannot build software. They can build content. The second thing which I wanted to point out was I saw assessments. You were not there when I told them. I belonged to IIT. I never attended a single lecture. One of the very few people. You know Salman Khan? Not the actor. We met him personally. Khan Academy. You have met him. When I joined MIT, I learned very fast that I can learn what the professor teaches in 45 minutes, sitting at home in 15 minutes. Which I learned very early before internet. He had the fortunately he had internet. I had books. Why should I study from a lecturer when the book is better? This lecture gives a live performance. The book is a package film. A lot of takes have gone before. So the content I am talking about is not the education content. What is weak in the whole world is assessment. I don't care actually. No professor should care. I am not a professor by the way. I worked in TCS for 22 years. They don't allow me to teach because I don't have PhD. I think I can teach better than most of them. By the way, that is special about IIT. He starts with this statement. I can be better than anybody else. The only person they respect is other IITs. One of the presentation earlier somebody asked me, aren't you redeveloping the wheel? I said, of course, I am redeveloping the wheel because I can do better wheel than what exists in the world. Why should I not redevelop? So basically the content I am talking about is not the delivery content. Because for example, programming. Why should I look at professor's videos? There are so many other videos generally available from MIT. I can learn programming from anybody. So what is what is going to be special about education going forward? What is special about education going forward? The assessment. How do I know whether the person knows programming? Currently, how do they test? This is a good test for programming. I am not addressed to you. I am just to risk people. Multiple choice questions. My son told me he was an IIT by the way. He told me in programming test, you start by knowing by writing everything that you know first. Create a good impression. Then you tackle if you even you do not know the algorithm, write something. By that time, no assessor can know whether you have made a mistake or not. It is not online. Since you have got so many marks, you will get marks anyway. Assessment is very weak. Assessment by multiple choice questions which is the vogue right now. Just today 98 percent passing, what kind of an exam is this in 10th and 12th? Why are you holding the exam in the first place? Just to identify one percent. 98 percent passing is criminal. The exam is horrible. It is ridiculous. Absolutely. So the trend of weak assessment is there. Now, assessments according to me have to assess the concept. It cannot be by road. I will just give a few examples since there is time. There are there is something called a mathematics museum or something. One site like that. And there they give an example of how do they teach mathematics. They said I write the equation on the board. 5 minus 3 divided by 2. That is what you will write. 5 minus 3 divided by 2. And the students are encouraged to give a story for that. That is the way to be. I have 5 marbles. I give or I have 5 pedas. I ate 3. Remaining I distributed to 2 friends. This is the story. Now everything becomes clear. So the assessment could be write a story. Are we there yet? We are not. Each and every concept you teach has to be assessed in a manner which is different from what we are doing now. So you had a section called assessment. By the way these are just the high level slides. Correct. A lot of your questions are answered in detail. There is a technical word for it. One is assessment levels. An assessment level where you ask the student to build something from what he has learned is the best. We may not reach there. But at least assess concepts. Build is what I told you. 5 minus 3 slash 2. Build a story. We may not reach there. And that is where you have to go because that solves your problem of bandwidth. The one good thing I heard from you is 4G and mobile. There is a concept called byte size knowledge. Currently we are dealing with courses. They have to be broken into pieces. The whole course you will not survive with the full course. Let me tell you. Nobody is going to use virtual classrooms to learn programming and get a degree. We are not there yet. I should be able to use your virtual classroom to learn pointers, to learn addition, to learn something. You need this byte size knowledge and the best way to do that is assessments. You need content as well. I do not think you do not need the lecture. Lecture is the least because you can learn from anywhere nowadays. That is basically for the a little bit mature people like after 12 standard or 10th onwards. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. The first, second, third graders. First, second, third is where you have to concentrate. You are going the wrong way and let me complete, sir. I am not completed. What I am saying is the first to 10th which we call K1 to 10. These are the people who cannot learn by themselves very easily. They need a bit assistant. They need somebody to give them the right direction or answer the question because they are very curious. Child is the best learner. Agreed. I am not disagreeing that. Correct. So you gave professor Fartak conducted an experiment yet distributed tablets and we were prepared to tell them how to use tablets for two hours, 15 minutes. Children take to new things very fast. Absolutely. Yes. So let them start learning the new way, you know. But the problem is, you have lot of Kindri Vidyalaya for example. Lot of. KVs, Kindri Vidyalaya schools. CBS, you know, the government backed. Correct. I know. And they are across the country. And similarly, there are many government owned schools in rural as well as urban. No. Wait, wait, wait. I will stop you at that time. Sure. Don't say there are KVs and there are many other schools. KVs are good. Many other schools are junk. I am not even comparing them actually. So don't talk. I am just saying the number of schools are so many. Number of schools are so many across the country. But the problem is when a KV, let's say in a very small town like, let's say in Lathur or Nashik or something. They have a limited set of teachers