 Before you reach for that bottle of mouthwash, or yes, even certain toothpaste, consider this. Almost all oral hygiene products on the market today are actually killing off the good bacteria of your oral microbiome. Hey, thanks so much for joining us today. We've been talking off camera and I've gotten to know you a bit. Can you can you share with everybody your background? Because it's fascinating and I think people understanding where you're from, what you went through, your success story, and how you live in the dream or not live in the dream, I think is really important. So go ahead. So thank you for giving me the opportunity, Dr. Kandri. I actually am from New Delhi, India originally. I grew up in a toothbrush manufacturing family. My father and my brothers make toothbrushes for a living, toothbrushes for multinational corporations, including the most famous names in the world. But like any Indian dad, my dad wanted me to study medicine and wanted me to, in India, it's either you got to be an engineer or a doctor or something to kind of be a complete son. So I went to school in India and Russia and things were not really socioeconomically right in Russia. So I moved to the United States and I started Dr. Fresh, the original company which I sold early on in 2012. And I'm a true American dream, living, liver or American, I lived American dream. I knew very quickly that if I want to be successful, I need to innovate and bring my products. So I innovated a lot of products. I had 58 patents in my old company, which I sold. And at that point, I thought at the end of 2010, approximately 2009, while I'd achieved a lot of success, I'd also messed up a lot of my body. I forgot the basic principles of medicine. I was eating a lot of junk food at fast food restaurants. I was working 12, 14 hours, sitting down at my desk, not moving. I was drinking sodas. I thought this is the American way. I kind of got influenced. I left what I grew up with and I kind of overly got overly Americanized, like, you know, how somebody gets into something new and they get, like, overly Americanized. So where I was literally, I'd grown to over 200 pounds. I started on a lot of pharmaceutical medications, almost 14 pills a day, to treat every possible lifestyle disorder you can get at a very early age in life. And I one day woke up and I had a wake-up call, actually, which was an anxiety attack, which the doctor thought, initially, when I went to the ER, that it's a heart attack or something. And I was 39 at that time. And that is when I realized one of my friends, all my friends, all my classmates are doctors, either in America or in India. And he said, hey, do you know the king of Sudan? I said, no, I don't know. He said, if you don't know him, he spent all his life becoming the king. Well, who the hell cares about you? You need to just take care of yourself and go back to your roots. So I actually sold the business. I took a year off and I cleansed my whole body by doing the mindful things. I started eating very mindfully. Whatever I put in my temple is very important. So I want to eat everything. Literally, I was looking through your book and practically, this book is all about an Indian sect called Jain. It's practically the Jain diet where you refute a lot of, even because you don't like tomatoes and you don't like things that grow in the under the ground or something, exactly that diet. And I'm very impressed because that diet has been around for thousands of years. And that's a very special clan that lives for a long life and they have longer lives and they really do a good job in maintaining their system. So I went on kind of like similar kind of diet, basically eating everything in moderation. I believe everything in moderation, including moderation. So that said, I also started doing yoga every day, which, and I learned yoga, I became a certified yoga instructor, double certified in U.S. and NDI. I started really focusing on yoga and walking every day and making sure I live healthy. I lost almost 35, 40 pounds at that point and I literally lost every medication, all 14 pills for quite some time. I just started on one lately, but apart from that, literally lost everything. And I feel everybody can do it if they really focus and make it a point to do it right. And it's a product of choice, not of reason. I know we live in a society where it's a society of abundance because people in certain countries, they don't have abundance. And here we have abundance because whenever we go to Beverly Hills to a restaurant, there's like a menu full of 20 delicious things and you're like, how much can I eat? So it's all about the choice that you make. And once you be mindful of those choices, you start to become better, I feel. I think you said something important that I say all the time, which is a very important point in Ayurvedic medicine, in that this is your temple. And I always say, look, this is the only house you're ever going to live in. This is it. Maybe we'll come back. I'm coming back as one of my dogs if I come back. But you're right, this is the temple. If we spend as much attention, time, money on taking care of this temple, this house that we do taking care of our car, taking care of our clothes, and incidentally you look fabulous today, and our actual house that we live in, it's amazing what can happen if we just put that attention there. Absolutely. It doesn't take a lot of time. It's all about mindfulness. It's just about paying attention. That's all. Yeah. So I think I wanted you to tell that story because it's so important. I mean, you were living the American dream in the best way and the worst way. And it came back to bite