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Before Genesis: Lucifer's Fall

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Ironically the passage about Lucifer's fall isn't about the devil...
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+dave oh It's amazing how all of you have read and studied the bible, but you know nothing of it. And yet you keep calling me dumb.  LOL I keep responding to what has been said to me. That's no different than if I said the same thing to YOU.  LOL "yet you keep coming back for more abuse... you're either a masochist or a dumb cunt..." So that would apply to YOU also. Are you sure you finished school?
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+mary4yeshua"So that would apply to YOU also" wrong again, dummy; i'm a sadist... i love goofing on religibots like you... you type the stoopidest things & i love responding to them... this is entertainment for me; why, it's almost a sport... you could say i do it religiously... it's when you tell people how they should live their lives & what to beLIEve in, that's when i have a problem... live your life the way you want to, but don't you dare tell me what to do... that's not only ignorance, but that is arrogance, too... you dumb cunt...
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Actually, in the bible it says "I then saw two women, with wings like a storm, holding a basket between heaven and earth" so, there are female Angels. They just weren't talked about nearly as much. They probably were only created to worship God, not carry out tasks, I assume.
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+Daryle Emanuel That is in modern era. Given that women weren't given rights up until the 19th and 20th century, women weren't really held at a protective stance unless they were pregnant.   Look at all the women that either got a hand cut, or stoned to death.
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Baby. I will be the first to say that women have been the most abused, mistreated ,neglected,  part of our society, and all men should be ashamed, but God loves women.....and so do I.
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The second coming of christ is here, now. The spirit of truth has led us unto the whole truth. Check the truth for yourself, Google Truth contest and check out the top entry. Nothing could be more important or worthwhile. 
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+Jesus Christ Shame on you for taking Jesus's glory for yourself, u are a demon
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get a life there is no god never was never will be its a story a way to control people in the past which has led to wars and racism death and hate when will you all come out of this mist and see the reality that no god would let his children kill and hate in his name he does not exist stop preaching all your lies and let all these religions die out and watch the world heal itself your breeding hatred and need to stop its already too late for us it will take a 1000 years from the point of religion s death but it will happen one day 
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The saddest thing in the world is a willing fool. (shaking my head).
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Hey Rich, don't pay attention to those that say you'll burn in hell. Those are idiots. When you asked, if God is so loving then why does he let children starve?" Wrong, you should ask "why do people let children starve?" "Why do people kill each other and use religion as the excuse?" Do you not realize that we all have free will? Religion is responsible for chaos because religion is man made. You lack understanding of the bible. Christ came and told the religious leaders that they were hypocrites for thinking they are better because they do religious acts but have no love for God or people. By this, can't you get it in your head that those who criticize God and the bible are the ones who do not read it? Christ advocated the loving for one another, for the rich to help the poor and the widows, and since God sent him here, how can you say that God isn't of love? Look Rich, Revelations describes the near end of times. It mentions that men will marry men. It's now legal is some states to do so. Earth will increase with eruptions and earthquakes. Japan, Nepal, etc. a one world government will rise. The U.S and NATO invasion in the Middle East?? Market Globalization is official. The bible says that Babylon will be the whore of all nations. Look at how the U.S and the catholic religion is filled with their traditions and make people think it's okay because they deceived people by using God. Honesty Rich, there is a God, how can earth be on a perfect tilt and the solar system be perfectly balanced? Did we get emotions from a protein? Even Einstein said there must be someone who created the universe in perfection. Please reply Rich.
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divining imperception..."Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowlwdge? Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me. Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?  dceclare if you have understanding....I challenge you to read chapter 39 through 42 of the book of Job in the old testament
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Angels were created; therefore, no "infant" state for angels. Angels were created; therefore, no procreation required so no female-angels. How then do you infer that all angels are male? No procreation required remember, so no males required either. Angels are invisible/spirit beings so why do you insist on assigning gender? If anything, they can be understood to be asexual.
