 That would be cool. I would like I would be very pleased if if we were brought into some awards thing together as yeah As a couple of time that's he all the better. I like going there. So that'd be good gosh darn it though people like That would be fun that would make it worth it. I Don't love those kinds of awards II things neither. I find them embarrassing and I don't want to say tedious because that's insulting that people put them on but You know, sometimes they're just overdone But if I were able to go and accept an award alongside you that'd be great I'd be awful. That's my entire thing with this because otherwise I don't really care But I did but that would be fun if that happens and it's an Anaheim you say This year I don't know where was last year last year. I'll move around Well, if it's in the LA area if that were to happen if it was in the LA area Yeah, you should come hang out with Ray the dog. I would like to meet Ray personally. Yeah Or sensitive Sensitive dog and Kylo Ren aka so you're the dog. I Don't know that Kylo is Ray's brother But then so you're still actually Ray the dog's brother either It's all yet to be determined. All right. I Heard yesterday we're talking on TMS about how Kylo Ren jumped something like 900 spots in most popular baby names of 2016 Kylo Rended Yeah, so people are calling their kids Kylo middle name Ren last name And it was still like way down the list like Kylo is the first name Ren the middle name. Yeah, but it's still like like 2000th on the list or something. Yeah, okay But it's enough people listened to Carboni Pushed the name on Jeff Kanata and we have concerns that it pushed it up the list a little Yeah, didn't work on Jeff, but no, but it worked on a plenty of listeners Yep Yeah, see that's a thing though. I'm not sure if I were to have another kid. I would name a child after Hmm, I think like cuz that would automatically date their time in place sort of like Oh, Kylo is not bad because you can call them Kyle and then nobody really it doesn't know Why would you call them Kylo that it's fun because it'd be like on the birth certificate their actual name is Kylo And then rend is a middle name. I mean middle names never get used so except to embarrass people during graduation ceremonies. Yeah, those are the best So that's not a bad one Kylo rat, no, it's all right, okay I mean, it's like Luke where you can kind of get away with it. Yeah, Roger Your your name is from from a film star. Yes, but it's old German. I think for speeder I Roger Corman got it. All right, Roger Corman. He's schlocky movie maker, but did some interesting movies He did battle beyond the stars. I like that one What are the Rogers? There's Roger Stavak. Yeah, the Dallas Roger rabbit Roger Hey, see that's that that's the old one. I always got that all the time I'm clever From Pink Floyd. Yeah. Yeah, it can be 130 p.m. Yep, Roger doll Roger Moore the oldest I'm about to do the show now because it's 130 I'll need you have control control. Yeah All right, I'm gonna disappear. I take it Wasn't a hit it was a direct statement. All right. Here we go Uh Wait, is that right? Oh, yeah, that's right. Here we go Daily tech news show is powered by you Well, maybe not you but you right there find out more daily tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech IO report for Wednesday, May 17 2017 I'm Tom marriage Scott Johnson and I have been Sifting through the mountain of announcements from Google IO where the IO stands for interminable oration on time. I just watched the longest episode of HBO Silicon Valley Yeah, and I wasn't sure I wasn't sure what the plot was supposed to be actually other than okay No, and all kidding aside Google's IO developer conference happened only a two-hour keynote Which I say only because in the past they have had three-hour keynotes so good for them kept it to two hours and It was Paced man. They they just moved. I give them credit for that. I was never bored Yeah, they kept out. They put a lot into a tight two hours So this isn't a two hours. We're like, oh two hours. I shouldn't have taken them that long And I know could have gone three. This had no padding. This had no air to breathe This was just bam bam bam in out boom boom The the theme the general theme was AI. In fact at the end of it They they emphasized they've gone from mobile first to AI first and they definitely delivered on that talking about machine learning and AI in almost every product that they talked about if I didn't get bored at any point It was during the YouTube announcement, which I didn't think was was that compelling But a lot of other good stuff we're gonna talk about Google Photos We're gonna talk about Google Home Google Assistant all that good stuff few tidbits about Android Oh, but let's start off with a few other tech things you should know Qualcomm has filed a complaint against Foxconn Pegatron Wistron and Kompol electronics pretend you haven't already read this story Scott What do those four companies have in common? Well, three of them have on in their name true. Oh Outside of that they make stuff for Apple. Yeah, they're all four companies who have contracts with Apple Apple is suing Qualcomm's launch the lawsuit in January Claiming that Qualcomm overcharges for its royalties that they're not using fair and reasonable terms for patents Qualcomm saying that Apple's trying to undercharge them and devalue their patents and they've actually filed some counter complaints And now they're going after the contractors Apple has instructed their contractors not to pay Qualcomm and agreed to indemnify those manufacturers for any damages they would incur because of that and Yep, despite all of that manufacturing continues until they get this all worked out. Oh, yeah No, and Qualcomm wants that they don't want them to stop making the stuff Because they want those royalties that they think they're gonna get but they have They have soon to stop import of iPhones into the US as a piece of leverage to have if they get that complaint Which is seems crazy on the face of it, but man imagine if they pulled that off that would be That would be something let's talk about another Tron Whistron has begun assembling iPhone se's in India with the first phone shipping to Indian customers Sometime this month now Apple needs to source a certain percentage of products from inside India in order to get a license to operate Apple retail stores there talked about this before I