 The David Feldman radio program is made possible by listeners like you you sad pathetic humps Remember how they would always come on. That's a good name for a band Patricia Heaton's abortion. Oh, I say That's like that's a running joke with me. If I hear a funny turn of phrase. I always say that's that's the name of my band I'm in an emo band called an emo band called Whenever I hear I'll say I'll probably make that joke twice in this by I think this is are we rolling yet? It's like what's the frequency Kenneth, but it's are we rolling yet, Alex? Do you know the origin of what's the frequency Kenneth? No, so it was something with Dan rather, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, he was beaten up by Muggers in an alleyway on Park Avenue. Yeah, because it was he was using too many colloquial phrases Put a pin in it Stop hurting me wait, so he randomly shouted that out, right? Stop hurting me. I love Dan rather No, they were screaming. What's the frequency Kenneth while they were punching him and then Michael Stipe from REM Or as I call them the rapid eye movements Yeah, love the rapid eye move. I love the I love Anyway, what's the kid? What's the frequency Kenneth? He was being beaten up and the mugger kept screaming What's the frequency Kenneth? It's a very weird thing, which means, you know, what does that mean? But here, you know, can you imagine being poor Dan rather the anchor man of the CBS evening news? Yeah, it's a shame it wasn't Tom Brokow because then we could all do the voice. Oh Her joining us that is Andrew Goldstein and That would be our Andrew Goldstein and Kristen buckles Kristen buckles is a writer-producer comedian She co-produced. Oh, hello. Oh, hello Broadway off-Broadway. I should say with Mr. Mulaney Nickroll and Nick Kroll and my daughter has seen that five times. I've seen it twice It's supposed to be absolutely. Is that the Cherry Lane Theater? Oh, I mean the off-Broadway version was the Cherry Lane Theater and then the Broadway It's now on Broadway the Lyceum it closes January 22nd, and it's gotten great reviews. Yeah. Yeah, and You also were the associate producer of New York story, which is on Netflix right now Colin and you're gonna be at Union Hall on the Bell House in Brooklyn next year With your new show called late night period. Mm-hmm So that's exciting and you're a very funny smart person. Thank you so much and Also with us is a very funny smart Person or Jews, let's just call him a smart you go Jew first. Okay to be fair I'm David Friedman is a bankruptcy attorney And he's gonna be the new ambassador to Israel and the Trump administration. I hear he's a great guy Welcome David Friedman the hey, you have called Jews who want a two-state solution Kapos people who have just Collaborated with the Nazis in the concentration. No Andrew Goldstein is a writer-producer showrunner He started off as an NBC page. He's gone on to work with MTV guy code Kyke Guy code no guy co insurance. I just saved 15 Percent guy code that whole universe of TV shows. Yes He hosts a podcast here at showbriestudios with Matt Goldich who writes for a late night with Seth Meyers It's called sorry. I've been so busy people should download it How can people download just find it on iTunes? I'm sorry. I've been so busy Yeah, and if you follow me on Twitter at and gold and g e g ld I tweet about it all the time Matt does as well at Mac Goldich on Twitter no tea in there And you don't have a podcast yet. I don't have a podcast yet. Is that something I'm supposed to do I thought everybody has everybody has a podcast. Yes, okay. Maybe I'll think of a title while we're here today And I'll start that WWE. Yeah, I did that in 2006. I wrote professional wrestling Even though does you meet Linda McMahon? I did join the Trump administration She wasn't very present But I did meet her and I did find her to be sort of the only level-headed McMahon Because Vince is a bit of a sociopath In the best possible way is a creative genius. It's an absolute genius, but he's also a raving lunatic Brain damage from because I would think he's taken a couple hits. They all have yeah the son this son Shane McMahon just wrestled at their last pay-per-view and got a very serious concussion He had to be stretchered out in it in a real reals for real not a not a storyline concussion a real concussion They're out of Connecticut. They are Stanford Connecticut. If you drive up 95 you pass it right? So Linda McMahon ran for Senate in Connecticut. She's since joined the Trump administration He was a wrestler Trump. He went into the ring. He has had a few dalliances in the WWE. He Tee famously WrestleMania I forget the number, but it was the WrestleMania when I was there. So 2007 the WrestleMania in he was on a team with a wrestler named Bobby Lashley versus Vince McMahon and a wrestler named umaga and they wrestled and the winner was gonna shave the loser's head and So team Trump won and Donald Trump shaved Vince McMahon's head in the center of the ring. Okay, so Do you watch WWE? I don't watch it But I know I know of it because I was I was with the associate producer on the Chris Gethard show last season And we had X-Pac And Rhino on to do a wrestling segment for that's a no, right now. Well, cool Big podcaster very very prolific podcaster. Yeah, and I met I met X-Pac working on race wars with charade and But I wanted to tell you that He president president elect Trump will be our only President who was also a WWE Hall of Famer? He's in the Hall of Fame. Well, thank goodness. What is it like to write for the WWE? What do you have to come up with scenarios? You know, you don't come up with the moves You come up with yeah So the writing team is comprised of nerds like me and then also former professional wrestlers And so we come up with like the stories and the characters and then and the story arcs And then all the physicality and how the matches go and all that kind of stuff is booked by the team of professional Wrestlers, so when I was there, I was like in a writer to sign a confidentiality room Yeah, but it's been 10 years and I I rent and rave all about their current. Are you saying that these matches are fixed It's like No, it's completely real David. So you'll come in to work. And though they're gonna say We say hey, we got We have a pay-per-view on Sunday. Here's the rundown of matches. Okay. How how is David Feldman versus? Greg Fitzsimmons gonna Finish what's the finish of the match and then you go to the agent that the former wrestler and they will say well Here's how we see it. Here's basically what's what they have an agent They're called agents. It's the former wrestlers who booked the physicality. What do you mean they booked the physical? So they'll say you're 30 minutes in You're gonna hit Greg Fitzsimmons in the balls and then knock into the referee and the referee is gonna be out cold And then Greg's gonna grab a chair from outside and hit you over the head and right as the referee is coming to You know getting his marbles about him. You're gonna. He's you're gonna get pinned one two three Like they'll come up with the finish and the job of the writer is to do what we put that match together We said we put you and Greg in a in a long you know Back and forth feud for a month Where he's getting the best of you one week then you're getting the best of him the other the next week and and you give them lines You give them lines you're they cut what are called promos so backstage on the microphone in them in the ring We're coming up with sort of the with the story arc and all the things that they're saying It's much more scripted now that it used to be used to be a lot off the cuff Are they using teleprompter? No memorize they they are given Sometimes they're given full scripted paragraphs, but a lot of times it's just bullet points You need to hit. This is the pay-per-view here. Here's what it is. Here's the location Here's sort of the the theme of what we want you to say a wrestler succeeds on the WWE if He's able to both wrestle and and most times and being important that you have to be able to talk You have to be able to connect with the audience There are millions of wrestlers who are incredible in the ring You have to be able to like cut the promo which is what they say the promo is more or as important as the actual match Yeah, because you because you become emotionally invested with the wrestler through the promo hundred percent and how long do the promos last? I mean, you know, there are back there What there are backstage vignettes which are more sort of like teleplays like back and forth like I'm arguing with you And we're fighting over this girl and you know, I throw a drink in your face Etc. Etc. But then there are interviews that turn into sort of that are all sort of scripted If I turn on wrestling, which I have it's scripted animosity, right? So