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Stephen Fry on the Joys of Swearing

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Stephen Fry on the Joys of Swearing From celebrations of Fry's 50th birthday. Please see Slang blogs related to this here: www.myspace.com/gsmokeyjoe

Jennifer Bailey Shared on Google+ · 5 months ago
To all you fucking prissy fucks out there.  ;)
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Yeah necro'd threads are fun. And yes, people with wide vocabularies swear all the time. I trump your totally irrelevant anecdotal evidence with some of my own!
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Why would someone with access to thousands of words use a played out swear that may have been edgy in the 60's but is not totally meaningless and boring!!
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Warning: Essay Incoming It's hilarious how swear words are really more catchy, compact ways of expressing acceptable meanings, yet people are shunned for using them, being more efficient and passionate.  Fuck can mean sex or extreme dislike and annoyance.   It all stems from inequality.  Rich higher class people use a certain set of words, poor people another.  Rich people look down on poor people, and thus their language.  Some poor people language sticks around, and remains looked down upon. After a couple generations, those words are taken for granted to be bad, no questions asked.  That's what those people grew up with.  If I walked into a room and said,  I AM EXTREMELY ANNOYED AT ALL OF YOU, a few heads would turn from the volume, but I wouldn't cause too much of a scene.  Now if I said FUCK YOU, the room would attack me.  Same meaning.  Different sound.  It's better to just not swear to cause less of a scene, but if everyone understood this, things would change. *exhales
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Catherine Prickett Shared on Google+ · 2 months ago
"'It's not necessary.'  Well, neither is this cushion."
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+Danny Shaw If you gain joy in your life from swearing you're a pretty pathetic person!! If you swear out of anger, you need to calm yourself maybe do meditation. If you swear because your lazy and don't want to use your mind to form real thoughts, then you need to improve your mind, thinking and attitude!! No there's nothing noble or intelligent about swearing as fry is trying to inculcate us to believe!!
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+Johnny Brist strawman. fry never said or implied that people who swear are more intelligent. he just pointed out that people who say the complete opposite are the real idiots. you cant even respond to his argument. you have to fabricate a position that he does not hold and respond to that instead. watch the video again and you will realise the false dichotomy that you seem to think exists here. its not ''intelligent people swear unintelligent dont''. his position is a more nuanced one.
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6oodfella Shared on Google+ · 7 months ago
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The problem here is that Stephen Fry is actually good at swearing. He's creative with his words. Just look at the average internet user, and then come back to claim these people have a wide vocabulary. It's amusing when british people swear. But the over-used "you're a fucking retard, faggot" does not imply any intelligence at all. It implies a complete lack of it. 
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+Johnny Brist "You're clearly make excuses for Fry here!" Nope, I like Fry but I would still say if he was wrong. It's just that you're wrong. "There's no such thing as addictive personality" Like I said, peer pressure can make anyone break, even the intellectuals. I should also point out that you are using an ad hominem argument, which isn't judging Stephens point, but rather your argument is judging him as a person. "How is it Racist?" You made a point, without evidence or experience. I would wager that Americans swear just as much on average as Brits. So why don't you just drop your superiority complex. Beacuse, it is American and British social custom to use "fuck" or "shit" in either of those places. Just like "eh" in Canada, or la like Singaporeans use. People use those words in those places, because it works. They are not "played out" since people still use them. Words do not have a use by date, stop acting like they do. "Why not use any other word out of thousands of words?" Because "fuck" is quite high on the list of usable words, and it is rather effective at getting your point across since everyone knows what it means. "If one cannot think of any due to low IQ and vocab, at least use Damn or something like that, which isn't overused!" Then "Damn" will get over used. And as Fry pointed out in the video, swearing does not always equal a low IQ or vocab. Also, whether something is "overused" or not is subjective. You "damn" hipster.
