okay let me say welcome to the visitorsfrom America and Asia and I will talkabout the Neo 900 project which is quitenew and I know that will draw a lot ofinterest to this presentation so what isthe Neo 900 it is thought to be thefirst true successor of the n900 whichis a device match which was made tominus mu PR this one and the idea isthat we improve the internals of thisn900 at least to the state we have fromthe GTA of what we use the experiencenology we know and to be evil littlebetter by providing of mantle which isGod on a project to rework the 45software to run on this new device aswell and to provide a faster cpu moreRAM and let's hope ite modem to this a900 design this oil is planned to bebased on the GTA overall design coursewe know it just mature we know what canbe done wrong in designing with hishardware yeah and the idea is to provideeither ready to use devices or amotherboard up dredge underwaterengagement as the GTA 04 is father ofmobile devicesthe project team the our crisis weaponis an automotive veteran most of youknow them Morgan he has initiated thisproject this is his idea so he is sortof a project and product manager yesthen myself for contributing the GTA orfor knowledge and experience so my rolewill be more on the development side soit will be based on the to TA or 40 sideand we have an internal project name gk4 p 7t mini port variant number severalremember the presentation from thisafternoon there was a v8 which was theidea of making a GTA or for and withwords what form factor so this is acrossdifferent board ideas and it needs someeternal named the official name of thedevice that will recite from risk isnear 900 and then we have Sebastian isalso well known in moco and he is in shrand active physically but he has donefor this project so far is not a verygood club on the back page though it washis but his design of the near 900 pagesso for the idea I think that I don'tshow something that you all already knowit is the video we have produce that'sawesome advertising skip now we can skipbackso we have done a video to describe theidea and I will take the chance toexplain it a little more because thevideo along has no no explanation exceptthe sometimes so the idea will be in todisassemble the device the n900 which isnot very difficult just open six screwsand then you can take off the displaypart and then pop out the keyboard andthe Nokia other board comes out and thenthat's it well you have to unlockdisplay connector careful pregnant nowthe idea is now we have the GTA 04 werun a case there is a board withoutdisplay that is I was swapped but andthe idea is to put that in original formfactor of course does not fit so we haveto do somethingnow for this ed on for making this videowe have made we had made of thrust papermodel which just shows the contour ofthe new pc and well then add a modulefrom heat solution for my notice theyhave some spacing rings the reason tohave some spacing rings is that we donot have enough space in the originaldisk language is really a puzzle tosqueeze everything in do not have enoughto put in additional things so there isno Cuba 20 millimeter inside the idea isto have a stack of to PCBs that youbegin to that pace finally the displaymodule as it is will be mounted on topthen this is a complete nice the videoshows per CPU can be on the package onpackage memory but the keyboard we havedifferent options to evaluate thissample some of you may remember this isa prototype that was originally made forGTA or for using buttons that can besoldiers doc and this will be the newyork 900so this was the idea some weeks ago andwe need to put some prototypes then weask the community from formations it setup the web page yo that was the statuswhen we did start sorry I think theseveral thousands yes it will make thephone to come by two millimeters that isthe space you need of having to disabuseyes the display and the keyboard bothare running higher so that it affect youcan later see it on the samples we havethis how it works the reason is if yourlook here at the original device forexample dancing here is a whole we arethink that is whether original on thatprocess of n900 city so they have madereal puzzle components so that they fitand that case if you rebuild this thenwe have to use the same componentscannot change anything we cannot havelge cannot add more memory well we couldadd the faster cpu but that is the sameI our frequency great but to get spacefor additional things we just needs bothcars so that way and let's refer thespaces or four and the ideas took threedeep red or similar technology to make agreat mounted so that youoh that connects us the slider providingmechanism is the same as it is you justtrust using longer screws so themounting is expected to be the same sothen we could have project phases wedefine in them first phase take resultup to attend g6 face and currently weare in phase 4 but what are these phasesit's the first one was that short wellwe will be developing something costs alittle money we asked a community forreal donations and for five thousandeuro we can do some schematics make someidentify some components make an initialmechanical PCB design so that we candraw all the stacking works and that thePCP fits into that case because you haveto have the right shape the next phaseis that we do not only do PCBs that rollthe shape but have real functionality sowe put on a modem or CPU connecteverything together so that we can startwriting software and we can be back thistype of harder for example did weconnect headset correctly how is thesound quality and so on and