<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?><transcript><text start="10.49" dur="3.16">[Music]</text><text start="17.51" dur="14.049">[Music]</text><text start="36.69" dur="13.19">[Music]</text><text start="57.36" dur="24.93">[Music]</text><text start="84.37" dur="8.19">[Music]</text><text start="88.98" dur="7.66">for me I think the real turning point</text><text start="92.56" dur="6.21">was maybe when I was 11 or so I lived in</text><text start="96.64" dur="3.57">New Jersey and I didn&amp;#39;t know that many</text><text start="98.77" dur="5.46">other people who were into the things</text><text start="100.21" dur="6.51">that I was into and suddenly I was able</text><text start="104.23" dur="4.5">to meet other kids and talk to them</text><text start="106.72" dur="4.5">about music and politics and sort of</text><text start="108.73" dur="5.52">form our identities together and I don&amp;#39;t</text><text start="111.22" dur="5.01">think I even knew at the time how this</text><text start="114.25" dur="4.02">is not a thing that was possible at any</text><text start="116.23" dur="4.5">point in history before I was at a</text><text start="118.27" dur="7.92">friend&amp;#39;s place and he showed medium went</text><text start="120.73" dur="7.889">was it shopping characteristic sound and</text><text start="126.19" dur="4.92">instead of just connecting to a computer</text><text start="128.619" dur="4.261">it was connected to Gateway computer</text><text start="131.11" dur="4.84">giving him the possibility to access</text><text start="132.88" dur="9.629">other computers it just blew my mind</text><text start="135.95" dur="6.559">[Music]</text><text start="142.56" dur="7.5">and this simple fact that they could</text><text start="145.709" dur="7.051">have you know from some rub discussions</text><text start="150.06" dur="5.37">with people across the world they</text><text start="152.76" dur="5.13">thought that it was really magic I think</text><text start="155.43" dur="3.42">what you see now is both you know</text><text start="157.89" dur="2.22">different levels both from the</text><text start="158.85" dur="3.09">government&amp;#39;s and the companies but also</text><text start="160.11" dur="5.19">from the individual users a growing</text><text start="161.94" dur="6.98">awareness that you know there may be it</text><text start="165.3" dur="3.62">may be not such a free space after all</text><text start="178.47" dur="5.739">US intelligence confirms it&amp;#39;s collecting</text><text start="181.569" dur="4.651">the private messages of Internet users</text><text start="184.209" dur="5.131">nine major Internet companies they</text><text start="186.22" dur="7.53">include Google Facebook Yahoo Microsoft</text><text start="189.34" dur="5.7">Skype YouTube Apple AOL and paltalk have</text><text start="193.75" dur="4.08">been used by the FBI and the National</text><text start="195.04" dur="5.58">Security Agency to monitor photos videos</text><text start="197.83" dur="4.95">emails audio and all other sorts of</text><text start="200.62" dur="8.13">information tracking a sweeping scope of</text><text start="202.78" dur="8.79">individuals online activity so the first</text><text start="208.75" dur="5.1">dot-com bust some of the internet</text><text start="211.57" dur="3.78">companies then who live in this promise</text><text start="213.85" dur="3.45">that the internet would be the kind of</text><text start="215.35" dur="4.56">new economy and they had thought that</text><text start="217.3" dur="3.78">people subscribing to services would</text><text start="219.91" dur="3.06">actually be the way they would make</text><text start="221.08" dur="3.9">money but as we found out you know</text><text start="222.97" dur="3.66">nobody was willing to do that and people</text><text start="224.98" dur="4.38">really wanted to visit websites and have</text><text start="226.63" dur="4.68">services online for free after that a</text><text start="229.36" dur="4.77">couple of organizations started</text><text start="231.31" dur="4.47">experimenting with the idea of using the</text><text start="234.13" dur="3.389">data that they had on their users and</text><text start="235.78" dur="3.6">realizing this was quite valuable and in</text><text start="237.519" dur="3.331">the context of advertising and that&amp;#39;s</text><text start="239.38" dur="3.199">kind of how it started is what some</text><text start="240.85" dur="4.77">people call the internet&amp;#39;s original sin</text><text start="242.579" dur="6.521">when 9/11 happened they took the</text><text start="245.62" dur="4.95">programs that I adopt do and put</text><text start="249.1" dur="3.63">together and use them to spy on</text><text start="250.57" dur="4.889">everybody in the planet