you. So good for you to recognize that. And a lot of times it's this one episode that it's almost in addiction, you obviously have to hit rock bottom. I wish your listeners actually don't have to hit the rock bottom and learn from other people's mistake like my mistake and take care of it before they hit the rock bottom because sometimes you never come out of the rock bottom. Not everybody's that lucky. I was that lucky that I could come out of it, but not everybody is. So I would suggest take this with a grain of salt and start doing the right thing today. I mentioned Ayurvedic and you're an Ayurvedic practitioner. I actually don't practice Ayurveda, but I have learned Ayurveda. I've learned yoga and I've learned medicine, your regular Western medicine. But I have learned Ayurveda, but I don't practice on day to day. I'm running a business today. Let's talk about your business because my wife is a huge fan and when she's listening to this and we're going to get into my wife's practice in a second. So tell me about Guru Nanda and the oral microbiome. What's the three pillars that you set up for this? So first for the name Guru Nanda. A lot of people think it's a strange name and so Guru in Indian language, I'm from India, Guru in Indian language means teacher and my name is Puneet Nanda. Puneet means pure. Ananda basically is a bliss. So pure bliss was kind of the meaning of my name. So I call it Guru Nanda was the name of my yoga studio and which I opened after selling the company. I just wanted to selfishly take care of myself more than anything else and I thought if I'm in this business of yoga then I practically will keep doing it teaching others and learning myself and doing myself every day. But then I realized that a lot of young women who were buying essential oils from companies like Dutera and Youngling Living which are multi-level marketing companies which are great products were using them very often and successfully and one of the oils actually changed my thought about it because I wasn't initially a believer because I always believed in western science. But then I oregano oil because I used to have a lot of allergies I was sneeze 50 to 100 times a day that oregano oil changed my view about essential oils and that is when I literally got inspired by the supplies how the supply system works from farm to bottle and I replicated that supply system but for retail where I cut out all the middleman and my whole idea was I made my American Ream come through with my first company sale. I want to do something for people so that I can bridge the gap. Everything I do today is to bridge the gap. I want to bring whole food kind of products to a smaller discount store like a Dollar Tree or a Big Lots or a Walmart of the world so that I can reach the masses with natural high quality products because most of the people who actually sell really high quality products sell them at Whole Foods. They never and they mark them at 90% or like literally triple the prices versus then there are a lot of products that call themselves coconut oil but if you look on the label behind the first ingredient is mineral oil. There is and if you read the whole thing the last ingredient on the list is coconut oil so practically they are selling and but they're calling it coconut oil then there's a lot of air freshener cans that you look at big stores even big stores and they say with made with essential oils. You put it under a GC test, gas chromatography test, there is 0.1% real essential oils. All they do is they're using chemicals all sort of chemicals that some of them fall under carcinogenic list even and putting a drop of essential oil and calling them essential oils so that is what is going on it's a marketing gimmick so people need to be aware either you are in this camp or you're in this camp you can have fragrance product and one ingredient being essential oil and then there are certain companies were selling online that just write everything fake so it's very hard because there is no particular monogram so it's very hard to differentiate between the companies which is making a lot of people not be happy with some of the products that there are in the market. Well you know we've never talked about essential oils on my podcast and a lot of my listeners may not certainly have heard of them but may not know okay what the what the heck do you do with them do you smell them do you put a drop on your forehead to relieve your migraine do you put it under your tongue do you drink a bottle of essential oil how did you use oil oregano and I'm a big fan of oil oregano the real stuff how did you use it and to turn around your allergies. So I actually would tell you I was in Greece at a distillery and I was in a business meeting I had forgotten all my regimen of steroids and claritins of the world and I wouldn't say names I've forgotten the regimen of steroids and citrasein dihydrochloride kind of brand name products and I realized I was sneezing like crazy 100 times in that distillery and that old man 94 year old guy walked up to me and said you're in bad shape he was the dad of that distiller and he said what if I gave you a couple of drops of oregano oil and he put a few drops of couple of drops of oregano oil in a 16 ounce bottle shook it up and gave it to me and told me to chuck the whole thing in I said okay I did it afternoon I did it again and when we went out to dinner I did back again next day morning I was going to take medication but I literally forgot because I did not sneeze and I was like shocked I said how in the world could this happen because I'd gone to every major doctors and cedars UCLA male and nothing was helping me