all right so um in case you you don'tknow me I'm Louis Rosenthal if you'vecome to warp stock in the United Statesyou've seen me there pretty much almostalmost every year for the last I don'tknow how many I can't count backwardsthat far and I'm the managing member ofour canoing anyone here not know whatblue lion is good goodso what I'm going to talk about today iswhat you can expect when you purchase ablue lion license to get for your moneywhat I'm saying are forward-lookingstatements now that's a that's afinancial disclaimer that accountanttypes like me usually use what it meansis nothing is set in stonebecause we do not yet have a productshipping some of what I'm about to tellyou is what we want to put in the boxwhat we plan to put in the Box what wewould like to put in the box but I'm notmaking any guarantee that it's going tobe in the box because as we like to sayit's not a deal until the ink is driedon the paper there you go or the boxback it's not coming with a headset likeWharf for next slide so as I say thereare a lot of details that are still influx there's a considerable amount ofthird-party work that is going into thepackage and those agreements have notyet been finalized I guess certainlydiary by the drivers that will be inblue line because we have a good idea asto what's going to be there and I cantalk about the support terms and theadditions absolutely some of the otherthings what I'm talking about we'regoing to have multiple editors and we'regonna have multiple calculators wellwe're not surethose editors are yet we're not surewhat those calculators are yet slideplease so pre-sale concerns gee I havean econ station 1.0 license I don't knowif it's time for me to upgrade I don't Idon't really see the value in buying anew a license for a new operating systemslide so for whom is virtual isVirtualBox listening is is blue lie in agood fit if you're doing a new baremetal installation of OS 2 unless youhave an older machine you're going toneed the drivers that are in blue lionsuch as the latest a CPI driver maybeyou're doing an installation in avirtual machine there's still stuff tooffer there yesVirtualBox will run warp 4 very nicelybut you're going to get the 32 bitsstack with with blue lion and what wehave found through some interestingconversations is that under vmware atleast on some of the latest Intelprocessors as the the hypervisor withoutthe latest a CPI driver the hostperformance suffers so if you'replanning to run blue lion in avirtualized environment under vmware ona very new server platform you willlikely need blue lion in order to getthe full capacity of that processor inthat host machine and multiply thatbottleneck by as many virtual machinesas you plan to run under thatinstallation of vmware on that boxthat's a real value that blue lionprovides in a virtualized environmentin VirtualBox there are still issueswith VirtualBox running multiplevirtualized CPUs for os/2 I can actuallyget it to boot down to VirtualBox fiveon a 64-bit Linux host but it doesn'ttake long before os/2 just stops runningwhen I've got multiple processorsenabled that's a VirtualBox thing that'snot an os/2 thing there's not much wecan do other than work as closely withour friends at at Oracle to resolvethose those issues under VMware I don'tthink that we see that issue I thinkthat you can enable multiple CPUs in ain a an OS two or blue lion guest underVMware without a problem like that butthere's other things that are that areuseful for for a VirtualBox installationif you've got an existing bare metalinstallation of os/2 or ECS then all ofthe drivers subscription content isgoing to ship in one package and bluelion and you'll get the regular updatesthat you would get in the subscriptionfor your blue lion support subscriptionand so you get one installable unifiedpackage existing virtual installationsfor the same reason so you've got anexisting virtual installation it stillmakes sense to get a blue lion licensefor your your new installations or toupgrade what you have we also intendfully intend to be as backwardcompatible to older systems as possibleso if you have os/2 or ECS installed onan older system don't think that justbecause we're targeting newer Hardwareas our as our concern for hardwaresupport that we're leaving the olderhardware behind I will tell you thisthat as we have gone through the list ofdevicedrivers for audio and older networkingcards a lot of the old Isis stuff we areremoving from the package unless we havea compelling reason to keep it in thereit's very difficult for us to supportthat stuff at this point and if you arecurrent subscribers in the ARCA know asubscription your value is protectedbecause as I will show you in a laterslide if you've got if you just renewedyour subscription and you have anothersix months to go you're going to get