then thethird phase is to build a little biggerset of prototypes fixing the boxdetected by the second phase done thenmake its production ready the fourthphase is a production we just needenough devices to get the price down towork it's a reasonable level as wenovice title I do not know the exactnumber but i think it was about same ashejo for what and well that's areasonable estimate because boppin atUGA or four and this is almost the samemay may have a small difference in thememory we plan to heaven emmc lash onwhat but that's not not that making sucha big difference so the goal of thephase 4 is to get 200 devices or wealmost got what the devices and phase 5which would be happy to reach 1000 unitsbecause that would make us live mucheasier was going to a componentsuppliers asking for 200 memory chipsthe memory chips probably know that youcan just get them from micron hynix andcomes out almost nobody else is makinghigh density memory and all of them havea minimum order quantity micron has 1000units and you must be lucky said thatsomebody else would give back and say802 a distributor and then they sellthem signatures that can happen once peryear so you have to monitor the shoppage of the piston pewter and just belucky to order at the right moment butif you have 1000 unit that's much easieryou say transport once 1000 and thenthey say okay as a delivery time of sixweeks thank you now even more morehigher stretch goal would be thats aone-horse musics per month if we wouldbe able to extend the project to come tothis phase six we would have muchdifferent options we could think aboutmaking new plastics not needing thatspace a mechanism anymore look thinkaboutdisplay some some users asked abouthaving a capacitive touch and so on sothat is about the faces of this projectand work behind the scenes totally phaseone boss God reach 5000 0 and this wasrich berry for us so thank you very muchto all those who donated into thedevelopment fund yeah and they have donesome work and that is what I built showso we have a mechanical prototype and alittle more thump electrical things arealso block so what we have is out here aPCB and you see the songs think that isalready in you and Jess module batteryconnector and this 16 into outcases almost correct the most resemblesour minority to leave the camera backbut already fits and then we have asecond part taking one with notconnectors and some experiments forkeyboard display connector so thedisplay partly like this see previousand this second part isthen we add screws to close it then wehave the neo anonymity they're stillhave the slider the key fob is comingout so that is the mechanical part andnow let's remove that one because and tosee the operation what we have done isto allow it to the battery connect youto the mall and power the module themodule has be directly connected toevery use no there's no cpu in betweenat the moment you want to change that soagain knocking the battery and enemiesice to power one and co-operation andnow i plug it into USB okay andeverything works yes it has found somenew network connection i cannot open theterminal program here we see thisfolding f1 that is the modem okay let'shave a travel narrow make with a littlelargerso a knowledge should mark I have type Ato you mine okay it says it's a sinterrible mph s80 that's what we have puton the board so this appears to workthen let's enable something think thatfor extended error messages then let'slook at the pin yes it's ready I have asim card with no endings I so did nothave to type it we can enable clip andsome more things okay let's look at thesignal quality okay 10 good work I bythe way it is connected to the Nokiaantenna so let's use some of the morespecial commands all these AT commandsare standard in the gsm-r 3gppdefinitions now there are always somecommands that are defined by the modemmanufacturer they are quite similar tothat what we know from the option modulein the TGA or for the only difference isthat they are not 80 underscore own but80 this sign + s and then we can saymore monitor on ok it looks like we areconnected to it a 2g network here II ands mong ji gives something moreinformation that's the money to our forshowing which networks are received sowhat you do is monitoring the basestations it is seeing and here you getthe list of them ok it has to see Chiand 12 g base station so you get thelist of all the neighbor cowards and yesI'm effect yes that's the list ofnegatives so let's try to ring upsomeone so who is giving me a phonenumber 173 them ok be my smart watchthis ring Vega ok ok ok then you canhang up ok I think I should have givensome y 80 command so that we could haveseen you the hang up on or carriermessage so now let's try the worst thingyou can you fall back I'm not sure thedrugs or if you end up in the answeringmachineshould should say that it is written inbut it doesn't match on your wife oh itshould have set a ring okay maybe youshould have done this before I don'tknow so and finally we can say 80s mmsold switch off no it's off and nothingwas going on ok so I think we alreadyhave a little more and interface one andnext thanks to both of you veryinteresting so let's go back to thepresentation so far this is just somephotos for those reading through theslides afterwards so here you see whatyou will and one more note on that thismodule s was some size and trying to sethere which will advise as a model that'simpossible you won't get a modem thatfits into the space of the n900 modembecause lettuce tassel I inventionso these are the commands that I haddone so again what's the next