if I turn on if I turn on wrestling And I just see two guys going at it and I don't understand that that's a different channel On your cable Also scripted animosity. Oh, yeah If I don't understand the backstory You can figure it out, but you don't appreciate it as much If you don't understand, honestly, it's like watching days of our lives Now I've been told because I'm not a big sports fan Kristen buckles Although when my kids Played little league or soccer. I was Totally engaged because I knew the backstory and somebody said to me in order to appreciate Football you need to know who the player is the wife. He murdered What casino they were in when he punched her in the face But if you're just watching the technical aspect of a football game You're not going to appreciate it without understanding the story. So with wwe that's what they've they zeroed in on bats Yeah, well what I would I always say in other words, there would be no interest in WWE if it was just you'd watch well, it'd be it'd be like a gymnastic endeavor You'd be watching Olympic gymnastics and a limp, you know Olympic gymnastics is it'd be in a way more interesting. It's like Olympic gymnastics slash Greco Roman wrestling That's what you'd be watching, but you have to care about these you have to care about the plots You have to care about the plot and who hates who and who's sleeping with who and who you know got a you know A cheap victory over the other person just like football a Patriots cults game Sure, that's interesting, but it's way more interesting when you know the history between Peyton Manning and Tom Brady right any Buddy actually believe this stuff is real kids and Some Trump kids and Trump supporters and backwoods Trump supporters. Were you surprised? Did you travel with the WWE? Yeah, we're you surprised on the road for a whole year fluent Vince McMahon's corporate jet. Wow That's all deal. What an interesting god damn it That's he starts every sentence with god damn it. Were you surprised by the adults who think it's real? Everybody is is it is the fun that we're all in on this even the no the no adult actually thinks it's real but adults there's massive suspension of disbelief and so The adults who get really into it are Totally cool taking two hours out of their life to to buy you in hook line and sinker into what they're watching in the ring And really get invested in the storylines and they're guaranteed a great match As opposed to most of the T go see Mike Tyson fight. You have no guarantee UFC that's the big problem with UFC you pay all this money to watch this like $90 pay-per-view and the match could be 30 seconds of the first round. It's just a need to the groin and There is an obligation. I know the Muhammad Ali would keep a fighter up a couple of rounds just to get here Here's what I always say because people always say like why'd you stick with it? You're in your 30s like the people use kids usually give it up around 12 13 once they start noticing girls Why'd you stick with it? Why I love it is because you still watch it. Yeah, I still watch it. Why I love it is because Pro wrestling has Cornered the market on the holy shit moment that you might get once or twice a football season if you follow Your favorite team, you know, there's that one great play from the season There's maybe like a handful of like, oh my god get out of your seat moments in a season Whereas every time you watch professional wrestling their whole goal is to Make one of those moments happen like every ten minutes But doesn't it but doesn't it isn't that not as a holy shit of a moment because the holy shit moments in baseball like the Cubs, you know winning the World Series and going into extra innings is genuinely Nail biting we generally don't know what's gonna in you know that it's real time. It's happening right now Well, that was the wrestling, you know, it's wrestling is holy bullshit. Holy bullshit. It's completely It's a great point and you know, they lull you into oh my god. This sucks. This sucks. This is so stupid Why do I waste all three hours on a Monday night watching Monday Night Raw and then? You know, you'll turn it on three weeks later and something incredible will happen I mean, I'm not saying like every night something shit groundbreaking happens But enough happens enough breadcrumbs are left for you to get to the point where you see the like Holy shit, you know, there just was one where Brock Lesnar beat Bill Goldberg who hadn't wrestled in 12 years Bill Goldberg beat Brock. Bill Goldberg is the Jewish wrestler. He is the Jewish wrestler He be not only are his matches fixed but so is his nose and his penis Yeah, so anyway, it is what it is, but did they play they just have they they Go did they play the holy shit does he tell them that he's Jewish? No, it's not like part of his gimmick really but on the classic sketch on the man show back in the day was Hanukkah at the Goldbergs and it was it was you work the man show No, but it was Jimmy and Adam at Bill Goldberg's house and it you know, it was just a series of blackout sketches of You know them being thrown through walls and the dreid old spinning Bill Goldberg loses and he freaks out and so when did you write on? 2006 to for how long for about almost a year. Okay, so it's been ten years Yeah, you saw how the sausage was packed into the Behinds of the other wrestlers you saw the sauce have the sausage was made. Yes, sir And you're still interested in the WWE. Yeah, but I've been a fan since I'm six years And you weren't disillusioned by I was I took some time off, but I get back, you know now I'm like I wish I could be like him. I really do back into it. No, I was never into as a kid I used to watch gorilla monsoon. Yeah Bruno Sam or to talk about this all day and then I did a wrestling special For Fox in San Francisco before you were born and I hung out with Jake the snake Wow and Zeus You know who Zeus is Zeus from no holds barred actor turn wrestler. He's an African-American. Yes, tiny lister Well, what happened was they wanted I hosted this thing. This was before you were born Well, I couldn't have been if it was Zeus and Jake Roberts. Yeah, and It's probably in the 80s. You're the late 80s. I'm alive and they threw me that I said How rough is this and Zeus pick I'll show you how rough it is said Zeus to I to me and he picks me up And he throws me against the wall unprepared like John Stossel Yeah, but I don't stutter and I'm not a libertarian He got choked out It's a major moment wrestling. Yeah, John Stossel and Richard Belzer was able to buy a house and and then obviously on Letterman with the whole Andy Kaufman. That was fake, but I'll go back Okay, so Zeus picked you up Zeus picked me up, and I'm thinking all right house in France like Richard Bell here we go Elzer bought a house you're thinking of your lawyer as he's picking you up, huh? and he throws me against the The wall and like a schmuck I go that's genius. Yeah, that's that looked and sounded like you just broke my neck and Nothing I got yeah, they're very good. They that's nothing and then for a month later I I was black and blue underneath my armpits. Are you serious? Yeah, but he knew I Was just black and blue, but I met these guys. I met these Australian twins whose foreheads were just The bushwhackers Yeah, and Luke and butch. Yeah. Yeah, and what they do is they they get into the ring with razor blades And then they back in the day. They don't do that anymore. They'd cut their forehead Blading yeah, they would blade their ford blades would be in the tape around their fingers, right? And so their foreheads were just just sliced they say it looks like raw like dog meat like raw meat Yeah, why work back you bleed a lot if you that's if you want to fake Like let me give christen some advice if you want to make it look like you've just been punched You cut your forehead. That's where all the blood comes gosh And because it's a it's a very thin layer of skin in front of your skull And so you can nick it and a lot of blood will pour out But so Jake the snakes I'm playing the punchline in Buckhead in Georgia. Yeah, and Jake the snake shows up he's from Stone Mountain and I thought Jake I'm on stage. I figure I'm gonna Didn't had no idea who he was he had no idea who I was I don't think he knew who he was yet What happened to him? Well Long way he had a lot of troubles with drugs and alcohol and he just there's a whole documentary Yeah, about him about him being saved by a fellow wrestler named Diamond Dallas Page who has a yoga program And he sort of revitalized Jake's whole life got him got him off drugs got him healthy got him to lose weight Got him flexible again Had him rehab all his injuries snakes that it was just a gimmick, but now Jake is a comedian He what he does spoken word. He does You know, he has like a traveling one-man