guess is a big step in doing that and I don't know what that percentage is though well, it's 30% and This is this goes a long way towards that also iPhone se's the more less expensive version of the iPhone And they are competing against a lot of low-priced Android handsets dominated by Chinese manufacturers as well as Indian manufacturers on on the subcontinent so This is Apple's move to not only get an established retail presence in one of the largest markets in the world but also Potentially compete on price although I don't think Apple's ever really going to compete on price These things are still not going to be as cheap as other phones Even my markets like that and one of the thing I would say I think the 30% is just kind of funny because that's the big You know take that Apple has on their bike coincidence At its financial analyst a AMD announced a graphics card based on its next generation architecture the Radeon Vega Frontier Edition comes with a Coonskin cap. No, it doesn't the Vega card will come with 4096 stream processors though 16 gigabytes of high bandwidth memory on a wide 2048-bit memory bus card supports up to 8k displays with AMD claiming up to 12.5 teraflops of single precision processing power This is targeted towards machine learning and photo rendering applications This is this is for business uses and expected to release in June AMD also confirmed It'll release a consumer CPU with 16 cores supporting 32 threads codename Fred Ripper CPU is scheduled for release in the summer along with the x99 high-end desktop platform So you try to come with the power here that is so much more exciting than i7 and All those stupid bridge names red ripper. Yeah, Intel needs to take a note here and like have some cool names for once I think thread ripper is awesome. What a cool name. It's a wrestling name. Yeah red ripper Totally is or late night infomercial for something that helps you with your clothes Anyway, it's good to see AMD sneaking into the higher-end stuff a little bit more certainly Nvidia has a real dominance there And I think some good competition in that side of things would be good Amazon refreshed its line of fire tablets everybody So get on this news the fire seven is now thinner and weighs less with improved contrast and still sells for just 50 bucks Fire HD 8 received a $10 price cut both ship in June There's also a kids edition of the fire HD 8 now that includes parental controls a to you worry free guarantee and a protective cover in multiple colors for 130 and Voice Amazon sir, excuse me Amazon voice services coming to all tablets all in the UK as well Boy, everybody's on the run to get this get their their voice assisted stuff everywhere all places at once Amazon's tablet strategy is very interesting. They don't do 4k They they barely do HD they Did they don't do regular like high-end refreshes? Or or even like form factor changes and they sell very well for Amazon relatively speaking. Yeah, I think it's I mean as a parent I can tell you that when Christmas rolls around and you're thinking maybe a tablet for the kids It is very tempting to say well, what's going on over here with the fire tablets Why are they so cheap and you read those specs and they're not Knocking your socks off, but they're certainly capable of doing most of what you need that tablet for yeah And 50 bucks at the low end is just hard to deny and it's and it's Amazon It's not like you're buying something you don't trust or that you haven't heard of before And that's that's a price for something that normally you've never heard of before some kind of weird time When he's rip off of something and that's not what this is So I think that they have banked on that and then that's where they're making their money And I think that's where they'll continue to do it I think they wanted to do that high-end thing and take iPads and nexus is head-on and it didn't happen And and they're filling a niche really well, especially these kids additions. I know 130 dollars sounds Expensive in relation to the other fire tablets But if you're buying a tablet for your child having a two-year Guarantee that says we don't care how why it broke Send it back and we're also going to give you a protective cover. I mean that that's well worth it for a lot of parents Also interesting that the time has gone on. I've seen where Amazon is actually gaining their power It was never through innovating with a product Although you could argue that the echo is innovative in lots of ways and the original kindle too Yeah, sure in the Kindle and many things but Way of they're doing it now in other very busy crowded markets Is they're leveraging their ability to be this incredible sales force this like crazy A company that can manage products and logistics around the world in a way that nobody else can just that due to sheer volume And I think this works across the board from prime video all the way down to a $50 tablet and I think it's working for them It's it's like this one advantage that Google Apple and really nobody else has is this big stronghold sort of retail Walmart-ish sort of coverage of everything. It's pretty it's pretty crazy Logistics is kind of what they're doing with shipping what they did with data Yeah, where where they they needed data to do the Amazon bookstore in the 90s and then they developed Amazon web services Which has become a dominant business for them and they're they're attempting to do the same thing in in shipping Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines You can get it in the anchor app the anchor apps are all fun Jeff cannot have some stuff newest latest best remember that it's there in anchor right alongside daily tech headlines And you can focus on just the things you want to listen to you can make calls into the show in it Try it out anchor FM or you can also get daily tech headlines as a flash briefing on your Amazon Echo and as a podcast Anywhere you can subscribe to a podcast at daily tech headlines.com All right, man. We it's gonna it's not gonna be two hours But we got a lot to get through from Google I. Oh starting with Google photos That seems to be one of the more popular announcement. They've made Google photos Sort of the only viable photo organization software out there a lot of people like it a lot and the new I'm gonna I'm gonna run through the new features real quick and then we'll give our impressions of them Suggested sharing so it'll suggest photos to send