acredit for that six months towards yourpurchase of a blue lion license so youdon't you don't end up with six monthsof a subscription that really does youno good because you're getting a newproduct you're gonna get something backfor that value slide pleasecommon goals for blue lion that's likeso we want to make os/2 viable forexisting installations obviously firstdo no harmwe're definitely not planning to breakanything and we want to make itmaintainable going forward so if youhave a collection of software or youhave a small business and you run os/2is the backbone of your business ormaybe you don't have a small businessmaybe you have a large enterprise youshould not have to change your platformsimply because IBM decided in itsinfinite wisdom to give up on the os/2business okay we want to make oh s toinstall on modern hardware that has beena real problem for far too longand I can't tell you I'm dealing withone of my consulting clients right nowwho wants me to do a hardware upgradefor him he's got a small business he hasa couple of machines he does everythingin pairs so he always has a hot sparemachine ready to go and he said you knowyou built this machine for me about fiveyears ago and I know it's got a quadcore in itI want something more I don't know whatmore but I have to sit and scratch myhead and thinking right now I got topick a board for this machine that'sgoing to be always too compatible andwhat about the drives in it and he wantsSSDs so I got a check now I got to makesure the SSDs support legacyconfiguration it's a hassleour objective going forward is to makeblue lion as easily installed on modernhardware as a modern Linux distributionwould be notice I didn't say a modernWindows installation okay and we want tomake an installable across a wider arrayof hardware from notebooks to desktopsto servers and even tablets now ofcourse tablets are becoming harder forus because we don't have that manychoices in terms of Intel based tabletsare there any Intel based tabletscurrently being made yeah I had a hunchthat that was going to be the issue sowe do have that EFI problem and thatwe're aware of that issue we're aware ofthat limitation we're also on the thethe UEFI group the consortium mainly sowe can stay current on what they'redoing not because we're really inputting a lot of stuff although we havebeen contacted by them to ask us aboutwhat our specific needs would be and ofcourse I said well our needs areanything that ran in 1996 we'd like youto maintain that of course the answercame back yeah yeah 1996 well let's seeI was in grade school then is okay thankyou very much I'm fine too first timeslide pleaseso we want to make os/2 useful forcontemporary content what do I mean bythat and what I mean by that is we allhear this buzzword web 2.0 and of courseeveryone says no problem everyone sayswell you know what the devil is web 2.0well you know the way you load up a webpage in Firefox and all of a sudden theprocessor gets pegged to the top becausethe JavaScript engine is working as hardas it possibly can that really shouldn'thappen and we want to look to addressthat so that you don't need to go toanother platform to render the contentthat you want to that you want to viewwe don't want you to have to fire up aWindows machine to use Microsoft Officewe want to make os/2 secure for the 21stcentury we're working with a client nowthe client is using peer services landman hashes are running rampant acrossthe network security came in and theysaid oh no we got to get this stuff offthe network this is got to go well sowhat are you gonna do the war before areyou gonna how are we gonna do anythingmore secure than a land man hash foruser authentication we have a solutionfor that and it's Kerberosauthentication and we have a workingKerberos implementation and we have aworking samba4 plugin for net drive andwe can do the latest SMB dialect and wecan authenticate to Windows controlleddomains that are set to the highestsecurity level supported by Server 2008release 2 and Server 2012 release 2 thatmakes os/2 a networked client that isable to be supported in enterprisebecause it's no longer the weakest linkin the chain once again Windows is theweakest link in the chain andinstallation should be as comprehensiveas possible so when you install theoperating system ifthere are 50 applications that youreally want to get pushed onto themachine you shouldn't have to go through50 separate installations to make thathappenyou should either be able to do thatwith the initial install or with yournext round of updates through the ourKanoa package manager and get all thesoftware that you need to run installedand configured on that machine to makeit usable as quickly as possibleyou shouldn't have to spend a day justsetting it up we want to automatemaintenance and update tasks theArkanoid