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The passage about jeremiah 4:23-26 is a wrong explanation. It's about the land Israël..
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Have you considered that the vision of the wrecked city is of purpose for us and tells of the second coming?  An arbitrary text about some past society before Adam would not be of much use. Consider all other OT passages always refer to future. I do believe angels fell before man was created, but you have to be careful with what you are willing to say came before. Death came AFTER  the fall. And the bible prophecy of the second coming which is soon, depends on understanding the truth of a young earth. (6000)
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Maybe someone has asked this below.  It certainly isn't addressed in the video. What does it mean to be "cast out of heaven"?
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This guy hasn't read the order of angels the Torah speaks of 2 female angels..
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dave,  deep calls unto deep.  On the day you breathe your last breath, may your eyes be opened.
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love the gorilla aspect !  Cities???!!! lol Applaud,  good show
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The bible does talk about female angle. found it.......zachariah 5;9.....good learning. we have to be very, very careful taking from God what belongs in his word.... Know that you Know  that which you know.........
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Then I looked up--and there before me were two women, with the wind in their wings! They had wings like those of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between heaven and earth. Zachariah 5:9
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So tragic to see people take everything literally and do not see the contradictions
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Lucifer walked in the garden of Eden; so could not have corrupted the earth before Adam sinned. Otherwise the Bible would be wrong. Lucifer didn't "fall" before the first day. Sounds like you haven't learned to 'divide' the Word with wisdom.
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Satan could not have already corrupted the earth, but he could have been corrupted before he tempted man kind. How do you know that the reference to him being in the garden isn't just speaking of around the tree of the knowledge of good and evil after he became Satan? Clearly it makes sense that Satan would be allowed to test our parents in proximity to that tree.  He tempts us today when we leave Gods presence.  I don't believe in a pre ADam civilization but the universe and the earth void of life COULD  be possible.  Scripture does allow a gap between Gen 1-2, which is very possible, that doesn't mean we can put death before sin. But there is scripture that is better understood if we accept the angels existing before the creation week.  Consider the fact that Satan was created perfect yet he fell two days later?  I don't believe God's perfect creation would fall to vanity that quick. And our first parents would likely have not fallen so quick with out Satans influence, if at all.  And scripture gives no indication that Satan fell right when he decided to tempt Eve.  If anything it would be better assumed he was already Satan when she came upon the tree. Read the reference carefully referring to him being in the garden.  He doesn't have to be pre fallen to be referenced here.  Even though we know God saw everything "very good".  After all, was the tree that was placed in the garden good?  Depends on how you look at it.  Fact is, it was there, and they were not suppose to go around it.       I am a YEC, but scripture does not forbid the actual universe being old.  I don't think some are fully honest if they try to paint a picture otherwise. We don't know.     But we can know the bible indicates no life on earth before Adam.  Partly because it speaks of our earth as the first creation in reference to the new one. See Revelation 20-22.  And the bible clearly tells of a 6000 year old story of life, in the beginning He made them male and female.  But it doesn't say the earth, pre formed with out life, couldn't have been here in its "without form and void" state. I am familiar with all sides of Hebrew grammar interpretation.
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Read Rick Davis new book from amazon "Secret societies and their god lucifer
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the only thing with X religion.. or any other.. is all the PR is run by people?.... so if I was to create the new jedi order... no one would believe that the force is in all of us!
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damn satan is going to get an ass beating
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This video seems to point towards what is known as the gap theory, which imparts an unknown duration of time between verses 1 and 2 of Genisis chapter 1. I had previously thought that there may have been an unknown span of time between these two verses, but I must either allow the word of God to dictate what the truth is on a matter, or assume I know better what happened. So, allowing scripture to interpret scripture, line upon line, precept upon precept, I would say this. Exo 20:11  For in SIX DAYS the LORD MADE HEAVEN and EARTH, the SEA, and All THAT IN THEM IS, and rested the seventh day:
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even the religous morons do not agree with each other...ther god must be god of chaos and confusions...