including all US</text><text start="252.73" dur="5.31">citizens first we&amp;#39;re the first ones who</text><text start="255.459" dur="3.96">they they adopted bulk acquisition and</text><text start="258.04" dur="3.86">bulk collection on that which US</text><text start="259.419" dur="2.481">citizens</text><text start="263.68" dur="4.45">they do it in the easiest way they can</text><text start="266.15" dur="5.25">which means if companies have assembled</text><text start="268.13" dur="5.22">information about their customers then</text><text start="271.4" dur="3.45">that&amp;#39;s a readily accessible set of</text><text start="273.35" dur="4.35">information about a large number of</text><text start="274.85" dur="4.56">people then the eight intelligence ages</text><text start="277.7" dur="4.02">will simply go there and buy it from</text><text start="279.41" dur="5.01">that company or get access to to their</text><text start="281.72" dur="6.39">data directly it&amp;#39;s a kind of</text><text start="284.42" dur="7.05">surveillance that is rather invisible to</text><text start="288.11" dur="7.32">the person and that is at the crossroads</text><text start="291.47" dur="6.39">of public and private actors and and</text><text start="295.43" dur="6.99">that is nested in our everyday life</text><text start="297.86" dur="8.34">through our everyday services you see so</text><text start="302.42" dur="6.21">it&amp;#39;s much more I would say difficult for</text><text start="306.2" dur="4.64">the people to identify that they are</text><text start="308.63" dur="5.9">object of surveillance</text><text start="310.84" dur="5.4">putting yourself tons of personal</text><text start="314.53" dur="5.28">information online using Facebook</text><text start="316.24" dur="5.73">Instagram Twitter whatever people don&amp;#39;t</text><text start="319.81" dur="7.55">really realize the danger when it comes</text><text start="321.97" dur="8.669">to that but people have instant benefits</text><text start="327.36" dur="7.96">its immediate it&amp;#39;s granted and it&amp;#39;s free</text><text start="330.639" dur="6.651">so it&amp;#39;s easy and it&amp;#39;s very difficult to</text><text start="335.32" dur="4.77">balance something that is free easy</text><text start="337.29" dur="8.25">enjoyable or something that might be</text><text start="340.09" dur="5.45">dangerous in a hard to predict future</text><text start="352.6" dur="7.07">[Laughter]</text><text start="376.34" dur="5.67">[Music]</text><text start="377.9" dur="10.409">mornin kiddush Donna I thought to check</text><text start="382.01" dur="6.299">[Music]</text><text start="395.14" dur="3.12">[Music]</text><text start="401.21" dur="6.9">Jerusalem tricks I was even telling a</text><text start="405.03" dur="3.08">Finnish pedia</text><text start="427.55" dur="10.81">you know it&amp;#39;s super eurobeat found Oh</text><text start="435.14" dur="5.05">without a doubt the most I&amp;#39;d say</text><text start="438.36" dur="3.18">aggressive data collector is it&amp;#39;s</text><text start="440.19" dur="2.55">through the mobile phone because we&amp;#39;re</text><text start="441.54" dur="3.09">taking it with us and the things that we</text><text start="442.74" dur="2.82">do and when this acts kind of like a</text><text start="444.63" dur="3.93">tracking device</text><text start="445.56" dur="4.62">we&amp;#39;re leaving data traces that not only</text><text start="448.56" dur="2.97">indicate things like services that were</text><text start="450.18" dur="3">accessing but also where we&amp;#39;re going</text><text start="451.53" dur="3.99">what our behaviors and patterns are what</text><text start="453.18" dur="4.11">you can see very quickly is things like</text><text start="455.52" dur="3.75">you know when does that person often go</text><text start="457.29" dur="3.72">to bed are they traveling do they call</text><text start="459.27" dur="3.09">their if they&amp;#39;re traveling did they call</text><text start="461.01" dur="2.01">a partner if you&amp;#39;re morning to the calm</text><text start="462.36" dur="2.52">in the evening</text><text start="463.02" dur="3.75">did they go out for dinner you know who</text><text start="464.88" dur="3.63">are they talking to who their social the</text><text start="466.77" dur="4.17">social graph is call meaning the people</text><text start="468.51" dur="3.72">circle of people around them and so</text><text start="470.94" dur="3.42">there are different ways that people are</text><text start="472.23" dur="4.23">then profiled or categorized on the</text><text start="474.36" dur="4.14">basis of their behaviors another thing</text><text start="476.46" dur="4.71">that&amp;#39;s happening is that people again</text><text start="478.5" dur="4.68">through their social