 we could talk a little bit about it well to the ego opening is equated with vulnerability opening is equated with loss opening is equated with rejection and and with all of our attempts at love relationships whether it's with parents or siblings or partners or whoever there's a strong association in the deceived mind or the sleeping mind with this sense of opening and pain like opening has brought pain and those are strongly associated so the Holy Spirit is now going to use relationships to re-associate in the mind opening with joy or opening with a feeling of connection and love where we're being called upon it seems like a risk where it seems like a huge leap of faith to the ego the ego is like I don't buy it it's not buying it at all like you're just gonna get more of the same old same old and it's gonna be painful you know like sometimes people will say well it's okay to be happy I've heard that for years people would say to me it's okay to be happy but just don't get too happy and I say why is there something I should know about that sounds pretty good to me well don't be too happy because you're in for a fall it's more that dualistic view of opposites like oh happy happiness is just the opposite of sadness and if you get too happy you'll be out of balance you'll just like you'll be completely out of balance and I never to get the balance word either balance between what you know it's like but when you're believing a world of opposites then that's the thing that was the thing that was referred to last night where Lisa got had her own metaphysical chapel in Pennsylvania and then with her own metaphysical chapel to be to lead it and her own course of miracles group her course miracles group warned her one day one morning don't get too joyful but you start getting that from your course group that's that's pretty you know you're ready to pop the cork on something and so she called me on the phone and she was like David I gotta ask you an email I gotta ask you is it is it possible that you could be too joyful no that's that's impossible you joy is your inheritance whoever's telling you that is not talking the truth cuz they told her to tone it down and she was just getting more and more in the metaphysical chapel she got the memo tone your joy down it's it's it's frightening people how how enjoy frightened people now that's really from a course group to how can you get too joyful you know when you get into the state of happiness and joy it will come through in appropriate ways you know as you move seem to move through time and space because that's just the way the spirit is the spirit doesn't thrust anything on anybody but but as you're going into it you know you should never put like a limit on your happiness and joy because it's unbound so to get back to the theme you were bringing up it's it's again that's where it seems to take faith because we've had so many memories and so many associations of opening up and pain and hurt I mean think about there was even songs what was that song was it John Cougar melon camp love hurts hurts so good sometimes love don't feel like it's hurt so good no you and when you first listen to you start then you'd like you start to get to a point of metaphysical advancement development you're like that is sick but but when you're going through it and it does hurt then you know you have those associations that's why you know you it's part of the catharsis it's part of the healing it's part of the release so all we're saying is just trust it in your in your expression sessions you'll be with the same groups you know every day and little by little it's like when you're just coming out of a shell and you try it out these I'll try it out on day one I'll try it out on day two you start to build more and more confidence with it like this is safe psychotherapy we all know that you have there has to be trust in a psychotherapeutic relationship for there to be healing and that's why it just it has to be allowed to flower to grow to strengthen you know for the there to be that confidence you know to open up and no one will open up if they don't have a sense of trust and safety so it's just a little bit at a time you'll know by the experience