and and this was all gone and I thought this could be a fluke so I tried it a few times and anytime I would get that bout of sneezing I'd do that and it would go away so it may not work for everybody I think essential oils is not a pure science it's like our four or five fingers are not the same nothing is going to work for every everybody so you have to hit and try number one number two you shouldn't drink oils like I did because that's that could harm your kidneys and liver and even if you are doing it you have to do it on oils like which are already something that you put like oregano you put on your pizza peppermint you actually eat peppermint chewing gum or something like that so you know that these are okay but then there are certain oils like that you never ingest or never take because they have they are not that they could poison your they could harm your liver really bad or you harm harm your kidney so ingestion is something I don't promote using it on skin so these oils essential oils have a very they are more vapor oils they are volatile components basically and these volatile components if they are added to a carrier oil a fatty oil you can use it on skin if the dilution is at least no more than between two to five percent so if two to five percent of essential oil is mixed with a fatty oil like olive oil which you you look like a love I've seen in in your book that is a great carrier oil use olive oil add a couple of drops of let's say a lavender oil and rub it on your temples your feet before you sleep at night and if you do it for another 21 days minimum use some olive oil add five percent lavender rub it on your feet you'll have a great night sleep and you'll see that within 21 days your sleep cycle will start to improve by at least about 15 minutes to an hour and I have experienced it myself and these oils have been tested if you look at lavender the main three components are linalool, linalyle acetate and levindula acetate and linalool has been used in a lot of actual medications to actually get get you distressed and get you better sleep and stuff like that so they extract parts of the biocomponents of the oil and use it everywhere same with peppermint peppermint has menthol in it and menthol is being used in your tiger bombs of the world and your other things of that that actually give you hot and icy hearts of the world so all these components is where all these essential oils is where some of these biocomponents are extracted isolated and used so that the companies can actually use to make a specific product so that they can actually mark it up interesting all right so that's essential oils thank you for explaining that now let's talk about the oral microbiome which we kind of introduce this podcast with most people who follow my podcast know how important our gut microbiome I in my books talk about the holo biome which is not just the gut microbiome but the oral microbiome the skin microbiome and most of us know I hope that we actually have a microbiome that floats around us in in space and that one kind of fun thing is that there's a theory that I like that personal space is where my holo biome meets your holo biome and that's the spot that we interact I absolutely think you're on to something right because number one when you look at it microbiomes are what actually are your fighter cells for fighter products fight fighters for you microbiomes are your fighters yep and and as you focus on gut the gut really starts from your mouth because every the digestive system starts here because you start salivating you start actually digestion right here so if your mouth if you're using like in the 70s there was a mouthwash that came out with a tag line saying if you don't burn it doesn't work so a lot of people who were in the world war two era grown up gone to the military schools they thought they're going to be macho man or macho woman by using something that is going to burn so and then no pain no gain was the main thing so in India there was one one toothbrush company that had come out with a slogan where they said if you don't bleed that means you're not taking off the bad germs out of your mouth so they were unscriptures kind of things going on early in the day then there's another company that saw an opportunity came out with a sitile premium chloride product cpc they call it and sitile premium chloride is another antimicrobial agent so they came out with a tag line saying all the benefits without the burn but both of the things did the same 99.9% of the bacteria was eradicated now it's almost like let's say if you had four bad guys in Los Angeles you go and bomb entire Los Angeles and nuke it all out you'll get kill a lot of talent also and 98% of the bacteria in the mouth are good bacteria it's just a couple of point bacteria that are not good like certain bacteria like streptococcus mutants the bacteria that actually actually cause cavities they also keep in check if your good bacteria is around means otherwise they'll have a field so having a healthy microbiome is like having a healthy society so keeping the bad guys handcuffed in jails and keeping the good guys flourishing that's what a good society does and that's what you need to do with healthy microbiomes all right so the question is how do you keep the healthy guys happy what what do you do so first of all don't kill them good advice so whenever you go and kill the good guys there'll be bad guys one is equal to 10 good guys so they'll start to rule that's how it works in the world and what I would do is don't kill the everything in vicinity by when I talk about oil pulling oil pulling has been around for hundreds and thousands of