russia ramps up its deadly assault onukraine negotiators from moscow and kievare meeting once again to try to reach adiplomatic end to the warthe talks restarted today an aide to theukrainian president zielinski who was atthe meeting says that thethat they discussed a potentialceasefire and troop withdrawal but therussian foreign minister sergey lavrovsays moscow still needs ukraine todemilitarize and abandon its efforts tojoin natolet's bring in evo dalter now he's aformer u.s ambassador to nato during theobama administration ambassador thankyou zelinski's aide says the talks havebeen difficult and vicious but heinsists there's still room forcompromise do you believe itwell i hope so i mean clearly uhgetting a a political solution to thisthat leads to the withdrawal of russianforces and a return to uh at least thethe status quo ante before uh before thewar started would be a terrific thinggiven all the damage and that is beingdone uh but i do think the two sides areare pretty far apart and uh they can'teven agree on on a local ceasefire toallow humanitarian aid to come intoplaces like mario poll that have nowbeen besieged for over a weeksoi think we have to be realistic thechances are smallwhat kind of message do you thinkpresident biden is sending by going toeurope and what if anything will itactually accomplishi think it's an important message by thepresident to say thatwe stand with our allies uh first of allin nato which is why he's having aa meeting of nato it's very importantthat nato address and start adjusting tothe new reality of a of a strongmilitarily capable uh russia that uh uhis obviously willing to use force to getwhat it uh what it wants uh and that weadjust to that so that's number one andnumber two he's going to also have ameeting with our european allies in theeuropean union and it's it's the verysanctions and economic steps that europeand the united states and many othercountries have been taken that is reallyputting the squeeze on russiaand ultimately to those sanctions andthe political isolation uh that we areengaged in through our diplomacy uh thathopefully will will lead to a change inrussian policy if not a change inrussian leadership quickly before we golots of pressure no putin movement whatmoves the needleyou know i think the only thing thatmoves the needle is for the people ofrussia uh and those around putin torealize that uh he has led them into adead end a very costly dead end for theeconomy for the people for the russiansoldiers and russian families and ofcourse for ukrainians and to say uhenough is enough and it's time to moveonthank you so much for your time tonightshepard smith here thanks for watchingcnbc on youtube