to people You may not think that sounds like a big deal But if you've ever said oh, I keep meaning to send those pictures from mom's birthday or from from from ants My aunt and uncle's anniversary party This will suggest that to you. So you don't forget. There's a sharing tab That will keep notifications about those suggestions Even if you're sending it to somebody who doesn't have the Google photos app It'll send them an SMS or an email with a link to the album and of course prompt them if they want to download the app itself You can add your own photos to albums that you receive somebody sends you a link You can add your own photos like oh, I have some pictures from that event too. There's something called shared libraries Where you can agree with someone else one other person. They're thinking usually a spouse To automatically share with people you want you can either say I want to share everything or share everything for a certain date Or share photos that include certain things and this is where the AI comes in It's got all kinds of machine vision so it can say oh when you see my kids in a photo Automatically share that with my spouse all photos of kids can show up in both parents libraries All of this come into photo in the coming weeks Available today in the US on the web Android and iOS next week and then there's photo books Which will use some machine learning to search for the photos. Let's say you're like give me Pictures of Scott it'll pick out pictures of Scott and say these are the 40 best photos right here You want to make a book out of that $10 for soft cover $20 for hard cover? There's also Google lens in Google photos that can do things like identify paintings do optical character recognition Tag phone numbers and make calls right out of photos that you see in Google photos Yeah, it's all pretty impressive The only thing Google photos is missing is a really strong really viable and really popular social network I wish Google plus was bigger and more spread outside of my tech friends and things like that because tying this into something as big as Say Facebook would be the perfect combination You're not only organizing your photos But you're doing them in such smart ways and then sharing them in such smart ways that you're just missing the outlet part there's no public facing part of this that is Truly as ubiquitous as you want it to be and maybe they think this will help get it there They talk so little about Google plus that I don't think that that's probably true But that's the one interesting piece of this puzzle missing outside of that though. I'm using it all the time I love it. I think it's great But I'm using it more as a personal management piece rather than a public facing thing like flicker use it's not supposed to be It is personal management thing and that and all of these new features point to that like sharing with friends and family Privately not not posting it on the internet. They're like Facebook's got that covered Instagram's got that covered We're not going to try to compete in that space right now. Yeah, it's probably good that they're doing that But also people maybe a little bit worried about how well this is going to work This entire conference seem to be focused on we are now getting to a place where it will effectively pick your best 40 photos And it will know who you want to share things with because you've done it before The machine learning was all over this Google photos announcement stuff and I'll be honest I don't think I'm going to make use of any of these new features But I got me to open up Google photos and resync and say you know what I really should be using this to manage my photos Yeah, because Facebook has moments and and that's actually pretty good for sharing on the go Like if you're on a trip with people and they're all on Facebook moments But this is this again. This isn't about the public sharing This is about the private sharing and this this seems to work pretty well, too and cross-platform Yeah, Google lens I mentioned that real quickly. That's vision-based computing capability. It's not just in Google photos It's also in Google Assistant and so all of those things that I was mentioning in Google photos It can do in Google Assistant so you can point it at something to go What is that and Google Assistant will tell you? Oh, that's a daisy Or you can grab a username or password from a router, you know those routers that have you know The hard-coded SSID and password printed on a UPC code on the bottom You can point Google Assistant and say can you just enter that in my Wi-Fi for me done doesn't store it We hope that would be bad necessary and except storing it in your settings Saves and organizes things that detects they they showed Pointing it at a marquee and doing some cool stuff like being able to tell when the date of something was and add it to your calendar They also did smart reply for Gmail users as well Just yeah tag that in there So the only small thing I'd say about this is this is reminds me of the convenience that came with When your phone could suddenly scan barcodes for food tracking or something that was a revelation I don't have to count these calories. I have to look it up and find out what they are I go blip bam. It's in the database. It's all done. This is another extension of that. I love it Oh, I will use that on yeah, I love that Google Assistant scenario of I I see a sign I mean and this is good demo and I don't know how often I'll use it in practice But I see a sign up on the marquee that says, you know, Jonathan Colton May 15th, and I could say ah Take that take the information off that sign put it in my calendar and it can do that. Yeah I'm very convenient. You can also now type to Google Assistant on the phone. Oh my god This was made for me I never liked talking to assistants and I always want to type to them and you almost never can you can type to Cortana It's one of the things I like about it and and now you can type to Google Assistant. So yay. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's good I want to be able to I want to fall back of being able to type to these things I do not want a future where the only way in is talking to it Also Google Assistant coming to iPhone it is now available on iPhone it'll work with other Google apps It won't necessarily, you know, you can't change the default you can't change Siri to Google Assistant Lots of products are gonna come with a Google Assistant built-in badge So, you know, which ones will work in that same ecosystem. They're adding tons of languages There's something called actions on Google platform Coming to Android and iOS already on home This allows developers to create things that work across the assistant platform They can pick up where they left off across devices. It supports transactions so you can you can do sales you could do payments and They showed off one payment System where they ordered something from Panera. You didn't have to create an account with Panera You didn't have to install a Panera app You just use Google Assistant to order and they say any smartphone developer can make a Google action now It's it's essentially Google Homes or Google Assistant's version of skills. Yeah, I I think it's awesome And also the idea that they have gone I mean, I said this at the top of the conference and again at the bottom of the conference I said, I hope we continue to see a very multi-platform focused Google I owe today and at the end of this thing I came away thinking man despite the fact that they talked a Lot about Android and they talk a lot about their own services They are a company that is interested not in platform so much as they are Services on those platforms and as an iOS user I always really appreciate that so the fact that I can use this thing today on my iPhone Makes me very excited. I really do wish I could switch it with Siri I'm you know, I hate saying that I wish Apple had a better plan with Siri Maybe they do we still know it yet But we're back to that whole thing again where this just seems like you know a better choice right now I'm gonna have to start using that more Let's talk about Google Home the Amazon Echo competitor It'll be coming this summer to Canada Australia France Germany and Japan So good news for folks in those countries who wanted a Google home It'll be able to now schedule meetings set reminders Add your calendar to your daily briefing of news They broke it down Google Homes new features into four categories proactive assistance So it'll turn on a light and start flashing to get your attention and then tell you like hey Traffic's building up and you need to get you know to the airport in 15 minutes You need to leave now or tell you you have a flight delay and you don't have to leave now Hands-free calling so right on the heels of Amazon adding this they're adding hands-free calling But on the Google home any landline in the US or Canada can be called for free It recognizes your voice and uses your context list. So if you say call dad, it'll know which like oh Tom speaking call dad And it has the option to link your own mobile number to the assistant It'll use a real phone number, but it's a private number Or you can link it to your mobile number if you have an Android phone That's coming over the next few months in the US also getting a Spotify free tier on Google home sound cloud Deezer ability to play Bluetooth for many source for audio HBO now Hulu can play to Chromecast you can tell the Google home play that episode of Silicon Valley On my TV and if you have a Chromecast, it'll do that and also through Chromecast. It'll do visual responses So if you ask for a route on the map and say put it on my TV it'll show you the route on TV that works for Android or iOS and YouTube has an interface on Chromecast now as you can say show me what's on YouTube and it'll take your account put it up Show you some options. You'll say oh play that Morningstream video and it'll play that video for you. So do you after watching this? I kind of came away from this thinking I'm a guy who's got a brand new Echo device on its way. So do you we pre-ordered that thing and when that thing arrives I'm pretty excited about to get the screen all these new ideas I'm excited about what Amazon's doing with Echo, but I came away from this going Maybe I want to get a Google home And I didn't expect to have that happen to me because I'm kind of getting what I want out of a voice assistant Out of what I get with the Echo, but all this talk has me wondering if If this isn't I mean I guess when they first announced this thing I thought it looked like an air freshener and I also wondered if they were really gonna throw their guts behind it Or if this was just a well We need to have something in this space because we're Google now I'm starting to think they're really serious about it and I'm starting to wonder if I've got you know one of those in my future Well, the call it on the heels of Amazon adding calling the calling to landlines is huge, right? Amazon's like oh anybody with the app and Google's like anybody with a phone in the US anyway The other one is that visual responses. That's kind of nifty. So yeah for the first time I'm looking at Google home going That might be worth having that's that's got some interesting stuff and if you live your calendar in the Google Universe if you've got your email in the Google universe like all of these things if you live in their universe Then it starts to really make sense. Yeah, and then part of it was me realizing how much I do I really do live in the Google universe. I run it and run their universe mainly in iOS and max funny enough But I'm still in it and this better speaks to that maybe than the echo Although the echo speaks to a lot of it too There's there's you know all sorts of skills for the echo that that kind of handle even some of that same universe But you got to think you're gonna get a better catered experience. I don't know this just feels like a Potential crossroads for personal system buying and when people make their decision this year if they're paying attention to What Google's talking about this could be a big whoop Virtual reality and augmented reality got its own section a lot of hardware announcements in here standalone daydream Headsets are coming. They announced that LG's next flagship phone will support daydream, but they say they want to create Designed headsets that are better for VR because they they help with the immersion when you don't have that phone Screen they can do some better stuff Qualcomm's already made a reference design They're working with HTC and Lenovo on models to come out later this year and on the augmented reality side the second Project Tango phone is coming out the ASUS Zen phone AR will go on sale this summer They're working with Google Maps for precise location info indoors and they