media use are being</text><text start="481.17" dur="3.57">profiled in terms of them maybe their</text><text start="483.18" dur="3.3">political affiliations their religion</text><text start="484.74" dur="3.35">their sexual orientation these kinds of</text><text start="486.48" dur="4.32">things</text><text start="488.09" dur="3.91">there&amp;#39;s the companies that were perhaps</text><text start="490.8" dur="3.18">not surprised they&amp;#39;re collecting our</text><text start="492" dur="4.47">data so for example you know the news</text><text start="493.98" dur="4.11">website we go to or maybe the use of</text><text start="496.47" dur="2.85">Google or that kind of thing but then</text><text start="498.09" dur="2.97">there&amp;#39;s the companies that are tracking</text><text start="499.32" dur="3.63">our data that we don&amp;#39;t see that we don&amp;#39;t</text><text start="501.06" dur="3.93">kind of choose so for example when we&amp;#39;re</text><text start="502.95" dur="3.84">looking at website for the news there&amp;#39;ll</text><text start="504.99" dur="2.67">be lots of other what I call third-party</text><text start="506.79" dur="4.18">trackers</text><text start="507.66" dur="6.62">[Music]</text><text start="510.97" dur="6.31">those third party are present some of</text><text start="514.28" dur="5.25">them are present nearly 100 percent of</text><text start="517.28" dur="4.86">your navigation this mean that&amp;#39;s a son</text><text start="519.53" dur="4.68">company at a you are not actually and or</text><text start="522.14" dur="4.23">said to be present in your navigation we</text><text start="524.21" dur="5.28">have not used actively they are still</text><text start="526.37" dur="6.18">looking what are doing and this is</text><text start="529.49" dur="8.28">present on entertainment</text><text start="532.55" dur="6.48">pornography healthcare news this is what</text><text start="537.77" dur="5.64">some people call the data brokering</text><text start="539.03" dur="6.24">industry some of the most I&amp;#39;d say growth</text><text start="543.41" dur="4.08">the growth areas there are things like</text><text start="545.27" dur="6.57">online dating the website discussing</text><text start="547.49" dur="5.43">health issues for example the business</text><text start="551.84" dur="2.94">model for the people who are providing</text><text start="552.92" dur="3.66">the site is to collect your data and</text><text start="554.78" dur="3.33">often sell it one for example in the</text><text start="556.58" dur="3.92">case of health sites to pharmaceutical</text><text start="558.11" dur="2.39">companies</text><text start="580.67" dur="3.129">[Music]</text><text start="609.939" dur="4.541">like that&amp;#39;s why I don&amp;#39;t care you know</text><text start="612.589" dur="5.31">because I think okay no one wants to</text><text start="614.48" dur="5.25">know what I&amp;#39;m doing anyway I mean really</text><text start="617.899" dur="3.93">interesting that everyone says I don&amp;#39;t</text><text start="619.73" dur="3.959">have anything to hug I like I have</text><text start="621.829" dur="3.961">something tonight because I do stuff</text><text start="623.689" dur="2.961">which is against a lot and I think we</text><text start="625.79" dur="11.16">all do</text><text start="626.65" dur="10.3">[Laughter]</text><text start="640.36" dur="3.069">[Music]</text><text start="647.9" dur="6.78">I think it&amp;#39;s kind of a difficult</text><text start="651.53" dur="5.97">question the the the prices people go to</text><text start="654.68" dur="5.67">through in I think justifying their use</text><text start="657.5" dur="4.89">of technology in terms of this business</text><text start="660.35" dur="4.08">model of you know okay I get this for</text><text start="662.39" dur="4.02">free I give over my day sir and I have</text><text start="664.43" dur="4.02">nothing to hide so why do I care and</text><text start="666.41" dur="3.9">maybe it&amp;#39;s a bit creepy maybe it&amp;#39;s a bit</text><text start="668.45" dur="3.36">strange maybe I get so an advert sent to</text><text start="670.31" dur="1.8">me but it doesn&amp;#39;t make any difference to</text><text start="671.81" dur="2.49">me</text><text start="672.11" dur="4.47">and I think that means that for people</text><text start="674.3" dur="3.39">like us who try to argue something</text><text start="676.58" dur="2.76">different that we should care about</text><text start="677.69" dur="3.78">these things it&amp;#39;s quite hard to break</text><text start="679.34" dur="4.08">that barrier part of the reason I think</text><text start="681.47" dur="4.2">this is that how quickly people are</text><text start="683.42" dur="3.87">ready to volunteer that it makes me a</text><text