thing wewant to exchange that by basicallykeeping this type of fault making someminor redesign and adding a CPU sobasically you can think about this beinga modem world better reflect means incar and this is CPU award so if somebodywants to have a different model to havebeen discussions of putting on her TICalypso on something like this is notdifficult to design a modem port thedifferent radio technology on that arekeeping the CPU and keyboard the Wi-Fiwe have not yet decided there are wellas a matter of connecting it the antennais better on them on the lower part asyou say the mold involved just betterfor the internet connection who need tokeep that frog F to put the Wi-Fi modemon that as well but then we have dataconnection to the CPU going throughbusiness connectors or vice versa andwell usually it's easier to have dataconnection frequent connectors andradiofrequency though most did you wouldlikely be on the lower court as wellwhich would make it easier to upgradethat without need you to flow away theCPU and maybe a other side notetriggered by your question is atmulti-sports this modem board here isjust a small layer board as for copperlayers which is much less expensive thanwhat we need for the CPU authority youlike verb GTA or 4 processor children'sdefining that median age layer so mostlikely this part will be twice expensivethan that or even more more than twiceso the motor board and much easier bereplaced from your PC vehicles otherhand module of course is to not a cheapcomponent yes no problem you can justnot mounted uniques the need both ballsthis is just a bare cpu without batteryconnection and the battery connectionsalways here no it has the same displayas the n900 to survive vga so now whileyou are while i am continuing that i canenter goingso what's next in phase two we will fixthe box that we have identified alreadymentioned the position how far apart wealso the mounting holes in the PCPD theyare the off the right position by tensof 1000 to can return that you want toadd of you can do all your projects isplaying connection touch screen acrossthe upper ball is you are alreadybrought one LS land to the lower partabout the keyboard you are not exactlysure yet how to do that what of coursekeep the plastic part of the n900keyboard because that is the letters arewritten on we want to keep the keyboardillumination and well original and 900is made by a special thing or dope sheetand that is something you can't buyanywhere except as it's about half themedium and building such a project onlyon to our parts let's edit if you cometo have to do it on complete demise buthaving the central components in spareus that's very critical so we risk thatin half a year we just don't get thatone sim then we can scrap all the restso we are working on the illuminationthey are working on this spacer in thenext phase and want to build around fivedevices that can really run from someoperating system because when the rockcan run an operating system we can testthe mode and we can test the suspendpower management it can test whathappens on how the modem can make up theCPU on an incoming call and all thesethings we can start to test GPSone issue is about getting components injersey voters um even if we really wasthe case keyboard and the slidermechanism with display we still needsome components that must fit into thegame one of them are the push buttonscamera partner of course we want to havea new cpu these are things that we knowhow to do it we have found replacementsno problem to get them or have evenfound the original part which is comingfrom a major manufacturer but some ofthe buttons are coming from Panasonic soyou can trust a lot of them we know thepart number and trust me but the CPU weknow that you want to use the vmthreesome 30 in one gigahertz for thememory on gigabyte RAM well this tothird issue one is that too littledifficult to get one back ram for thehome x3 these trips are trusted reallyavailable my chrome has fun type of tripand but they have a meeting of all thequantity of 1 charles is really sothat's this inner be sure i havementioned get 1000 units it's mucheasier to get one gigabyte ram it's notimpossible with this 200 units hascounted land but it's now replacing theUSB connector by a riddle OTG connectorthat's very easy just look in thecatalog and find one good TS alreadyhere have the PHS module a te is thereis trust these days some carrion isstarting to ship a new value and on pls8 which is an ATV variant has the samefootprint the same dimensionseverything's the same just soldierexcept one point that's a henna theantennae of n900 muslim not optimizedfor LTE so that's something we not yetever confuse him a really criticalAugust display connector that's wellmaybe the community has an idea thedisplay connector you know the partnumber two specific them from all eggsbut it's absolute or end of life whichmeets all X is no longer producing itand they have no replacement why do weneed this display connector be neededbecause the display module has aflexible cable and there is the matchingpart is already soldier to that so if wewant to reuse the display module as itis we need the right connector and thatis something going to not really have asolution there are three distributorsjust by a chance give leadership youjust we just who still list it but ifyou get in contact they say oh no it'smore legs is no longer deliberate thoughwe do not have spectrum a class of todaybut that's happening and that's part ofthis type of project we did have similarsituations for the GTA or for where wedid you have to do in search quite