 Good evening everyone. Hope you all are doing well. Hope you're being blessed today. Hope you all are in your best behavior. I hope you all are doing fine. I said good evening. I should have said good morning and good afternoon, obviously depending upon where you are. I want to go ahead and cover this now. You all have heard me say it. And of course, if you ever just type in my name, or if you type in the channel, you get a lot of different hits. You get a lot of different things that'll pop up. I think at, I probably ought to go ahead and count it. I'm not sure, but I know last week, I think there were probably about 50 or more videos about me. Most of them are negative. There are some good ones. There were some that were decent, that were charitable to me. Some that were nice, which I appreciate those. But then there are also those that are negative that call me out. Some are not necessarily calling me out. They're just adding a correction. I disagree with Corey on this point. I disagree with that. Which those are fine. As a matter of fact, truth be told, you are allowed to disagree with me however you want to. You are allowed to say whatever you want, that no problem whatsoever. As I said before, I'm not going to really get bent out of shape. And most of the time, again, if there's over 50 videos about me, you all haven't seen me do response videos for the most part about other people. But if a person wants to come on and say, hey, I disagree, oftentimes they may do it and when we're having Q and A's and I may bring them on and just answer the question. But there are times where I'll bring them on. And I said I'm going to pull back a little bit because I don't want to have too many, I don't want a clown show. I don't want to be some kind of back and forth where nobody but the devil gets any victory out of that. And so when I saw this particular one, I don't even know how it came across. It just, YouTube puts stuff on your homepage. And so I just happened to see and I clicked on it, huh? It was about two hours long. And so you all don't, you may or may not know this person. His name is D.A. Williams. I've got a YouTube channel. And his assessment of me is that I am a wolf. He may be right, he may be wrong. He may be extremely wrong or extremely right. I don't know, but I wanted to give him an opportunity because one, when I made the statement that I'm not going to do this anymore, I'd already reached out to him and just put it on, hey, listen, if you want to talk about it, if you want to warn the people around me, why they shouldn't, then be my guess. But his tone is a little bit different than others. And so I thought, you know what? Yeah, why not? Let's see how this goes. We had talked before and so before we get going, let's just have this guys, since there's going to be two people coming at a position, two opposing positions and he can hear. So we'll just go ahead and just open up in a quick word of prayer. Obviously we all should be in prayer, but I want to do this before everyone else just to remind us who we serve. And so Father God, I just thank you, Father, for this opportunity, this time to where two men who may disagree, maybe we don't disagree can come together and discuss these things even before the people. Because if nothing else, Lord, even if we don't come to any sort of conclusion, some sort of resolution or agreement, at least we can see how Godly men, if we both say we are Godly, how Godly men ought to handle themselves, comport themselves when handling the gospel, Father. So I thank you, Father, for this opportunity and I praise your wonderful and magnificent name, Father. I pray this in Jesus' name, amen. And so that being said, I do want to kind of play him in his words. It's not a whole lot. You may or may not get his point. I think towards the end of this little clip, you might and so, but I'll have him come on and give more of a detail of where he's coming from. And so this might, this may or may not be a fair assessment, but we shall see. And I've heard people, yeah, Corey, teach against laying on of hands. Said there's nothing to it. It's a biblical practice, but he's teaching there's nothing to it. Cause in the Greek, he's a wolf in sheep clothing. So let me ask you this question real quick. Who are you going to believe? Are you going to believe the scripture or are you going to believe a wolf? Are you going to believe the scripture? Are you going to believe some theologian who may or may not understand and accept the authority of the written word of God? What we are dealing with today with wolves like Corey and others, what we are dealing with, with all of these so-called intellectual individuals, we're dealing with the same exact thing that Paul warned about in his day, which caused the church back then to slide into apostasy. Here's the reason that I say certain people are wolves, more specifically, Corey Minor, the smart Christian. Anyone that undermines the authority of the scripture, anyone who presents, there may be some error in your Bible. Now I'm not talking about, please hear me, I'm not talking about what some people define as biblical inerrancy. That's not what I'm talking about. That's not what I'm talking about. But I'm talking about the consistency and the accuracy of the information that's presented to us in the scripture, illuminated by the Holy Spirit. And anyone who denies that or attempts to undermine that in the life of the community of faith is a wolf. So now obviously I can't do justice to everything and his whole point, I think I sort of have an understanding, I think about where he's going, what he's thinking, but I need to let him say it in his own words. And so that being said, I'm gonna bring on guys, his name is Daryl. DA, if you wanna call him Daryl Arnez, brother, how you doing today? I'm doing good, how you doing, Corey? I'm pretty good, I'm pretty good. It is, I don't know if y'all can hear that, it is raining pretty good here. So thankfully we did get the new roof put on, so I should stay dry. But anyway, that being said, I wanna go ahead and give you the floor. Guys, here's the thing. He is either incorrect or he is correct. And so I wanna hear his points. I want you guys to hear his points. And if there's something I need to also repent for and say, you know what, I probably ought to say these things differently within so many, I'm not above that happening, but I wanna give him the floor. So brother, DA, go ahead and the floor is yours. Okay, well, first of all, I wanna say to you, Corey, thanks for giving me the opportunity to come on your platform and to express my position about the things that I said. And I do wanna mention at the top of the conversation to your followers, I'm not here to prosecute, prosecute to litigate. I'm not here to do any of that. What my position is, like most of you all would believe, all scripture is given by inspiration of God. It's profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction and righteousness, so that the man or the woman of God can be perfectly furnished onto all good works. My position in dealing with any teacher of scripture, any minister of the gospel is not who I define as a wolf. What we're looking at is wolf behavior, which is clearly defined in scripture. So in the amount of time that Corey has specified that we're gonna have a conversation, there's no way in the world that I can articulate all of the positions that I hold and how I have arrived. What I will attempt to do is to at least present the framework of what my conversation is regarding those issues. There's no better place to start than the book of Jude, where we are encouraged, we are admonished in scripture to earnestly contend for the faith, which was once delivered unto the saints. Okay. I'm gonna avoid commenting on some of the chats that I see, but I would just encourage you all as children of God to hear the conversation out before making judgments. So having said that, I'll leave the comments alone. Amen. Jude tells us that we are to earnestly contend for the faith, which was once and for all delivered to the saints. The only way we can earnestly contend for the faith that was once delivered to the saints is we have to know what that faith was. One of the tragedies that has happened within the body of Christ over thousands of years is there has been just a mass of different opinion. There has been a mass exodus away from the apostolic witness, that would be the gospel that the apostles presented. What has happened as a result of that, much of what we have received as Christianity is far removed from the apostolic witness or New Testament Christianity. This becomes the entire framework of the conversation. Another scripture that I wanna mention would be in the book of Acts. And I think this is critical to our discussion. Paul had traveled to Militis. This is pretty close toward the end of Paul's apostolic ministry. And the scripture says, he called for the elders of the church and he admonished them. He said, listen, he said, I want to encourage you all on something. And in verse 28, he says this, take heed therefore unto yourselves and to all the flock over the witch the Holy Ghost has made you overseers to feed the church of God, which he has purchased with his own blood. For I know this, after my departing, grevious wolves will enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves, men will arise speaking perverse things to draw away the disciples after them. This apostasy took place very early in church history. So many times when we think about wolves or we think about people stepping away from the faith, which is actually what apostasy is. We tend to believe that this is something that we were admonished in the scripture that was gonna take place 2000 years down the road. So we think about a great falling away. You all are all familiar with that term. And okay, so we're all familiar with that term. The apostasy