introduced a mapping system that they call VPS for visual positioning service, but essentially it's indoor mapping So they have to have mapped the space but they used a big box hardware store They use Lowe's as an example to say if you walk into one of the stores and you're like Where are the three-quarter inch valves for a toilet in this huge place it can identify Pete places in the store and then put a map on the screen for you to follow right to that place So so kind of nifty, but lots of hardware here. Yeah, also put that on your head And you won't look weird at all. Here's here's the other thing that jumped out at me Coming up at E3 star breeze is going to finally show off this VR helmet They've been working on for a while and it senses from the inside out Which is opposite of vibe and oculus which senses from these towers or points of reference that you put into a room When they talked about this having sensors on the device to do world sense tracking to track the world around them and model it and map it That's huge and I think that's the future of this stuff. So in practice we'll see but that got me super stoked We also haven't even gotten to Android yet and granted this is not the big Android announcement We didn't get to find out what oh stands for yet But they talked a lot about All the different platforms that Android is on Android things for Internet of Things launching later this year They they claim 10 times user growth for Android Auto They claimed a million Android TV device activations every two months. So that's 500,000 a month Android oh will release later this summer and they broke it up into two Groups of features that they talked about fluid experiences were things that make it easier to use so picture-in-picture So you can keep watching Netflix while you're looking at your calendar stuff like that Notification dots will show up on icons and then you can long press on that icon to see notification Autofill coming to apps You can auto fill in Chrome obviously right but you can now auto fill when you're logging into Twitter and it knows Oh, you always log in with that username will suggest that for you That's opt-in by the way and smart text selection So some using some on-device machine learning it never leaves the machines not going into Google's cloud to keep track of what things you select and Guess ah well, that's an address So when he taps on that we're gonna select the entire address and they can even do things like Select maps like oh we think that's an address and suggest Would you like to watch Google Maps to look at that? Yeah, it feels like refinement time. I mean that's kind of where we're at with Ios as well. It's not a nobody's nobody's announcing or talking about features for phones that feel Revolutionary anymore. These are definitely evolutions though. Yeah, and on the vitals side, which is the other group of features They launched something called Google play protect Which is a dashboard to show you all of the security features that already exist really But it's just a new way to see what's going on as they scan apps and look in the Google Play Store and find apps That aren't good and remove them some OS optimizations They say boot time will be twice as fast and oh they're limiting background locations background execution some developer tools to identify drain and crashes and slowness so that should help better have better designed apps and Developers very excited about Kotlin now being officially supported in Android that's a programming language and Google partnering with JetBrains to create a foundation for Kotlin the first beta release a preview of oh Happening today at Android comm slash beta. Are there 50 billion apps to scan a day? Are there that many? Oh, sure Why not in that seems insane? They must be multiple times the same app. It's got to be yeah inversions and things like that and you know installations sure Also, they announced Android go which is their internal name for an optimized version of Android to run on Lower-end hardware specifically Tardy targeted at developing countries They say they have more Android users in India than they have in the US So they need to optimize a version that works for Indian customers So they've got Android go optimized for entry-level devices with a gig of memory or less a system UI and kernel will use less memory on down to 512 megabytes if necessary a Settings area to let people top up their carrier data right from the phone without having to go out to an app or a website apps that are optimized So the chrome data saver that that tries to save data very much like the opera browser YouTube go which will do a preview GIF now So that you can see what the video is about before you decide to stream it And of course it still has the bandwidth settings And the ability to save videos for offline bringing more languages to the G board So you can even type Character Roman characters and turn them into Hindi They showed that in a demonstration and the Play Store will feature optimized apps So apps that are lower in size have better magic memory and battery performance And they've got a program called building for billions to encourage developers to optimize their app This will be a version of Android O Android OS O and every Android from now on will have a go configuration If they confirm the O stands for food yet some kind of tasty treat I mean all of them do they have not confirmed what the O will stand for guys So we're sure they're not breaking from tradition or we don't know we don't know what they're doing. We don't know We don't know what yeah That's about it lots of other AI stuff They mounts 10 they announced TensorFlow light which is an open source version of TensorFlow to help add machine learning to your apps They announced the a their AI first data centers with tensor processing units or TPUs Optimized for a machine learning training and inference 180 trillion floating point operations per second coming to Google Compute Engine today. They've got a new Center on the web for all of their AI development Google dot AI That's broke down into research tools and applied AI Auto ML or machine learning uses neural nets to build neural nets and they made an inception joke when they announced it They say they want it to be possible for hundreds of thousands of developers to use machine learning and they Claimed to be providing tools for people to do what they do better using it to improve diagnostic