start="685.67" dur="3.42">little suspicious you know that they&amp;#39;re</text><text start="687.29" dur="4.32">like no no I have nothing to hide</text><text start="689.09" dur="4.71">clearly and really they&amp;#39;re thinking</text><text start="691.61" dur="4.68">maybe I&amp;#39;m a little worried about this</text><text start="693.8" dur="4.74">but I don&amp;#39;t I don&amp;#39;t want to be the one</text><text start="696.29" dur="3.51">to say it you think about how people who</text><text start="698.54" dur="3.24">care about surveillance have been</text><text start="699.8" dur="4.8">marginalized you know there are so many</text><text start="701.78" dur="5.13">jokes about wearing the tinfoil hat and</text><text start="704.6" dur="4.05">you know you do you really believe that</text><text start="706.91" dur="3.84">they&amp;#39;re reading your emails when I hear</text><text start="708.65" dur="4.29">someone say that I actually hear them</text><text start="710.75" dur="3.63">say I believe something quite different</text><text start="712.94" dur="3">from this but I don&amp;#39;t want you to know</text><text start="714.38" dur="4.11">that I do because I don&amp;#39;t want to be the</text><text start="715.94" dur="4.14">one who thinks that I&amp;#39;m either near the</text><text start="718.49" dur="3.78">problem with the nothing to fear nothing</text><text start="720.08" dur="4.83">to hide debate is that all of us do have</text><text start="722.27" dur="4.83">something to hide every every single</text><text start="724.91" dur="4.14">adult has probably committed a criminal</text><text start="727.1" dur="3.87">offense in their life it might be</text><text start="729.05" dur="5.88">something quite minor like stealing from</text><text start="730.97" dur="6">work or traffic violations but there are</text><text start="734.93" dur="4.32">many activities that are criminal but</text><text start="736.97" dur="4.44">not necessarily deviant you know the</text><text start="739.25" dur="5.16">criminological literature will tell you</text><text start="741.41" dur="6.87">that a lot of people offend consistently</text><text start="744.41" dur="6.3">you know and it&amp;#39;s in you know that the</text><text start="748.28" dur="4.92">percentage of like 60% more or more</text><text start="750.71" dur="4.8">people will regularly commit offences</text><text start="753.2" dur="5.01">these might be minor offenses so so lots</text><text start="755.51" dur="6.09">of us have have something to hide in</text><text start="758.21" dur="5.07">that respect if you say you have nothing</text><text start="761.6" dur="5.67">to fear because you have nothing to hide</text><text start="763.28" dur="5.61">so be happy not worry I say okay fine</text><text start="767.27" dur="3.3">turn over the keys to your car your</text><text start="768.89" dur="5.1">house all of your passwords all of your</text><text start="770.57" dur="5.67">accounts medical records everything and</text><text start="773.99" dur="5.7">I&amp;#39;ll put them into a special secure</text><text start="776.24" dur="6.59">lockbox but I&amp;#39;m gonna keep it I will</text><text start="779.69" dur="3.14">keep it for safekeeping</text><text start="783.01" dur="5.74">no one I vibed this is now thousands of</text><text start="786.68" dur="5.58">people over the last several years in</text><text start="788.75" dur="5.13">front of multiple audiences no one was</text><text start="792.26" dur="4.32">willing to turn over any of that</text><text start="793.88" dur="11.61">information to me and I&amp;#39;m asking them to</text><text start="796.58" dur="13.05">consent okay so basically what we would</text><text start="805.49" dur="7.11">do is put a spy software on your new</text><text start="809.63" dur="6.11">cell phone which is gonna look at the</text><text start="812.6" dur="5.85">patterns and actually at the things you</text><text start="815.74" dur="5.29">agree are tips okay under terms of</text><text start="818.45" dur="5.64">condition of the after using yeah</text><text start="821.03" dur="6.57">this presto browser we would mostly look</text><text start="824.09" dur="8.43">not really to the contents but what we</text><text start="827.6" dur="8.22">call metadata where you&amp;#39;re going when do</text><text start="832.52" dur="6.06">you browse to whom you talk and</text><text start="835.82" dur="7.55">basically look it will be like what does</text><text start="838.58" dur="4.79">your digital life say yeah</text><text start="846.7" dur="11.62">is it is it like my computer and my cell</text><text start="851.96" dur="8.82">phone yes checked yes okay you know a</text><text start="858.32" dur="7.44">bit like how I am and I don&amp;#39;t really</text><text start="860.78" dur="7.35">consider because that&amp;#39;s