that Paul mentioned actually took place after the original apostles passed off the scene. So we had individuals coming into the church who are referred to as the church fathers. So I know many of you all are familiar with a lot of these individuals. Most of them were involved in what has come to be known as apologetics. Most of them were nothing more than Greek philosophers who were attempting to integrate Greek philosophy or Greek philosophical thought with the tenants that were preached by the apostles. This is exactly what Paul was warned about and Jude exhorted the church to earnestly contend for the original faith. That is what led the church into the dark ages. This same behavior is taking place within Christianity today. Hence why I made the statement regarding Cory. Many of the approaches and the methodology when it comes to understanding scripture, when it comes to understanding the faith, it's the same approach that has kept the church in bondage for thousands of years. So we have a Christianity today that is far removed from the faith that was actually delivered to the saints. Most of it is built on the premise of Greek philosophy. So I will stop there because I'm sure that Cory will pull more out and if anybody has any questions I'll be more than happy to address them. But my premise about wolves goes back to the original apostasy that took place within the faith which left a lot of teaching and understanding of scripture that we parrot today. This is what we know as the faith. So the church is powerless. The church is ineffective. The church has lost its witness. And then once someone says something about it then all of a sudden we're looked at as being suspect as opposed to people actually hearing out what we're actually saying. So hopefully we can do a little bit of that tonight. Okay, so I got, well, I have a couple of questions. Let me just ask this question. I've heard you say a couple of times and so I just wanna make sure that I'm getting you correct. I've got a few more questions but when you bring up Greek philosophy and so forth are you saying that that's what I'm bringing in, Greek philosophy? I'm saying the methodology. What I mean by the methodology. If a presentation is being given that has an over-reliance on understanding the original languages, okay? What we end up doing is we're trying to view a book that is primarily Hebraic from a Greek mindset that's based off of Greek language and Greek philosophy is what I'm saying. Well, wait a minute, wait a minute. So you're saying, okay, now I know obviously the Old Testament written in Hebrew. There's a smattering of Aramaic in some of the prophets with Daniel specifically. Right, Daniel in some of the Old Testament. It was, except for a few phrase that Jesus made, it's written entirely in Greek. And so I guess what I'm saying is similar to how we in America speak English, doesn't make us English men or derived ourselves our beliefs from English culture, the same way that people in Mexico speak Spanish, they're not Spaniards, they're not Spanish people. So when I say, when I look at the Greek, how is that in any way reliant on or falling back on Greek philosophy? The emphasis on Greek that I'm speaking, well, let me back up and address something else first. Okay. Those language that was spoken by the apostles and the early church was Greek. They were not Greek, they were Hebrew, meaning their understanding of God, their worldview, their understanding of redemption, their understanding of salvation was not built around Greek thought, such as Plato, Aristotle, a lot of these individuals. They were Hebraic, we would say Jewish. And they had a totally different orientation regarding the world, regarding their understanding of God. So because they spoke Greek language because of Hellenistic culture, that has nothing to do with their worldview. Where the Greek philosophy enters in is once we move into the middle of the first century, the beginning of the second century, and we start dealing with Athanasius and Arrhenius and Tertullian and a lot of these individuals, they brought in their Greek philosophy to try to understand the emphasis of scripture and you can't do it, which is why many times, let me finish this statement, then I'll be done. Many times when people begin to discuss what we call theology, it's more philosophy than it actually is theology. This is why we use a lot of the terms that we do, the hypostatic union, and a lot of the other terms that we use, it's all based, not in the scripture. It's not based in the writing of the prophets or the apostles. This stuff is based in Greco-Roman Hellenistic culture. Okay, but can you give me an example of where I brought in Greek philosophy in going through the scriptures? I could give numerous examples. Okay, give me one too. The one that I will approach, the one that I will approach and actually address is when it comes to the idea of just the Greek in general, so in other words, this is what I see being done. I see an intellectual approach of analyzing scripture based on language. That within itself is a Greek approach to understanding life. This is what the Greeks did. It's an overreliance on the human intellect. Now you try to couch it in the Greek language, but the approach is the same. Okay, so the approach is the same. All I'm doing is because the scriptures were given to us in Greek and so since sometimes English is hard to reconcile where we may have a difference of opinion about what a word means, then all I've got is if I can use the Greek then I'll use the Greek, but what about using Hebrew? I also go through the Hebrew as well. I'll bring, as a matter of fact, in the Bible study we're in Genesis and so there's a reliant there on Hebrew and not the Greek. And so do you think that I also bring in Jewish culture or Hebrew culture as well when I'm going through the Hebrew words or is it just the Greek? I've never heard it. Okay. I'm going to be honest. The only times I've ever seen is all been Greek. So I can't speak to anything that's done that I haven't seen. I use Greek and I make the statement in the video that I did. I believe that being able to look up Greek tenses, the Greek language, the Hebrew has value my point is you don't have to know this in order to understand scripture. Do you think I'll say that? When the scriptures were translated, I'm sorry, go ahead. Do you think I've said that that you have to know Greek or Hebrew to know the Bible? In so many words, yes. Let me clarify. Okay. In order to actually understand what the scriptures are saying, the Greek is presented almost to the extent to where people could get the impression. I'm not saying they do. So this could be a misstatement on my part, all right? But it could give the opinion. It could give the idea that people can't read the English scripture like the English scriptures are deficit. You've got to go back to the Greek and it can cause question in the mind of people as to whether or not scripture is actually authoritative. The individuals that translated into Latin, into German, into English, into Spanish, they were all Greek scholars. The emphasis of the Reformation was to put the scriptures in the hands of the everyday person so that they could read the scripture in their own language, primarily because the church of Rome had the scriptures locked up in Latin. So the same thing happens and it's a very slippery slope once people begin to head down that trail. So obviously we agree that the English is efficient but my question to you then is this, if, I know you're not necessarily vilifying the Greek but let me ask you this question. Why do you go to the Greek? And when you go to the Greek- I go to the Greek because the Greek technically it is. I'm sorry, go ahead, I thought you were finished. No, I'll say why do you go to the Greek and then when you do go to the Greek, is that also relying on Greek philosophy? What's the difference when you use the Greek versus when I use the Greek? The way I use Greek is for enhanced understanding, not understanding. So in other words, let's take the word salvation. I'll give you an example. We talk about salvation. What is salvation? So if we go to the Greek, we know it's so-so which means healing, it means deliverance, it means preservation. It's an all-encompassing word as opposed to just saying, well, salvation, the way we understand salvation, not because of the deficiency at this point of the scripture, but because of all of the erroneous teaching that has come into the church through the Greek church fathers. That would be the difference. Okay, and so I'm not saying, here's what I think, this is what I've seen so far. And I think this may be what's happening here. I'm sure there are some things that we differ on doctrinally. And usually when people disagree with me doctrinally and we look at the English and we don't see the same thing in English, then I go to Greek. And when I'm trying to give what the Greek word is, because remember, not to you, but obviously you know this, but God in his sovereignty gave us the scriptures in Hebrew and Greek and in Aramaic. And so we are a step removed from the language, however, so if we can look at the language, so if you look at the language for clarification and I'd look at the language for clarification, then I don't see how that is in keeping with being a wolf. I see that as doing my due diligence and studying and saying, okay, this is what this word means. And there are some passages, there are some words, and I'm just gonna be, just to be honest, there are some words that without the Greek or the Hebrew, we might, we don't get a full understanding when Jesus zoomed across and he says to Telastide, there is no English counterpart to that word. There's no English counterpart to that tense. And so therefore it's necessarily helpful to go to it or in Hebrews, I use little basic examples like in Hebrews in Proverbs 22, when he