software They showed off DNA sequencing be improved by machine learning Predict properties for new molecules auto draw comm which we've talked about that'll suggest better drawings than you drew When you sketch on it and of course adding it to Google search and Google assistant Also, they claim tensor flow is now the most popular machine learning repository on github And they're giving 180 petaflops of cloud Tensor flow resources to academics and researchers for free. Well, well, that seems like a pretty good deal By the way, I know we didn't do it But there should be a default statement about Skynet when think when people say things like use neural nets to build neural nets neural nets Yeah Google for jobs is going to be showing up in Google search in the coming weeks in the US and other countries later If you're searching for a job, it'll help you narrow down job listings They say FedEx Johnson and Johnson and others are using Google's cloud job stuff to help suggest jobs LinkedIn monster Facebook glass door and more will work with it It's kind of think about when you search for airplanes airplane rides when you search for travel now You get those little filter boxes. You'll be able to do that with jobs on Google and finally YouTube YouTube 360 videos will work on televisions now In YouTube apps, so if you've got a YouTube app on your smart TV or Apple TV That'll work. You use the remote to pan around in it. You don't have to pick up your TV and move it around Super chat now has an API so that can trigger real-life actions They use the example of having people buy a super chat The member super chat is the thing you pay for your chat to come up to the top Like you can have people buy a super chat to turn the lights off on you. I guess that would be fun for a while I'll be honest the YouTube the YouTube announcements have me a little worried about YouTube I'm like, this is the best you got but it is Google I O so maybe they didn't come with their best stuff Yeah, probably not by the way, I get a little hung up on Google for jobs Which sounds it's it's just funny optics if you think of the name Steve Jobs and it just kind of threw me off Google for jobs No, man jobs meant employment long before Steve Jobs. No, I know I know he That's just the guy's name but for whatever reason it jumped out and you have to turn every story into an apple story somehow Just good Yes, Google for jobs though. That's I mean basically they're saying We want to steal the interface now for travel and for job seeking Yeah, it's interesting because those other companies linked in monster facebook and the like if they They almost kind of just have to get on board with that, right? This is I mean, you can't they all tried to do it on their own Let's just say say monster.com some oldest one. I can think of they're supposed to be the end all be all place to go Right now google's like, no, there's a higher level than that Well, and it's an airline Really shaves its profit margins close and they really want you to buy the ticket directly from them if they can at all do it So having google in the way Is both a blessing and a curse, right? Google getting you to come to the website is great Google has the travel interface that leads people to not buy your ticket because yours is a little more expensive Not so great. Whereas the job the job listing places. They're like, hey, man You know, if more people see the job listing and they click through the monster.com Well, then monster.com is fine at that. I guess that's a good point. It's kind of like the shopping thing I don't know. It's just that slope could be a little slippery. That's all you got to be careful Hey, thanks. Everybody participates in our sub reddit. Uh, obviously today was google i o But we love seeing the interesting stories out there that you guys suggest to help us kind of get out of The treadmill of stories you can submit them and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit.com And we truly appreciate it. We did it man. We made it through all the google i o announcements Yeah, i'm shocked. Actually, uh, that went pretty well and also, um, I don't know. I just today we felt really energetic on google's part There's they're all over the place and they have a lot of stuff to talk about but um, I don't know It feels like things are going okay for them generally speaking And we talked a little bit on tms about the the verge op-ed piece saying google needs to be boring I I think they were boring in the right way today, right? They didn't come up with any flashy new products You know, they had a couple hardware announcements here and there But they were very reliable and stable today and and very smart in emphasizing machine learning and artificial intelligence In ways that Some some of which need to be proven still but they all made sense of me I totally agree and they sandwiched it with some levity had that funny little animation at the beginning To sort of show off the logo and it all kind of you know Was all about ideas and stuff and the end was a couple of djs up there spinning the hits Or whatever they were doing and you know some jaunty logo work and things So it wasn't completely void of of color and fun. It just I I agree that they need to kind of stick to what they know best And make and remind us that they are the most reliable Actor in the game because if we don't feel that way they're in trouble They control we don't want our data with them otherwise Yeah, we need to we need to trust them implicitly all the time And so the more they do that the better I feel and I felt really good today Well scott johnson, I feel real good about all the things you do. Where can people find more of you? Well, you mentioned anchor earlier and I also do an anchor thing every day You can find two minute segments all four of them actually all day about video games entirely Is what my focus says it's called the daily blip which you can find at anchor dot fm slash daily blip Or get it on the anchor app I really like doing it and I think people will enjoy it If you don't have access to that or looking for it in some podcasty way I also compile those on wednesdays and put them on the boop show feed at frogpants.com slash boop My regular video game podcast So there's a way to get me in two different ways lots of video game talk right now Especially as we get into the e3 Area which comes up very soon a couple of weeks is all so do check that out again. That's anchor dot fm slash daily blip Don't forget folks. We are entirely funded by you. 