 Yeah, I have to say I'm a little bit more hardcore archaeologist, not so much conceptual, so this is will be some kind of I will try to show what we're working in OSCEC, because actually what we are doing is really our hardcore archaeology and excavations, but we have these some kind of problems that can relate to the papers before me. So OSCEC is situated in the eastern part of Croatia, it's a well less known equation, basically everybody knows our country from this coastal part, which is known for the towns that have basically continuity from antiquities, originally from Split, so you have the occlusion palettes, you have the palaces from the early medieval periods, from the Renaissance period, from basically all phases of the development of the town but in this inner part, in the in the Panunian part of the Croatia, we have quite the opposite and there we have the discontinuity, and that I will show you on the example of OSCEC. This is one problem, the second problem is that I really want to relate to what you said in the introduction, while on the coast we have this huge influx of tourists, especially, well Dubrovnik is now quite a phenomena because of the grain of thrones and everything, but now also my hometown of Split and the RBMB plague basically made all people move out from the city center and it literally became one huge hotel complex and so the problem with the archaeology is that the archaeologist now actually perceived as something that has to be in service of the tourism and of the tourists and on the opposite, in the continental part, you don't have tourists, you have, well, nothing, actually this is the, this is the, we have this huge problem, while you have the increase of the inhabitants in the coastal parts, at least in this summer season, where you have where you have basically 50 or 60,000 people coming to the town. Example of OSCEC and the other parts, but this has also happened in Hungary, over the region, you have basically the huge immigration, especially when you became the part of the European Union, 20% of the inhabitants of OSCEC immigrated to the western parts, so while on the coast we have the pressure on the real estate and on the buildings and the developments in this inner cities, especially in this venue part, we have basically decrease of the population and of course this is not the problem of archaeology because how can you explain to generate population and to the municipality why they should spend so much money on such expensive thing as it is archaeology and because of the archaeological projects are really considerably well, they cost, so what we are actually trying to do through this project that I'm in charge of is to present them why archaeology could be important and that not just because of the tourism and the thing is OSCEC is a very good example, so actually we have four cities, as Italo Calvino said, invisible cities like Bud and in the example of OSCEC, this is really true, basically OSCEC had this, shall we say normal evolution, first it was Roman colony, then on the outskirts of the Roman colony a small medieval settlement was well grew and then it became small medieval town, then when Ottomans came and then it became the part of the Ottoman Empire and then transformed this small medieval town into a quite a large regionals urban center with at least dozens of mosques and a huge bazaar which was the basically the commercial center of this part of the Ottoman Empire, but then Austrian scale and quite surprisingly they decided to build on the place of the Ottoman town a huge baroque fort which is now some kind of now symbol project, but actually that meant that they eradicated everything what preceded this Austrian well shall we say occupation or at least push to the to this part of the of the of the Pannonian plain, so this mean this meant that everything from medieval Ottoman era was basically eradicated from the memory and from the landscape as itself, so what we actually wanted to do is to present now what you can see no signal, you have this in the center project you have this baroque fort and then you have that we call it the cannon zone that was impossible to to build and then on the outskirts of that upstream and downstream of the river Drava they built a civil settlement which are basically now the centers of this new town. To distinct archaeological sites we are now a registered one in pink is the part of the former Roman colony and the yellow one is this medieval and Ottoman part of the town of the site, so first this some kind of well I have to say that also it has this rich history of the archaeology but 99% of it is rescue archaeology so everything what was excavated and well research was destroyed in the modern development nothing can be seen actually although you have this huge archaeological well heritage first there was this example of the of the Ottoman archaeology in the 80s they try they excavated the largest mosque of the of the town there was this small turba but also there is the part of the mosque but as you can see it was like they wanted to present it as a kind of outline it on the pavement as you can see but now today a large part of it it's basically a parking lot so now if somebody really is don't know that that the mosque was there it can be seen so this was obviously something that was not well so good example what to do in the future so when I started to be involved in this project in 2012 we tried to do it in the other part in the part this is now the cluster of the Franciscan ministry we knew that there on the that there was a mosque but also this mosque was basically transformed church from the medieval period so our idea was to excavate a part of this this of the of the town where you can see these layers of first Gothic church and of later mosque but as you can see Franciscan when they built this new church on top of it they really made a really good effort to eradicate mosque so we couldn't find even the even the basis of mosque everything was destroyed only this remains was this Gothic church and this is what we actually on the end we tried to present it and now if they see well this is at least from the drone you can see it but again we have other problem that also I can relate to this public and private space the problem is that it is now part of the of the monastery amongst we are not really inclined to show to let public in to see these remains so again it is invisible to general public although we did excavate it well we tried then to go to this other part this is the city gates first of the both medieval and Ottoman town but unfortunately what we learned well now was that both medieval people from the medieval period and Ottomans basically had well first a lot of it was made of wood and of earth we didn't find city gates but we did find some examples of the of the Turkish presence there but it was unfortunately something that was not presentable as the archaeology so when we saw that this is something that is going in the wrong way we shifted to the to the Roman town and this is well something that was really good for me because I'm a Roman archaeologist and I was