says trans child in the way they should go. Well, the Hebrew tells us exactly what that passage is saying, where the English, not quite, because it's not saying in the way that he should go, the word that's used is Alpe Deco, which is upon the mouth of his way, according to his bent. And it's not a charge, it's a warning. The construct of this Hebrew passage here is if you train a child according to the bent of his way, the way he is, his natural bent, he's messy, he's angry, he's lazy. If you train him that way, then when he's old, instead of being an angry, messy, selfish, five-year-old or 15-year-old, he'll be an angry, selfish, 50-year-old or 60-year-old. And so the Hebrew kind of sheds some light where the English does it. Same thing with the Greek, with English and the Greek. And the Greek, because English is such a bastardized language, we've got a rule that's overwritten by another rule or this means this, except for this or that. And there's all these different rules in English. We have some of those in Greek, but not as much. And there's a more definiteness. There's a more laser focus on some of the words. I can say you in Greek and you'll know who I'm talking about. Whereas if I say you in English, what you were talking about, you, all of us, you, this person, y'all, her, what Greek, Hebrew kind of helps that out a little bit. And so I think it makes sense to go to the Hebrew and Greek. And I think the issue is people think that because the channel is called Smart Christian and the ministry, by the way, is called Smart Christian. It's not to say that I'm the Smart Christian. As a matter of fact, oftentimes you, especially in the edited videos, you'll hear me call everyone else who's watching, I call them Smart Christians because I want us to be smart, meaning that we ought to be discerning and thoughtful in how we look at things. Obviously, even in English, we disagree. Well, if my opinion is no more valid than yours and yours is no more valid than mine and the scriptures are the authority and that's the one thing that we're disagreeing on if the Greek or Hebrew shuts the door, well, then why, why would we not use it? And I guess what I'm saying is I'm failing to see how my use of the Greek is bringing in Greek philosophy. I can't think of any time that I've ever mentioned anything philosophical about the Greek. Whenever we put a reliance on any language, a reliance on, hear me out, an intellectual approach of thinking because we understand principles of language, because we understand constructs of language, once it becomes removed from the spirit of God's operation, I don't know, this is a very, very, very, very long-term I know some of your subscribers gonna get a little nervous to start saying a lot of stuff, but once we remove the activity of the Holy Spirit, a person can understand Greek, a person can understand Hebrew, a person can understand Latin and still not understand the scripture. What makes the scriptures, I think this probably goes to the heart of the wolf perspective that I use. Once we begin to approach the scriptures, as if it's just another bull, where if we can rightly, intellectually, diagnose and examine the languages of the bull, and it is removed from the spirit of God actually opening up our understanding. Now, this does not mean we don't study, this does not mean that we're not concerned with proper exegesis, this does not mean that we start violating kerminutical principles, it doesn't mean any of that. All of those are tools, but ultimately what gives a person an understanding of the scripture is not Greek, Hebrew, or Latin, it's actually the revelation of the Holy Spirit. Paul understood Greek, Paul understood he didn't have, was an accountable able then the scriptures to open up. Luke 24, Jesus is on the road to Emmaus. The disciples are discussing everything that had taken place, but until Jesus opened the eyes of their understanding that they might understand the scriptures, they had no understanding of the scriptures, what they had was religion. And this is a lot of what's being promoted today. And it's because of the wolves. Okay, sure. And as you say, I may be one of those wolves, but let me ask you this. How familiar are you with the things that I've said? And I guess what I'm asking, how much have you watched me or paid attention to me? I've watched a bit. Okay. I cannot say that I have sat down and actually listened to every video that you've done, because I haven't been on YouTube that long. Okay, well, here's- I know a lot of people over my years of ministry, let me finish my thought. Over my years of ministry, who use that same approach, I'm not saying you're doing exactly what they did, but I'm familiar with the approach, I'm familiar with the arguments about the language, the tenses, et cetera, et cetera. And interestingly, they all arrive at the same conclusion when it comes to certain aspects of the gospel. I think what has happened is that, and I wrote this down in kind of my notes over here, that people have made an assumption about me. He thinks he's the smart. He thinks he's so smart. He's this. And I've said this. And I could probably stop in the middle of this and a lot of these guys could finish it. I've said that we are saved not by what we know, but by who we know. Then I said that, but it is what we know about who we know that gets us closer to who we know. In other words, we've got the scriptures to grow as the Bible says, Paul says to grow in the grace and the knowledge of the Lord. And so even through my time of being in prison, I said, guys, hey, listen, I understand that we want to learn the scriptures. We want to get closer in what the scriptures are saying. But what God wants more than anything else is not a better understanding of the doctrines, but a better understanding of him. And so we are called to get closer. And I've even talked about how there was a seven year old girl who had cancer. She couldn't spell theology, but all she knew was that Christ died for us. And so on her way out, she accepted the fact that she was going to die. On her way out, she shared the gospel and to everyone's account, about 12 people had placed faith in Christ through her preaching. And obviously her preaching wasn't doctrine he's saying. It wasn't, you know, dotting the eyes and cross and tease theologically, but it's the very thing that we're supposed to. My first ministry was as an outreach minister going out and just preaching the gospel to people, grabbing somebody in the grocery store or what have you. And so if anyone knows me, they know more than anything else, I'm for the heart of the people. And then once you come to know Christ, we want to get closer to Christ. How do you do that? By what the Holy Spirit gave us, which was his word. How did the Holy Spirit give his word? He gave it to us in Greek. And so we rely on someone's translation. But what we want to do, I got something stuck in my mouth, you have to give me. But what we rely on oftentimes to our detriment is someone else's homework. Someone else telling us this is what this Greek word or this Hebrew word means in English. And we go with that. But we know that that's not always the case because all the different translations, there's going to be a difference in this word of that word. One word may make a little bit better sense to me versus other word. Not to say that those translations are incorrect because I've said that no matter what translation you use, they all are sufficient. And I say that if you rely on the Hebrew or Greek to know God, then you don't know God. I've stated that. If you rely on the Hebrew or Greek to know God, then you don't know God. However, learning Hebrew in Greek will help to understand what was said. There are passages that when people challenge me on, they don't need to know Greek or Hebrew. I'll say, OK, well, fine. Translate this passage. And they do. And I say, well, this is what this word means in the Greek since the word and words have meaning. This is the word that the Spirit sovereignly gave us this word through whoever wrote it. And so that word has to mean what it meant then. If the word meant XYZ then, guess what? The word means XYZ now. And if we're having a confusion. OK, and so if we have a disagreement on what the English word means, then this Greek word has to, if it can settle it. So let me give an example. I think you believe that Jesus is God, correct? Oh, absolutely. OK. 100%. I've had conversations with people who said that Jesus is not God. And so I go to John 1.1. Well, that's not what it's saying. And so I said, OK, well, fine. Help me understand this. And so I give a rule in Greek. Now, it bothers them to their core. But I said, this definitively shows that the word is God by the rules of Greek grammar. And so there is a situation to where they can differ, disagree. Well, I'm not sure if this is what this means. But I say, well, this is this rule in Greek. Can you refute that? Well, every time I bring up a rule in Greek, and I've done it in Hebrew as well, I get people come back and say, well, all he does is rely on the Hebrew or Greek. Well, what do you rely on? Because if the words, not you, but if the words mean what they mean, and they were originally given to us in Greek, the inspiration of the Holy Spirit gave it to them in Greek, not in English, good men, or I don't know the motives of the men that translated from English, I mean, to Greek to English, or to Spanish, or to French or to German, I don't know their motives. I know the motives of the people that originally wrote it. I know the motive of John. I know the motive of Paul and Peter. And so I'll trust what the Spirit through them gave as this word. And so I think we can rely on that. But 100% of the people in this chat that watch this channel, I'm not sure how many of them know Greek. And so for that reason, I've never done an all Greek broadcast. I've never done a Greek