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It makes me warms my heart. No google i o news and history has been presented better I don't know if it's true, but I like that you wrote really nice. Yeah Because man, this is it these kinds of things are harder than our normal show Uh, because you have to pay attention to something for two hours Which means you can't sit there and research it and write it up you It's Kind of annoying. Well, not only that but a lot of these things are going to flesh out in the coming days and you're gonna Yeah, it's like, oh, we got to focus on this because this blew up or whatever and you just don't know what those are yet You know how you get through them Threadripper, dude. Well roger I can't hear you No I don't hear you either, buddy Oh Google hangouts Hey, that's the other thing I think they've made me annoyed with the youtube section is they made a big deal about live and then Didn't talk about improving their live streaming What does the o stand for what does the o stand for the o stands for? Oh, that was a lot of announcements D tier daily tech i o report stand by yourself google vr is coming google for jobs or google jobs I owe phone. I can't not hear steve jobs because you put that I know I now you it's like the arrow on the fedx truck We're screwed Yeah Sorry All right, uh thread ripper is awesome thread the ripper you thread the rip you ought to not be in pictures so much Facebook has its moments google hugs this even tighter google assistant typing for type b folks Let's see qualcomm hates on apple makers Yeah, so many things popping up fire the chrome cast of tablets Google assistant saw the sign A lot of google google skills can pay your bills Skills pay your bills skills though. It's it's google actions Amazon skills can pay your bills Tom called jiff Show gift jiff. I have equal opportunity. I alternate Speculation has its rewards I don't know only two hours i o phone home Nobody know was what google was All right, i'm gonna say like uh D tier daily tech i o report But that's me All right, i'm leaning toward that I haven't personally No google i o news history has been presented better. Actually I do like android. Oh go and i o. Oh my that's pretty good Yeah, but we've done something like that with the you know lines tigers bears. Oh my yeah, that's true Before not to not to pick on your selection can Your legs are it? Yeah, there's just stiff I'd like I like that. What does o stand for is winning? We won't answer that question though is the problem There's a lot today It needs to be something google i o related as good as some of these non google ones are Um, it will not be google shows everyone. It's o face tv z gone nice though Not be that Like I said as good as some of them are We know it's tempting Well, should we go with See it's weird to have d tns d t i r daily tech i o report All right, so then uh, just go with me up on that one Do you have a second choice? um Wait, did you oh never mind What was that what was that quote you said earlier the i o stands for what you said interminable oration Someone did suggest suggest that we should put that in google google google inter interminable Flash oration. Yeah I mean, it's I don't know if that sounds negative or not, but I thought that but It's fine all right Oh man, stop voting for it right when i'm trying to copy and paste it Or maybe or maybe I could freeze while reading Uh, which is what i'm supposed to do. That's why that button exists the exact features purpose. Yeah, I know I was not being a good user Tom errant and scott johnson not patrick beija Patrick beija What if he took his name to heart and just had like an entire wardrobe that was beige? It's not the same spelling though. I know doesn't matter Biocauls yelling rtfm at me in the chat room That's fair totally fair Well, I think we're we're i o'd out Are you guys reading political news? No, whenever anyone goes silent anymore. That's what I assume. I'm doing paste bin stuff. So sorry. No, I'm I'm gonna I'll fess up. I was I was reading. See I knew what it must have been somebody somebody Fundraising text that freaked me out and I got a little wrapped up in that for a second Yeah, I get fundraising email put down your phones and enjoy the virtual Phone call with me that's going on. Yes. I can't really criticize. Can I? Can you imagine telling someone back in the late 1800s? There's going to be a telegraph that works where you can speak with audio and pictures At the same time you mean like that Edison fellow Remember that guy I was thinking about this like you could start to explain to kids today like the internet used to be printed out And delivered to you or a store or a library and you'd have to go pick up webpages in person Yep, it'd be like trying to describe the internet in its earliest days to old people. It's just the opposite When you wanted to Skype someone you had to go to the wall and use a specific device Yeah, you used to have to say it's a folder on your desktop This folder on your desktop all text messages were written down and given to a person to hand deliver So I have a friend and it's a mutual friend of tom's and one of her children watched one of the old van halen videos where he's around the swimming pool and he's being lavished by like Attractive women like that are servants one of them brings him like a phone like on a little silver platter Right. She was saying like her daughter's like, what is that? Like why why is this person? What is that object that they're bringing toward van? Okay cell phones used to have to be plugged into the wall Or at best could only be used near your house According to that's the thing that it doesn't really look like a cell phone in the way we Like if the only phone you ever saw was like either a smart phone or maybe a flip phone My my register is a cell phone. Maybe yeah, maybe because it would kind of sort of Look like a bit not to be that guy, but that was a That was diamond dave solo version of I wish they could all be california girls Aha Sorry, sorry Is that in fact being healing ranger? Wait a minute. Did you did you watch almost famous? No, I've never seen almost famous you need to watch that movie because if you're if you're gonna be a stickler about stuff Like that you need to watch it move. I've seen every Camera crow movie ever made except for almost famous