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what a great story very interesting and entertaining
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I will never worship a man or a him = your god = Gold Oil Drugs
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You already DO! Do you ride in a vehicle that burns fossil fuels? Do you take any kind of drugs prescription or otherwise? (I'll just BET you smoke weed) and you spend money for your internet connection. GOTCHA
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Angels can not reproduce,the son's of God going into the daughter's of men speak of righteous men who leave there standing with God and lay with Unsaved women !  If you read Genesis properly you will also notice that giant's were about before this event in your video God bless
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+mary4yeshua My understanding is the flood happened because satan was intermingling the bloodlines so Christ could not be born. Noah's line was 'pure' from which Jesus came.
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+joestan77y It wasn't satan intermingling, it was the fallen angels. And yes, you are correct, it was satans attempt to corrupt that seed line. This was his 2nd attempt.
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some of the angels are women please read this: Zec 5:9 Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.
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It is true, there are female angels in heaven.
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Angels having sex with humans??? That just doesn't seem right. Anyone out there please reply and tell me if that is true or not. I don't want to doubt God's word so please correct me if i'm wrong but i just don't believe that happened.
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We do not become angels when we die. Angles are holy beings created by God. Read Revelation 7:9-17 -  9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10 And they cried out in a loud voice:“Salvation belongs to our God,who sits on the throne,and to the Lamb.” 11 All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying: “Amen! Praise and glory and wisdom and thanks and honor and power and strength be to our God for ever and ever. Amen!” 13 Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes—who are they, and where did they come from?” 14 I answered, “Sir, you know.” And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore, “they are before the throne of God and serve him day and night in his temple; and he who sits on the throne will shelter them with his presence. 16 ‘Never again will they hunger; never again will they thirst. The sun will not beat down on them,’[a] nor any scorching heat. 17 For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd; ‘he will lead them to springs of living water.’[b] ‘And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.’[c]” Angels are perfect beings, we are not, they do not thirst or hunger, we do. So no we do not "become" angles when we die. Our souls go to heaven or hell which ever we have reaped here on earth.. 
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LOL. to the OP Angels are male and female just as Adam was. God took away the female essence away from Adam thus making him fully male. To be made in GOD image you must be of both sexes. It is by way of marriage male and female become one that honors GOD and why it is anti god when same sexes are sin.
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Before Genesis means before god created the heaven and earth...So how can lucifer fall before he was created title wrongly written.
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I read the Bible for the stories and spend time with God but i leave the correct teaching of the Bible to the Church.
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He asked about a woman if married 7 times he said they become like the angels in heaven.. he never said man..this was about woman..this man is confused
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Please don't believe what is written in the Bible. Bible all Bullshit written and written so many times by people who were ordinary people.
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MrAsm1949       The peple in the Bible are ordinary and Yet the Lord used them so imagine what the Lord will could do with you?   why not read the Bible for yourself and you will see the truth in it.   
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The fact that Angels are genderless in heaven but can reproduce on earth can only mean that they have their own body in heaven but are spirits on earth. So they need a vessel / to possess a human to do it, just saying.
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This is the foolishness arrogant and presumptuous people fall into: we extrapolate from what we know about earthly creatures to conclude about angels who are not human but are spirits. We are not told in The Scriptures that angels have the same genders as mankind, so it is foolishness to impute gender to them because we do not know!  Secondly, concerning the issue of the Sadducees question, The Lord never said angels cannot have relations with women. He said : "For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven." It simply means angels are forbidden from human matrimonial relationships, and that is why their action in Genesis, when they had children with the daughters of men was disobedient. They were prohibited, but they were not incapable. No human totally knows the capabilities of angels except for what has been documented in scriptures. From the scriptures we know they are able to assume masculine form. Let us be content to be faithful to The Lord on earth,and not be presumptuous about what we do not know abot heaven: GO READ: Deuteronomy 29:29
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Angels do not have a physical body and thus no appearance. They are spiritual beings with a greater influence and power than ours and they can take the form they please. It is true that they are not male nor female, and that they do not need an infant stage, but they can be so if they want. When the bible describes the appearance of seraphim, ophanim, cherubim and other heavenly beings, it does in a metaphorical way. I don't really know about this, but imagine that wings represent power or range, then three pairs of wings may be greater than two ;3 And when it describes Lucifer it refers to the same thing, range among the other angels. Don't try to imagine a specific shape for heavenly beings (including the devil) because it is impossible, they are shapeshifters. I liked the video, good information, except the things I have cleared up.