broadcast. I'll have it up. And if someone says, well, what does that word mean? There it is. As a matter of fact, so when I pull up a passage, let me just throw one on the screen, just four. When I put a passage on the screen, what's always gonna be there is gonna be the Greek. Or if I go to the Hebrew, it'll be, I did it wrong, or the Hebrew. And so if someone asks me, what does that word mean? There it is. And at the bottom left-hand corner, I leave it up so that if I scroll over that word, they can see what it means. They can see the tense of that word as well. And I do that one so they can hold me honest. They can go and look it up themselves because even if I'm going too fast in the broadcast, they can always go back and rewind and go to that point and look it up and then go to their strongs and so forth. And so the same reason you use the Greek is the reason why I use the Greek. The same reason that this person used the Hebrew, I use the Hebrew. The difference is gonna be two things. One, the conclusion that I come to using the Hebrew or Greek, because I can promise you this. If I came to the same conclusion as, let's say the person doesn't believe that you can lose your salvation, I believe you cannot. If I use the Greek and came to the same conclusion as he did, you know what he's gonna say? Amen to the Greek. The other thing is, sometimes, and I'm just gonna be honest, some folks get upset because they don't know the Greek as well as the person that they're talking about. And so when I talk to someone who is far better at Greek or Hebrew, okay, I get what you're saying, but all right, let me go back and check that out. You might be right, I might be wrong, okay? And so I think those are two issues. I come to a different conclusion and maybe I handle the languages better than they do. But now all that being said, I'm still trying to figure out why I'm the wolf. Why can't I just be, why can't I just come to a different conclusion or a different way of going through it without being a wolf? Why can't I just be just honestly wrong? Can I answer? Yes. And I told you, and we had conversation when we talked before today, and I made the statement to you, and I am a person of my word. And so I would have to say, having had the conversation that we've had, wolf was a strong term. And so I apologize to referring to you as a wolf, okay? And I said, I would do it. If I saw in the conversation that I made a pre-judgment, I would publicly apologize for that I apologize, but it still doesn't change the overall perspective that I have concerning methodologies. And you know what I mean by methodology, right? When I was younger, oh wow, you know what I'm talking about when you can think back to what you were doing and thinking maybe 20 years ago, about 20 years ago, I was having the same conversation with my senior professor. Now he was a professor at Dallas State Life's Preseminary. And so he's ramming stuff down me and he was the kind of person that's gonna make me study. If I said Jesus died on the cross, he's gonna say prove it. It's in the Bible, where? If I say prove it, why because he wanted to make sure that if when I get up to preach, that he never had to come back and to apologize for something silly or stupid that I said. And plus it helped me how to, because the whole point of knowing the scriptures is not just, we don't learn the scriptures just to be smart, right? I want us now, that's the logo, be smart. But being smart is two things. One, knowing what we know and what we don't know and then two, knowing how to use it. We don't have the gospel to keep it to ourselves. We have the gospel to communicate and to convey a message to people who don't know Christ. And we are all over the place. We've got, I've come, I came out of a Pentecostal church. Got friends in the Pentecostal church, love them dearly. We believe that there's just as many of those folks who are saved and love the Lord as folks who I believe have better doctrine. I know folks with some good doctrine who are on their way to hell. So I know that for a fact. I shouldn't say for a fact, I shouldn't say that. But they look like they are, they act like they are. They have no love of what sort of, like Paul said, you know this, this and this, but have no love within what Paul called you. And so, and I know that something that Dr. Bolton got on me about. Driving here in Dallas, you'll find a mega church and then a medium-sized church and a small church, 30 churches on your way to your church. And I thought about it one day, okay, I got the church of Christ with the God in Christ. Sin was the God, church of God, Baptist, which Baptist? Missionary Baptist, National Baptist, Southern Baptist, you got all these different Baptists, you got Methodists and so forth. God can't be happy with that, but he told me something. He said, Corey, do people in those denominations come to Christ each week? I said, well, yeah, how is that? If you think that what's happening is of the devil. I had no answer. He said, all right, now let's just walk through this. How does a person gain salvation? I said, by faith in Christ, he said, and what else? I said, then that's it. Okay, so can you have faith in Christ in church of Christ? Well, yeah, can you place faith in Christ in church of God in Christ or sin was a God? Yeah, what about in the Baptist church? What about a dull, boring church? Yes, what about a church where they are just, they're rocking and somebody comes in there and they just, the Lord has been, can you place faith in Christ in the church or in the grocery store? Well, yeah, so his point was, sometimes we have bad doctrine, but even in spite of that, the power of God is he works through us, he works in that. Because it may be a person that has a Pentecostal background who doesn't know anything about the Lord and is more animated and then someone else who isn't a Pentecostal church can talk to them genuinely about Christ and if the Lord wants to grow them, he's gonna grow them. The spirit is not only concerned about my growth or your growth, but everyone else's. And so I am, now there are certain people that I will call heretics and wolves. But the overwhelming majority of people who I disagree with, I won't call that because I don't see their need. I think that people can be honestly wrong about something. I really do. And so, and that was the reason, like I said, it struck me because you seem thoughtful in your discussions, like, okay, I think we can have a conversation here and we can come to different conclusions, but be cool about it, right? So... Right, right. And again, as why I said, it doesn't change what my premise is, right? Regarding the apostasy, regarding a lot of the false doctrine, the false teaching that is coming to the church. Interestingly though, everything or a lot of what I hear coming from yourself and others is I wouldn't say, because many people will probably say I'm anti-intellectual and everybody's entitled to their opinion, right? But they just probably would need to have a conversation with me, is very anti-Pentecostal, which led me to believe. Now, having heard what you just said, sheds a different light, okay? Because everything that I hear that had to do with Pentecostalism, had to do with healing, has to do with miracles, granted, there's extremes all over the place within those camps. But then again, there's extremes all over the place within quote, unquote, reform camps and every other camp, right? So my thing was, well, why is everything so anti-Pentecostal, is anti-Power of God, is anti-The Name of Jesus, is anti-This, is anti-That? And the only thing I ever saw, I'm just being honest, was this over-emphasis on the Greek. So that's why I say, having had this conversation, it was a strong term, right? Which again, my apologies for that, but it doesn't change the overall gist of my perspective of the way scripture is being handled. When I approach a scripture, matter of fact, let me give an example. When I approach a scripture, let's think of it, let's think of scripture. Oh, you know what? Let's go to the most famous passage on the planet, John 316. And so I want to get a full understanding of the passage. Obviously context makes everything understandable. Matter of fact, no, I won't use John 316. I'll stay in John and go up to John, the early part of John 3. And I'll give an example of how I use the Greek to highlight, to give emphasis. And so, matter of fact, when we put on the screen, John 3, Jesus answered, said, truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus said, how can one, can a man enter or be born when he's old? Can he enter into a second time, into his mother's womb and be born? Jesus answered, truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. And so, folks, there's this bantering back and forth. What's meant by that? Well, the Greek word shed light on this, it's gonna have to be an oath in which it means to be born from above. There's two meanings to be born. Again, again, is properly used, but it's not in context. There's grammatical keys that also tell us that it can't be again, but without doing that, we don't have to go into a deep theological lesson, a grammatical lesson, but we can see that Nicodemus disagreed, I mean, that Jesus disagreed with Nicodemus' belief that it must be a second time, and so the only other thing that it could be is born from above, can that be an oath then? And so, like, okay, well, the Greek shed light on that, okay? There are other passages where we look at something, I remember someone said this on another channel, and then they said it here, and then a third time on another channel, and they were talking about what Jesus said to the woman at the well, and when she mentions her husband. Mm-hmm. And Jesus draws it out, and it's hard to see it in English. What he's saying, he gives us this over-emphasis on her, her ways, when he talks about, he emphasized husband, no, you