plug in your cell phone to charge andyour cell phone is not a storage deviceand you disconnect your cell phone itdoesn't warn you that you're going tolose any gap okayit only beeps at you when you want it tobeep at you on it when you are sittingin a command prompt and you type ejectwhatever your USB stick is and you pullit out it doesn't tell you that you'veperformed an illegal operation if youinsert a USB stick and it appears thatthe filesystem is dirty it will promptto run check disk on the stick it won'tjust leave you with an accessible stickand you're wondering oh where my phoneis go so here's a little bit of thatokay so there's Drive in and if I comeover here oopshere's drivin and if I open up I'm goingto show you all about X view in a momentbut if I open this up I go to drive in Ican right click and drive in and tell toeject drive in and wake up Wow okay nowit gets betterI want to reinsert drive in and isavailable I know we don't see an overhere we know about that we're fixing butnow what I can do is I can do somethinglike thisto write this directory brought N and Ican do that and the widget knows thatI've legally dismounted the device nowlet me show you something else is prettyniftyI read assert my stick anddown here I'm going to run anotherdirectory on and then what I want to dois I'm going to do that for those of usthat can't sit it would says USB driveend was unplugged without being ejectedplease reattach the USB device to avoiddata loss so now anything that wascached is still cached and now the cachewas just written back out to the disk Ididn't lose any data okay that's nicegood in here not what I was talking hereand by the way all of this widget workis rich WalshI'll bait you may be familiar with withRich's work with drag text and at theend see that's top maintenance tool richsaid what can I work on first and I saidwe need a new removable device widgetand I don't want to call it a USB widgetbecause eSATA is a hot pluggabletechnology and one day we will havesupport for hot pluggable eSATA deviceswe don't have proper support for thatjust like no operating system has propersupport for that they tell you thateSATA is fully hot plug comfortableyou can hot-plug under windows you'regoing to upload under linux and losedata under both but one day that's goingto work properly the widget should beintelligent enough to work with thattype of connection just as easily as USBso I said I don't want us be part of thename think of this as a removable toMartin squeegee so he said ok we alreadyhave a removal device which what's oneof the one we have sorry alright let mego down the list and a little bit is theproblem so he said ok ok let me look atit he comes back to me he says you knowyou're right how about this and this iswhat we have and the configuration isvery simple right now it's really justthat but that's it it says audible artsso it gives a little beat when youinsert something yes sir could youplease if you could shut that well verygood idea yes great yeah that repose thedarkest dark yeah they got two of themfor that just that purpose yeahso although alert so he'll be if youwant it to be that doesn't have to be ifyou don't want it to be good and runcheck disk so if you put in a stickthat's dirtyit will run check this for you totighten we need to run check there'scome this this video at the board and ina run I'm not testing to check thiswould be part I have to actuallymake a stickuseless enough that I can damage you'renot losing any not not just in casefirst rule of testing try not to rockyour tail what about the others isn't asmuch of this with like it NTFS formattedany state that you can if you canrecognize this in other words if youhave an NTFS file system drivers thenyes that word hpfs works the same wayright do I have there is there is anNTFS driver I don't know that we want toship the NTFS Drive of the livecertainly should actually I'm asking onhpfs for nightsticks what about the netdrive stuff is that connector um wellnot no net drive in removable yeah itdoesn't I have to think about how thatwould all work together because naturaldoesn't work that to me in other wordsum it has to be there already before youget mounted yeah pretty muchAndroid doesn't deal with it with hotportable - right - but the idea is thatit's essentially file system agnosticokayand as I say I can do this in Japannow that's an interesting part I am hechecked twice and you know what it isthey just because music goes for Osterhas a lockerit's actually a 4 OS to bring up configsays well Horace to the authormaintainer is busy talking if any now itwon't automatically send out to theireverything okay that was our forWestchester so that's a bit of the thenew widget my on XWyeah we should I wish that I wish itfour hours to an active maintainer Iknowwhatever um the extra you land of widgetis there which you'll recognize yeahbombers and pop-ups and your standardcomplement of widgets from from x1 to Xgoes right now that's looking eitherbecausecould we yarn the regular go controlparty could we uh client quiet the den alittle bit guys recovery teammate ifthere's stuff to be discussed could youdiscuss it in the in the meeting room orout of that thing so we don't have thethe rumble we've got some slightlydifferent graphics for the standardcontrols we're hoping to have a newbutton for the ARCA button but wehaven't put it together yet let's see ifit makes it the archive button willessentially do what the X button doesnow but it should have instead of thesethings being many choices here theseshould be buttons down the left and itshould have a menu on the right side butthat still we need the planning stage anumber of things will likely not shippedwith iOS 5.0 some of those things willthen be available as updates to ourgoais my point out some things will bedeferred to archive iOS 5.1 argos 5.2 orarc OS 6 and yes we are planning thatflapsum so some other programs that we havefor you some installed software some ofthese things will be installable at thetime of operating