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Thanks for sharing your research. These biblical verses are very helpful for putting heavenly events in chronological order. You are a good teacher. May God bless all of your efforts in the teaching of his word.
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Yet... the contradiction is found. These sexless angels who cannot reprouce DID?, with humans. Wait, how is this possible? Non human sexless beings who do not reproduce not only DID reproduce, but with a different species?? This makes one wonder just how much the old church tainted the original documents... or perhaps, fabricated... everything for the sake of control.
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our little brain cannot begin to comprehend what awaits us in the afterlife. but you can try...
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i think if you dumb fuckin people dont know what the fuck your talking about then you should shut your fat fuckin mouths
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You call the folks who post here "Dumb fuckin people who dont know what the fuck they are talkin about" but do you have ANY idea how ignorant and stupid YOU look by sayin this? You don't come off as looking very intelligent by saying other people should "Shut their fat fuckin  mouths".
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Angels do NOT have a GENDER!!!! They are neither male, nor female. Jesus said this HIMSELF!!!! By your conjecture, you are making all human females that go to heaven MALES. This is NOT accurate. Whilst on earth, the (fallen) angels were able to mate...but this does not mean they are male in heaven.
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+Tivne Marlene You are so welcome, and thank you. Remember the darkness is getting stonger and and stronger, so we have to keep that light shinning more than ever. The struggle continues.  We have to keep lifting each other up.  God Bless
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I know. You are so right. Blessings Sister.
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If there is no need for "female" angels because they do not reproduce, then how could they all be "male", as they do not need to reproduce? If they do not reproduce, and they are sexless, that is they do not and cannot reproduce, then angels would be neither male nor female, yet possess femine and masculine balances of both as God does. So, angels ar either without sex, or they are with sex. The purpose of sexes is reproduction. If they were created not to reproduce, they are neither male nor female. Like God.
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The angels CAN reproduce, there just aren't any female angels. So the male angels have their parts, but no other angel to reproduce with.
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+Kelly Calicoat perfect answer ..I read exactly what you have mentioned in many of the old manuscropts of the monks in Egypt who lived around 400 AD in wadi el natrun desert..the angels neither male or femal yet possess etc etc
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I AM GOING TO DESTROY YOU YOU EVIL PILE OF SHIT SATAN AND THIS EVIL WORLD.  WHEN GOD IS DONE WITH YOU YOU WILL HAVE PAID FOR ALL OF IT.  WHORE.--JESUS
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1. satans spirit is here influencing still, but he has not come in person yet. 6th Trump 2. You said when we die were not angels. ???  What are we then?  Were angels. 3. Angels do not have wings. The cheribums are mentioned with wings. In Eze 1  Ezekiel tries his best to describe what he's seeing. All he had ever seen at that point is a horse and buggy. He talks of a wheel that's on it's side. It even has windows! The people inside, when the vehicle turned, looked not where they were going like you would in a buggy or on a horse. He described the color of it. In the Hebrew it's 'highly polished bronze' . Yes God and the angels get around in those vehicles. They don't have wings. Other than that, good job. The first 3 verses in Rev 12 has to do with that 1st earth age before we came in the flesh. Did you ever notice the 7 heads, 10 horns, 7 crowns? The others are 7 heads, 10 horns, 10 crowns. These are governmental systems. The one in Rev 12:3 is the gov. system in the 1st earth age.  This time he adds 3 more.