package manager in front of yumand RPM does that so we have new fixesavailable you'll be able to pull themdown and get them installed right awaywe want to keep that Update channelgoing as well forever I mean we don't wedon't have an end date our Kanoa is notan entity that's going to expire at anypoint we're planning to keep goingand essentially we want to keep os/2 onpar with modern Linux distributions inso far as the the hardware that'ssupported under Linux as David wassaying before if you've got crappyhardware we really don't want to hearabout that but if you have good solidhardware and Linux will run on thathardware we should be able to run onthat hardware now that's you know ifit's only Windows compliant there's notmuch we can do about thatokay that's that's really not our thingbut if you think about a good 32-bitLinux distribution running on thatparticular thing that you have we shouldbe able to do that that's what our planis slide please okay so we're going tohave two editions of blue lion sort oflike the way we have two separate tracksfor our subscription service now slideplease we have a personal Edition and ofcourse the personal Edition will comewith a lower price tagit's not meant for business use mainlybecause we're not going to give thelevel of support that a business wouldrequire we we can't for the lower pricetag but this is other than that thecontent is exactly the same you'll getsix months of updates and support withthe purchase of a license as I say ifyou have an existing subscriptionwhatever's left on that subscriptionwill get credited pro rata against thepurchase of the blue lion license andthe updates for the support will berenewable just like the blue lionsubscription is renewable we have notset pricing for the operating systemlicense or for the support renewal yetbut expect that it will be aggressivethis will be pretty much our best dealbut again this is the key to remembersupport is on a best effort basis if youopen a ticket about a problem we will doour best to deal with your problem butwe're not going to take commercialcustomers and have them sit aside whilewe try to sort out why your USB scannerisn't working I'm sorrywe'll probably refine that wording inthe in the license agreement yeah yeahslide pleasethe commercial edition is meant forbusiness use if you have a largeenterprise or you have a small businessand your small business depends upon oneOS to system always running to run yourcash register that's what you're goingto want because if your cash registerstops working you're not taking anymoney or you got to do everything onpaper and a pencil again right you allgoing to take it for us with acommercial license and we take noticeand we we focus on that ticket insteadof six months of updates and support youget 12 months of update and supportincluded with this license so you get alonger term before you need to renewlike the other one if you've got anexisting commercial subscription thatwill get credited pro-rata to yourpurchase of a commercial blue lionsubscription the subscription willinclude the drivers then essentially thethe updates for blue lion will be asuperset of the software and driversubscription now so whatever's in thesoftware and drivers subscription nowwill be included in the blue lion updatesubscription plus additional featuresand applications that are only in bluelion slide pleaseI'd like to talk for a minute about theinstaller which which which I've justseen myself for the first time for thoseof you warning on the inside joke keithis doing the installer for usso pre booting the Installer um whenyou're installing the the operatingsystem you should be able to boot fromoptical media or USB media how many newlaptops are coming with no opticaldrives at all so you're going to need tobe able to install from something elsehow about when you're doing an ECSinstall and it says if your drivers areon a floppy diskette please insert itnow right where's the slot there's it'sfloppies are gone right so you should beable to install this operating systemwith with a USB stick you should be ableto burn the ISO to a USB boot from theUSB and do your installation if you haveadditional drivers that need to go inyou should be able to put those driverson a USB stick and feed the USB stickand the Installer should pick up and runfrom there now that's an interestingthat's an interesting thought we haven'twe hadn't considered that possibilitywhere we only have one so we'll need toship we'll need to ship the theoperating system with a USB Y cable soyou can plug in your other that's aninteresting thought we do want tosupport network installations as well soI mean there are certainly workaround sowe can we can look at but that's athat's a good point about laptops onlycome with one USB port on them you'llhave network connectivity