what I always</text><text start="865.76" dur="5.79">think what&amp;#39;s what&amp;#39;s what everyone tells</text><text start="868.13" dur="12.87">you that I still think that I have not</text><text start="871.55" dur="11.22">that much too high it&amp;#39;s but in a few</text><text start="881" dur="3.81">years there will be some serious</text><text start="882.77" dur="5.37">drawbacks coming for example if you take</text><text start="884.81" dur="6.72">the insurance industry Facebook just</text><text start="888.14" dur="5.43">really is an algorithm that is able to</text><text start="891.53" dur="4.62">give you some rating some some photo</text><text start="893.57" dur="4.5">credit credit rating which is kind of</text><text start="896.15" dur="3.95">weird when you think about it but</text><text start="898.07" dur="4.62">totally normal in terms of big data</text><text start="900.1" dur="5.71">Facebook is totally able to predict if</text><text start="902.69" dur="3.36">you will pay back your loan or not does</text><text start="905.81" dur="1.92">you</text><text start="906.05" dur="3.45">your point which people do care and I</text><text start="907.73" dur="4.49">think that&amp;#39;s the question of what do</text><text start="909.5" dur="5.339">they care about so do they care because</text><text start="912.22" dur="3.91">they don&amp;#39;t they know that the tax</text><text start="914.839" dur="3.391">inspector is not using these</text><text start="916.13" dur="5.519">technologies to track people do they</text><text start="918.23" dur="4.65">care because they&amp;#39;ve got a family member</text><text start="921.649" dur="3.391">who has a history of mental health</text><text start="922.88" dur="5.16">issues do they care because they</text><text start="925.04" dur="5.07">themselves don&amp;#39;t want to be given a</text><text start="928.04" dur="4.41">different you know deal in terms of you</text><text start="930.11" dur="3.45">know now very high life in a health</text><text start="932.45" dur="3.09">insurance cost because of their</text><text start="933.56" dur="4.08">lifestyle this kind of thing credit</text><text start="935.54" dur="4.89">rating is totally predictable it will</text><text start="937.64" dur="4.71">happen in a few years your personal</text><text start="940.43" dur="4.17">information the one you are willingly</text><text start="942.35" dur="5.04">putting online and Facebook Twitter all</text><text start="944.6" dur="4.77">this thing will give you credit rating</text><text start="947.39" dur="4.59">and if you end up with a bad credit</text><text start="949.37" dur="4.68">rating well you asked for it you were</text><text start="951.98" dur="4.41">the one thinking that you had nothing to</text><text start="954.05" dur="3.99">hide I like to speak about intimacy and</text><text start="956.39" dur="3.449">if fundamental rights seem like</text><text start="958.04" dur="3.63">something remote something you may not</text><text start="959.839" dur="3.481">want to care about because you know you</text><text start="961.67" dur="3.75">have to fill your fridge you have to pay</text><text start="963.32" dur="6.6">the rent you have to wipe the the baby&amp;#39;s</text><text start="965.42" dur="6.419">ass and whatnot then an intimacy is not</text><text start="969.92" dur="2.94">what you&amp;#39;re willing to give up you</text><text start="971.839" dur="4.971">understand what it means</text><text start="972.86" dur="8.34">intimacy is those spaces where you are</text><text start="976.81" dur="6.219">truly yourself either alone all with</text><text start="981.2" dur="4.32">people you decide to share this intimacy</text><text 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dur="8.61">song in survival and this is where mass</text><text start="2725.88" dur="7.77">surveillance shows its true face of an</text><text start="2729.84" dur="6.99">instrument of social control this is the</text><text start="2733.65" dur="5.88">main purpose the main effect of mass</text><text start="2736.83" dur="5.13">surveillance is to keep populations</text><text start="2739.53" dur="6.36">under the diffuse</text><text start="2741.96" dur="7.38">impression that if they say something or</text><text start="2745.89" dur="5.25">if they do something that may make them</text><text start="2749.34" dur="5.58">look like they have something to hide</text><text start="2751.14" dur="6.21">that may be something worth hiding then</text><text start="2754.92" dur="6.03">people will know about it so they better</text><text start="2757.35" dur="4.98">not say it and not do it this is how it</text><text start="2760.95" dur="2.49">works in every</text><text start="2762.33" dur="6.93">authoritarian 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