ain't got a husband, and he emphasizes that. She says, as a matter of fact, let me, I wanna pull this up. This is why I, and my former pastor brought this up to me, well, I said, you know what, I'm so glad that I've gotten this, and I've never met a person who has studied Greek and had decided, you know what, I'm so glad I didn't. Everyone that has gotten it, like, I'm happy for it. Here's an example. Jesus said in verse 16, go call your husband, come here. The woman said to him, I have no husband. Jesus said to her, you are right in saying I have no husband. Now, the English says I have no husband, in that same word order that the woman says, I have no husband, in English, what the woman said. Jesus says, I have no husband, in English. However, if we go over here to our good old friend, the Hebrew, I mean, Greek, she says, uk eko andra, not I have husband. Jesus says, well, you said, because he didn't say uk eko andra, if y'all can see the highlight on the uk eko andra, he says andra, uk eko. Well, what's that mean and why is that a big point? Well, because Jesus saying, you're busted. And he gives us emphasis. Well, I don't wanna go belabor the point and go into it, but his point is, or for us, it's brought out more so. Well, Jesus changes the word order. Now, we put it in different order in English because it has to fit a certain word order and that's the problem with English sometimes. Words have to fit a certain word order, whereas in Greek, they don't and you can move a word to get emphasis, which you see here. You see it in Hebrews, in a particular passage in Hebrews. You see it, matter of fact, in John 1-1, he changes when it says the word was God. The Greek says, God comes a foreword. Well, why? Because he's given emphasis to what the word is. And so that's the beauty of Greek or Hebrew. I see a person who says that Greek is a bastard language. Well, there's not a language on the planet that we know of that's not the genitive of something else. That's not bastardized from some other language. Even the Semitic languages have, as far as we can tell, another father. Now, we don't know which one predated the other, what have you. So, Muhammad al-Farouk. Brother, you're wrong, but I get it. You seem like you might be, I'm not sure. You said what I said, is a bastard language that appeals to their culture of mythology. And maybe Muhammad didn't understand how Greek became the lingua franca. Greece spoke Greek. Greek was conquered. Rome, as the dominant culture, the dominant nation, still kept Greek as the lingua franca. The majority of Rome still spoke Greek. The majority of Jews in that region in 1st century Palestine still spoke Greek. A few spoke Hebrew, some spoke Aramaic, which is why we don't have Hebrew or Aramaic passages from the 1st century, or the 2nd century. The Peshata comes, I think, the 4th century, 5th century, I'm not sure. And so it's just helpful to know it, not to rely on it, but to get a clear understanding. There's some things I cannot refute in the Greek or the Hebrew. So. So let me ask you this, and I agree with, let me ask you a question. I wanna go back to the passage with Nicodemus, and I'll stay with the one with the woman at the well. Okay. Once people can decipher or get an understanding out of the Greek, what Jesus was actually saying, why do you think Jesus made the statement to Nicodemus and said, are you a ruler? Because actually Nicodemus was not just a teacher or Pharisee, he was a teacher of the teachers. But yet Jesus says to him, how is it that you're a ruler of the Jews who understand the language that I'm speaking, but you don't understand what I'm saying? Why do you think that was? Well, because Jesus is not gonna hold Nicodemus accountable for something he's never been taught or should know, you're a teacher of Israel. So this has to be something that Jesus is, or that was spoken of. And so there's what's called in Greek, the ep-exegetical chai. And let me just put that on the screen. In the ep-exegetical chai, Jesus says this, surely, truly I say to you unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. But then when he goes down to verse five, look what he says, unless one is born of water and spirit. Now, is he talking about two elements or one element? Well, the ep-exegetical chai says this, guys, the ep-exegetical chai is how you use two things to say one thing. You can use two words, or in some cases three, to say one thing. So he's talking about one element. Even in the English, I can see that, but I'll show it to you in the languages. But even in the English, we know he, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Even in the English, we know he's speaking about one element. No, I know you're asking why does he go on Nicodemus about that? Because he later says, I'm sorry. Go ahead, I'm sorry. He later says that which is born of, he says that which is born of flesh is flesh, that which is born of spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said that you, so it is everyone who was born of the spirit. Well, in verse eight, he doesn't bring up water and spirit. But then he gets on Nicodemus for not knowing. He says, Nicodemus, you're a teacher of Israel. Don't know this. Well, what is he referring to? Well, this ep-exegetical chai of water and spirit, and this is why I said all this, is hearkening back to what was said in the Old Testament. That's why I refer to either Jeremiah or Ezekiel, Jesus. God says that he will take out our heart of stone and put in a heart of flesh. And he'll do two things, or he'll do one thing, but he uses two elements to describe what he's doing. He'll put water in our heart, wash our hearts, sprinkle a little water and with his spirit. And so those same two elements that was prophesied about, about what he's gonna do with the heart, he's saying Nicodemus, feel like a better way to put it. You should know this Nicodemus. This isn't new, but you weren't paying attention. He uses the exact same elements, two elements to say one thing that's born again that was spoken of earlier in Ezekiel 36. And so that's why he says, you a teacher of Israel, you don't know this, you're supposed to know this. And it's clear that Jesus was bothered by Nicodemus' lack of understanding. So that's my... Here's why I ask the question. Okay, here's why I ask the question. And the same thing with the woman at the well. An understanding of a language intellectually, understanding of concepts, et cetera, does not guarantee an understanding of the scriptures. No, you're right. This is right. What Nicodemus lacked was spiritual understanding. That's what he lacked. He didn't lack an understanding of the language. Paul didn't lack an understanding of the language. He lacked a spiritual understanding that comes based off of person's relationship with Jesus. Same thing with the woman at the well. Regardless of how she defined husband, the point of the matter was Jesus had to reach the Samaritans based off of the prophetic utterances in the plan and purpose of God. So it's not that people understanding Greek or Hebrew. And again, I'm not opposed to Greek or Hebrew. I'm opposed to this idea that people have to know it or should know it in order to understand the plain utterances of the scripture. That's the only thing that I'm saying. So I'm not at Greek or Hebrew. I've said this, anyone can know the scriptures in English, anybody. I've said that there is really only one group of people that I think ought to, ought to. If I think it should be a requirement, this is me. If I'm handing out licenses, of course it's not up to me, but I think that if you are going to be a pastor, I think you ought to know Hebrew and Greek. You don't have to be proficient at it. You ought to be able to just at least handle it. Why? Because you're going to come across passages to where you're going to have to, the English, let's just be clear guys, that English doesn't always do it. Here's why. You can write a letter to someone in English and then have someone who also speaks English read that letter. Two things, what they don't get is the heart. When you and I speak, having a conversation, you'll hear my words and you'll hear my heart, the thought behind it. And so you've got two types of Bibles. You have a word for word, which is what the King James, new King James, ESV and ASV, so for those are word for words. They're doing their best. Exactly, they're doing their best to say this word in the Greek or Hebrew means this word, this word means that word, right? And then they'll make it into smoother English. But then you have a thought for thought, which is the NIV, which is another part of language, communication, trying to convey the heart, the thought behind it. Well, when you read something that's written, it is, guys, it is impossible to get both fully. It just is. If someone can figure out how to do it, let me know. We know it's a problem because us English speaking folks reading the same English Bible come to different conclusions because it's hard to kind of get that. Aside from the fact that we have these different preconceived notions about what a text is saying before we even read the text, that laid to the side. Right. So no, you don't have to know Hebrew and Greek, but a pastor should because there are certain passages that need to be fleshed out. Like John 19.30, when Jesus says it is finished, what is he saying is finished? And everybody's gonna run through and say what he came to do. No, what people run to, that's not quite what he's saying. Cause again, it's a word that we don't have in English counterpart too. And so it requires someone to say, this is really what he's saying here. Just like in John four, yeah, what you said is true. And how the woman at the well began to understand what Jesus is, who he is. It's cause like, wait a second, this guy, this guy's all up in my business and I haven't told him anything. And cause what she couldn't