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When a human dies, they are angels again. You were an angel before you came in the flesh. When you die, you go back to being an angel again.  I just gave you verses to show you that.
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What a lie that Angels cant be seen.And who had sex with daughter  of man if not fallen Angels?What a bunch of heresy strait from the church!!!!!!And if Angels are spirits than they cant have dicks so who was doing manipulations on Earth in Noah days if not Angels.Go to hell you pro-church-snake tribe preacher.
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When Lucifer fell is not important. Point blank simple you have an enemy that hates God and all that He represents. People can debate about endless genealogies, chronological order of events or we could all just focus on our PERSONAL relationships with God and love him and our fellow man. Although these topics are interesting and stirs up curiosity, we can't go so deep into them as believers that we allow them to become divisive. I'm more concerned with us being on one mind and one accord to stand against this enemy not how he came to be. He is defeated, Christ is victorious, it has been accomplished.
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Satan has fallen from grace but has fallen from heaven yet.
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but why didn't God know that Lucifer was going to be "proud" before he made him? Why would you give Lucifer free will and then "cast him out" when he disobeyed? You're the one that fucking made him didn't you? So basically what you created is not perfect? But God should be perfect though?
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Vanessa Perez Shared on Google+ · 1 year ago
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AT THE 3;01YOU SAY SPIRIT OF GOD  VERY WRONG       ELOHIM THE SPIRIT    RUACH  ELOHIM  BUT YOU NEED MORE TIME AND STUDY FOR THE TRUTH
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Let me get this straight....   God invented/created angels to worship Him and obey Him?  He's perfect and all that, but He still needs ego strokes?  God still needs to have yes-men staring at Him and telling Him, over and over, that He's the best thing ever?  He's the captain of the team but he needs cheerleaders and a big crowd that roars its approval of Him? Next, God is perfect but the angels he creates still get horny over hot-looking earth-girls.  So, does that mean God screwed up and made imperfect angels?  Um, were the angels "worshipping" God when they were banging hot chicks?  Were the angels "worshipping" God when they were at war?  If God was running a 7-11, the shelves wouldn't be stocked and the floor would be sticky and dirty. You know, it seems like God is a lot like a surfer dude.  You know, the kinda guy who thinks he's the best, and who laps up adoration from empty-headed beach bunnies, but who is really a screw-up, with bad credit, and who can't keep a job.  He was a good-looking guy but now He's getting flabby and all He lives for are those stories, over and over, about how great He was when he rode that big one back in '66.
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+Winston Smith excuse me, my and everybody else's God is real and is kind and loving. He gives us chances that we ruin for ourselves while being ignorant and disobeying as so. There are consequences that come along with bad behavior.
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what a pathetic load of crap.  how about angels dont exist at all, man made fantasy constructs like unicorns and the easter bunny.  what part of the brain has to do die to  believe this childish drivel?
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READ DEUTERONOMY 32 ;39  ............NOW JUDGE FOR YOUR SELF IF ELOHIM  DEUT 32;39...... JESUS IS NOT THE SATAN  HE WORK AGAINST ELOHIM BECAUSE ELOHIM ..DEUT 32;39 ELOHIM TEST YOU AND ME AND JOB AND JOSEPH THE KING OF EGYPT IF YOU NEED ANY THING ASK ELOHIM  DO NOT ASK ANY BODY ONLY ELOHIM   GET AWAY FROM JESUS HE WORK AGAINST ELOHIM
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Notice you said "the satan", and not "Satan". Modern christians think "Satan" is a name, while the Hebrew seems to state otherwise... "the satan" is "the adversary" of Elohim?
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The demiurge/yhwh created the earth. The name yhwh is not mentioned one time in the NT, and Jesus Christ never call's the heavenly father yhwh. The god of the old testament and the heavenly father in the new testament, are not the same. Read the nag hammadi scriptures, then you will understand the creation much better. And you will know who the adversery/satan really is.