system installationfor us to open office will be there'ssnap graphics which should look fairlyfamiliar to anyone who's already gotsnapped installed none of this hasreally changed this is this is the firstAlpha of the snap builds screensaverwill be there this is our new DVD burnerit is based on DVD toys from echosoftware yeah they had no command lineinterface they actually ruined the onein CDR tools is that different our whatdid you want to see them leave for thecommand line on right now we havesomething where you can call it forgrand line included the script and ifthat play you know if you see in StephenArcher yeah and you know and thisprevents the ER till it's running sothis uses a special bill to see the artoh yeah that's built using live c05uh-huhwe have an open request rebuild based onoh six and in fact this installation ofCDR tools of DVD tools does not have CDRtools installed that's why there's no Ohprison here because we haven't settledthe build of CDR tools of worship okaythe plan would be to have a useful buildto see more about what that would bethat would fix DDD toys as far as I'mconcerned they're you know is there acapture function in their attacks orfunction is in capturing capture CD ordvd did is oh oh can we create ISO filesfrom this we cannot we can burn diskimages actually there but we cannotcreate ISOs okay if you have a need forthat functionality that you need topurchase the DVD toys license which youcan purchase from the arc the arc o astore open umsee here's the trade-off we wanted toinclude basic functionality in theoperating system because we believed andwe still continue to believe that anoperating system needs to be useful outof the box you should not have toinstall it and then go ahead and buyfifteen other things to be able to usethe computer to that end we neededcertain applications we need an archivetool we needed size some ability to burndisk cleaning up but we didn't want todiscourage the upgrade and purchase ofcommercial applications designed forthis purpose so we're left with twochoices either we have feature limitedversions or we have time limitedversions which are just demosessentially there is absolutely nothingin our Co that will require you to buyanything elsenothing will timeout nothing will stopworking 30 days out you get it it willwork forever as it is if your computerlasts forever it will continue to runfor it and all the functionality thatyou had from the day you installed itwill continue to function guaranteed nobut threat guarantee that's guaranteedwith without a possibility of breakingit didn't um so the the offset then thethe alternative is what limited featureset can we add without increasing thecost of the base product so much that itit becomes equivalent to buying theoperating system and buying a fulllicense for the software on top so wesettled on a number of features one ofthe features we decided natural includewas the ability to rip optical media tocreate ISO files most people need theability to burn ISOs not to rip themright so we didn't include the abilityto rip we don't include um audio CDmanipulation so if you want to createaudio CDs then you need to any DVD toysfor them um but if you've got an ISOthat you need to burn you have a DVDimage so you've got to kind of burn forsomething no problem you have DVDs youwant to copy copy DVDs well I supposethat you already have a license for DVDtoys can you refrain from it's ours nowand use the license you are absolutelyabsolutely for that without a doubtthere is no problem just like what Isaid about net drive if you get the fullversion not a problemnotwe'll continue to work with this andjust install your existing license andyou're good to go but it will have thethen-current build of Firefox right nowthis is the latest that's that'savailable and it will have the latestbuild of Thunderbird and the latestbuild of SEMA you can install one noneor all of them as you see fit this isthe new version of the seed the seed 1.4will ship with the product and I seethat we're going to the side of a screenhere you can tell this is not anacceleratedchipsetOhI'll give that my my buttons aligned nowbecause it's squished the screen down wehave we're having some discussion aboutgetting the Help button always a linelike that so you're gonna have continueswhat Sam you're going to have to tapeyour screen now yeah know what it is isbecause on here it shifts for widescreenmode two four two three and once I shiftthe screen mode it moves everything intoplace this is the new version of snapall right oh sorry of the seat and ituses the the pop of the latest popularlibraries member libraries things xcp fQP fu and it's got online help now andif you have the GBM plugin from seedinstalled it will add that helpwhat's JD GBM is the Jeremias bitmapmodule and it reads a number of formatslet me give you a quick overview of thethis one I don't have I don't have aload sorry I just have the help fileinstall buttonit reads instead of the three fourminutes that the jpeg library reads ithas on the list that's about that thisis a plugin from the C's plugin for usit yeah what I'm from receipt as a freeplugin it's available you can downloadfrom Hobbes our instructions forinstalling it and I'm going to work withthe offer about getting that health Kyleand I cobbled together included in thenext release of that so to install thatplug-in it will add that help file tothe to the list you'll be able to gethelp on the on the plugin as well as theapplication if you have a PDF loaded andyou want to see what what crazy fontsare used in the document there's a listof fonts we can thank great for thatprescriptive did most of the work ongetting receipt where Marie's right nowthere was something about Donna'sdocument that tells us what created youcan tell this is the original snapmanual because it was a Microsoft Worddocumentis the same something for which thesource is available absolutely it Lucyis an open source project close to thatnecklace leucine is actually I shouldn'tsay we've seen is