make it says, I'm sorry, go ahead. What did she say? Huh? What did she say? How was she able to understand what Jesus was saying? What was it that actually brought this woman to a point of recognition that she is literally face to face with the Messiah? What was it? Two things. Two things, matter of fact, let's go there. Two things that was said that rocked her world. All right, I'm getting better on this software guys. I'm getting better at it. One, verse 16, when he says, go and call your husband. Now she's intrigued by the living water. She is. She's never heard anything like this. Now he says though earlier, how is it that you would, that you would, a Jew asked a drink from me, a woman of Samaritan, Samaria, for Jews had no dealings with Samaritans. And so already she's floored by the mere fact that they're even having this conversation cause culturally we don't do this. We don't get down with y'all. I don't get down with us. And so here you are, but then he makes some statements cause she could have been thinking, well, this is just some crazy old Jewish guy who you know, I don't know what he's up here talking about, but he makes some statements to her. And so he says, one, he says, if you'd known the water that I have, you'd be asking me for a drink. So she's intrigued. But what he says in verse 16, the emphasis on Andra being pushed to the front, she's like, well, wait a second, something, he's saying something here. He makes another statement. Go down in verse 24. He said, God is a spirit and those who worship him must worship him in spirit and truth. The woman said to him, I know that Messiah's coming. He who is called Christ. This is what he says also. He says, when he comes, he will tell us all things. Jesus says to her, I who speak to you, am he. Now in the English, it's just like that. But in the Greek, he says, here it is. Let me just, y'all pardon me, I'm gonna read in Greek. Legate Haesos, which is, he said to her, Jesus, Ego Eme, Halalon Soy, this part right here, this Ego Eme, floored her. It floored her because he's saying, who you waiting on is right here, baby. And he just say, I'm he, not the Messiah, but he said it as though he is God. Cause he could have said it in different ways. I'm the one you're talking about. No, he says Ego Eme. And this is one of those passages where it is definitive, Daryl King said, I'm speaking in tongues. This is one where it's definitive that he is equating himself with God. He is equating himself with God. And what does she do? She takes off, y'all. Now we're not privy, apparently, to the entire conversation, I don't think. I'm willing to bet, though I can't prove it, that they may have spoken some more. But what she said to her people was, he told me all about me. He was talking all about my, all up in my business. And he was right, come see him. Okay, so would you say, and I understand everything that you said, but you couldn't get that just reading the English? No, you can get it. No, I got that reading the English, but what I'm saying is, it's even more illuminated. So when he pushes the eye and right to the front, he's telling them, baby, I know about you. I know you. It's almost like when people have these little scams and they go to a church and they tell a person, say a word, and they say, oh, oh, you brought that word, house. Oh, you all having problems with the house? What's going on with the house? What's going on in the house, right? These little, well, she knew he wasn't doing that. He wasn't being Miss Cleo. He was, bam, this is the issue right here. And then when he said the next part, the I am God part, she was like, okay, fine. And she says, come see a man who told me all that I ever did. So yeah, you can get that from the English. You absolutely can. But this is where the preacher needs, because the preacher's job is to get as close to the word as possible to convey it to the people. Well, if he is on the same level as the people he's leading, why are you leading? I'm not saying that. That's not what I'm talking about. In the audience, but if you're gonna be the pastor, if you're gonna be the leader, you can't leave from behind, right? And so you ought to have something about you that people can respect about you being able to handle the scriptures. This is what Paul is imploring Timothy, as well as for Timothy to implore to other future pastors. And so that's why I think that the people who are going to lead God's flock, they have to know Hebrew. You don't have to be fluent. You don't have to be an expert. You don't have to have 10 years of it. That's not what I'm saying. But when you see that this is a present active participle or a plural subjunctive, you should know what that means and how to read that. That's all. Now, for the next person, the late person who wants to get closer to God, other than growing spiritually and you want to understand his word better though, the only way to understand his word better than your current English is to throw in the Hebrew and Greek. It just, it- What about this? What about this as I'm not saying instead of, I'm saying in this case, in addition to. Well, let me go back to the statement about pastors and leaders. I think the primary qualification for anyone handling the word of God ought to be they actually have a relationship with Jesus and they're anointed to do what they're called to do. Now that's just my perspective. Well, that doesn't do away with learning. Please hear what I'm saying. It doesn't do away with learning, by any stretch of the imagination. Can I say this real quick? Let me say this real quick. People think that because I might bring up the Hebrew and Greek and this God thing, he's so smart, he didn't know I don't, but he just denies the power of the Holy Spirit. And so what I'll say is, if you think I'm denying the power of the Holy Spirit, come look at my testimony, come see the other folks who know me that have interacted with me and you tell me if I deny the Holy Spirit, you tell me, you tell me, tell this homosexual person, this previous person who struggled homosexuality, who through the teachings of the word is no longer struggling with that. Do I believe in the power of the Spirit? You tell me about this white supreme, it's three of them actually, no, no two, I'm sorry. One, eh, but two definitely, who no longer hate black folks through the preaching of the gospel through the power of the Holy Spirit. You tell me and then that I don't believe in the power of the Holy Spirit. I see this often thing where he has his reliance on on head knowledge. Well, you know who gave my head to know some things? God to grow in the grace. Now I'm not saying that's what you're saying, but I saw one of the comments and so I want to make that clear. The Holy Spirit through the power of the Holy Spirit gave me these passages in Greek, someone turned around and used it in Hebrew. I mean, and translated in English. You can't tell me that if I love the Lord, I'm not saying that you would do this, but you also can't impugn me for running to the Greek because I love the Lord. I heard a guy put it this way, I'm gonna give it back to you. Where a person was, he was married to a woman of a different language, different culture. She had a broken language, broken English. And so he did everything that he could to get closer to it and learn more about her. And once he learned her language, their relationship just, it got better because he could now speak to her better. He could understand what she was saying better. Obviously with the Lord, we've got the Holy Spirit in us. But people with the Holy Spirit differ on these texts. And if the Greek or Hebrew or Aramaic, she has light on it, why wouldn't you? I'm sorry, go ahead. I just want to put that out for a person who made a statement in the comments. That you didn't pull it out of the statement that I made. No, no, no, because of someone else. What I have seen over the years and dealing with ministry, with people who think there's seminary training, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, prepares them for ministry. They fall way short of actually being able to fulfill the plan and the purpose of God. In fact, historically, the majority of people that were actually, that were used powerfully when it comes to restorative moves of God, they were not highly educated people. Even within, I'll take the African-American culture since I'm African-American. Many of the early leaders in our own communities, they couldn't read, they couldn't write. I'm not advocating ignorance. So please, nobody say that. I'm merely making a point. What I'm stating is it should be more of a reliance on the work and the teaching ministry of the Holy Spirit to open up the word of God, then a reliance on the accuracy of certain languages. I would agree with you though, that knowing how to speak someone's language helps to deepen and to develop that relationship. I agree one wholeheartedly, which is one of the reasons I believe that spirit-filled people ought to be able to speak the language of God. God's language isn't Hebrew and it's not Greek. I'm just saying. I agree. I agree. So from that standpoint, I think pretty much, I'm glad we had this conversation though, because it cleared up some misperceptions that I had about you and about your approach. Hopefully, well, I'll talk to you offline with the statement I was going to make, but ultimately, like I said before, my main passion and my main concern is to see the people of God grow up into him in all things. That's ultimately what my concern about. Equally, I believe that I need to earnestly contend for the faith that was once delivered to the saints. We cannot know what that faith is outside of scripture, more specifically, the book of Acts. I know people disagree with that too, right? But ultimately, those are my passions. Those are my concerns. And I don't necessarily believe that it cannot be done without knowing