 What type of Asian men are the most toxic? This Australian TikToker is going viral from making this list and ranking them, and we're here to talk about whether we agree or disagree. Yeah, this list is going viral right now, joining us to discuss whether we agree or disagree with each ranking is Nellie Nelchan all the way from LA. Glad to be here talking about toxicity as that is in my nature. Is it in your nature, or are you just accused of being toxic? Man, I've been accused of being toxic in so much of my life that I might as well embrace it. Well, it's good to have some toxic Asian male representation on the board today, you know, that gives us more of a different perspective. Andrew, let's run the clip. Today we're ranking Asian men from least toxic to most toxic. Let's preface this with that all men and all male toxicity is all to do with their ego and how they choose to express that. Let's start with the bottom, Chinese. Their ego is built through business and status. So, you know, they're just busy building businesses and status. It's not so toxic to deal with. Second, which is equally as un-toxic are Japanese. Japanese men, their ego is just built on our stability. Maybe they'll be quiet and not to date, but you know, not so toxic. Around this area are Indonesians, Malaysians, Thai. Most of them are busy, just trying to live a good life. And let's go on the other side and let's kick it off right here with the Koreans. Their ego is also through status and a feeling of significance, which sounds just like these guys. But the thing about these guys is they look all okay on the outside, but on the inside, crying and anger. And the number two spot we've got. This Chinese Filipino TikToker from Australia, I believe her name is Jamie, her channel is Fuligan Kevs, says that the expression of the male ego, Andrew, differs from Asian group to Asian group. And she's like came up with a ranking from least toxic all the way to the most toxic. Obviously, Chinese was at the bottom. Wow, so Chinese are the least toxic men, she was saying. And she was saying, the reasoning for this was because it was built, the ego was built more on business status and money, not so much maybe like, I guess, masculinity or desiring women, you know what I mean? Like being manipulative to women, right? It's not as often. Yeah, I would agree with this. Nell, as a toxic Chinese guy, or I guess according to this chart, the rare toxic Chinese guy, would you agree with this? I agree with it to a certain extent. Oh, majority of it, you know, I think Chinese people are especially guys are more, you know, money driven or success driven where they focus a lot of their time and energy on trying to be successful or trying to make the most money. They don't really got the time to focus on how to, you know, manipulate girls or try to be toxic to girls. I think they just want to kind of focus on being good to themselves. And you know what I think is really unique about Chinese guys, Andrew, is that they only just care about the amount of money in the bank and like their raw liquidity and capital assets. It is not necessarily about the flash. I know some of the new mainland Chinese guys are a little bit different like running counter to this trend, but... Hey, I saw this funny comment. It said, hey, yes, being Chinese, I agree. Girls date us Chinese dudes, especially us Canto Chinese, because we're the safest bet. Now, how specific are we gonna say that Cantonese guys of them all might be the least toxic and the least focused on being flashy, being manipulative, being like egotistical? You're gonna say, guys, these are just stereotypes, archetypes, categorizations, whatever you want to say, generalizations, that Fujinese guys are gonna be more toxic than Cantonese guys. That's the stereotype, right? Yeah, that's the stereotype. However, Andrew, this next comment said, yeah, but bro, why are you so happy about that? Girls actually like toxicity, especially when women are young and still hot. No, agree or disagree with this. That does have some truth to it. Some girls seek a toxic guy because to them it seems more fun, you know, more, you know, more exciting. You know, and they get to like, they get this challenge to be able to like change or tame this toxic guy and turn him to a good guy, you know? Hey, young girl, let's just throw it out there in ABG, who is a bottle girl. She might be looking for a toxic guy. Yeah. So I guess in this case, Andrew, if you're like a Chinese guy who wants that, then you're like, all of a sudden, man, I'm on the low end of the toxicity ranking. Maybe I need to up it. Like I said, guys, not everybody thinks being toxic is bad. And these are just stereotypes and generalizations. Obviously there are plenty of toxic Chinese guys, but there's also just so many Chinese guys, period. Moving on, Andrew, she has Japanese coming in at number two least toxic. She said, most Japanese care about honor and stability. And they are very quiet and polite and would be me making up a good guy to date. All right, here's my thing. In Australia, unless she's very well-traveled, the Australian Japanese population is only 0.3% of the population. So I feel like she's more basing it off of like the international kind of generalization of Japanese men. Right, like from Japan, right? Which I would say generally though, is considered very patriarchal, but also very polite and quiet and proper in many ways. However, they do expect certain like patriarchal, like hierarchical structures. Yeah, it's really difficult to understand unless you go to Japan and you spend a lot of time, their level of patriarchy and their level, I guess of some people also say herbivoresness, it's a very stark contrast. It's almost like kind of difficult to explain. You kind of got to go