along time to find something or a goodreplacement but at the end all the waysare now this keyboard thing I've alreadymentioned the global sheet well we cango to a nokia spam transcript and getthese things these are available but youdon't know how long and quantities andthe same at the moment for batteryconnect dot this is a quite specialthing but it's not that difficult view Ithink there's some time thinking aboutthat you could eatsign our own basement now the SD cardreader and the Civil reader that we haveidentical again we have identified theritual or a replacement part that's notproblem to get it now that thing whathave the replacement yet is the camerasoccer team boss that is it's not reallya special thing we know thespecification that's why the mobile isto the Alliance that have specified dataconnector but do not have the sauce Godthere are some context prints if youlook at the PCP they contact antenna forexample we have trust God's come fromice ramparts they are a little specialin dimension it's easier to get bigsprings but not that small that is mdmountable God finally the audio codecthat is a standard shin from texasinstruments we can still commuters yeahso the status as of yesterday and Ithink today we already have is 81devices so far away from the next goalof 200 a destined to go to over 1000yeahwe have already reached almost reachthem building 1000 good night yeah andnow here I think we have tons left underthe little better part then by usingKickstarter or digo go on anothercrowdfunding platform they usuallyusually have a fixed limit in time andeventually you reach that when it's okayit's not all the projects maatraan buthere still we have no limits in alldirections everyone can still jump inany time any level so while we arealready starting to develop that wasdone by the phase 1 2 & 3 donationseveryone who wants to support thisproject can trust or from in andincrease the number of units we want tobuild yeah some learnings from movingbed especially this type of funding Ithink I should add some words on howthis sunday was was planned and involvedone idea is of this type of funding weneed a development funds firstdevelopment costs money of third partieswe have to go to some assembly house wehave to buy PCBs we have my componentslet these real money and that is thedevelopment market they have thought inthese first three phases that this aresort of donations as long as we cannotsay that the project is really going toproduction so we use part of this moneyas we need that if the project failsbecause we simply cannot find a solutionfor the display connector for examplethen the remaining money will be givenback so that's sort of the venturecapital coming from those interested inthis project to help that to bedevelopedif it goes to production it runs thestandard way that if we build 200 unitsthen we calculate what do the componentscost was what was the production costand what has the development what wasthe development costs and disk ifsurprise as usual and then mongoosedonations are subtracted from the finalprice so that the end everybody gives asmall contribution to the developmentand only those who donated into thebeginning it really have a higher riskso I think this to face the way ofworking that oops crowdfunding such aproject God coming back to this lightwell you don't need a Kickstarterplatform what does Kickstarter offer itoffers a nice page for project offers tomanage money offers this limit in timeand in budget what we didn't know whatto use enter them both yeah the minimumI'm Amina a lower limit upper limit intime and the lower limit in margin so ifyou're yesyou can t find that in kickstarterbecause the limiting kickstarter is inform of money no we have done itdifferently we have donations starting atenure so they have been donations of 10euros because somebody says well it'sworth to move a little to that yeahbut you could do it with Kickstarterforce but my main point is if you areneeded the other point now what doesexalted do an addition of energy moneyit is giving publicity but evenKickstarter they say in the frequentlyarticle asked questions what makes thesuccess of a project and they write tocome about tell it to your socialnetwork totally idea to to the communitythat is already interested and that isthe point you already have that hereeveryone the hall and the looks areCatholics community that is interestedtherefore the important thing is have agood idea and the community that findsthat idea attractive and irresistible ifyou have that campaign is successful ifit is not attractive then it will not bea successfully so basically our learningis can organize that yourself also savesa little money because starter they taketheir fee for their service what what isrequired is to describe what is plannedand which challenges are expected andbecause you're incredible by showingthat other projects are already run mustbe responsive and open we open like weare today that's why we show what wealready have gotten so there are somelearnings from that no so visit thispage and no floor is open for Christmaswhatthat is just from from the idea to haveGTA or force the bases because we knowthat making it better as it's replacingmy phone when you ripped module that youdo want yet no but it is very likelythat we will prevent the reason is thereare about five or six of 10 differentWi-Fi Bluetooth modules available takesus instruments that is as we use there'swhite x to y as we have been in thetutorial for they have a newer trip thatmarble and Umbra silicon radio inside sothat is something we have not yetdecided