Greek and Hebrew, because I know too many Greek Hebrew scholars and people who have gone to seminary, learned Greek Hebrew, and you start talking to them about the fundamentals of the faith, they'll explain it away using Greek. And I'm kind of like, how are you arriving at that? Well, right? I heard you say this. I was like, is he saying that? I'm thinking there are people, I know there are people out there who nowadays scholars, so-called scholars show their metal by trying to show something new, come with some new belief. And so what they will do is, and there's one person who has in the past, I think has been a good defender of the gospel, but I think sometimes he goes over thinking it. And that's Brother William Lane Craig. I think sometimes the time, and he says he takes a philosophical approach, and I think sometimes taking that approach and just sitting back and just thinking too much, are you overthinking? Because God knows one thing, we ain't that bright. We're not that bright, we're not that smart. We can try to be smart, but we're not that smart. And so he gives it to us in a way that we can understand and we try to outthink him. And so it's now the way he looks at it, well, is this what God meant? That might have meant this, wait a second. He was talking to ignorant people so that they can understand it. It's the reason why he calls us sheep. Sheep aren't dumb, sheep aren't smart. It's the reason why he calls us that. And he gives it the best way that sheep can get it, but what do we do? We mess it up, because what are we, we're sheep. So you don't need Greek or Hebrew to know the Bible or to know God. You don't, as a matter of fact, if you rely on Hebrew or Greek to know the Bible or to know God, then you will not know God. IG, it's just a tool that we use and every time that I have an opportunity to, if I can't get it, because I think it says what it says in English. I think it says what it says in English and it's perfectly clear, but then when we get to a point where we disagree, well then, hey, now we've got a problem. So anyway, brother, I appreciated this. I think, first time I spoke with someone that called me a wolf and then walked away and said I wasn't a wolf. So I'm good, I'm good. I don't even wanna go any further. So brother, I appreciate the fact that you came on and that you're like, you know, I'm gonna go and call my wolf on his channel and it wasn't hostile. You didn't go come here talking about hieroglyphics and you didn't come here talking about the Illuminati and you didn't come here talking about the white man's Bible and this and the, so we're good. We are good. That's the way it should be. We should be able to be at peace with each other if at all possible, as much as possible. Paul and Barnabas disagreed. Both of them are men who love the Lord. One was, obviously if you're gonna disagree, somebody's right and somebody's wrong. But what God doesn't do is keep score on how often you're wrong. He keeps score on how much you love him on how close you're getting to him on your heart and your motives behind it. And so I think we're good. So brother, I appreciate this. I appreciate you coming on. I think we handle ourselves like grown men, like godly men. So, guys, if you wanna check out, go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead. No, I was just gonna say, and I think if more conversations like this can be had instead of raking people and even when it's time to have the conversation, if people can sit, listen to each other because it can clear up some misperception because some of the things that I heard coming out of you tonight, I've never heard it and it could be because I haven't listened to all of your teaching, right? Now we still got some areas where we differ and that's okay, that's okay. But I appreciate you. And hopefully going forward, we can have some other conversation around some issues. And the only thing that I could say is this. Bruh, all Pentecostal, charismatic, tongue-talking believers are not just flipping off of their emotions. There are those of us who actually think, okay? So, I don't have to say that. I'm gonna have to get you in touch with, by the way guys, he's gonna be on tomorrow with the worst Church of God in Christ member in the history of Church of God in Christ, Sir Walter Jones. He's gonna be on here tomorrow, five o'clock at the same time. And so we're gonna have a good discussion after I need to call him later on. And so, but this is good. Guys, make sure you go and check out his channel. It's on the screen. I guess you just click on it. Is that right, Chess Champ? So, brother, this was wonderful. I appreciate you coming on here. I'll talk to you later. I'm gonna go ahead and talk with them off after this and then just dismiss them. But I wanna again, thank you for coming on. Well, thank you for your time and for your listeners. I appreciate your courtesy and not dragging me over the coals. Thank you, brother. You have a good one. Good job. So guys, I think, what does it say? Uh-oh. I think that was good. I didn't know how it was gonna turn out. I hadn't talked, I talked to him before about let's go ahead and schedule this. Typically, somebody makes a statement and says something and is like, okay, fine. If you had an issue, you can address it. And I tried to be consistent with a person who has an issue with me that you can come, not necessarily come on because we're gonna be pulling back more. Not just anybody can come and hate who I wanna come on. Nope. You wanna come on, I'm starting to think. Okay, I can't let you come on. So that being said, that being said, what should I say? Yeah, you know what I'm gonna say this. I don't say it often. Get the likes up, guys. Y'all sitting gone, gone, gone, give your brother a like. How about that? I really say it so it feels funny coming out of my mouth. Hit that like button. What do y'all say? Smash it. Listen, don't smash the like button gently with the finger that you turn your pages on the Bible or tap your Bible app gently, just gently because I don't want you to break the button. Wanna use that button again. Tap the like button. Gently caress it. Give it a holy ghost tap. And if all you Pentecostals charismatic, slay the like button in the spirit. How about that? Anyway, I have just said guys, I've told y'all and I think maybe if a person has a view of me, I don't know how prevailing the view is. I don't know how prevailing the view is. But if someone sees me a certain way, best on me. If you think that I rely on the Greek too much or this or that or whatever, I'll give you that perception. If you, whatever it is. And so I'm open to hearing what you've got to say, even though I'm real bad, I'm so far behind, guys. I'm so far behind. But even though I'm bad on getting to the comments, I do at least zoom through the comments and see if someone says, hey, you know what? I think you might've done this or that. You might've been wrong on that. Cool. By the way, y'all do know that the majority of the content that comes out here comes from what you say in the comments. I've got a little thing that shows me what I'm saying. I mean, what you guys are saying and I'll put it together. So if you say, as a matter of fact, we're doing one on, is it Thursday? I can't think, right? I can't think, right? You know why I can't think, right? Because the kids are out of the house. The 15 year old, soon to be 16, she's gone to a Christian camp with my third oldest. Yeah. The big sister took the little sister to the Christian camp. She's a praise and worship leader, which I'm so, anyway, they're out of the house. It's just me, the Mrs, we got two dogs and a cat that's horrible, but it's just us. And so I'm about to put you guys off. Me and the wife, we watched a movie last night. We might watch another in a day. But this on Wednesday or Thursday, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I gotta look at the schedule, but we're gonna talk about something that you guys have brought up, the books of the Bible, or the books of God. The book of life is the book of life, the only book that God has. And I'm gonna prove it. Oh, by the way, oh, by the way, this is funny, interestingly enough. When I talk about the book of the Bible, this is another book, and we're gonna use the Hebrew to prove that it's not just the book of life, plus English as well. But yeah, and don't be too hard on Darryl though, because guys, what he did was I thought was stand up because most people, I wouldn't say most, but a lot of folks would just say, yeah, you know what, Darryl, well, matter of fact, I'll make four more videos on you. There's a bunch of videos on me. So I was looking up his video, because I couldn't remember the name. I knew his name was D.A., but I know that was the name of the channel. And I was like, man, that's all these videos. Man, I'm just, so, but that happens. That happens. And so I can, we, you've got, if you cannot handle someone saying something bad about you, you're not gonna make it in this world. You just, you just not, you just not, especially in this social media age where most of the folks are gonna say something bad about you, they don't live around you, they're just gonna, you know what, you're this, you're that. They got all these nasty words to say, things they would not say to your face. But because I'm 5,000 miles away, or I might be across the street, but you don't know that I'm on my computer, I'll say whatever. All right? Dianna says, yeah, you do need a thick skin. If you don't have a thick skin, you're in trouble in this world. You are in trouble. And so you call me names, all right? You want me to call you your mama, right? What does that do? And so I don't know. I also appreciate the fact that he said what he said and was willing to come. Now I've called people out as well. I've differentiated between some of the folks that I call out. So I said, hey, what you're doing is a different gospel, but I haven't necessarily called them a wolf. I think you're an error. And then there's some folks who are giving a different gospel, who are wolves, because I'm looking at the heart. You're sitting there saying this, and we know good and well that this didn't happen, that you're not doing this. First is the person who just, they're just, I gotta take this off. I don't like my name being on here. They're just decent people who just came by something incorrectly, ignorantly. So, yeah, that's how we did it. Your mama, your mama. Matter of fact, I tell my brother, your mama. It was the same mama, but your half of the mama. How about that? So I need to call my brother. I have not insulted my brother about two, three weeks. Yeah, I need to call him up. I tell my brother stuff like, there's a reason why you weren't mama's favorite. And that's what brothers do. If you can't, listen, some of y'all don't have, y'all weren't raised right. And you didn't have brothers that picked on you and talked bad about you, and you didn't give it back, right? Just goofy stuff. What do they say, your teeth show yellow when you close your mouth, your eyes glow? Stuff like that. So we would give it back to each other and we would deal with it. And if it's funny, you gotta be able to laugh at yourself. You gotta be able to handle it. You gotta be able to just sometimes, sometimes you don't give a response at all. Sometimes you just walk on by. You just, you know what? Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I'm right. I'm evil, I'm going to hell. Okay, I'm sorry, I was just checking out something. So anyway, guys, I've enjoyed this and it's not two hours. It's not even an hour and a half. It is my time. Somebody said, wait, I said repent. Why don't I have repent now? Cause I said my little joke. Listen, my brother is so dumb. That's a good way to start a counter. My brother is, my wife looked at me. Yeah, my brother is so dumb. I think she said be nice, okay? I'm sorry, I'll be nice. I won't call my stupid brother dumb. I don't know how many times he got whoopings because of me. And he just, just, him, mama. But what's funny though, like with my sisters and my daddy, he said, how dumb is he? I wish I should have had a ready made response. But y'all ever noticed though, and it's just crazy how I do a lot of times thinking about the old stuff, especially with my kids. But by the way, does anybody still have incense? Do they still make those? Cause I'm, this candle over here is smelling good, so I've said anything about back in the day when we had incense, when we smell that stuff. My brother is so dumb, let me tell you how dumb he is. My wife, my mother used to smoke weed. This is back in the day, mama wouldn't say, she wasn't a Christian. Mama used to smoke weed, she used to, you know, anyway, and this is back in the day where you can go to the store, you can, as a kid, you can buy cigarettes for your parents. This is back, you remember that you put a quarter or got 50 cents you put in the machine and you pull a little deal out and cigarettes drop down? Some of you all, Daryl, you have no idea what I'm talking about. I should, actually you have no idea what I'm talking about. But you should be able to go and get cigarettes. Or you can go to the store and you can get, I shouldn't say it, but you can go and get tops. You know, to roll that weed up, right? So what I did was, mama had a weed box, which kept her weed. Now, she has come to Christ y'all, and so I can say this, she has gone on to be with the Lord, which is my greatest testimony that she came to Christ before she passed, long before she passed. But anyway, she had a weed box. She went to work and so me and Chris get off of school, I said, Chris, can you get the box mama said? I said, mama said that I can take her box of school. Her weed box, yeah, a weed box. So I took the weed box of school, showed it off, my teacher blessed her heart. She'd never seen that. My teacher, it's like, what in the world? Now it's showing tell. I'm showing off, I'm telling. So obviously mama's gonna find out about it. Well, so who took the weed box out the house? Chris did mama. Now Chris is my older brother. Oh, Chris got a weapon, but mama. That's how dumb my brother is. I'm sorry, I won't say it again. I won't say it again. I love my brother to death. I love him to death. But anyway, your mama's so old, she dream reruns. What'd they say? She was, how did that thing go? That she was at the world premiere of the Bible? I forgot, but anyway. So let me answer this question. Yeah, there are the weed box, man. Y'all don't listen. Some of you kids don't know what it was like in the 70s. Wonderful time. Y'all think the 90s was the, what? Y'all little funky afros now with nothing back then. The highest back afro, you might keep the pick in it. Leather jacket, man. I wanted to grow up and just be a older guy with an afro. I used to look at those guys like, man, one day, right? But anyway, the 70s were cool. That's what everybody in the hood smoked weed. You know, anyway. So let me ask this, let's be like the conservative twins. Let's get serious. I have been, I've been having some tough witnessing. I've been having some tough, okay, witnessing to Mormons and Latter-day Saints. Have you spoken with them and witnessed to them the full truth? Yeah, I have. You're gonna have a hard time doing it, especially if you're doing it when you're talking to two of them at the same time. Because peer pressure is something else. And so if it's just me and my buddy talking to you, we already both know that you're deceived. And so if you can speak to the one-on-one, it's a lot better, but don't try not to. You can plant a seed. All you have to do is give them the scripture. And part of the problem when they bring up who God is or that we can be guys and you're reading the scripture, wait a second, what about this? Sometimes you can just use logic. Now, if a person is black and they're in the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter-day Saints, I'll tell them the little story about why there were no blacks in the Mormon church up until recently. And that was because that they believed that because when Satan and Jesus drew straws, when Lucifer and Jesus drew straws to become a God of this world, that Satan rebelled was upset. And him and his followers were cast on the earth and they were given a mark for their disobedience. And that was black skin. And so if you're black, you are a descendant of Satan and his fallen angel. Well, and that's true. That's the historical fact of that church. And so I said, brother, now this is me almost my black keeper is like kind of approach. Brother, you want to be in this white man's religion right here that caused you the devil. But that part is true though. That is true. So, but more than that though, their doctrine just doesn't hold up that here comes Jesus and God to speak to Joseph Smith and he put his head into a tap. By the way, if he spoke to you, Joseph Smith, why then does your book, the book of Mormon have to be revived? I mean, revised. You have to correct what he says. You have these other corrections before the book was written. So there's, there's a lot of problems. And so I would say, and there are probably people that are far better at uncovering Mormonism that I am. Maybe I have to just, you know, I may, you know what remind me what you do, send me an email. We're gonna put that on the agenda. We're gonna put that on the agenda. And he says, is it okay to listen to the temptations or is that too worldly? Man, listen, one of my favorite songs is My Girl. Some of those songs will get you married too. You sing that song to your, if she's your girlfriend and you want to marry her, sing My Girl. Sing some of them songs. Listen, I say this though, some of those older songs, if it's a love song, make sure you are in a position to handle it. If the song is talking about making love and you're single, you have no business listening to it because that's gonna tempt you. If you're married, hey, no problem. Listen to Michael Jackson. Man, listen, Michael Jackson's from Indiana. He didn't go off the rails until he went to California. So there's another PSA to tell you stay in Indiana. So anyway, let me put that up, Darrell. Darrell is hosting a Zoom. Cory got to go spend time with his wife. But yeah, y'all got me, yeah, I got to go. So y'all hit up Darrell. Darrell, go ahead and put it in the comments section as well and I will, matter of fact, if you tell me how often you're doing this, I know some of the guys have these other studies. I know Mr. K has some stuff, I think with you and Cheshire and some other folks, Scott as well, where's Scott anyway? So if you guys have something where you all, you know, have like another little outside community you're doing stuff, man, amen, amen. And so if you need me to post that stuff or even if you got like a little small video and you want to make a video advertising it, if you want to make a video advertising it and you want me to put it out there, make the video, send it to me and I will put it, I will put it out there. So folks can just click the link and go to it. So whatever you guys want to do because we need more Christians doing Christian stuff. It's going to get bad. I was talking to, a matter of fact, in April of the day about why I think when in this, I have this pre-tribulation belief, why I think we won't be missed when it happens. Cause I think the time is going to happen when it does that there'll be so few Christians. It's like, you won't know. But what you will still see are the professing Christians that really aren't Christians. You'll still see them there. And so like, well, there was an eruption. So that's just my hypothesis. Anyway guys, I thank you. Okay. Thank you guys, singing is awesome. I thank you guys. I hope you all have a wonderful and blessed night and I will see you tomorrow. Amen.