and I don't know why So it's on me. I gotta do it. Maybe almost famous Used to be separate from phones. That's a good one Ken Wait why Cameras didn't even have screens You had to wait tell what you were actually taking a picture of well, you could you just didn't know what the actual resulting You had a little my daughter. She just won a contest for actual film photography Contest third and this big instagram contest anyway Uh-huh. It was a film camera to do it. There's no screen. There's no preview And I said to her I go your generation has this in a this amazing world you're in everything's got a screen It's all previewable Filters happen on the fly photoshop happens on the back end. You can do so much I said, why would you do this? And she says because it's the coolest thing Yeah, the norm is boring. It's this ancient way of doing it That's really compelling her and she wants to at some point get a dark room so she can do some old school film stuff Like when we use quill pens Yeah, yeah, we actually had to pull them off the bird first Come here No, I'm saying when we use quill pens we're doing it just because it's cool Not because we yeah, but then you would have to have your own little bird branch or something No, you could just buy them No, if you're gonna go that far And raise the freaking birds. Yeah Don't raise your own birds There's nothing more small batch I'm telling scott's scott's daughter like did you use a tin type and you're doing it wrong Tin type was one of the many available Technique technologies of That photographers could use back. I mean carter who's my other daughter. She's got her phone or she's got an slr that we gave her a few years ago and she's Uses a way com and she has everything she needs for this sort of thing And she says to me the other day dad should I buy new polaroid film Or expired polaroid film because it's about 10 bucks cheaper to buy the expired stuff But it might be yellow on the way out and stuff and I said why are we even talking about this? We worked so hard to get past that little blip in history and move on to a much better thing And I remember when people hated polaroids other than the fact they were instant Like a picture the picture quality Was okay and they got yellow fast compared to like your standard like photomat You know produced or developed pictures And like, you know, it's it seems so weird that people are such a nostalgic painting for like really crappy pictures Yeah, I don't Wish and I had ink pens and brushes here anymore. I'm really glad I'm drawing digitally. I save paper It's not a mess. It's you know, I don't Over it's the best. I used to have like an old nike on um You know film slr and it was all right, but I really really took to digital slr because Suddenly you could actually take photos without worrying about running one running out of film But to not having to go through that entire process of developing everything. Yeah, it's such a pain in the ass Yeah, it's like having a It's the equivalent of getting like a four terabyte drive in a time where you don't ever you're never gonna hit that cap You will one day, but it's that feeling of unlimited Like oh, it's like let me try this if it doesn't work out. Whatever. I'll delete it Yeah, and it's like you see 10 photos in a row while you're at the shoot You just delete them there if you hate them. I mean sure there's a certain there's a certain uh Sensibility about you know Conserving the number of shots you have for something you really need to take a photo of But it's you know with film like, you know, well, I don't have high speed film I got a swap to my other you know, this is back when photo journalists used to Walk around with two to three different cameras Yeah, because they would have different focal length lenses, but they would also have different speed filming it depending on Okay, I'm gonna be shooting in the dark, you know, uh reddit area. I'm gonna shoot here Or no, it's gonna be out in the bright sunlight. I can use this, you know It's like all these things you're describing sounds like a giant pain in the air. It is My daughter my daughter here she if she heard what you just said she'd get all stoked about trying that out And you know what it's because it's not a life I wouldn't say life and death issue, but if you're making a living on it You'll do it, but you kind of like man, there has to be a better way to do this. Yeah Well, because you know, I mean we've all we've all done retro things that from before we were born, right? Like tried out something like oh, that's a that's an interesting old way to do it And I I can't think of a good example right now, but I've definitely had my grandparents tell me like Why are you doing it that way? It's so much easier now. Why would you bother? right I remember going to uh A museum and they had an old toaster from From the colonial from colonial america, you know back in the colonial period of the us And it was just basically an iron contraption that would hold your piece of bread And you would stick it in a fireplace it would have a little rod so you could turn The piece of bread around to the other side when one side was done toasting That's like really? That's such a pain in the ass if you just wanted like, you know toast and butter to the morning Try that as you stick a bagel in it, but it was just like it looked like a file folder holder It was just two, you know two metal things that hold that stuck up and you put the slice of bread in it You just toast it I'm uh Very sorry and proud to announce the damn fine podcast past film sack in the itunes rankings dammit I mean, whoo I think I think it might have sunk back down underneath it, but ron ron sent me a screenshot He sent it just to say like hey look we actually you know showed up in the The top whatever and the first thing I noticed was the one right below us in the rankings was film sack So I was like who would be films that that the film category TV and film. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't looked in here in so long I mean where we're at You're probably back in front of us now. It was probably a momentary. Let's see I've been in here in so long Oh my Well, listen friends leave to email me. So I don't know what they're doing right now It's uh, it's a good time to be alive Seriously, I know you probably don't think so, but it really is uh, so hang in there. We'll see you tomorrow with Justin Robby Young. Have a great day