show. Go ahead. You're doing great No, the last thing I was gonna say on this topic, which I can't believe we're talking about wrestling is One of those former wrestlers that I worked with in my writer's room was the American Dream Dusty Rhodes The one of the the most famous wrestlers of all time the Hulk the Hulk Hogan before Hulk Hogan and his forehead was very Geographic from all of the blading. Are you serious? Yeah, it looked like there were Like ridges in his forehead. You could see sort of, you know, like the back of so like a fat man skull Do they have CT? CT I have CT. I think you have CT from calling it CT Yes, there is a lot of the concussion Research has been done by a former professional wrestler who had to retire early because of concussions and he Was a guy who went to Harvard and now he is the guy that Started the project where he asks the families of athletes who die Early on that are suspected of having CT. He's the one who asks them for their brains to study them Interesting. Chris Nowitzki is his name. Rogue one. I want to see Rogue. I'm seeing it Monday I saw it last night. I haven't seen it. Are you at Christian? Are you a Star Wars? No, I'm more of a Star Trek fan Yeah, my brother my oldest brother massive Trekkie. Really? Yeah, yeah My dad was into it when I was a kid so I would you know since I can't change the channel my dad's watching TV I would I would watch Star Trek hence why I'm a Yankees fan as well. I went to see Rogue one Really wanting to be a human being I remember, you know, there's certain things when you when you're having it straws here Yeah, when you have sons. Yeah, you you think okay. There are things Like a man must do yeah with his son and and and so I go, okay, we're gonna we're gonna go to Best Buy Look at stuff, you know, just we're gonna just look at you know because that and I remember It was Star Wars came out the trilogy and I took my son to see it and yeah he sat on my lap and And He was like, you know a gape and I'm just thinking What is this? You know, I didn't like it when the first when episode 4 came out in 78 Which turns that episode 1 is episode 4. Yeah, you thought it was the first one, but then you tell you 10 years later It's not the first one and I and everybody, you know, I wait in line to see it and and I'm Watch him going. Yeah Sure. Sure. This is you're not never got me and This thing was on a perpetual loop in our house. My kids just watched Star Wars It was just was always running. Yeah, it was the soundtrack to my life And I thought, okay, I'm a rock srogue one. I'm really gonna I can't keep the character straight I find out it's a you know, it's it, you know, I And then afterwards I'm talking to people and they understand it completely they understand the galaxy the Star Wars galaxy of star It's like I watch Game of Thrones. I can't keep anything straight. I gotta ask a million I gotta go to work the next day and ask people Game of Thrones is what was what who was that guy? I'm constant Yeah, no, I I think you have to be a certain kind of Person to be able to keep all of that straight Okay, I host a I host a radio show with Ralph Nader. Do you know who Ralph Nader? Yeah, Ralph Nader appeared at many WrestleMania's Really? Yes, sir. He was a special guest timekeeper and all kinds of stuff. Ask him about it. When was this? WrestleMania One two or three in the early days like what years? Probably 87 88. He's from Connecticut. Yeah, ask him about it. What years is this? I'm guessing around 87 88 89 87 88 and 89 in that time frame He debt Ralph Nader a hundred percent appeared at a WrestleMania as this as a special guest That's funny because he's like I can't imagine him lending his name to something that you should ask him about his Interactions with the McMahons because I'm sure he had them because they're both from Connecticut That's fascinating. But what he would say and he says it all the time is You get your head wrapped around Star Wars. You're willing to Spend invest all this time and energy trying to understand who these characters are and what their motivation is and what Galaxy they're from and which star are they with the Empire or the Rebellion is that the best use of your time? When the world is falling apart. I would but then he'll watch a baseball game and a football game and No problem. Yeah, do you feel guilty? What are your guilty pleasures Kristen buckles? What do you feel guilty doing? I know you have a van with no windows and candy. That's also true. Yeah, is that a guilty pleasure? They can't the candy is the guilty You don't mind what you do That's just a vessel to get to the candy they like me I Like to go camp candy shopping with the child molester and see like what they pick out if there's like yeah If there's like four thought to be like I don't know about a whatchamacallit I don't think that's attracting kids just you a child molester and Dylan's candy bar. Yeah, like that'd be a great sketch Yeah, sure that would be a great. What do you think of Swedish fish? Those are old school you want to go with the new stuff sour candy chocolate No, you got to get the sour stuff kids like the sour things these days. I don't know. Yeah What about milk duds? They're in a bit to all this messy at mercy. Yeah, the caramel No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you want to go with the hard like you know the sweet fruit stuff. Interesting. Yeah This I would like to do can we set this up? Let's go. This is a good bit Let's go. Let's bring a GoPro and go to Dylan which of the like Codra of child molesters that you know would be best for this bit Your posse my part of what I feel like that's one of those things where it's like you go You have the person you have the GoPro and you have them talk to the staff. Excuse me. Yeah Yeah, you're actually right the way you would do it as a bit. You can't do it on You have to do it Right for you to they would but you go well, it's gonna be in a window was van will it melt Or maybe this is something we can pitch to Ellen. Do you think she'd do it? Yeah, we're in the air She's in the child molesters ear and she's helping him pick Andy back to your original question I have I have started to feel guilty a little bit like when I get home from work now. I Just feel kind of stupid watching putting on ESPN and like pardon the interruption and stuff Like I will put on MSNBC because I feel like especially during the election, but now the elections over I I just feel like I need to be informed and I feel kind of Stupid and I'm wasting time if I'm watching a four-hour football game instead of like, oh my god, Trump Yeah, I don't want to talk about politics. No, I'm a government or issues I want it. We don't have to I'm just saying I do feel there is a As I get older there is a there is a like God I'm spending four hours watching a football game when I could be there are more productive things to be doing Yeah, I think I get I I feel guilty When like I'll sit down to write and it's just like not going well And then I'll like all of a sudden it'll be an hour later and I've been scrolling through Instagram Yeah, and I'm sorry. I mean Twitter is a huge problem for me I said what am I even doing and obviously Twitter is you know ruining the world Which I'm so conflicted about because I love it so much and I'm on it so much Yeah, but I I on the other side of my brain real is like looks at every news story today And nine news stories out of ten are because of Twitter, right because somebody's tweeting something or somebody Founded an old tweet or you know this This person's Twitter is being hacked like every story somehow comes back Twitter now It's I have to take a break. I have to go troll Leslie Jones. It's my It's I have the ship from two to four you do okay great That's what I'm saying every story today if you look I have the two-to-four shift nine out of ten deal with Twitter somehow It's really taking down our art art society. You know what amazes me that that's somebody Relentlessly will troll another human being to the part where it becomes like they get up. I Can't leave today. I Jean Garoffel. I'm Have to be trolled just wonder what their daily process is like like I would just love to like spend a day with these people They what do you do like what like how do you make money? How do you pay rent? Mm-hmm who were your friends? Well, that's where the whole like parents basement narrative comes from But I don't think that's I don't think that's no I think it's you know like like Brenda in Ohio and she's 35 years old and desperately lonely and hates her life Like I don't why have I have an idea I don't know why it needed to be a girl, but let's get a van Want to pitch an idea of the listeners and then I want to ask you about your your Social media diet and what you do. Oh, yeah, when you're because I'm always gluten-free Let me