frominstallation media in pre-boot you canyou can select your network card oractually we should detect it for youthat's the plan and even if it'swireless you'll have an option when it'sbooting up - press f1 so you can enteryour SSID and any of your otherpertinent information so that from thepre boot menu or if you need to run themaintenance environmentyou boot from the your installationmedia to get there your network shouldall be up and running so you can get outto the internet how many times you runthe the maintenance console for ecs andyou realize i have to get that for theinternet so we have a new installer fromthe ground up it's not the EECOM stationinstallerthis isn't your grandfather's installerthis is this is completely rewritteninstall it rewritten from scratch keithis doing the the GUI for us for theInstaller very human the extremely GUIinstaller you will not have any more keycodes to enter during the install Ipromise the way your your drivers aresigned from your subscription your ISOwill be signed the same way so when youdownload your installation media imageit will be signed with your serialnumber in the image and you'll have auseful maintenance environment becausenetworking will be available you'regonna have a browser so you'll be ableto get to the Internet to getinformation you need to maintain yoursystem assuming it's broken and that'swhy you would have gone to yourmaintenance system anyway and it'll havesome useful tools I'm not sure exactlywhat those useful tools will be buttrust me you'll have useful tools slidepleasethe boot up the kernel and the driversso you'll be able to boot it by itselfwithout a boot manager installed or youcan install air boot we don't plan tosupport boot manager because it'sgetting it's getting different our bootmanager just doesn't scale well to thedrives we have today so that's what youthat's what you'll have kernelsyou're going to get an upgraded andupdated Warped floor and you'll getupdated SMP kernel we'renot gonna do a unique Arnall for thisrelease does anyone need a unique kernelgood with the latest fixes and you'll beable to mark your apache openofficedll's to load high and when you closeapache openoffice and won't take downyour whole system that's a good featureright there now isn't itand we're gonna have a new loader that'sgoing to be in some part based on Q s init it will have support for a ram diskabove 4 gigabytes but it won't requireconfiguration so out of the box with noconfiguration file it should workexactly the way the old loader worksright now if you add the flag to theconfiguration file and you've got 8 gigsof RAM in your system you should be ableto configure a 4 gig ram disk up thereformatted hpfs it the RAM disk will notdo JFS we've had that discussion and itreally you know for a four gig drive inmemory what's the difference it's notlike you need to worry about keeping ajournal in case you have to run a checkdisk on your ram drive slide pleaseobviously a CPI multi Mac unioad USB JFSjust like what you get in your softwaresubscription Danny and AHCI all latestversions available at the time of GAwill be in blue lion panorama and snapexpect an updated snap now that wefinally have the repo working you canmaybe you can you can do that check outa couple main things about snap butagain Steve is doing it Steve is doing asession on snap tomorrow so he'll gointo it in detail but there are a coupleremaining nasty bugs and snap running onSMP systems number one and we all knowthat the chips are supported by snaphave already been long discontinued bythe manufacturers so if you get a brandnew machineprobably snap isn't gonna be able to doanything about accelerating the videowhere we want to add new chipset supportso we'll see how far along we get thefixes for SMP I am 99% sure we'll makeit into the snap included in blue lionadditional chipsets may come after thefact but here's the great part if youget a blue lion license you're going toget those updates as they becomeavailable in the subscription so there'sno sense in you know when we finally goGA saying well I'll wait until snap getsupdated and then doing it and believe meI'm not leading anyone on I mean ourplan is to add these these chips for forsnap we know that there are some issueswith with das sessions under it's sortof odd the way alt Richmond transferredthe code to us and it took Steve a longtime to sift through the code to get itinto the repository we had a mix of Dassand unix line endings in in a bunch ofthe files and thousands of files nosources for the documents for instanceso I don't have I don't have source codefor a lot of the for the manual that'sall PDF that's got to be ripped out ofthe PDF and reconverted and there's somany details when you go into actuallydoing an operating system release and Idon't need to tell answer this orRoderick this