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And again lucifer was not an angel. He was a cherubim
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And also angels don't have wings
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GOD CREATE NOTHING       RUACH ELOHIM CREATE EVERY THING GENESIS 1;2  LOOK IN JEWISH ORTHODOX BIBLE THIS BIBLE OLD TESTAMENT IS COLLED TORAH THIS BOOK TORAH WAS WRITEN BY MOSES DICTATED BY RUACH ELOHIM ,LETTER BY LETTER    NOT WORD BY WORD THE SAME IS THE TEACHING OF ELOHIM ON THE TABLETS
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Eliad, Shalom Shalom, I am torah observing, I follow all the holydays written in the scriptures. I will read about these other days I don't recognize by your names, could simply be a spelling difference. Not a big deal I will figure that out. I study truth through the Hebrew scripts, although I can't speak it, I can comprehend it slowly. Toda, shalom,
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+Allen Tobolewski ON YOU TUBE IS RABBI YOSEF MIZRACHI   HE IS  JEWISH ORTHODOX  GO TO HIS PAGE AND SUBSCRIBE  IN VERY SHORT TIME YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH  AND YOU WILL HELP OTHERS                                                       SHALOM                                                        ELIAD
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Beautiful video my friend
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Instrumental anyone???
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So it goes like this, huh? No baby angels, no women angels, because angels are created spirits which do not need to be born, or grow from the infant state? Hmmmm, but they have the penis, yes? Because they found the women of earth fair, and began to have children by them? Sounds like a whole bucket of poop to me! Crikey, your type falls, oh so easily, into any crap dealt to you! Do you never question? Do you never apply logic?
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+Nathanel Famy Pal until you know exactly what the value of Truth is, and how it behaves, nothing at all you have to say to me further upon your last comment will be of the slightest interest to me. I'd bet you would be one of those: "I walk with Truth, I know Truth, Truth talks to me"; A living talking walking doll George Bush Junior; and you, like Moron Georgie, would not know Truth if it bit you on the arse! Bye-bye now!
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Amen and Amen! It sounds like something the old chauvinistic European Church came up with to ensure their their power. They did a pretty good job, yes?
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Great post but the way I read Genesis, Giants did already exist and had been around before fallen angles mated to human women and their offspring became famous men and men of renown. At least that's the way I read it.
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the ones who followed lucifer were probably just the teenagers of the bunch
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This is a very intelligent subject. Good reference of verses and no hearsay.
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In Lake of fire will be destroyed death and the hell(grave) so they will be not any more.
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I think you need to get a few things straight. I stopped watching when you stated that Satan's name was Lucifer and that Lucifer was a Hebrew name. Lucifer is the Latin transliteration of the word Hebrew name "Helel". In Latin this means "light bringer" or similar to that effect, it also refers to the planet Venus. The passage in Isaiah in which this name occurs (the only instance of this word in the Bible) is not certainly attributable to Satan. Suggest you take a look at, amongst other things, the Hallelujah Scriptures translation to get some contextual clarification regarding latinised nomenclature.
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+Tudor4398 Hopefully you will change your mind on that one day and get saved. Instead of saying God is not wise is it possible we are not wise and cannot fully understand his ways? After all, His ways are not our ways! 
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what a load of shit back to square one
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Exodus 20:11 Clearly tells us God created Everything in Heaven, Earth, the sea, and all that in them is. In other words Satan had to be created during the original 6 day creation. I agree it was sooner rather than later. But he did not fall before the world was created this is simply a myth. 
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There are female angels, Zechariah 5-9 "Then I lifted my eyes and saw, and behold, two women coming forward! The wind was in their wings. They had wings like the wings of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between earth and heaven."
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Why are all fallen angels considered evil? All they done was not doing god's work. If I don't listen to my parents, does this mean that I will become evil and destroy everyone's life? No. I think the fallen angels are just misunderstood and they just want to be independent, and not be a slave to no one. I believe that not all fallen angels are evil.