pitch an idea. Okay, but I need the listeners to get behind this so There are these alt-right Trollers who send anti-semitic anti-black things and anti-women stuff If we you know you can buy Twitter followers. I didn't even know that you didn't know that no lots Really, why why would you want to do that? I don't understand because if you want to look more success newt gingrich Ran for president 2012 The minute he had declared his candidacy. He had two million Twitter followers and somebody Went through them and found out that like 90% of them were purchased. Yeah, so like any other political election Yes, great, but you can you don't know that you can buy Twitter followers. No, I didn't know that for $800 You can get like two million Twitter fault. They're all fake dumb to me right Because that because then people go to you and they oh, she has two million followers. You mean something. You're important That makes me nauseous. I'm always amazed at what people What you can get almost makes me think about buying Twitter followers if somebody as smart as you doesn't realize so you would think That I was more popular if I had More Twitter followers, but I want to meet me if I buy them. I want to meet them all of them personally Did you know that you know that you can buy YouTube views you can buy YouTube views. I'm I'm sure I'm Well, hang on for once. Are you serious? No, I'm serious. I honestly didn't know that you could do that Yeah, you can buy I'm making myself look dumb here. No, no, I'm amazed at You there yes, there there are in Vietnam there are little their factories that turn out views like bots Yeah, the Los Angeles time I've talked about this a million times on the show the Los Angeles Times did a Story about this is somebody was running for attorney general No, he was running for DA in Los Angeles and the LA Times didn't understand how a candidate for DA had half a million views on his Video for you know his campaign video. Is that how Tommy Lahren gets all of her views? Who's Tommy Lahren? She works at H&M during the day and then she goes home and makes these videos on Facebook talking about right-wing issues Oh a Trevor Noah interview. Yeah, right. She looks like an H&M. She's counter person Yeah, she does so the LA Times found out that they did an experiment They they literally made a video of paint drawing and For seventy five dollars. They were able to get two hundred thousand views. That's it seventy five dollars. Yeah Yeah, but now they were not real views, but it showed up as real views. That's so weird Yeah, well a lot of this is when they talk about fake news. I want to get back to What we're I want to ask you when they talk about fake news Speak on paint drying this podcast I'm joking when they talk about fake news On Facebook Facebook is a fake Company. Yeah, well, they can't audit they when you advertise on Facebook and you say how many views Did my video get they'll say two hundred Okay, if I work on a television show The Nielsen's will say this show has two million viewers Who's the independent auditor who tells me how many views this Facebook video has? We say it does Right, but you're the company charging us For what I want to advertise on this video that you gave us or I want to advertise on Facebook And you're saying this has this ad has 50,000 views Yeah, where's the independent auditor? We're the independent auditor. Yeah, it's a fake company Yeah, and they and if you Google Assuming you can trust Google Google Facebook Independent auditor, okay, and you will discover that Facebook has been lying about their numbers and there's nobody auditing The numbers so okay, can you imagine an entire multi-billion dollar business built? Where people say It's true because we say it's true these numbers are true because we say we say so now it's now They're bringing in an independent auditor my my wife works in digital marketing in the food space And she took a whole class about where she learned, you know, you can pay Facebook to Target through their algorithm your posts So if you're posting about the David Feldman podcast You can pay X amount of dollars to Facebook and there's a whole list of play things you can list to target you can target Comedians in the New York area comedians in in Los Angeles podcast Companies and those companies it your podcast will start showing up in their sidebar and in their timelines, right? It's all there's a whole algorithmic targeting I did that companies do to get there if you open up a restaurant and you pay the money and you target You know food lovers in the New York area food lovers in the New York area on Facebook are gonna start seeing your restaurant pop up Randomly in your in your feed. I mean the whole thing is I mean they've assuming that's true It is I know I know because I've done it I've taken out ads on Facebook and it is fascinating because you can what you can do is you can say you know what I Just did a podcast with Greg Fitzsimmons. I want to advertise this and Alex you've done it, right? So it says it says who do you want to reach balding? Comey, well, it's what it's based on who it's based on what you've liked in the past So I got out on that one. Do you like Bill Burr? So it says we you want to reach the bill Burr fans, right? There are you know two million Bill Burr fans click that. Yeah, so now your ad is gonna be seen by See, that's all well and good and that's a good business model, but prove it. Yeah, we can't prove it But you'll bill me for it. Yeah, and now independent auditors are supposedly coming in to monitor Facebook's advertising Claims Facebook and Google control something like 50% of all the market share Of digital advertising. I I didn't want to go. I've thought this about Nielsen ratings for years. I've thought this about clicks on All social media. I thought this about I think this about polling We saw in the election polling with there are lots of holes in that I just hate the idea of like the the idea that like a hundred thousand people Represent seven million people. So what happens among the hundred thousand? These are all arbitrary numbers, but what happened the tendencies of a hundred thousand people Chart the tendencies for 50 million people. I hate that. You get up in the morning, Kristen. What time? Um, this morning I got up late. I got up at 10 30 and do you immediately check your electronic device? Yeah, you're not supposed to no, I know You're under the age of 30. Yep Hence why she woke up at 10 30. You're under the age of 30 Do you know that your electronic devices are Sometimes bad for you. Are you aware of that? Oh hundred percent? I think it's something that actually really bothers me It bothers me that the second I'm like Like feeling uncomfortable or that I'm bored. I just immediately go on Facebook or Instagram and just like scroll I don't even know what I'm looking for and I and I've sort of like started validation Yeah, exactly. I'm so lonely. No, I'm just kidding. But um, I'll just go to like, I don't know I don't know what I'm doing and I just like a hat. It's just a habit. I feel like it's the new smoking It's just like you just immediately it's not even thinking about it. And what apps are you going to just Instagram and Facebook? Okay, Facebook. I think most of my listeners because Facebook is People everybody everybody's on Facebook. Yeah, and Facebook is great. Yeah, but the point I was making is They don't pay their fair share of taxes. I want to get this. I don't want to be political today. I want to keep it light Mm-hmm Facebook doesn't pay their taxes properly the Cheryl What's her name lean in? Samberg Net with Donald Trump last week. Mm-hmm, which was a disgrace I hope she wore a cup when she leaned in I saw your that was a very funny pose, by the way I hope she worked. Lacey appreciated that one which I thought it was disgraceful for Cheryl Sandberg Who writes this book about women how to make it and show show but how to make it? Well, it is how to make it and show Briss Made it sat down and normalize Donald Trump. Yeah, that's fascinating. It's disgraceful. So Facebook has a lot to answer for Yeah Yeah But my listeners use Facebook and I'm they use Twitter even though Twitter nobody understands that no the nomenclature of Twitter What you said you use what Instagram? What is Instagram? It's just photos. It's like a yeah It's like a photo. It's like yeah, it's like a visual but who owns it. I think Twitter owns it I think the same people though. Well, it wasn't depending I got bought by Twitter But yeah, and what's on it? Just photos photos. Yeah, just like pictures here. I'll show you really We're I said Facebook don't show me fail me Facebook has become old person Instagram because if you if you if you scroll Facebook now It's all pictures wrapping your here. Here's what I cannot stand. It's all pictures, but it's it's