what we do know but we will nowstart into the second and third phase wecould start to look at that you'll neverdo and well our goal is always to havethe highest possible thing and it's onlylimited by availability of chips anddocumentation and availability of chipscan do that the best chip is onlyavailable to buy 100,000 units then wehave a small problemwhat Christiansquestion from lova ya virus is thescreen because it's already in thereit's part of the concept to the displaysm yeahyeah the crest is about this goal sheetwhat it is clearly to be it is a lighttransmission system so there are sixLEDs on the PCB putting in light fromthe side ended this abuse alive uniformyou come under the buttons and it iscombined with the real buttons so italso has the electrical contacts so theplastic part you see with the keys inrig move on that is just plastic andthey press on the stone sheet dome inbed and Paige are pressed on the pc deepand they gives the electrical continentand this is a combine thing yeah yeah well they they it's really apuzzle and it's from an engineeringpoint of looting and 900 is reallybrilliant how to squeeze all this toevery square of the communityit's not desired because we want to keepthe illumination that is with aclassical voice a more difficult alreadysicker or has a different haptics nowit's something we will also work onthings now in the next phase the mostprimitive solution is to use these dogsI've drawn from this GTA or four key Bobprototype twist over the years these arecomponents that you can order fromPanasonic and they are trust soldieredon it and then you have to make themdon't saw placed made of metal and glasscompressor but the elimination of thatis not easyOhother questionsyeah good one idea is to have itcompatible to the GTA of war fromsoftware side so it will do everythingwe know and the other goal is to havethis mental IMO 5 so just possible tochoose between them that can get my mobooty local maybe sh 0yes it will need some adjustments andthat's what the three mandrel projectorsthe core of that was to make Justinadjustment the other hand we try to keepthe hardware as close as necessary nothis toes as possible close is necessaryto the n900 normal bits well I'm not aspecialist of Fremantle you're good tosay more about that my understanding isthat Fremantle is my hero five minusthings that are two specific avariciousif you can replace sometimes so therelationship is more like enter itversus replicant so Android andreplicant memo and free meant and thenof course Joe s has a hardwareadaptation to the specificyeah sorryby that 15 likes there's no timelineinterfaces but the faces yes yes buthaving the budget still needs to do thework we have finished the work of phaseone and we have the budget almost thebudget for phase form so we arecontinuing to brush and the realisticgate will be the second quarter of nextyear as mentioned the next steps will beto adjust the boards to have parts thatyou already know and fix them then totransplant the CPU from the TTA orthought this part connect everything andlearn what is wrong this will need someage 10 12 weekshmmok that's a good proposal to have therock rock rock rock progress that waylet's go to this here now to have ablock progress from right here andwithout reproach yeah ok ok the mostchallenging part at the moment it'sgetting getting the display connectoryoung getting the required by myselfthey will job from Harper sideline bythis two layers stacked brooch we haveplenty of spaces with more surface inthis Portland chekeo floor has sothere's no routing lay odds you shouldexpect well and that may may come upunexpected things like power managementis not working the last thing and thatmay need a lot of time to analyze whatis really goingthe other was I think I wasn't of peoplemouse mention I 67 hundreds of between507 it's a little too early to make aclear announcement on that because weneed to know exactly which componentsare in how many units we want to buildthen we can ask the component suppliersand production what will it cost beforewe do not know that everything is aguess and if they make a load to goguess then that does the money come fromto prove againOhya know ok the question is what happensif we reach the 1000 units and whathappens with those over Kate here it isthe plan is as soon as we go that it cango to production look how many minutesit will be then the Mississippi todivide but I take the total cost dividedby the number of Lewis and we havesurprised per unit and then all of thisdomain is a rebate so come over thelighting early as long yeahyep yeah then in your waiting foranother pen now now the issue is thatcause of death of you manage to form aselementals lagging behind budget cannotstart even feet from the next two weekswe cannot start production in two pieceof yes then of course the price will godown for everybody no personnelthat's a question not you thought aboutwell well I don't know you've been oneof those I would be happy to get therebate on the other end to really get ityou don't get a rebate because on thefirst can you first do it because 10,000hours yah gather is something going inthat direction is very small they hadsome very cheeky donations five or sixand those passes then we'll get up oneof these nearly early prototype so focuseither from the next personalsecond phase of third phase becausethere we already build devices that wehope that they work they will get one ofthese for starting development or trustshowing we have one of the first fiveprototypes of that project and inaddition they will get a final pricegoodokyou