a dual licensedproject so you can have open sourceplugins in Lucy and you can havecommercial plugins and you see thelicense for Lucy itself is flexibleum neck dry right I showed you yesterdayThunderbirdthat's the new network adapter utilitynow many of you using ECS to point to atattoo I've seen an earlier prototype ofNAB'sKnapp's is now more full-featured it'sgot to happen it somewhere it's got tohelp there we go and you can do allsorts of things with with naps you canswap the the adapter out very easily fora different a different network adapterand leave all of your bindings in placeit's a much more intuitive interfacethan the old IBM MPTs utility and itdoesn't well this hopefully doesn'tlunge any of your configuration filesthat does wireless stuff also right itdoes well it does wireless in the sensethat it will bind a protocol as awireless adapter in this case when I didthis install the only adapter I tryenable and configure those a lifelinethat was that's right and that was theonly ones listed but essentially througheven the MBTs a wireless adapter and awire adapter look exactly the same it'sjust another connector like um let's seewhat else can I show you I can show youbecause that you know for running a newhardware manager oh yes oh thanksof course you're running Arkanoidpackage manager but I'm not going tostart it because I would log into thecaptain's and that's going to stallcharge their access many of these otherthings are going to look very similar towhat you're used to seeing in TCS whatabout that thing over all those many LDride letters pop bike on 10 differentpop-ups I think that happens in the LVMprogram and you know with USB driveletters that are going to use so far youknow and it won't best save it you knowin fact I doI do that's part of the IDM on logicalvolume manager utility and yes thatwould do the same thingYamini lb on that many OEM ships withthis we just don't have any look in thefolder here but many OBM believe it's inthe path many other ships and it willprobably be on that in a system setupmenu instead of the Java the logicalvolume manager again this is a updatedversion of the mini lbm from what's inpcs 2.0 Alex did this and Alex did napsand Alex did Arkanoid packageso Gretchen he's our resident pxrx guruyes yesand the next thing the nice thing abouthaving a guy who does user interfaces aswell as ourshaving that person do a number of thesethings is that they all have thisconsistency about them they all work theway you expect me once you get used tothe way things are laid out there are nobig surprises when you get to anotherapplication and we really really reallytry to adhere to CUA 91 and echo withthat cell phone interface you know we'redefinitely not going to stop at that acton something we really try to adhere toto see you a 91 standards and weactually have discussions about thingsas mundane as your probably going tolaugh when I except when I tell you thisbut things likesee the ellipses after content ski zonethis helpful I had this menu hasn't beenupdated we took those off because thosewere changed they were removed from seatway 91 you're not supposed to haveellipses at Christmas we actually havediscussions about stuff like thatbecause we have so much time because wehave so much time and but to us is theconsistency it's the it's the finishedlook and feel of the product it reallyshould look and feel like a professionaloutfit put it together and it was justcobble together by country guys workingin the basement so logical volumemanagerI know I should just click the axe sideof two you will remember east either youwill remember we haven't come up with abetter name for arms that was the styleit's essentially the same the same toolwith some of the proprietor with theproprietary bits pulled out and replacedit's not quite as full feature as wewanted to be yet but it's getting therebut you'll notice a lot of this stuffwill look familiar to youwe have a number of new fonts to thecity more our morning than just thesethey're listed here again alex is ourfront of it so he's added a bunch of airnot only elective designs it yeahexactly Midori is his you see Midori ohno he had warps and warps axis is hisworkplace on sucess yeah what are allthe source ones but it then they're runwhat source code Pro those are wrongAdobe fontsI think that's Adobe notlet's gothe fine folders from ex workplace ifyou use the extra workplace you'llrecognize thata mouse is ship I don't know if I've gota massive yes IBS will also ship the IDand mass driver if you prefer to usethatOhspeech speaking of fonts the userinterface comes in what languagesbesides English we will have NLSversions of Marco s available ro s livewill be English only alcohol s 5.1 willpromptly ship in English German DutchFrench Spanish Western Europeanlanguages yeah I think double bitecounter percent will probably comesometime after that so like Japanesewould for example what about double playyeah totally yeah exactly exactly wellwe'll see but that's inter we justrealized that we need a functionalproductso here I'll stick with English 45.0right we realize it's important fromother than LS and that is on into emjust curious in order to do that youneed to find someone who is a Japanesespeaker and to help you implement thator is it already kind of in theresomewhere and you just need to let itloose or you total the OS two portionsbecause remember our Co s5 these arebased on MC p45 - right right so NC P 2which is OS to work 4.5 - so OS 2messages are already translated that wehave the analyzed versions of that stuffbut there are other portions of the codethat don't come from IBM and those needto be translated so that they work andthey don't revert to English and whatwas the world of languages that wereavailable were like South Indianlanguages available for example and Idied merrily don't leave you rememberedout well mostthere I think the only real DVCS was Ithink simplified Chinese and Japaneseuh-huh and the rest world you know themost Lemieux appealinglyera been like Arabic