really happy about it because Mursa is well in this part of the empire rather well known town because it was founded by the Hadrian and along with Iacapotelina which is today Jerusalem it is the last last example of the veteran colony which was built ex nihilo so so after this period after 133 all new colonies were basically transformed from the existing towns only the Jerusalem and Ossiacoa examples where you had completely new built town and this is something a good story that we could of course with all this and it worked the second thing is that it was built on the limous and now we have this huge project which trying to enlist limous at least this venue part of the limous into the UNESCO heritage list so Mursa should be part of it because limous literally went through the town and all the town was built on the limous road but what we really wanted to show both to the public and to the municipality is that the biggest well importance of the town is the town's outline itself because it is the last example of this Roman urbanism which is in whole integral in its way so what we wanted to go is to go first throughout the town where we know that the colony was to find the the remains of it I should say again there is not a single wall or stone that you can see today everything is covered by the modern town and the baroque part of the settlement luckily we had this this geographical map of this of the fort you can see the fort which this part this time eradicated the the the medieval town and the Ottoman town which existed here but luckily on this part of of the on the area military surveyors actually mapped quite in detail the outlines of the Roman city walls and some well some buildings within it the constructions the second story that and this was the first guide where to go because today this is everything is covered by the town now the thing the second problem with what we saw with the roman time is that actually the roman remains were used for development also in the 18th and 19th century basically they tore down everything in this in this time in the in the second part of the 18th century you could still see the city walls which were five or six meters above the ground but then in the later centuries they were used as a material for the building or for at least for the leveling the surrounding area so again it there were but with geophysics with some as I said previous uh at excavations which we had data in the archive we could reconstruct the positions of the main roads of the city walls and of the ditches and what we really wanted to do now is to choose the part of the towns where this where they could be excavated and not destroyed by the modern development this is the this outline as we know it today now the second part the third reason why this project was actually started was this area here and this is the western suburbia the western part west of the city walls which is which was for the well for the past 200 years the military the barracks first of the austrian and then of the yugoslav and then the creation army and the good thing is was that the large part of this area was undeveloped just part of it and in the 20 years ago they were given to the university of halsey so they could build their campus and that's where the story begins and uh and the big problem because uh we knew that there was roman town beneath it and that rex excavation has to be done but what would really shock that nobody really wanted to acknowledge this so we knew that there was i will show you this maybe this is the better better example of it so this is the excavated area they re-excavated around 40 40 000 square meters and it is one of the largest examples of the excavated suburbia in the roman empire at least in the european part and um but and what what could be what was could be done was that this roman road that was went through into the roman colony could be used as some kind of the payment of all parts of where you could walk to it and organize the future campus around it what they would literally was done everything was built across it destroying it and without any any possibility to to uh show it in the form of the open area presentations i have five minutes more comment five minutes okay so what what actually what we saw that of all these four hectares of the uh excavated area everything what you can see is this here is basically the this basement presentation of 500 square meters and this is what was really a problem what we really wanted to do this is the present situation we are currently excavating here in this part we are trying to force them because green areas will be future buildings and what you can see here are the well the build roman buildings that are excavated and presently being conserved what we're trying to force them in some way to change their plans to build it in a way so this can be recognized the blue lines are the is the roman street and this and this are of course the roman buildings but unfortunately i don't think that we will manage to do it the only way is to is to do is to go to the green areas to the city parks and to do work in it what we really done and we were really really we had really fortunate that we found uh kardus uh kardomaximos so this is something that can be preserved this is the this is what we are planning to do and we are trying to work out with the municipality to to not just to fund us it's impossible but at least to give us support into trying to find funds but it is something that's really hot going it's going hard this is the present situation and we are going to the world next month in the first way to conserve to conserve it but um it's it's really hard to do it because this is the third example of the again of the not successful successful presentation and this is the eastern part of the of the town where we excavated and found the eastern suburbia with the suburban villas but again there was really not any way of the way to present it because the investor which is local municipality simply did didn't want to acknowledge it today this is the present situation the suburban villas are here the idea was that we should excavate and then in this kind of casetas to present what we really found but what we really saw that we can't do it the way the architects wanted to do it so what we wanted to plan in the future is to excavate this yellow line which is the city eastern city waters in a way to present it and to try to invoke it into into local urban landscape the problem is and I will conclude is that um when you have the not just municipality but the general public which really keen into eradicating everything what was before them and where you don't have the possibility to see them why it's really important to show material evidence that there was people who lived on the same area before them then you have a little bit problem and the archaeology actually is now shown to me I wasn't aware before it that the archaeology is basically the only tool to force people to to show them that the things were different that they could be different and well many especially politicians don't like that and well I will conclude with that