but when you go into doingan operating system at least there is somuch other stuff that you have to dealwith there's documentation there'slicensing agreements for all thatthird-party stuff that goes in therethere's the end user License Agreementfor your own usersall that stuff that I was absolutelynothing to do with making the thing workbut their details that have to behandled one way or another anddocumentation for snap our license withall richmond tells us that you know whatwe need to remove from the documentationin terms of copyright notices all that'sgot to get changedluckily I have a very ambitious eighteenyear old daughter at home and she is awhiz with word processing and verytechnically minded and I sort of set herabout the task and gave her an NDA weare planning on having a special editionof neck drive in blue lion mainlybecause we want to provide the Samba forplug in support so that Samba fornetworking will be available out of thebox but we don't want to detract fromsales of net drive that handles you knowfifty other plugins so we're workingwith the author of net drive to come upwith some kind of a reasonable solutionso we can do that bit bitwise has aDropbox plugin for net drive they dohave that that's not available throughour store that's only available throughthe air store but I am told it worksvery well how's that was that a goodplug guys good Lars has been working onUSB MSD was which does some interestingthings for huge unpartitioned media wewant to include that in in blue lion aswell so that when your windows friendshand you a stick and they say oh yeahthat videos on that stick or you needwas putting your computer and you put itin and you say well I got a drive letterbut there's nothingyeah I put it in I didn't get a driveletter then we really want to addressthat PS print and a new which is a newPostScript printer driver pack withupdated printer drivers for cups as wellas native printing we've been doing alot of a lot of work on that recentlyand as well as pin which is the utilityfor converting postscript definitionfiles to add them to the driver therewas some nasty buglets that IBM left inthe in the code there's a surprise inthe in the DD k and we've we've spentconsiderable time working on on those Ithink that Alex is probably going totalk about some of that in hispresentation networking and I want toget through this quickly only cuz I'mwatching the clock up here so what arewe going to keep in the box in blue inblue lion peer services and netwarerequester if you absolutely positivelyhave a dependency on on peer networkingIBM land manager client we're not gonnarip that out we're licensed by IBM to toresell it as part of blue lion it's moreeffort to rip it out than to leave it inthe net where requester the plan is toleave it in there's still somediscussion going on about what thelicensing agreement is with Novell onthat honestly I don't think that Novellwell now microfocusreally really cares whether we leave itin or not the last 32-bit tcp/ip stackfrom IBM will be included Samba forclient which will be included as aplug-in to net drive with support forKerberos authentication it also does LMversion two authentication a Kerberosticket manager because managing Kerberostickets from the command line is a painfor a lot of peopledoes everyone understand the wayKerberos works with tickets no okayKerberos is a very interestingauthentication mechanism in that yourpassword never crosses the wire to theserver so at least done in nineteenclear text so what happens is when theserver authenticates you you get aticket from that server saying thatindeed with this ticket you are who yousay you are tickets normally have anexpiration time on them by default onWindows machines it's ten hours afterwhich you need to either renew theticket or request a new ticket well youneed to have some way of managing thosetickets because otherwise you won't knowwhen your authentication is expired andwhen it's time to get a new ticket orany method for automatically renewingtickets so that you can stay logged inbecause otherwise you go to sleep atnight you leave the Machine logged onyou get up in the morning and there'snothing exactly and we all know what WPSdoes when when you try to open a networkmap share that's no longer there and itjust hangs and hi nice so a ticketmanager there's also a replacement classfor the the drives object that dealswith that and it refreshes those in thebackground and we're talking - that wasdeveloped by vitaly then that drivedeveloper and we're talking to him aboutadding that component to blue lion aswell we have a new network adapters ofprotocol services manager if if you'rerunning ECS - - you've seen pretty muchthe the earlier version of of naps it'sbeen enhanced little bit that's AlexTaylor's look a network browser anddrive mapping utility