social media through Visuals. Yeah, so you take a picture you post it and all of your followers see it and they say oh, man David Feldman's having such a cool day Kristen oh, I'm just I'm juice-blaning you're juice-blaning. Yeah, oh, you're Jewish. I am Jewish Drives me crazy. This is due on juice-blaning. This is drives me crazy. What are the voices in my head? Sure, sure sure. Yeah, it's me crazy. It's stop looking at my plugs. Are you are you? Are you thinking getting? Oh, oh, what David? I have eye contact issues. Do you really? Yeah, I used to always get accused of staring at people's foreheads really? Yeah, it's an issue. You're making me self-conscious about my hair. I'm just gonna look at now You can't make eye contact with I have I don't know. I'm like a youngest of three Uncomfortable social you can make eye contact. I'm very good socially, but I have bad eye contact. Okay, okay? I'm working on it. I hate it when I'm talking to somebody and they say let me show you and they whip out their phone I hope like I just did like you just what if they whip out their cock. I Can't do that Sorry, why why can't you I don't understand just care. Okay, so you go to Instagram and where do you get your news from? Facebook You get your news. No, I have to know actually I read the Washington Post and The New York Times I have both those apps on that that sounds good, and I read those in the morning. What do you read? I just whatever like the latest sort of thing is I think I feel very Like my gloopika my gloopika. I've been I've been listening to The best I've been listening to since I came what I've been listening to some of her stuff since the last time I came Tell us who Amy Goodman is I I honestly don't know specific democracy now if you want to know what the news is but I have been listening to her and Culturally like what do you what TV shows are you watching? Um, I mean Game of Thrones was a big one for me What compels you to watch that if you don't understand your pressure. No, you know what? I didn't like my favorite show of all time and well, nothing will ever beat it I feel is breaking bad. I worshipped that show and I love better calls all the spin-off, which is coming back And then but yeah, but you know mean my boyfriend like to find like shows that we can like watch binge watch binge watch together So Game of Thrones is when we started and we we were easily five episodes in and just being like I'm not I can't Do this it's too much and then and then like after the first season. It's so good What is nagging at you every day the thing that you feel you should be doing that you're not writing And what should you be writing anything sketch more stand-up? And when do you? When are you supposed to be writing? I don't have like a set time I think I try to spend like an hour every day working on like monologue and desk jokes And then I do and then I write sketch and I just wrote a pilot with my friend with my partner Lacey I work on stuff like that I'd say I try to write for like three hours a day at least by yourself or with somebody else By myself for at least an hour and then I do and then Lacey and I write together all the time And we'll sit down for just our we will sit down for hours and just write stuff and what do you feel? obligated to do each day to Be part of our culture for that's that's something that's work like the writing thing But what do you feel like? Yeah, I'm not staying up. I'm like I'm not relevant. What do you feel that you have to check and do every day? So you feel part of the culture I think that I try to fight that Urge, but I would say that yeah like checking into Facebook or seeing what's going on on Instagram or seeing like what happened Yeah, I mean I Feel like you need to know what's going on in our culture. Yeah, why I Don't know I think it more I think I try to stay Topically and culturally updated in terms of just making my that I think that makes my writing interesting And I know what people like what are people talking about like what what's going on? What are people you know like what do people find interesting? So you think it's interesting to find out what other people think is interesting Yeah, I wouldn't say that I like that's interesting. I shave Well, that's social media. Uh-huh. I I don't think that I like shape what I'm what I talk about or what I write about around it But I don't you know like there is some when you say Hey, so if something is culturally relevant like rogue one, uh-huh you feel obligated To learn about this. No, I mean I wouldn't say like yeah Like I have zero interest in rogue one, but because it's part of the conversation. You're gonna do what? I I read an article with Felicity It's our name Felicity Jones the lead actress No, yeah, yeah, you know the young British actress. Yeah, the other one. Yeah, it's not Felicity Jones. It's Felicity Huffman. Yeah, it's Jones. I'm January. It's January Jones. Is it Daisy Ridley? No, no, no It's Felicity Jones. It's Margaret. All right, Alex. Okay, so you feel so you're keeping up with the Jones I I like her because I remember she does these Drake Dormuz movies from a while back They were like Sundance films and I really like her specifically So I was interested in it only because I like her as an actress and do you feel That you're being marketed to and manipulated sure absolutely Okay, yeah, and do you want to resist that? Do you feel like because rogue one is George Lucas selling his franchise to Disney right now the whole Disney machine is behind Star Wars and they're gonna be grinding out a Star Wars movie every year. Yeah, I Have zero interest in any of that. I don't care I think that I what I find interesting is I like to go on Facebook to see And I would say hate watch or hate read is the wrong word But there's these publications on Facebook that like that target me because of my age What do you mean publications? Like they're not even publication. I wouldn't even give them the comment Like have you heard? I'm sure you haven't but there's it's a website called. Hello Giggles. Yeah. Yeah, and it's with like It was founded by like Zoe de Chanel. I have no idea who I have no idea if she's even part of it anymore But I know that she founded it was like her and two friends And it's always like, you know, it sounds just adorable enough that it was founded by But it's always like they're the title of the things are always like, you know Jennifer Lawrence's phone went off and you'll never guess but her ringtone was it's just like very buzzfeed Yeah, it's really buzzfeedy and all of the articles but what was her? I don't remember But all of the articles are always just like, you know Amy Schumer went you know went to like Hawaii to go Dolphin watching and it's like everyone else. It's like shut the fuck. Yeah It's very like and I think that it's Annoying because it is like sort of playing to this market of girls that are supposed to be like me That are like that read these are click on it. Yeah I'd absolutely and I think it's this like almost sick like I'm like this is so stupid and then I click on it And I'm like what is this and then I'll read it and it's like two paragraphs that an 11 year old wrote About how they feel, you know, Emma Roberts is or something like that And they literally do they have some of the authors like or the writers of these pieces are 13 It's so bizarre to me and I just don't understand how much of it do you read? I would say that I would like read it like sometimes it'll be like, you know, like the for the rogue one It was like Felicity Jones. It was like Felicity Jones wore the most stellar galactic, you know dress And I'm like, oh cool. I would like maybe her dress looked like really cool So I click on it and then go to look at the photo and it's just like a normal fucking dress It's click bait and do you and you have any discerning taste when it comes to click bait or you just go for it Um, I mean, I feel like there's some of the ones that are just obviously bullshit But some of the ones are just like, yeah, yeah, like that's definitely like a bad habit. It's like so this is interesting to me And I know I sound I don't want to sound pompous and condescending and old More than you already do. Yeah, sure. Sorry, but I'm And I have this nagging Responsibility to read the New York Times the Washington Post and Politico every day. Okay from cover to cover. I never do it, but that's And a magazine That's a lot of reading. Right. I mean to me a good day is New York Times cover to cover or at least the first paragraph of every story in the New York Times, okay then the Washington Post and Then Politico and by the time I'm done with the New York Times I Feel like I'll just skim the Washington Post read the first paragraph But you know, so that's like a three to four hour investment every day. I'm like on my Kindle Reading and