was there an ArabicOh a suit you know I think there was anArabic and Hebrew but I don't reallyknow what else stop not with the fixpackso yeah he's he's shaking his head nowback there's no I said he had he wasusing maybe just for some haps now ontop of that Tabitha you'd have to goimplement that in all your applicationsyou're adding otherwise that revert toEnglish at least with a single bycharacter sent over to English I don'tknow what because there are other thereare boot file differences for double bycharacter set support fathers fertilizeI don't know what happens if you don'thave a double bite character sentmessage file and you're booted fordouble blind character set does it fallback to English or kind not I don'tthink it can well no it couldI've never really looked I don't haveaccess that's okay yeah I can makeguesses the look those but you know theokay good it's more than just characterforget you need the IME and the IME iswhy we depend right did the interestingthing to remember is that we actuallyhave people working on this stuff um wehad a problem with young handling doublewhite character sense what was thebiggest hole up with fixing that no oneworking on that stuff had access to adouble byte character set setup so weprovided we provided one problem solvedwe got the bug fixesthis all came about we were developingarkanoid package manager the issue cameup well you know we have to figure out aworkaround because we get a crash whenwe try to run on it on a Japanese systemand how does though is to work and youlike this installation could you flip itto Spanish for example without can youjust do that or do you have to haveinstalled on yellowish language filesinstalled and then I would tell it tochange my locale to to Spanish and thenat least the well whatever observes thatwould then work okay essentially yesit's a little bit more than that becausething you have is really where there'sexternal message filesyeah you just change and the same thingwith the you'll see a bunch of DLLs thathave MRI and there's your machinereadable information and that's whereyou're on your language not justresources but there are someapplications which part the length themessage is and stuff like that orcompiled into the code now versus moredetails replace that stuff coming ofcourse but it's not just drop filing butI just curious about hours to itself OSto itself if you are the language filesinstalled as far as I know you should beif you have just a workforce system youwant to change the language if you'vegot the the other language filesinstalled yeah but you're also talkingexecutables and I'm not just talkingit's not just messages now I understandall those dishes but I just curious ingeneral how it's set upthere's more code that's got to go ontothe dishing that's that's the and also alot of this stuff is documented in townwe'll really their full switchoverit takes four okay now we also likeneedles include an application to handlearchivesI just don't know where I put it rightthere I goand it is based on echo software zippyit doesn't do as full range of archiveswith zippy handles it doesn't um itdoesn't I don't remember whether we doencrypted archives I think we indeedripped organize we can't createencrypted on your line xenophobia whereI left out some of the creation optionsright basically agreed I think almostany reasonable archive format thatyou're gonna come across 17 yeah itsupports a number of formatsnot as many as as zippy supports but zipjar xbi le t XZ tar.gz 7 7and if it's two-in-one does it figurethat out the important thing that isn'tour Tai Chi see yes it does but theimportant thing is if you come across azip file that you know has document inthe community you're probably going tobe able extracted if you are going tobypass RPM down and unzip to installsomething you'll be able to do it if youwant fancy stuff thenyou just get the fancier version and notonly that there are Pro come through ziphandling their commercial and opensource versions that will get the jobare their workplace shell base archivethings like you know like on Windowswhere you can just click on the folderand it opens you mean like we just gotto do the answer is guest but it's notnecessarily work ratio class becauseit's easy enough to make that happenwell I mean what you do here's you canopen it or extract well what reallydon't really say work by shell okay it'sa program object that is associated withextension no no I mean it oh yeahwindows a zip file looks like a folder Imean you can just open it on we don'thave that you know we don't have thatconfigures it's certainly possible tothe question is whether we do that withwhether whether we add that data classto the desktop before you some othermethod that would be terrible because mywife gets Miller's finger and she wouldhave the whole desktop why is all thisstuff open did you pick us - yeah clickclick clickso that's nicely quiet let me show youthis before we got before I reboot toshow you the other people penguin soright now I have my drives objectconfigured to open in X view by defaultXQ is the only split view from exportIceland and it gives you a two paneldisplay and you can do some veryinteresting thingsdid you see if you've gotcolumns you can add or subtract in adifferent views and then you can applythe settings around year to all foldersby clicking there or you can customizedifferent drives or directories to showup with different views if you have apolymer that's got a background you canlet it show the background or you canmake it revert to white so it's lessdistracting otherwise you'll get thebackground on the left side you want forthe background on the right sideand of course you can you can expandthings and you can open things who hereit essentially becomes a mini filemanager which is very handy we include anew file open containerwhich again if you're used to econstation 2.2 beta - you've seen anearlier version of this this oneactually has most of the bugs worked outand so farI still think we need a help filebecause