years in Indian Ayurveda and what oil pulling does is it actually oil by inherent nature goes and seeps everywhere and our bacteria mostly as a way to protect themselves like as humans we form our own hearts and we live behind the heart if there is a storm we go inside the heart something like that and bad bacteria they keep forming biofilms and they tend to live behind them biofilm on top of biofilm on top of biofilm is black and when you wake up in the morning let's say you take a little dry brushes experiment don't do it every day but as experiment wet it and when you take off the just brush it dry you'll see that white sticky substance come out that's black now imagine if you did not have a good coral hygiene and you mechanically don't remove it because you're not brushing what would happen you you would actually have calcified plaque which becomes starter and then you'll have to go to a dentist clinic and get the cleaning done and literally remove break all the plaque because behind the plaque is residing maybe the streptococcus mutant that is going to go and form cavities now you have to go to a dentist where he has to drill and bill you and and in case you're you're taking care of good hygiene I don't want dentists out of business because there's nothing that replaces them it is very important to get yourself checked up but what what I mean to say is a healthy hygiene in your mouth leads to a healthy body overall and I think if you're not taking of your mouth you're not taking care of your entire body because this is where everything begins no you're right in fact you can you can really expand on that Dr. Dale Brattison who wrote the end of Alzheimer's and I become good friends and you know he and others are convinced that one of the many causes of dementia in Alzheimer's is the mouth has has got a direct shot to the brain it's really only you know an inch away and that these mouth flora the bad guys have access to the brain and it's this access that causes this now you mentioned that these bacteria form biofilms and actually make huts I actually call them igloos because there is some evidence that some of these oral flora get into our blood stream and that when people get a coronary calcium scan of their coronary arteries though there's only really two things that can make calcium in our body one are bone making cells and the other is actually the bacteria in our mouth that form tartar that's calcium and there's an interesting theory that I like that these bacteria the calcium that we see in the blood vessels are actually these biofilms that are calcified they're little igloos to protect these bacteria and there's one interesting study where people were given a mild antibiotic tetracycline for six months along with some other nutritional support and there was a dramatic reversal of the coronary calcium in their blood vessels the study's only been done once but I think your point like applaud is that there is so much important stuff going on in our mouth and we just neglect it so three kind of major mouth washes are there one with alcohol in the market there's one with sitial premium chloride then the third one most famous one is with sodium fluoride and what the oil pulling is very different it's a pre brush regimen it's not post brush for post brushing I've actually made a product called concentrated mouthwash and this is more about sustainability and natural essential oils and I'll come to that but what oil pulling does is when you're oil pulling you're actually seeping in between the biofilms you're loosening them up when you loosen up the biofilms and when you brush with them you can actually eradicate all those biofilms in a much better way now when the electric toothbrushes became popular the reason was because your own saliva was being used as micro bullets to go and mechanically injure the biofilms so that the biofilms are loosened up and they can be removed better and with oil pulling you're practically doing the same thing with more subtle way and so the reason oil pulling name came in existence is because they basically pull all the bad bacteria behind the biofilms and loosen up the biofilms so you can flush out their living spaces so that you can have a way for healthy microbiome to exist and with this oil pulling since it has the bases could be coconut oil or sesame oil we have one with coconut oil base which is a little bit more Americanized version because it tastes a lot better but then there is this Ayurvedic version which is the advanced oil pulling or the original one so these are with sesame oil in them and this is how it was written in the Ayurvedic text and this has a little bit more not just oral health it is also supposed to help detox your your entire body and there is a science behind it because according to Ayurveda the body works on pure system pure system as P for perspiration U for urination R for respiration and E for excretion whatever you take out through excretion most of your majority of your toxins in your body that you're eating preservatives all day long your body is very smart it's going to take it out and that's excretion urination is another quick way you eat like bunch load of I saw one women eating like 13 vitamins in the morning 13 in the afternoon 13 at night she is being very expensive P because and now that's not required to put in your also sometimes overloading your essential organs like kidney and urination is another one and then respiration is when you sweat you go and eat sauna you kind of detox your body that's your body's way to respire or if you go to a gym you sweat it out that's your body's way to get rid of your toxins and you the last one is