then one magazine like the nation or the Economist The Economist all jugs It's all back up the best part is his little scheming smile that was really great thing pieces really great thing pieces Actually, I'm a because I'm a Hollywood creature. I have Assistants who do coverage on my porn. I never actually watched. Yeah, I don't ask if they cover the porn for me Then bring to me. What's good? What's good? What's good? What's out there? Give me a synopsis But so so I never measure up to these Yeah, but that's it to me a perfect day is four hours of reading Then get to the books. I can't so when you say to me you're under the age of 30 and You're just kind of clicking on things and finding things and going Wherever it takes you is that how you do it? It's just whatever Whatever catches your fancy is as opposed to me Saying no the New York Times says I must read this so I will read this because the New York Or New York Times that so so you're is it fair to say because you do speak for your entire generation Is it fair to say that? Your people Don't believe that they have to That they have they don't believe in reading assignments. Is that correct? I definitely don't want to speak for everybody you do But on this platform you are doing so you speak for all people under the age of 30 Um, I I don't I don't know anyone in my age group who makes a point to read the New York Times every day Or anything every day like the Daily Co's or TPM. No, no Or the Huffington Post or a website that they trust That to inform them that they feel obligated well the editors have determined that this is Important we should know this so I am going to scan everything on this website Because these people I entrust these people to find what's important for me. I don't know anyone like that So you're just on your own Negotiating the the dangerous shoals of the internet. I don't even know what that meant, but sounded good I'm really good. Yeah. Yeah, I mean you trust yourself shows of the no You trust your you trust yourself to find out what's important in the world. No, I don't at all I think that I I do make an effort to Look at the Washington Post and look at the New York Times and a lot of the time I'm not trying to put you on the defense. No, I know but I'm telling you like I don't think because I think This is what's happened. Yeah that nobody trusts Institutions to tell them what they should know I guess I just the way I feel is that I don't I genuinely don't know Like what even if I'm even if I'm like, oh, here's an article that the New York Times wrote about You know, I don't like whatever about Trump and some of his cabinet appointments and I'll go to read it But then I just I guess I just don't know what to believe these days And I guess you know because it's just so there's so much You know now that you're finding out that like Russia was involved in all this stuff And it just like what do you what do you mean like what I'm where am I supposed to read? Where am I supposed to go? So Okay, so there's a thing called I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm being serious There's a thing called the CBS evening news with Scott. Oh my god. This is what I was gonna bring up I was home for that. It's already cut you off, but it I was home for Thanksgiving. My brother His house does not have Basic cable he's still operating on he does a lot through his computer Let me hang on what's on the computer what's on the TVs are Where we're from three six and ten NBC ABC CBS and for the four days. I was home for Thanksgiving I watched Local news and and the network nightly news and it was so refreshing and it was like a giant weight off my shoulder Because I was just watching I was just hearing news. I wasn't hearing opinion. I wasn't hearing talking heads I wasn't hearing that you know banter and conjecture I was hearing the news the story the lead and the reporting and then move on to the next story And it was so refreshing and I was like we need that's that to me It was like this huge crystallizing moment of like that's really where we've gone wrong the cable If you took away cable news this opportunity for for just met talking heads to give opinion Everybody to give their opinion and just stuck to the news. We I think we'd be in a better place. Absolutely Yeah, what do you so you're under the age of 30? Mm-hmm. You never grew up when I was your age I had been acclimated accustomed to seven o'clock 630 it's Dan Rather. He's gonna tell us what happened today Peter Jennings Tom Brokaw. I I hundred percent I mean my my dad is an extremely well-read Intelligent man and he I woke up every morning to NPR. I My dad read the newspaper every single morning We'd wake up ID breakfast and he'd read the paper and he'd give me the funnies and then you know And every night my dad had the news on and he you know My dad was always very well informed so I wish I could say that it was a you know Like I never had the news on at my house. Well, that's but that's but your generation might think that he's not well informed But you're saying you don't trust the New York Times. You don't It's not that I don't trust the New York Times is that I don't know how to navigate the New York Times effectively Right. My father actually taught me how to read the New York. I have no idea I was never taught how to read a newspaper. I was never there was no like class or there was no person who like sat down with Me and showed me how to navigate the Washington Post in the New York Times I do my best which is obviously not enough, but right I feel I feel like I just don't know how which is embarrassing to say No, my father. There's a tradition in New York a Certain demo where the father or the mother would sit the child down and say this is the new year I'm serious. This is the New York Times This is how you read it and the way my father taught me how to read the New York Times was I Would unzip my fly and put lotion on my penis sure It's like a yacht You know, that's the thing you hold on the Torah. Yeah, yeah It's a little hand. My father sat me down like when I was 10. He said, okay This is the New York Times. You read the entire front page. Okay. This is what he taught me You're reading tire front page of the New York Times first. That's how you start your day It says continue on page 17. Don't do that read the front page If you make a mental note to then Follow up later if you have time to read, you know the continued. Yeah, then turn turn turn the paper over Everything is dirty with me turn your paper over and Go to the editorials and read all the editorials Because that's what the president of the United States is reading which is true It's a great point. The president of the United States is reading the New York Times editorials So you want to know what the president is reading then Read the op-ed Cuz you'll there's certain columnists So you should read every day in the New York Times were so opposite the editorial page are the columnists who you should read because they make You want to read the news once you if you read this back then it was James Reston and Tom Wicker these were the you would read them and they'd be talking about something and they would make it interesting That would make you want to go back to the front page and read the rest of those stories if you have time Yeah, if you have time, but if you just did that every day You would be incredibly informed now we live in this time. There's so many news outlets and because of that Every there's a judgment on all of these Publications so like you read the New York Times, but I'm so infected with you know Everybody on cable news D saying well the New York Times. That's a liberal publication Like there's all these labels now like if you read the New York Times You're a dirty stinking liberal, you know what the the resentments I've been thinking about this is with David Itzkoff who's the cultural reporter from the New York Times here. I Love he's the one who it's Colin and Jerry. He's so great. Sorry. I love you if you want to hear a great Conversation go to my website David Itzkoff or go to you know podcast our podcast so great an hour with David Itzkoff So I was thinking why do people hate the New York Times? Why do people go after it? Well, I never got a good review in the New York Times Nobody's ever written the story about my podcast in the New York Times. I write jokes. I write funny thoughts I haven't attempted to write an op-ed piece for the New York Times But if I wrote one they'd reject it They gave my some television shows that I've worked on they've given them so-so reviews That's the New York Times Who they who the hell does it they think the New York Times makes me feel stupid. They won't print my My cartoon my cartoon. That's it was a great cartoon The point I'm making is there's resentment yeah towards the New York Times