of all of the buttons that wehave at the top but essentially you canyou can sort it remember your history offiles that you've opened it's a littlemore helpful than the default warp forin our mCP file open containerlast shifts by default with the and isinstalled by default with the operatingsystem there are other things that willbe included that are not in the alphabuild yet anyone here familiar with ohyes great split view that one solves aproblem where if you do the split of anetwork drive on one computer you can'topen it on the computer that it'ssupposed to be on unless it has with youI haven't seen that I've seen you're onthe early split to see if I can if I canreplicate it or I can try to replicateit I still have computer repair ok ifyou can replicate it um send me somedetails now ok how can I get over richum anyone here familiar with pianolaunchpad from echo software it's solauncher for the bottom of the screenmuch like the warp 3 thing but much moreup-to-date much more flexible we willinclude a version of that most likely wehaven't seen we haven't seen the code ofthe recent changes to it so we haven'tmade a final decision but that's in theplanfor those people who would prefer tohave a launchpad with some undocked baron the bottom of the screen our ownpreference would be for a bar that canbe docked to the bottom to the sideanywhere you'd like it docked um Imentioned the archiver I mentioned DVDtools that PNG icons when we startgetting these higher resolution displaysOS 2's icons become problematic becausethey were never designed for displaysand resolutions like we have dynamicicons we'll swap those default OS twoicons for PNG icons andyou may be familiar with echo software'ssunning icons product this is based onsunny icons updated and enhanced for ourCo s and of course if you have PNG iconswhat do you need you need a way to editPNG icons so we have someone working onan icon editor to replace the defaultIBM icon editor that will handle PNG andICO files the installation process foryour DVD installation yeah since version2 all the way to EECOM 2.1 hmit seems that remain pretty well almostat the same model by that some degree ofthe Installer gets to all yes theInstaller is completely rewritten okayit's and one of the reasons that we hadto push back our general availabilitydate is that we're not done with it yetso right now all the off of thoseincluding this one that's on here arecompletely manual installs so we have aseries of scripts that we need to runmanually in order to shoehorn theoperating system onto the odd machineand I want a big problem that guess overthe years was fittingInternet driver for the card you knowit's a very short list and mine wasnever on there it has end up somehowdoing it by hand even though I put thedriver in the driver subdirectory I'd goback and look it never saw itso back there drawing board and it couldfix this by hand enough theplug-and-play capability should begreatly enhanced for what you're just ascenelet me show you what what this lookslikein in the pre boot menu and then you'llsee kind of what what installersforget this is all alpha software sothere's still some refining to do butyou'll get a pretty good idea this muchof this stuff hasn't changed in quiteoneokay so this is the maze of the maincreeper screen and you can see you'vegot the option to install display drivermouse driver whether you need a CPIyour disk controllers sear on camera andgroup there's the wired Ethernet nowhonestly that's not the best choice yetbut that will change but the point isthat we do detect the network our that'sin there and right now that's the matchthat we're that we're using that thatwill change this would be much better bythe time to get to GA we can also editthe adapter parameters so after you exithere this one let me back up for aminute and explain their bit more thatcreate this it's definitely different towhat we've got in the past or yeah thepre boot environment is not just forbooting the machine into the Installerwe will ship a usable rescue andrecovery environment on the DVD so ifyou have a system that's broken youcan't get into boot up for whateverreason you should be able to take yourDVD put it in your drive boot themachine to a usable maintenance desktopwith a light browser on it so you canget to the web fully Internetconnectivity so you can get to the webto get the information and the utilitiesand the software that you need to fityour machine so as a result we need tobe able to win to enable the network atthis stage of the process the econstation installer doesn't enable yournetwork when it starts to install itinstalls the software later so that yournetwork isn't is enabled once themachine digs into OS 2 from there orecomp stationwe give you networking out of the boxwhen you boot up from from this point ifyou have parameters to change forinstance when I set this machine inmotion I used I didn't configure thewired interface at all I configured theWi-Fi only as the leader pencil so as aresult I needed to configure the thenetwork SSID for the wireless network soI could enact and get on because theydon't have a utility to like X W landavailable to me yet so under editadapter parameters once I exit this Idon't know them I'll get I may lose mydisplay that's why not I'm not actuallygoing to that point the install but Iget it said goes the the boot cycle andallows me to enter those parameters thatI need to have available and then escapefrom that and then use those parameterswhen it enables the the cards alrightget connected what was even if I've gota wire adapter there may be someparameter that needs to be set thatgives you the opportunity to set it upif I'm using static I being a set ofdynamicB I can enter all that right here in thebrief of man you would need to know theSSID I would need to know the SSID isnot a utility scan it doesn't give youthe list box unless units and there'swhat about user ID password it alsoallows you to put on it if there's acharity see if there is a password ifthere is encryption