and they also want to learn the same curriculum as a Mumbai or a Pune or Delhi. But that limited set of curriculum and those limited set of teachers aren't bringing up them up to the same level as a Mumbai or Delhi KV. Probably because the teacher... But KV is addressing that problem. They are recording lectures and giving to all schools. Yes, exactly. So they are getting virtual. But recording lectures again is a problem that is not completely solved. Because that's again recorded. It doesn't give the student a chance to actually talk and ask questions. And what KVs are doing, what KVs are doing, they are calling that teacher from Mumbai. See, you want to out of the box, I will tell you out of the box. Who is the best teacher in answering questions? For a fifth standard student, the best teacher is a sixth standard kid. Correct. Not white-haired and this thing. Because he knows how to teach. He talks that language. So you need something called a mentor. You don't want a teacher. Correct. The whole teacher, if that is one of the projects which I tried earlier. Right. And I will try it sometime. This is a social kind of a teaching. I would call that a social teaching. Correct, exactly. I will take up three points from the discussion that we have been having. Number one, we need to concentrate on the schooling in the K-12 section. So that we want to have the better engineers in future. Really cool. Yeah. Well, K-4 is easy to bear. Agree, really. Okay. As a swimmer, as a swimmer. So you can just imagine how difficult this problem is to be solved in the country. No, forget how difficult the problem is. And not technologically. It is impossible for people to realize that it is a problem. Exactly. Because people like you come and say, you have to start at the top. These people don't need any aid. They are already educated. They go to Korsera. They go to Uda city. Exactly. They will use your technology. That's a bandwidth. Okay. So let the world handle the only 14 percent of our students go beyond 12. Okay. These are those 14 percent. The 86 percent was spoiled for life. Because of this, and I will tell you, kids will take to technology much faster than these. And once you start a first year old, get him addicted to machines, machine learning. He will know you don't, doesn't need any teacher. Internet is there somewhere. Once you give him your reliance with a 4G, he will learn. You said learning, human being, child is the weakest animal in the world. He learns how to open his eyes. He learns to do pattern recognition of a very high level. Okay. In first five years, building the cells and next three years using them. Okay. So the learning happens in the childhood. Okay. Yeah. And you start that self-learning. You were not there earlier. That inquisitive attitude. I think we kill children. Okay. The childish inquisitiveness, childish curiosity is killed. That's why I said, fortunately, I was, my parents taught me to ask questions. Okay. I did not go to school for three years. Third year I joined school. I was, I removed myself from three schools in first standard. Because I was told not to obey teachers. One school I went for three days. Both my parents were teachers for three years. They could manage that. We are just killing the children. I am very curious. They want to learn. Even a dumb child wants, learns his mother tongue. Nobody teaches him. Automatically. Don't talk about children not learning. Allow them to learn. Make access open. Don't, don't ram knowledge into the head. Make, give them, you know, full store full of toys. They will pick up toys and play. Certainly. Out of the box. So, just again tapping on to what you are saying as such, right? When you say that we want to learn, right? You've got to have a platform available for them to learn, right? It is not just keeping a kid into a area and having him build him by himself, right? You will need to, so the second point that, one was start early in your, in your life, basically whether it is K4 or K12, whatever you want to classify it, start early. Don't start at graduation. The second point I thought from your discussion is collaborate, okay? Don't rely on one person to do all your teaching, which is whether he is your teacher, whether he is your parent, or whether he is your colleague at work, okay? Don't rely on one person to do any of your learning experience. Collaborate and get the most out of it, whether it is a pointer knowledge that you want to try and learn. You learn what your colleague learned in while making the group discussions out of it by making, mingling around the students, by making it fun. Basically try and make it, collaboration is the second point. And the third point is content is moved, basically. Content is not the physical or the physical videos or anything of that sort. It's actually live information. The information that you are actually doing on the, on the goal, that is what is more important, rather than doing it in a pre-recorded, in a classroom environment or anything of that sort. One of the other points that we brought out that it has to be packet sized and one, two weeks of learning and four weeks or six weeks of learning, right? So on the same point, we have actually listed out projects on the same way. We didn't even bring up. And we wanted to actually concentrate on the projects on what, and it's a specific input, transfer function, specific output, right? So based on the specific output, the output is decided within six to eight weeks. These are the items that will be required for people to, of any of the sorts, to bring out the information, okay? And use it out. And we are already in conjunction with the professor, to have this collaboration going on. It becomes next year. Yeah, no, no worries. It's not today or tomorrow or anything of that sort. It's just the thing is we wanted to have this platform. What we are doing, bring up the discussion forum and try and understand. One or two points that has come out more vocally and clear is concerted more on assessments, which probably has not been understood in any of our previous researches or anything of that sort. We will have to have a more look into it. You are talking to teachers. Everybody wants to say, my muck on this thing and I will teach best. It's fine, I have no problem, but there are so many. Anyways, thanks for the time here. Thank you guys.