respiration which is when you breathe the deep breathe that's all about yoga when you deep breathe your oxygen actually goes all the way to your peripheries of your body your hands your feet and your oxygen and there are ways called pranayama where when you deep breathe in certain ways it actually the oxygen permeates your cell membrane goes into cell metabolic activity takes place and the carbon dioxide is spit out so cell repair starts to take place at the peripheries of the body by deep breathing and you detox when you metabolize better so your metabolic activity increases so deep breathing is another thing people may and this is probably the most underrated thing in the world because if you deep breathe simple deep breathing if you deep breathe every day very cautiously you're actually increasing your metabolism you're actually improving your health subconsciously so with coming back to oil pulling I will tell you some incidents of my own so in 2012 when I'd sold my company as going to India I was having an infection on my tooth and the doctors gave me antibiotics he said you need to get the inflammation down and that's your x-rays don't look good maybe we might have to when you come back from your trip we might have to do a root canal on it and I was like petrified because it means I said okay means he's a very good friend of mine actually and I said okay and I went to India to this yoga ashram and I was learning Ayurveda and this main head of the place he said I told him I have this problem and if it erupts back there's no dental office in vicinity for 50-100 miles so what would happen he put me on oil pulling which has been traditionally been used in Ayurveda and I was like it felt yucky and I said well I can't take the oil in my mouth but I did it because it was the part of the whole routine I started doing it started doing it it took me about a month literally to get used to it I started it with 30 seconds then a minute then two minutes and slowly I started to enjoy it and after about a month and it's been over 10 years now I don't pull every day but I pull at least four days three four days a week I pull during my shower time and I think this is one thing till now I have zero root canals and I've been able to sustain that tooth that was really in a bad shape up till now I hope I can keep sustaining it and simultaneously I've had no other major issues in the mouth which when I'm 55 so I'm basically being able to preserve pretty much something that I wish I would have started it when I was 20 and I would have been on the same kind of regimen I started pretty late in life but still it's been of great preventive help help to for my dental help so how long do you do it so I personally do oil pulling on Saturday and Sunday for about 10 minutes a day on normal days in the morning I do it for the shower time my shower time could be anywhere from three to six minutes and I do it for the time of the shower and I do it most days but since we came out with this amazing product this is one of my favorite inventions of all time yeah yes the reason I call it is because number one in big bottles of mouthwash you have you won't realize it's basically your transporting water all across the country because in this big bottle of mouthwash if it is a cpc mouthwash 98% of the ingredient is water aqua nothing so it's basically your transporting water now when you add water to all the stuff you have to add a very robust preservative system because water can catch fungus water can catch other problems if you are not preserving preserving it really nice so what you have to do is you have to add a lot of preservatives but as you know in the mouth if you're adding if you're using a mouthwash number one it's anti-microbial which is okay once in a while but then apart from that you're adding in so many other chemicals that are there to preserve that water-based mouthwash so we came up with this product it it has got very simple ingredients and very simple preservative it's less than one percent alcohol and the the most of the product is essential oil based so the number one essential oils are for keeping your well-being of your breath so peppermint oil the real peppermint because a lot of people in especially even the big companies overseas are using fake peppermint synthetic peppermint to actually normalize the taste and normalize standardize the production because peppermint oil is crop-based synthetic one is not so but in here it's the real peppermint oil farm to table and spearmint oil cardamom oil fennel oil cardamom is used in Indian tea and fennel is after Indian food you eat it to keep your digestive system and your breath in check and then there is tea tree oil that we bring from Australia or from South Africa which is the Australian variety too we have clove oil clove has been used by Indian dentists for years to ensure this was almost like a in days when you did not have lidocaine and benzocaine and all that stuff clove was the product of choice for a lot of dentists oregano oil which I absolutely am in love with and but we put it very micro dosing because small is big when it comes to essential oils people don't realize one drop of essential oil let's say one drop of peppermint oil is equal to 28 cups of peppermint tea because we use 4,000 kilos of rose petals to create one kilo of rose oil the real rose oil is close to 15 to 20 thousand dollars a kilo versus you go and find the rose oil on certain major website that everybody uses for 20 bucks that's all fragrance it's not this rose essential oil interesting right so then we have also added vitamin d e and k2 in this apart from all these essential oils there's one more product