I think that we havethat availability information weactually do have that and an app that wescan for SSI you just have an integratorcorrect correct that it'd be cool andalso this may change depending on howfar we get in close how close we have togive the wireless drivers of our ownrather than genetic I mean in 2007 thoseof you who were or have been on the OStwo wireless users mailing list mayrecall that I proposed a replacement toGen Mac at the time and it caused a hugeall of the loop but how dare I say sucha thing but the problem is that as Isaid then gen Mac is unsupported goingforward we'd all have a source code forit in a usable State and it's just not agreat approach a much better approach isthe multi- proach with support forwireless drivers then we can drop newwireless drivers in and spin up a newmulti Mac for current cards up hill whoyou specifying yourcar network card could you specify bothwired and wireless I can only enable onecard for the pre-boot environment andessentially the reasoning is we don'tanticipate that you're going to beconnecting to multiple networks duringthe time of your install or when youhave to repair your system multiplesimultaneous network connections wouldbe useful for server conditions whereyou're routing traffic between them thisis really for installation andemergencies so you don't need to getyour refrigerator what you're doing theexactly exact course the standard whatlanguage would you like sort of stuff aslong as its thing exactly any languageyou want as long as it's dangerousand right now what will happen is if Iput this upthe Intel was onthat's a better match for this cardand I press f10 boobsnormally what would happen is Iowa bootfrom this point into the graphicalinstaller by default unless I tell it Iwant to put into the maintenanceenvironmentthere's a question will a different kindof question enjoy booth says lead areKanoa find a way besides using OS forloader or Q it's any closer to solve thememory card order in okay 30 secondsokay I promise and I because I knowthere are a lot of questions around justlet this product to lie to a flyingdesktop for a momentquick question yes sir what is thenative file systemJFS JFS you will I'm the option to useHP FS if you have a reason to use HP FSthere are certain scuzzy adapters thatrequire hpfs they won't boot off ofcampus until we address those situationswe have the availability of using HP FSum honestly though the problem with hpfsand I've had to answer this question onmore than one occasionHP invest is a great file system I haveabsolutely no complaints about HDFSexcept that hpfs is limited to 64gigabytes I can't have a partitionlarger than I can particularly youreally can't go beyond yeah ok ok todayhow useful is that that's a USB stickfor us today yep ok so one of my otherHP FSR within an auto hpfs option is HPFS 3 & 6 which was IBM's server basedhpfs great file system has been updatedsince 1995 but it's a great operatinggreat flat system ok we have no licenseto distribute hpfs 386 why don't we havea license to distribute hpfs 386 becausethey even find the code who owns hpfs386 microsoft on HP of us being seriousso for every license of the hpfs 386which IBM sells microsoft is toroyaltiesso that's like staying in business rightI guess if I went to our IBM rep and Isaid look I need a thousand license orlicenses for hpfs 386 I p.m. wouldprobably sell me a thousand licenses forhpfs they exist to do it for let's dowhy would they do freak there you gothere you go I let's face it money moneytalksthe problem is what what about when thatcustomer then comes back and says heyyou sold me a thousand lines this is forhpfs 386 and I've got a problem they alldon't work I can't fix it I'm no sourcecode access and IBM hasn't touch thatcode in you know two decades ladiesright what am I supposed to do with itso JFS right now is our answer ideallyif you were to say to me what would whatwould my choice of file system be forour Caillou s in 2020it would probably ZFS we really don'tknow it's kind of long okay so littleyes the answers if I had to choosesomething operated from the file systemsavailable today my choice would be ZFSit supports extended attributes ofunlimited size it has for our purposesno volume size limit and it's extremelyrobust and it's easily read by mostmodern Linux distributions the sole butthen that's nap chatting yes exactly wecan do snapshots with it it is superiorto two btrfs butter FS and it is I lookI hate to say it is superiorJFS in a number of respects that beingsaid we have a working bootable JFSdriver that is supportive it's lightit's umdistributed by our Kanoa and it gets thejob done and there's so many otherpieces for us to deal with that the factthat we have a working filesystem we'rehappy that we have a working filesystemand we'll revisit the filesystemquestion down the road at some point soyes we support hpfs we support JFSduring installation we are hoping tohave an updated fat32 driver availablenot for installation of the operatingsystem you don't want to install OS 2 onfathom to time that's just that's badit's like crossing the streets you don'twant to do that but we're hoping to havea more robust fat32 on filesystem drivermmm for interchange frame to changeexactly it's amazing how many things orusing exFAT these days exFAT as I saidyesterday because of microsoft's patentson exFAT we will not be distributing anexpat driver it would be great if someother private developer came out with anexpat filesystem driver or even an expatplugin for net drive and that would beabsolutely terrific and you couldinstall it with Arkanoid package managerand access all of your digital cameramedia that wayUSB sticks because there are USB stickso they're coming formatted exFAT butit's not going to come from usit's ours are comfortable we are one ofthe things when we founded the companythat we set down as one of ourcommandments is thou shalt not playaround with licensing life is too shortto get suit particularly by a companywith much deeper pockets