if you're familiarwith ETFs GUIif that's really the front end butwithout the e added to it and we're notreplacing the e with an a as alex sayswe're not really into McBrine dingeverythingan IP firewall we would like to includeon some version of enjoy in the productwe're still working with our bitwisefriends about that but the plan is thatyou should have a secure networkinginstallation if you choose to have asecure networking installation all betsare off of your using peer alright notmy fault someone hacks the machine whenyou're sending land man hashes over yournetwork that's not something you want toopen the ticket with me back but theidea is that we want to include afirewall so that your machine can be assecure as you need it to be when youinstall it from the get-go slide pleaseprinting so the existing native printdriver packs will be in there a newprint management utility that will helpyou import new drivers and we're goingto include cups 2 in the package thatshould make it easier because there'snothing more daunting than when someonesays to you well you only have nativeprinting installed you really need cupsfor that and then you look at the cupspage and it's that long is a where do Istartcups 2 will be will be available forinstallation at the time that you you doyour your setup next slide someusability enhancements so we have alight version of X workplace it's alittle bit more a little bit morefeature-rich than than a workplacethere will be new desktop wallpapersthey'll be sized for traditional 4 to 3displays as well as wide screens[Music]alex has done this this latest build ofit for for our alpha bills right now butthere's still work to be doneultimately it will be there yes it thisis not we're not forking the project sowhatever we do is going to end up thereand then you'll be able to build one orthe other at the same time we plan onadding some new sound schemes I knownone of this stuff has any any real youknow we're all trying to get soundworking right so on time you're gonnahave new sound effects the schemes willbe there that's these two are projectsthat I hand it off to my daughter andshe's been collecting stuff and we havea repository and she'll be committingstuff to the repository and alex is ourdirector of he is the director of theuser interface so he will make the finaldetermination as to what gets that whatmakes the cut what goes into the productso on and so forth new EX Center widgetsfor removable devices the removabledevice widget the USB stick widget hassome really nasty issues with it I Iwill tell you this that here's here's atip about creating tickets please don'tsubmit a ticket to to David and tellthem that you lost data when you use theUSB stick widget to eject your stick allright because I'll give you the answerthat take it right nowdon't use the USB stick widget all rightthe safest way is to open the driveobject right click on the on the driveand click eject that's the safest way toget them get rid of the stick there's novisible feedback other than the fact theletter disappears from the from thedisplay there's no beepeject yep same exactly the same thingthe new stick widget that we haveplanned new removable device widgetbecause ultimately it should handle allremovable devices right whether they'reUSB or ultimately eSATA all that itshould do is exactly that call that ajet command and make an eject and giveyou savvy back to let you know yes it'sbeen ejectedgo for it instead of just do I don't Iyou know the I'd look exactly exactly Iand a Kerberos ticket manager also wewant to implement as a widget a new fileopen container what the multi-columnfile open container the plan is that itwill be essentially the same as the lastnew file open container okayyou can't do some things like forexample you go to the sometimes itdoesn't it seems okay we have a aseparate mantas project its privatemantas project for developers working onthat I'm going to add you to that listand you can open that openI'm gonna get it we do not have thesource for it it's it's a third-partyapplication we don't have the source forit they have the source for it they havethe source for it it's an ongoingconcern that company is still inbusiness and and we anticipate thatcompany will continue in business forthe foreseeable future I mean we talkedabout a couple of options for thisincluding x-file anyone use X file inthe room from codes from its softwareMichael Schilling furred it's a greatfile open container but it's Michael'sessentially gone away and so again wehave no access to the source code andgetting access to him is difficult Ihaven't gotten them to respond there yougothat's a PNG desktop item objects iconsrather for those whopping big displaysthat everyone's getting now so that youdon't end up with these yes and a way toto edit PNG icons because right now theIBM