which I literally very heavily believe it's it's something called jasmine oil now why would jasmine do anything with dental because jasmine is the best possible product to keeping your minds calm and it is also a little bit of a effrodacea truthfully because jasmine oil in older days women used to wear jasmine flowers and they're on their hair so that for the first night so the men get aroused by it now what does it have to do with it that little product which is in micro dose here is probably more extensive than the whole bottle but you'll have a feel good feeling after using it that you'll never have and when you use this essential oil a base mouthwash you put a few drops four or five drops in a cup that comes along with it and add some water and gargle with it a swish it all around your mouth it's almost like oil pulling in a way but not really because it has water to it and it doesn't do the exact same job as this but what these essential oils because of their inherent property of being kind of being used by your body as a plant food so they're not enemies of the body but simultaneously because of their inherent antimicrobial properties they go and abstain the bad guys from growing further while not harming the good guys and that is how the whole process was developed but I personally think this is unbelievable product is brand new we've put it in Walmart retail stores maybe too early for going to Walmart I should have gone to Whole Foods and other places the reason I went to Walmart is because I am not bothered about making money my main thing is how do I get to the masses how do I get the best product to the masses and bridge the gap so that's my whole thesis of being and then with this product it's oil pulling which also has the the more robust version also has all these essential oils alongside the coconut oil yeah so it helps well my you know my my wife Penny is is a skeptic about most things that I bring home people send me lots of things to try and you have advertised on our product podcast so I brought some of this home and she said okay you know I'm going to try that and she is such a huge fan she does this almost every day and she will do it up to 20 minutes at a time and yesterday we were talking about this because she knew you were going to be on the show and she said I used to have to get my teeth whitened and you know you get those trays and everything and she said and she opens her mouth look at my teeth and I mean they're pearly gorgeous she hasn't had teeth whitening I don't know five years and then she said let me see your teeth and my teeth are not pearly white even though I went to the dentist for cleaning about three weeks ago and she said that's what that's doing so there's a you know thank you so much she's a huge fan and I can tell you at least one person you what do you say she can back up with I'm looking at your teeth actually your teeth have very tight contacts oh yes I while looking at your teeth so because they are so tight you probably will benefit from it the most because a lot of people don't realize when they have tight contacts they don't it's hard to for them to floss correct and there is nothing that I always profess that and this is the old saying but I'm I always profess that you only floss the teeth you want to keep and oil is probably this a cocoment or one of the more advanced versions if you can get used to the taste is probably the best thing for somebody with tight contacts like yourself now I don't know if you know that only when I started working in this industry 28 years ago only 11 percent of America flossed right now that has grown because earlier it used to be the spool floss then came the floss pick in the late 90s in the early 90s and after floss pick came the soft pick where you could grow between your teeth because there's a plastic covered with like soft rubber and then they came the water flossers became cheaper so more affordable for people to use it I actually would tell you if you use this concentrated mouthwash in your portable water flosser or water flosser add a full three ml like one ml of it into your water flosser and floss with it you will feel like you had a car wash of your entire mouth you would feel like a million bucks I promise you that this is an unbelievable product for that particular reason and I have been doing that and I have personally become the biggest fan of my own product yeah yes so it is unbelievable another thing I've been doing since I actually got in touch with you so I am a big proponent of having a healthy microbiome like yourself so actually I ordered one product of yours the probiotic product because I wanted to order one and see what is your products like and I'd heard of your podcast and I'd heard you at several instances but never really fully paid attention unfortunately and I when I ordered these probiotics I actually have been using that probiotic I take out one capsule I open it up and actually use it in the oil pull while I'm oil pulling on a Saturday or Sunday it still gives me a little bit more time or actually I've been using it while doing the concentrated mouthwash now why do I use your product because it's in a capsule format so whenever there are pressed tablets of probiotics they may write a billion bacteria available the good bacteria available but by the time they heat press it most of it is done and at the end when you check it there is nothing left at the end of the shelf life so I think that's a very good way to add probiotics to your regimen too well thanks for the plug we appreciate it yeah you know years ago one of our one of our early products was actually an oral microbiome little chew tab