there. Now, do you have any commentary on Japan being second least toxic to Chinese? I think I kind of agree with Japanese being down there. I don't really know a lot of toxic Japanese guys, just like you guys mentioned, they are very, you know, honorable, they're nice, they're polite. I can see their stats for their older generations being way different though. I think theirs is like kind of depending on age range. Moving on. Toxic but honorable. Moving on, she has Indonesian, Malaysian and Thai. She says, most Indonesian, Malaysian and Thai people are just busy trying to live a good life, survive, live a simple life. That does not leave a lot of time for them to be toxic. Um, actually, so I think it's funny because like Australia is a lot closer to Southeast Asia. So even talking about Malaysian and Indonesian guys is even more common. Like, you know, the populations in America are not that large. No, people in America do not even know what these countries are. That's why I felt like this list went viral because you really broke it down into like some of the more minority, you know, ethnicities that, you know, that don't really get talked about a lot. Yeah, I would say, I guess it's hard to sample size. I'm not sure who she's talking about, but I guess a lot of the Malaysians and Indonesians that you meet overseas like in America are like Chinese Indonesians or Chinese Malaysians. So maybe- Maybe Chinese Thai to be honest. Sometimes some of their Chinese-ness is even keeping them lower on the toxicity level. I don't know. Yeah, but you know, to the same point, they also have a couple high profile guys that I don't know if he was toxic or not, but what was Joe Loh from Malaysia where he embezzled $5 billion just to be cool? Oh, J. Ho Loh. Wow. But you could say if J. Ho Loh was better looking and more toxic, Andrew, he wouldn't have needed to embezzle $5 billion to live that high value, high leverage life. Moving on, Andrew. This gets to the point, the middle point of the video where she goes, these groups of people are like above average in terms of male toxicity. And the first group she put was Koreans. And she said because they need status and they really need the desire to feel significant. However, she also pointed out that the Korean male ego is very fragile and underlying their cool, tough exterior is a lot of crying and anger. She went in. Now I was pretty deep. Now she's on point on that. Like a lot of Korean guys, you know, their ego is like, you know, up there and they try to like perceive it and try to withstand it to be like, you know, that's like their pride, you know? Koreans are very prideful. And don't be triggered guys. I know the Korean internet, they're gonna be triggered by that comment. Because I heard a lot of my Korean friends say this about Koreans too, but it's different when it's like in the family outside the family. Is it understandable that their egos are a little bit higher than like a Chinese male ego? You know, like with everything going on, they got all the cool wave, their wavy body, you know, they got the music and the dramas behind them. I would say that Korean guys try a lot harder to be conventionally masculine or cool. But then I guess if something breaks that, there also could be hurt. But like for example, a Chinese guy, you can't be hurt by your pursuit to be masculine if you never really try to be masculine. Yeah, they don't care. Yeah, you don't even care. You're just like, man, nothing even matters to me. I guess Andrew, is this a good place to be or a bad place to be? I'd say like a lot of Korean guys, it's kind of like a middle zone that fits really well with America. I'm not saying having a fragile male ego or wanting to be hypermasculine is good or bad, but it seems like it fits in with how America already is. Yeah, I understand. I do think America is a country of egos and I think it's a country where you can flex your ego and that is very accepted. And sometimes I'll be honest, having an ego, having a chip on your shoulder, however you want to describe it, it can drive you to go do a lot of things. It drives a lot of Koreans to go put themselves out there, to be musicians, to try to look good, to try to be cool. And if you do, if a lot of you try to be cool, then the image of the Koreans goes higher. Right, right, right. It is cooler. Like I said, there's pros and cons to the pursuit of anything, right? What are you motivated by? What is the outcomes? Is it better to be uncool or viewed as uncool and secure? Or is it better to be cool and insecure? I'm moving on. She goes to Vietz, Campbell, and Laos moving up the toxicity scale. She says that these men are motivated by money, significance, notoriety, and they want to get money and they do not care of how they get it is legal. That last line is crazy. What a line. I got to say, because I don't want to comment on this myself. I'm just going to use comments from the jackfruit thread where she said, this guy said, she's right about Viet Laos and Campbell's, man. Legal or illegal, we get that paper. Money is money. Hey, his name is Flip 626. Hey, we let the people talk for themselves. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like I said, man, people come from certain types of situations and certain family situations and certain things and people try to get it out of mud however they can. By the way, I do think in Sydney she does hang out with a lot of Vietz and Filipinos and Southeast Asians. And if you watch her videos, I looked through her videos. Hey, by the way, I'm a fan of her rap. She can kind of flow. Yeah. It's fun. It's better than a lot of Asian rap. She raps about fun and cool stuff. Yeah, it's better than a lot of Asian rappers out there. Well, she's a woman and she gets a rap about women. So it's cool. It sounds good. I actually think that that's why she has such an interesting perspective because no dude would ever break this down because it's just like, I don't even want to think about this as a dude thinking about other dudes too much. But she is, I believe, like LGBT and is a girl in Australia so she's like thinking about it in a different way. Yeah, also I think she hangs around a lot of dudes. So she kind of like observes men from the outside, I guess. Moving on to the last but not least, Andrew, she put Filipinos as the most toxic Asian males and saying that Filipinos really value love and attention from women as they're worth. Right. I think, yeah, I guess, I don't know. What did the comments say? The comments were, hey, guys, like I said, I don't make these stereotypes up. Somebody said, yeah, we're number one. And someone said, yo, man, I carried the whole toxicity train here in Arizona. That was me. And somebody said, hey, man, first place is first place. I can't disagree. Which Asian is the most toxic? Vietnamese men. Why? Because the majority of Asian boys are men, are Vietnamese men. What ethnicity are you? Japanese. Which Asian is the most toxic? I say, Viet. Why? I'm just past experiences. What ethnicity are you? Chinese. Which Asian is the most toxic? I personally think all men are toxic, but Filipinos and Viet, for sure. Why? I'm Viet, so I've had my fair share of Viet men, them. Filipinos, you too. You break my heart. Oh, some girl said, yeah, I can't disagree. Too many bad experiences with my own kind, which explains why my guy is Japanese. I guess, man, what do you think of the Filipino ranking at number one? I think Filipinos are one of the most least Asian ethnicities in terms of they like to have fun. They like to party, like to be in a little wild. Not necessarily it's a bad thing, but in terms of toxicity and partnership, I feel like you said they really crave love a lot. So if they don't get it, they have to do what they have to to get it, so they go above and beyond. I would say this growing up, and even in probably my later years, the guys who I knew were the best around women or who got the most attention from women or who could talk to win the best of all the Asians were Filipino guys. They were the most suave, they had the most swag. We all know this, this is generally true in most Asian areas, the Filipino guys, they can date like Latina and that's very okay with them as much as dating like other Asians, right? I got a cool Filipino friend and his younger brother is like, I guess not as good looking or as tall, has like, it's not the best looking dude, Andrew. He has like a country white wife. And you know, he doesn't even really care about getting money that much, but I'm saying clearly, even with like limited tools, he's getting attention from women. So it goes to show you what you focus on, oftentimes is what you achieve. Right, so obviously as a Chinese guy, I don't really know if it's Filipino, Korean or Viet or like any of those top three, can they be interchangeable depending on your experiences? So some women are gonna say, oh my gosh, Korean guys are the most toxic. Some women are gonna say Chinese guys are the most toxic because I got done wrong by a couple Chinese guys, right? So it's all gonna be based on your personal experience, but of course, I think we're all basing these hilarious rankings based off of like general cultural traits. I think general pattern, shared characteristics guys. This Hawaiian guy who's a mix of a bunch of different Asians came in the comment section and said, I hate this categorization. It only divides us. Every group has every type of guy in it. So he was kind of coming from the fact that he was a mix of a bunch of different Asians. He didn't like segmenting them out. I understand his sentiment, but obviously the truth is there are predominant patterns, right? People in Seattle eat salmon in LA, they eat tacos in Omaha, Nebraska, they eat steaks in New York, they eat pizza growing up in Seattle, Andrew. I knew some people who did not touch seafood, but that doesn't change the fact that Seattle is known for eating salmon, right? Right, I think there's just a higher percent. We're just talking about percentages here. First of all, I think even if you believe these rankings are true, it doesn't mean that it's not a close race too. Maybe they're only separated by three to 5%, but you could say, all right, well that's the 5%, yeah. I guess is the middle the best because if guys wanna be toxic because that shows some sort of high leverage, even though the misuse of it, you could argue is moral or immoral, is it bad to be on either extreme end of this spectrum? Or is it good? Obviously a lot of the Filipino comments, to be honest, they were kind of happy where they were at because they shows that they got the swag, right? All right, let me just say this and then you guys give your pick. I wouldn't mind being around where the Japanese fall. You're respected. Japanese are respected as a culture, okay? And they're not considered that toxic, I'm cool with that. And then, you know, but they're still kind of cool. Then they're happy, like it seems like it. I guess does it seem like the ability to be toxic also has some correlation with how cool that group is viewed? Yeah, I mean, they probably don't care about that at all. So they probably focus on being, trying to be Japanese, trying to be the best and everything else, right? Right, right. That's their culture. Anyway guys, let us know what you think in the comment section below. It was just a funny video from an Australian TikToker, but some interesting thoughts. Let us know what you think in the comment section below. Let us know what you think of our analysis. Until next time, we're the Hop Hop Boys, we out. Peace.