ICO editor doesn't handle PNGcorrect so we actually have someoneworking on a PNG icon editor applicationand new fonts Alex will talk about hisnew fonts these if you if you followedthe releases on hobbs he's put up he'spackaged a few of the droid fonts slidepleaseabsent applets we want to include a CDand DVD burning utility it may not be asfully functional as DVD CD toys and wedo not want you to not buy a license forcd/dvd toys but we do want you to beable to burn a disc when you need toburn a disc I mean that's that's theimportant thing an archive managerno an archive manager like like or likezippy but not as full featured zippybecause we don't want you to not buy alicense for zippy simply because youhave a way to unzip files in blue lionif the idea is that if you have to makezip files you need to split zip filesand you need to test zip files youreally need to have an application to dothat new view will be included and wellI noticed that Ronald has made some somecommits recently so I think that he'sfinally getting back into it I want tobe pinging him about that soon Oh weirdof where to enter tickets for new viewat Dannette laughs new views Annette labsaw project these days updated luciddocument viewer if you prefer loose seedto queue PDF view and I know some peoplein the back don't but if you do preferit we have a new build of lue seed thatuses the system installed poplar libraryso if you install poplar from Arkanoidpackage manager or young this versionblue seed will use that to render thePDFs between between that and theupdated can be see C compiler betweenthat and the updated GCC compiler thisbuild we have is probably 30% faster atrendering PDFs than the last the lastbill now that 30% is really just sort ofan off-the-cuff number but I've loadedthousand 2000 page PDFs and I cannoticeably flip through the pages muchfasterum latest apache openoffice will be onthe disk so you'll be able to installthat at the time the latest Firefox andThunderbird and SeaMonkey will also beavailable for installation other appletsclock synchronization will have anupdated clock synchronization utilitythat will manager TZ string so you don'tneed to remember how that's supposed togo the standard OS to tcp/ip utilitieswill be in there essentially anythingthat shipped with warp 4 will be will bethere the services and diagnostic aidslaurs have been working on a newhardware manager device class which isreally nice that will be included so youactually get some useful informationwhen you go to the hardware managerobject and not just telling you that youyes you do have a CPU in the machine themultimedia classes and applets chrissa'smultimedia classes will be included I'mnot sure what are the rap le'ts yet wehaven't quite nailed all those detailswell you know we had you know againthese are the these are the sort ofthings when we have a staff meeting andwe start talking about specific areas ofblue lion that we want to cover and westarted talking about calculators welost we lost two hours discussing whichcalculator was the best one to includeand probably a week later it dawned onme why don't we just include a wholebunch of them who caresinstall whichever calculator you like soI'll I'll add that to my list the HP Iknow which one you're talking yesreally handy and it's got a bunch ofconversion stuff in it too if you youknow forget but it's equivalent of the43 without any other program rightthat's the one that's on hobbes there'sno yeah yeah I have yeah I think this isthe last slide see told you was the lastslidegbt we are working on a solution for GPTinterestingly enough GPT all thesetechnologies are interrelated so UEFIGPT SSD all of this stuff sort of tiestogether in a neat little package alongwith the two terabyte device limitationthat we have and we are looking ataddressing all of those so that we canultimately install and run from GPTformatted media into partitions largerthan two devices and partitions largerthan 2 terabyteswe know that JFS supports larger than 2terabytes certainly on on Linux it doesand even the code that that came overfrom when IBM released it will do morethan 2 terabytes but you know we need tobe able to see more than 2 terabytes inorder to do that it is on the list I donot think that we are going to be nearthat at the time of the initial bluelion release but look for it gbgt gbgsorry so I had to take all the old stuffright things running wellon the upside our DFC is GPT aware andso and and we have an OEM engine for DFCin blue lion so we'll be able to detectif you've got a GPT disk and say heythis disc is GPT we need itwe need a you know a standard MBR onthis this media and it should flip thatover for you okay well we're into thecoffee breakwell priorities John thank well I willtell you this obviously the first thefirst release is going to be English ouragreement