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They are evil because they hate everything God stands for. They cause people diseases and possess people and cause people to kill themselves and other people. They hate humans because we are made in God's image and likeness. So if they hate God and what He stands for, of course they will hate people who bear His image. If God did not protect humanity they called kill all of us easily.
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You have no clue , the fallen angels taught us war , making swords , drugs , witch craft , make up for the bitches , and making up new animals through dna . That 's why GOD flooded us because all dna was corrupt except noah family .
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Clifford Bannor Shared on Google+ · 1 year ago
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You said that people who love their own lives more than God (the ungodly) will share the same fate as Satan. This is only partially true because believers in Yeshua will not in any way shape or form end up in hell. Eternal life is a free gift so there will be those who loved their life more than God who will receive eternal life because that sin will have been paid for at the cross. Now to the one who works, wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation. However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness. ROM 4: 4-5 Anyone who thinks that they are saved by their love for God is deceived and in error.
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stupid reasoning, and grammatical nonsense. 
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You must be the master of logic and grammar. LOL
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first of all, calm down. second of all, he doesnt prove who angels are in HEAVEN. they are spirits without physical form. however, he proves that they were male on earth at times. angels, like everything most likely, are made of energy, and energy can turn into matter. i mean, light is energy, which is made into photons (particles) which is matter. so there u go
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Just listen to yourself. This is such a pile of nonsense. Where does he prove anything? He's just speculating, angels are as real as Superman.
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or annointed Cherub (class of angels) who covereth. But covers what? The heart of God!!!! At least he used to until iniquity (wanting worship to go to himself instead of God) was found in him! Good word bro blessings to you! D Kaz
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17: continued: You corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor; I cast you to the ground, I laid you before kings, That they might gaze at you.
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Amazing video brother, thanks!
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oh shut the fuck up ...you think i care ? ......stop ur christianshit talk
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the same god that commands you to stone your kid to death if their rebellious?
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Yes, Jay. Satan and his angels are princes and powers of the air. Hell is their destination; they are not rulers of this place.
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A very good question. Space does not allow me to offer a answer worthy of your question. However should you visit my blog w.. hand.co.za and under WEB INDEX clicl on 'B' 'Bible Chess Game' you will get the full story. That, together with 'The Big Bang', should answer your question. A more important question, however, is that concerning the meaning of 'rebirth'. That question, too, is answered in great detail in most of the articles. A pity Kent did not mention that important matter, Joh 3:5-15.
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Ezekiel clearly states that those verses are in reference to the King of Tyre - again, not Satan. sigh
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Old and New Testament must be consistent so it would be valid. Old Testament says that ALIVE SOUL is BODY + SPIRIT (not soul in body as paganism teach), man is mortal, death is death and for God as a Creator dead soul is in sleep because He can wake up that soul in life , He can RESURRECT that soul. Hell is pagan teaching and has nothing to do with Jesus. Hell is Grave in context of bible. From Genesis to Revilation text must me constant to be valid.
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the fallen Babylon King is a prophesy of the future antichrist who is possessed by satan and running the new world order/one world govnt etc...In Hebrew Lucifer is also Halal or light bearer, he used to bear witness to the light of God that came from His heart during worship, the fiery/precious stones on Lucifers garments reflected the music and Glory of God to the creation/angelic host during this worship time. This is where Lucifer wanted this worship for himself and fell because of this sin
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Dude, you need to read all of Jeremiah 4. You are taking verses out of context and that is making you a false prophet. I need to go no further with you. May Jesus give you eyes that see and ears that hear.
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I thought angels didnt have a sex...
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......then, his wives and children; and he could have them without number: It probably means he had a lot of property, and had a lot of money. Kind of a mob rule society. Notice it doesn't mention there ever being any mighty women here. Vs. 4 "The same became mighty men." in vs, 6 the passage says it repented God that he had made man on the Earth. Due to mans wickedness. Doesn't say he was grieved because heavenly angels had relations with humanoids, because it didn't happen.
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Why the hell is this Calling Gabrielle a Demon..., Blasphemy
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