<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?><transcript><text start="0.37" dur="5.159">[Music]</text><text start="2.47" dur="3.059">[Applause]</text><text start="8.62" dur="5.49">good experience practical experience</text><text start="10.45" dur="6.63">that we&amp;#39;ve had in in Laos which was</text><text start="14.11" dur="7.169">about using the convenient power of the</text><text start="17.08" dur="5.97">European Union to to influence the</text><text start="21.279" dur="5.811">policy dialogue with a government</text><text start="23.05" dur="7.52">especially on illegal wildlife trade</text><text start="27.09" dur="7.69">Laos over the recent years has been</text><text start="30.57" dur="6.64">increasingly subject to two scrutiny and</text><text start="34.78" dur="5.52">there the situs mechanism which is a</text><text start="37.21" dur="6.869">conventional illegal trade of endangered</text><text start="40.3" dur="8.54">species and therefore there were some</text><text start="44.079" dur="9.901">risks of Laos offering trade sanctions</text><text start="48.84" dur="8.739">not only casting a bad light on on Laos</text><text start="53.98" dur="8.97">and how it was promoting illegal</text><text start="57.579" dur="9.451">wildlife trade but also showing how weak</text><text start="62.95" dur="7.529">its rule of law was how poorly</text><text start="67.03" dur="6.42">coordinated directions were so the you</text><text start="70.479" dur="7.651">together with other international</text><text start="73.45" dur="9.47">partners namely the UK also Germany also</text><text start="78.13" dur="9.659">the US we brought together a</text><text start="82.92" dur="8.53">consultative group whereby we were</text><text start="87.789" dur="6.261">coordinating actions either supports or</text><text start="91.45" dur="2.6">policies</text></transcript>