yeah that'swe're not using Trump ëthis right nothat wasn't evil itical that was legalif you're Charlotte on Wednesday whathe's done the question came out aboutlet me whether it's yourself with theother guy you know the question came upabout motors let's talk about loadersforgive we are fully aware of the factthat there are a number of systems thatwill not run properly without an updatedlower because the using OS to loader theIBMwe can't see more than 512 megabytes ofmemory we are fully aware of thatproblem q s in it does have code in itto resolve that problem we will not beshipping Q s in it in our KS period wewill have what's Q is in itthat's a replacement loader for os/2 LDRWow we will have a replacement loaderwhich will have a subset offunctionality of Q s in it in it willgames that subset and that subset offunctionality will include the above 512fix it will include the ability tocreate a ram disk about 4 gigabytesmemory so that's rudimentary PAE supportprogrammable address extensions supportand in the absence of a configurationfile defining those features it willrevert to working just like the IBM logoso it is a very modest change from thetried-and-true and fullybackward-compatible IBM loader that wehave nowremember the Oso mantra is it must runyour existing applications we reallyreally really do not take chances aboutinstalling anything that might not runexisting code we don't want to breakanythingso therefore enhancements need to bedone incrementally the first step is weknow it got a problem it must beaddressed the 512 megabyte problems gotto be addressed because more and morearmories requiring that we get aroundthat problem the second issue is you'vegot a machine it's got eight gigs of ramin it's got 16 gigs of ram in it you'vegot four other operating systems on itincluding three of which are 64-bitLinux installations we know that os/2 is32-bit operating system it's not goingto see more than four gigabytes ofmemory so you're going to boot it up andyou're going to have all this wastedHenry it's there doing nothing for youlet's make it do something useful if wehave the ability to turn it into a ramdisk off we go so we want to make thesystem useful we want to make the systemuseful address known problems and notbreak anything so that's why we settleon a very very slim modification for nownow will likely enhance that loader overtime but right now that's all we want todo with it and we will not distributeqsr in it through our core no egg norwill it be part of our Co we have a verygood relationship with the developer ofqsr in it don't get me wrong we have agreat relationship withgreat guy and our loader will be basedin part on the work done fork us in itbut it will be a completely separatepiece of code completely separate codebase that answered the question onlinedo you think let me take did you forkover over five minutes overtimeare there any other questions online inthe room I wanted to dookay there's what you would considerbasic hardware requirements for ourcoalescing what is the minimum desk youput on what is thewell let's let's start with with whatDavid outlined yesterday qualityhardware that's not exotic right andit's not the cheapest thing on themarket right okayminimum memory requirements my my gutwould tell me that considering the costof memory today four gigabytes of memoryis not an unreasonable requestcan you write into absolutely what Irecommend that you run intono I recommended you running youwouldn't notice it even rented oneit's a panther with until all the band'smy waiting room library if you'rerunning a third I've heard your newpoint is you're running in one it it allruns on what you're running if you saidto me knowing what I know today aboutthe cost of components if I want tobuild out a system what would I considera minimum system for our Caillou s yeahI would say four gigabytes of memory Iwould say business quality videobusiness quality audio because we shouldbe able to support both of those withuni God and with at least panorama ifnot snap one snap is updated umaccelerated 2d don't give a damn aboutthree yeah you know a business 3d Ireally know that's what business isthat's the difference between thebusiness and the gamers yeah exactlyand frankly if you're only playing gamesor aren't we playing games on almost tocollector shows Isis a great deal it'sfabulous but somewhat better mind way tosolitaire might be accepted and by theway speaking of games and include asoftware Daniel Valon you're familiarwith the French developer Daniel Danielhas agreed to let us install all of hisos/2 games and utilities in our coalescethey wishmark o/s um Jess you're still gonna havechest we're definitely gonna have chestmahjongg it Josh offer an app she saysshow we're gonna have a problem withchess it occasionally makes the illegalbooze cheatsimagine that one guy I know what he wasreally good news go ahead and aboutThursday was going there will be someother third-party applications let mejust make a quick mention about my mygood friend who's passed onbecause the earlier this year doctorsDave Seville anyone here use clip viewthe multiple clipboard applicationthat's sort of like Dave's warhorse Davepassed away cancer earlier this yearI've been in touch with his wife zinaand she's agreed to let us collect thesource code for Dave's software and wewill be including some of that stuff inour go LS this year's warp stock isdedicated to Dave Seville sorry againchoked up about this but great guy greatsoftware our plan for our Co s is not toinclude anything that we would not beproud to put our name on only qualitycode usually that means we need to havethe developer on hand in the case ofDave stuff I'm very confident not tohave Dave on hand and include his stuffbecause it's that good that's a greatway to end my presentation or noise yesI read hard drive sighs hard drive undertwo terabytes okay all right bye and thestory of these days yeah that's prettymuch it I mean on solid-state drivewould be very handy because they'regetting cheaper