I have resentment towards the New York Times. They've given some shows that I've worked on bad reviews Yeah They were shitty so they were they were garbage and and honestly you can milk them you can work them and you know suck up to them and but People resent. It's the same reason a lot of people resent Ralph Nader They're jealous stupid. They're jealous of Ralph Nader. Yeah, there's just this overall This side's good and this side's bad or this side's bad and this side's good And those the good side has their newspapers and the bad side has their newspapers. It's it's all tea It's all I once again. I've steered the conversation. No, I'm trying not to talk about I want to talk about pop culture But let's start I mean, but that's where my media diet. I there I have all this like what's your favorite show on television Well right now we're watching this is us Tastic show I just finished that I'm gonna win all the Emmys watch. Yeah guys some golden We're watching me. What is this is us? This is us is a network show and B. C. Yeah About three siblings. They were Parents in the 70s gave birth to triplets upon giving birth to the triplets one died and There there was an abandoned African American Infant in the ward and they adopted that the African American child to keep that so they had three So they went home with three babies two of their own in this African American child and they raised them Does the African American know that he's not an original triplet? Yeah, he just he's it's the chappelle He's blind. He has no idea black and so it's it's these jumps in times from the 70s And you see these kids being raised to where they are now and you see all three of their lives It's a really fantastic show and I think it's gonna sort of shift the whole Only the cable and streaming shows win all the awards. I think this is gonna be like the first network What are you addicted? But we're watching the affair. I have a wife now. So we're watching the affair Would you get married October 1st? Okay, this year very recently. Yes, we're getting married. Yeah, where'd you get married in the Hamptons? Oh, wow, I asked the question so you can look at me. Yeah, as David's about to give me some About like taking care of my finances. No, let me give you some when you get the divorce. Yeah David no, no, I'll be just make sure that you're a lawyer and you communicate only via email And get a man to represent you not a woman. It's a cliche. This is the biggest scam going in divorce. What? The man hires a woman As his attorney because It softens him and to have a woman defending the man And I it's a cliche and it's just get a guy get a misogynist Wait, can I ask a serious question? Yeah, Steve bannon. Just get Steve bannon. You know what a guy you're basically this is all a divorces You're just dividing what little money you have. Yeah, so when you get the divorce get a guy You don't need a you know, you're not a wife beater. You're not a rapist You don't you know of you don't need a woman softening your image Just get a tough Steve bannon type to go in there and get yeah, it's the floppy Lee Get your fair share But again everything and and get Hang on for one second Make sure all your communication with your your sociopath lawyer Because they're also divorce attorneys are all sociopaths. So they have to listen to that bullshit all day Make sure all the communication is in writing Right because they will tell you four different stories. You need a paper trail. You need a paper trail. They don't want to Let's talk. Let's talk. Let's talk. Then that costs you that cost me. Just get it and write that cost money When are you when are you getting the divorce are you married in october? We married in october everything's going well. We have a we have a puppy A puppy we have a puppies. He's good. He changed my life. I was never I didn't grow up with pets now. I have a dog and I've I've turned into one of those guys on the street that Oh my god, but if I see a dog I turn into a dog is it he's a He's a mix of all kinds of stuff. We'll share dog photos in a little while. I can't wait Listen, let's talk pop culture because I am a a self-admitted pop culture savant that your conversation you just had I consume Everything because I I have this obsession to be in and I have an obsession to know a little about everything So read because if there is a conversation I need to be able to be in it Um, I read news. I read article. I read articles. I don't read a lot of books sadly Do you feel guilty about that? Uh, not really because I've never been a big Uh, did you grow up with a mother and father who kept screaming at you to turn off the team? No, I was the youngest of three in a in a in a single parent household My father was a large part of my life. He just wasn't in the house. There was no time to make me Read to make me do my homework to make there was no time So I you know tv really raised me. It's the old cliche And uh, there isn't this nagging in the back of your head that there is no nagging to read a book There is the nagging to I need to know I can't be left out of a conversation of if some if somebody's having a conversation about Uh, a tv show even if I don't watch the tv show, I have to know enough that I can survive in the conversations That's just it's my Like in my line of work if I like Perfect example is I used to see I used to always see Really funny people I admire and people I know at work and stop talking about the wire The wire they'd be making these jokes from the wire and then I'd start to make the Jokes about the wire even though I never even watched the show But I would pick up because I just have that kind of brain work And you know that the wire is overrated. So then I just watched the wire, uh, like two winners ago It's overrated. I binge watched the whole thing. I thought it was just, you know, I loved I liked it a lot, but I agree. It wasn't what everybody made it out to be right Have you watched search party yet? No, I don't know what search search party is search party It's on tbs. You can like you can watch the whole thing. It's like streaming It's very good. There's so many things. Is this Conan's sitcom? No, no, no, it's the aliens I'm gonna get her name wrong Ilya slashing her or Eliza slashing her. Yes. Okay. No, not Eliza slashing her. She's a comic. Who's What Oh Yeah, I mean she's I feel bad that I I don't know her name, but she's great and john early and uh John reynolds It's uh, it's a it's a comedic show. It's like I mean, I have such a list of things I need to I I want to consume because yeah, again, I fall prey to that like you have to watch Yeah, but but does it make you but like rogue one? I'm seeing it monday. I shouldered and soldered Soldered through it. Yeah You did your best. There was one Seeing you know the forces with me. I'm at one with the force the forces with me I'm at one of the fourth and I was moved by that You know, but I didn't need I don't have a giant Science does it make you a better person? Do I don't have a giant need to see it? But my brother is a huge science fiction fan So for me like I was offered the opportunity to see it monday and I was like, yeah I want to see it a because culturally it makes me that much more able to what to Be in the conversation tune in and be I can call my brother and I can have You know 40 minute conversation with my brother. I wish I could be like you I need to consume everything. I wake up. I look at my phone. I wish I could follow sports because I you know There I could talk to that's the other thing. I waste so much time. I have to know Um, I have to know All 12 players on the 76ers. They're the worst team in basketball, but I watch again I will watch a game. I was bad last night that I couldn't watch six. Why would you watch it? Because and it was on national tv sixers lakers and I couldn't watch it because we had plans and it was like killing me I went to see louis ck last night. Now. I was thinking about was I I really wish I was watching sixers lakers It's just it's a neuroses man and you watch the game for enjoyment or so you could talk to your brother about it Well, there's a lot of that. I have like, uh, my Basketball friends that we you know, I'm a huge. I'm a huge sports fan You know, uh, my podcast partner mac oldage. He puts it best in his twitter bio It says huge sports fan for some dumb reason for some dumb reason and I That really speaks to me because I can't figure out why I have to I have to know who all like when the nfl draft comes around I have to know who the eagles all 15 of the eagles draft picks are and what is the biggest most pressing problem facing Our civilization twitter I mean Don't you feel like you should twitter is literally eating away at our at our society and I love it Don't you I'm not I swear to god I'm not trying to be the platform that twitter has