and I would I was that impressed that we needed to work on the oral microbiome but unfortunately no one bought it because no one really thinks about you're right this is where it all starts this is where the microbiome starts so folks this guy has been mr. doctor mouth for his entire life his family started in the mouth he started in the mouth and you know it's just great to have really someone who's devoted his entire career to the mouth here I was reading on McDonald's over a billion burgers sold I've actually between me and my family was sold over a billion toothbrushes a billion over a billion that's that's a lot of toothbrushes toothbrushing really is is kind of only the start is what I'm hearing from you so toothbrushing there's a four brush a four part regimen that I profess first is oil pulling and after oil pulling it's brushing with a pea-sized toothpaste and after that it is flossing and flossing could be with a water flosser or it could be with either of the flossing techniques that I talked to you were spool floss and if you do it spool floss you have to get into the gum line a little bit make sure you're actually using it to clean up your the bad bacteria between the gum and the mammal the teeth and the gums so that is very important and then after that cooling it off with concentrated mouthwash which is this product that actually works overnight to help you fight all the bad stuff this oil pulling product comes with a tongue scraper inside for free and this is a very old Indian Ayurvedic technique where you scrape your tongue so that you get rid of the plaque on your tongue the reason that is important is because plaque formation is not just on the mammal of the gums it is also on your tongue and by this you are mechanically removing that extra plaque while you are actually exposing your taste buds so that when you taste when you eat your food your food eating habits can change because now you can signal to your brain better if your taste buds are around that okay I'm full stop don't eat more and then you taste the taste the food better your salivary system works better so your digestion actually improves this is a this is mechanically actually helping your entire gut microbiome as well by actually doing tongue scraping I I know a lot of people means I was on a TV show once and the woman thought this is some kind of a soda water yeah it's a bottle opener but it is actually it comes free with it I'm giving it free just because I want you to do it use it it's not about money making here it's all about how do I get the right dental hygiene to the people the I'm American brain come true as an entrepreneur and I want to give back by bringing good products to the people who can't afford it thank you appreciate that one last thing sesame oil you mentioned it has a you know strong arubatic tradition of healing and in my last book it turns out that sesame oil is actually one of the best oils to prevent these pieces of bacteria from getting through the ball wall called LPS is lipopolysaccharides and there's human studies that show two tablespoons of sesame oil per day actually dramatically lowers blood pressure in people who have high blood pressure so that you know so much of these traditional wisdom we now have available tools to study why the traditional wisdom was correct nobody knew why it worked back then they didn't have scientific data but they used it for ages generation to generation and India is fortunately a four five thousand plus years old society been around a while yeah and sesame oil if you look at Japan and India are the two countries that use sesame oil the most and sesame oil I agree with you but with oil pulling in their sesame oil has an inherent property of actually because it's fatty how our bodies work is whenever you're eating processed food for example it is going and it is being going through your lymphatic system it should but when your lymphatic system is overloaded the all the bad stuff the all the toxins they get stored in your warehouse of your body which is your fat cells so you become it becomes toxic fat so under your tongue it's it's almost like a mechanism where you can pull you can actually use the sesame oil and there is a doctor called Dr. Kulreat Chaudhary who's a neurologist and an Ayurvedic physician combined in San Diego she talked she has done some work on it and she's talked about how sesame oil alongside some of these products are actually helpful by bringing out all the toxins from those fat cells out while you're doing so whatever you collect in your mouth after 10 15 minutes has a lot of toxins out of your body as you do it slowly so that's another belief system in Ayurveda not as much studied but that's traditional when it comes to brushing I do want to talk one quick thing I've come up with a very unique brush it's like butter on your gums because the number one problem with brushing has been people brush too hard and as we age gum recession takes place and with this last two three years of subconscious stress people don't realize they're actually brushing harder than normal and the gum recession activity I have a lot of dentists friend I have a 28 000 roller decks of dentists and I have seen most of the dentists have seen number one people didn't go to a dentist for a year number two gum recession has been inherent because of the extra subconscious stress and because they've been brushing harder than normal so I came up with these special results that are like butter to your gums and they are very special more amazing episodes just like this one watch now human beings actually shrunk about a foot over 2 000 years when they started eating whole grain bread