äj--yeah just everything I'm going to get asolid-state driveyou want a solid-state drive thatemulates doing that emulates mechanicaldrive access like I have one of thoselittle skinny ones in one of mymotherboards that's that in the ears Iforget it's it's a Samsung thing there'sthat one that doesn't fall in thatcategory oh you know what was your hetrofirm haha you know I'm not gonna betwith it I noticed when you're talkingabout I'm honestly not sureDavid Lee because I think it's adifferent thing that's Sabbath you wouldyou I have terabyte amedeo FIFO yeahyeah that's that's one disk spacerequirements again like anything else itdepends on what your you guys like whatAlex was talking about earlier whenyou're deciding on the size of yourunits group volume how much space youwould have it really depends on how muchstuff you're going to install on it butyou put a lot of movies or editing videothe answer is no don't worry becausethat's what's heating up all the spaceyeah you know it's not the operatingsystem yet you put mp3s on there you'llbe dead by the time so yeah the thing toremember is that right now we have a twoterabyte glistening I know no nose dropyour seller but here if you get a drythis more than two a terriblyyou're only going to see two territoryokay so don't waste the waste of moneyfuture plans we do plan to support GPTwhich will allow us to use thosegargantuan drives I mean if you want toput six terabytes on one spindle if youwant to sync your life savings in a boathide yourself I'm a raid guy myselfI would rather have half a dozenspindles and each one of a same size sothat if one dies I just pop in anotherone and all the data just replicatesplus it keeps us working the winnerit doesn't there's enough oh my computerroom it's I don't know remember the twoterabytes happens to be binary and theyalways spec them as digital so it'sactually not - as they say that'strigger point I forget I don't want itbased on 1024 when they tell you thatbeing divided its decimal that Mikeyokay an actual limitation okayis is the power of two okay well it'syou know to two to three or second timestwo to the ninth times if you put thatinto your little calculator you find outthat you know it's to point like thisfor something like complain one of mytwo point two ports or three happeninglike that there's actually more for whatit's worth and you won't notice itanyhow that's right wrap up in it weshould wrap up we should wrap up otherany other desserts a question about UF'bf a BIOS you promised because thereare exclusive main boards that do nothave legal correct okay so let me talkvery very briefly about UEFI unifiedextensible firmware interface iseveryone here familiar with the term efior UEFI okay we're all familiar with atraditional computer bios commutergroups up press f1 enter set up os/2needs that what efi and now what UEFIthe unified extensible firmwareinterface does is it removes removes thebios from the picture in other words thesystem itself doesn't provide thoseservices they are provided by theoperating system running on the machineunfortunately for os/2 we don't havethatcall us crazy twenty years ago there wasno such there wasn't even such a thoughtso modern machines that bridge the gaphave what's called a compatibilitysupport module with CSM which is asoftware component of UEFI whichemulates that bios so the system canboot up in other words you go in to buya set of a new talat UEFI mode or i hatethis word because with legacy mode inlegacy mode the compatibility supportmodule is turned on and the system willboot like any other traditional PC andos was very happythe newest machines do not ship with acompatibility support module so theyrequire a UEFI aware operating system inorder to run now there are ways aroundthat there is a software compatibilitysupport module which essentially is aUEFI aware operating system unto itselfwhich boots up and then allows you toboot whatever you need to boot afterthat that is our ticket out and that isthe route that we will in allprobability take to resolve the UEFIproblem we have not looked at it closelyyet expect some functionality like thatin our go s6 unless we need it soonerthan that I mean really that's what itis so it's not as daunting a task as itonce seemed it would be but we haven'tgotten there yetwe again like the JFS thing we have asystem that works we know that there isstill hardware manufacturerthat does have compatibility supportmodule in the hardware were able to useit so we haven't tackled that issue notonly that we have it or workaroundsrevelationyeah not as good as running on wallhardware but with you Fiit gets very vague whether you're reallyrunning on the real hardware or notanyhow once you stick a coreboot modulein there that's true that's trueI mean we're not what's the definitionof virtualization I mean what's thedefinition of bare metal it gets reallygray in between where it used to be avery hard and fast line between bootinga machine on bare metal and building amachine underneath another operatingsystem but yeah virtualization isanother way atarkanoid position is that we want toprovide a modern os/2 that will run onbare metal and not have to bevirtualized if getting us on UEFIHardware requires that we use a coreboot module to take the place of thatCSM then we'll deal with that and if theperformance is not up to snuff for usthen we'll look at solutions after thatand changeanything else anything else from the webgood good if there are any otherquestions about our go s please feelfree to go to the website there's acontact page there someone actually doesanswer email that comes in through thecontact page we're very happy to answerquestions and talk about archival s andhonestly the only reason we're delayingour release is because we want to makesure we get it right that's the onlyreason we're holding back all right weare over time I am going to say thankyou very much all mine is to releaseyour rundon't forget us bran charge it birthwell virtually LM waiting find him Imight yeahdesktop