given every day regular people that don't I I swear to you I I this is a character flow. This is what's wrong with me But this is why I'm no fun I think you're you're plenty of fun. Don't you think you should be doing something more important with your life I do look Absolutely, I definitely In one way it holds me back in another way it it empowers me to you know I get a thrill out of having a tweet get you know A thousand no i'm talking about this a thousand likes in a thousand seventy six years. Oh, I mean that just gives me enjoyment I've been a lifelong. It's like wrestling man. I can't quit it I had posters on my wall of charles barkley It's just one of those things. I'm I'm just uh consumed by Sunday, it's not even a question. Even if the eagles are terrible. I have to watch their games I wish I could be like it's a passion I wish I could lose my I wish I had the free time Yeah, I mean I I feel uh to do other things I get genuine when when game of thrones was over I was I mean like but not it's obviously not over over when I finished season six. I was legitimately upset For like a day. Well, David, what brings you joy, man? Like I watched the crown on netflix. I love you I loved it. I watched the crown. Okay, that's good something. Yeah That's what I binge watched What gets you excited You're really stepping into that. Uh, I'm just what did what have I seen uh, Manchester by the sea I heard that was fantastic. It was like I'm Blew me away. Casey Affleck is such a great actor. I heard it was fantastic. I want to see it something Yeah, I cannot wait to see fences Uh, yeah, what what else have I seen movies? I don't see enough. Oh, and I saw a documentary called the Best worst thing ever to happen. Oh, yeah, is that on uh, it's about marion netflix. No, it just came out It's a documentary. It's about Uh, Merrily we roll along was a Hal Prince Stephen Sondheim musical that Came out on Broadway in 81 And a guy named Lonnie Price was in it and he made a documentary about what it was like to be in a In a Broadway play That's great that failed Lots of producers. Yeah. Yeah. I uh, so I watched Go ahead. I'm sorry. The layer remedy Scientology, uh expose on A&E. That's the like 10. How is that unbelievable? Highly recommended because I'm fascinated with that kind of stuff like tree, but that's important. Yeah, so I watch that I watch, uh, The killing season on A&E, which is all about the Long Island serial killer. I'm like a huge I'm hugely into uh, true crime and all that kind of stuff And they ever catch the guy he not that I know of yeah bookers, right? Yeah. Yeah Insanely fascinating. He would carve up hooker. It would be great if I just go into specific details and turn That guy here's what he did. He took burlap sacks and Did you watch Stranger Things? Yeah, love that's the best show. That was the best show of the year. I think Oh, really? I I thought it was a good show. There were so many holes that pissed me off Yeah, I'm not that guy that I'm not a nitpicky whole whole picker But the psoriasis with the John Turteros feet Yeah, it was uh, it was a lot. Well, there's a benefit for the ACLU That I'm doing with John Fugle saying Frank Conn of Jordan Carlos, Joe Firestone Joe Firestone. Yes tickets are $10. It's Wednesday December 28th 2016 doors open at 7 30 show starts at 8 It's at Union Hall in Brooklyn Got to be 21 years or over And what a what a great show Um And whoever did the press for this by the way Really loves me Yeah Did you do the press release of this? Boy, no, David and David Feldman Ampersand bastard and David Jordan, Jordan Carlos from Jordan is the fuck he was uh, yeah super talented guy. Very willmore, right? He was on iCode Uh-huh, but he was on lyra willmore. Yeah, he was on my last show and The credits on the show are amazing. John Fugle saying Apparently he's been on msnbc has his own show on series xm. It says here that frank conif is a beloved star of mystery science Fear 3000 and and David Feldman has a podcast. It says here. That's it. That's all I can David Feldman has a podcast. Yeah So anyway, it's for the ACLU God, my manager hates me Uh, let's plug some gigs. This was fascinating. Andrew Goldstein. How can people get in touch with you at anggold on twitter a n g e g o l d My name backwards goldstein andrew on instagram, but more importantly the podcast Sorry, I've been so busy on the show briz network. You can find it on itunes We talked to really busy people about what they're busy doing or not so busy people about what they're lying about being What's your best episode? What's the so people could we just had charades small on and uh, it was really fantastic We've had neil brennan jude freedlander. Todd barry We also have like tv producers and writers and fan powell Who made who was uh the co-creator of amy schumer was you know, just really cool interesting People doing really cool interesting stuff and uh, we really get into the nitpick like the minutiae of their every day You know how they take their coffee how they do they wake up to a snooze alarm Just like really really we dive deep into uh the the everyday minutiae of life and co-host it with mac olditch But I recommend you listening to a few of them there. They're we've been having a blast doing them Kristen buckles will be at union hall in the bell house Late night period. What is late night period? Late night period is a late night style show hosted by lacy jacka and I And uh, we do our own style of late night show and it has stand-up with it. We'll have different guests And what do you think so this would be like a late night talk show? It's a variety show a variety show Yeah, lacy and I have sketches and bits and then and we do stand up Is the name a double in tondra because it's hosted by two women Yeah, but I don't understand. How can there be a late night talk show hosted by women? What do you say well to to be fair no one gives a rat's ass or we'll show up so it's gonna be great We're excited And collins you work with Collin who con who's the best he is the best. Yeah, why is he the best? I don't know Is it work at I mean, he's just so funny, but is it just he were you know and like he works So I've never met anybody who works so hard The man is constantly writing constantly creating something constantly doing a show He works so hard and he's genuinely the nicest person In the world I mean, I've had so many people will be like they think that how he acts to them when they first meet him They're like that's gotta be bullshit And then you sort of figure out that it's just not that he's just a genuinely really nice guy He will take pictures and say hello to anybody. He was he's like not above any of it He he's the and when I when I first started working with him He like really took me under his wing and has been mentoring me ever since and he's just I I don't know why I don't know how I deserve that. He's the best Yeah, so And you're the best. Thank you so much. You are I actually I co-produced um three mikes too with Neil Brennan. Oh man. Yeah, I love that show Neil's the best I just saw him in LA. I went to see him at the comedy store. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, I really I love Neil He's great. I've worn out my welcome with him. Oh, you have that makes sense podcast all the time Really? Yeah All the time and it's just like I can't ask him anymore. Oh poor Neil. He's a good guy. Yeah, he is the best Don't forget the aclu benefit friend me on facebook follow me on twitter Good luck with your divorce. When when when are you going to get your divorce? Jury is still out so far so good david october 10 you were married october 10 you can officiate our divorce first You can officiate would you officiate it? Yeah, we'll have a bagel brunch afterwards Some get a male lawyer get a male divorce attorney. Okay. You don't need to soften your image with a woman I have a very soft image That's that's right. So just get it. I don't need it get a golem to represent you. I'm gonna I'm gonna represent myself like dylan roof I'm that taste Can I just say one thing about the kid he's in jail how long and he still has the the bowl haircut Don't you get a haircut when you go to prison? See I if I were dylan roof I would have gotten collin ferguson to represent me. Yeah, that's a really That's a lot of layers there Lot of stuff to unbolt Alex, you know collin ferguson I'm really fired up about I'd see him in court. He's got the same haircut the same awful haircut. Come on, we Don't you get a haircut you get a buzz. I don't know. I don't know I saw stripes You get a buzz cut. All right. Okay. All right. I'm fired up david. I feel guilty about the collin ferguson joke from the show brist studios in Town man hat and thanks guys that'll do it for us. Thank you The david feldman radio program is made possible by listeners like you You sad pathetic humps