with with IBM does not specifythat we are limited to the Englishversion of OS two so as far as we'reconcerned every language that IBM madeavailable for os/2 we should be able torelease for for blue lionI mean we're license to release it forblue lion once we get the Englishversion of blue lion out willre-energize the translators and I wantto thank you for your your work with thethe arkanoid package manager'translations we're going to re-energizea translators list and we'll see whatneeds to be translated for all the otherstuff that we have in there butobviously that's a that's a majorconcern for us is that we want to beable to to have non non English versionsJerald IRC for martini Germany's askingwhat there's anything to be said aboutpricing yes that that's the word I woulduseum the pricing hasn't been set yet Iwould I would say that you can expectthat the commercial version will beconsiderably more than the personalversion but I think rough rough numbersI would say that for the commercialversion you're not looking at you don'twe get more than a windows license okayhow's that how's that I mean we're notgoing to we're not going to put asticker price of $1,000 on a licensewe're gonna put a sticker price of $500on a license okay so there are so manythird-party components that are still influx we don't know how much licensingwe're going to need to pay out on theback end yet so it's very difficult forus to nail down a price tag as to whatwe're what we're going to have there andthen whatever price tag we set for thepersonal edition which is going to bepretty close to break-even for us weneed to figure what is the value thatour support brings to the commercialversion in order to set the price forthe commercial version so that's thebest I can do in price right now it'sit's too earlyanything else come in the IRC everyonein IRC everyone in the world knowseverything about blue lion should havehad some of them coming in do do thefuture of warpin I'm going to talk moreabout warping tomorrow when I talk aboutyum and rpm and Arkanoid package managerlook warping is it's out there it worksthere are packages that install viawarpin certainly our updates are stillvia warp innow we haven't transitioned to RPM yetthe plan ultimately is for arkanoidpackage manager to handle warp inarchives the same way it handles rpms soI'll talk about that tomorrow butabsolutely we have we have no problemthat will be you know part of thisinstallation - you're gonna get allthose installation utilities sureanything else yes32-bit 32-bit here's the here's thething in order to to use the memoryabove the 4 gigabyte boundary for forthe RAM disk we have to perform a trickknown as PAE support for growl addressextensions we only have partial supportfor that right now that partial supportallows us to create a ram disk up therebut we can't put program code into thatspace and use it we would love to beable to do that and we have the absoluteright in our contract with IBM to dowhat we need to do to the kernel if wewant to make that happen so we haven'truled anything out yet 64-bit is off thetableos/2 is a 32-bit operating system andeven if we had a 64-bit kernel all ofour other applications are 32-bit sowe're you know we're all dressed up withnowhere to gowe are working right now with a arrayedmanufacturer in Taiwan that makeshardware RAID Solutions internal andexternal they were very good in workingwith us to resolve a bug in theirfirmware for an earlier release of oneof their products and we're working withthem to make one of their newer productsmore compatible and I've told them thatwe would really like to be able torecommend their equipment as oursupported raid solution and that'sthat's a long-term goal for us is to beable to say you know even if we don'tsay models we say manufacturers and thengo to those manufacturers and say tothem I have blue lion what's going torun and then the manufacturer is oh weknow blue lion because you know half thetime I talk to these people and they sayos/2 who's using os/2 I say would youlike me to run down a list of fortune500 companies that are using os/2 anddon't even know itso the idea is to make them aware thatthat there is still a viable market toto stay compatible with us and for us ofcourse to remain as compatible as we aswe possibly canagain the goal is that if you caninstall it and you can get Linux to runwith that hardware we should be able todo it to it and that's a you know that'ssort of a it's a software and a hardwarething because what they do in firmwarewe can't there's not much we we cancontrol about that other than going tothe manufacturing saying we think wefound something in your firmware that'scausing this not to work whether it's abug or a feature we don't knowI'm sorry we can talk about this overcoffee move waitthank you thank you[Applause]