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+Johnny Brist ''Your totally false'' - how can i be false? you can disagree with my subjective opinion on swearing but when something is subjective, like the use of words, it cant be false. only objective things can be false. ''they don't say it when they can't remember something,'' - you have never had a conversation with someone who said something like this? ''hey, did you see that movie last night?'' ''what movie?'' ''oh that movie with jason statham. oh what was it called it? oh fuck uhm what was that fucking movie called?'' you have really never heard someone use the word like that before? you are saying in your personal experience you have never heard someone use the f word like that before therefore it never happens? are you beginning to see why that is kind of dumb? ''and if they did, instead of pausing to remember it, that would make them unintelligent. '' - so instead of making a longish awkward pause they cant swear? otherwise that would instantly show that they are stupid? now that in of itself is stupid. some people try to jog their memorys by saying certain things or doing things like snapping their fingers. that is not stupid. just because you think its stupid doesnt make it so. just because you dont do it doesnt mean its stupid. just because you hold yourself up to a higher standard than most does not make you more intelligent than other people. i think you are projecting there. ''An intelligent person waits to remember or form his point before he speaks.'' - how so?  ''hey buddy i cant remember the name of this movie so if we could both just sit in awkward silence for a moment so that i can remember it that would be great'' no thats stupid and its not how regular discourse goes. if anything that is rude. making an awkward pause so that you can gather your thoughts is not a sign of intelligence its arrogant because its making it out that your point or thought is more important than the rest of the conversation. if you have to pause to gather your thoughts or remember something other people will start to talk, interrupting your moment. if you have to pause to remember something like that you will have to inform other people of what you are trying to do. that sounds like a dictionary definition of a stupid person to me. it sounds like someone who is socially inept. it sounds like someone whos brain is not functioning at the speed of a normal person. that person is slow. that person is stupid. how are you not seeing this? also ''before he speaks?'' women can and do talk so maybe you should watch your wording. ''But people use the Fword in every sentence'' - people? what people? generalize the whole planet. everyone or most people use the f word in every sentence. really? ive never met anyone like that. maybe people do. so what? its not some global discourse crises that is sweeping the planet. some people over use it therefore we need to fight it? its not a problem just because most people that you have met (that seems to be what you are saying unless you are massively over exaggeration) over use the f word. you are holding your subjective experience up to be objective. its anecdotal evidence. its appeal to anecdotal. its a logical fallacy.  ''But people use the Fword in every sentence it's not because they can't remember it's because they are lazy or in that habit and can't be bothered to use other real words that mean something!!'' - ive already explained this to you. maybe on a different thread but i know that i have. people do use the word to express emotion. to emphasise something. it has a use. some people over use it for a reason. its a useful word. therefore its useful. most dont overuse it. you are simply lying if you say that most do. the only way that you can confidently say what you said in that quote is if you either ignore or are ignorant of the fact that people can and do use the f word before other words. you can say ''that is fucking irrational'' it emphasizes the word after it and can help articulate a point. to say that someone is lazy in using it because they would rather use that word than use something more creative or articulate is absolute nonsense. most dont use it in place of a more obscure word or something. so what if they do? that in no way makes them unintelligent. laziness is not a sign of unintelligence. quite the contrary from the people i see in the world.  i have no idea why you seem to hate it so much and want to argue about how useful a popular word is. whether its uncreative or not is irrelevant.  ''The irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existence, rather a condition of it.'' -- Friedrich Nietzsche ''Fact is, Fry may say intelligent people use them, but he and those using them are not intelligent at all!!'' - i dont agree with everything stephan fry says but to say he and others like him are unintelligent is completely baseless. no amount of twisting and warping facts can possibly make it out that he is unintelligent and your arguments prove that. your entire argument is ''people swear therefore they are stupid.'' if anyone is unintelligent its you. im sorry to have to say that but your sophistry and unfounded claims seem to prove that. ''He himself was a drug addict '' - character assassination will not prove your point. using drugs or being addicted to drugs is not a sign of a lack of intelligence. another unfounded point. debunked by research. a simple google search will show you a plethora of answers with scientificly backed evidence that blows that idea out of the water. https://www.google.ie/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=intelligent%20people%20use%20drugs if anyone is showing a sign of a lack of unintelligence its you. im sorry to have to say that again.  ''How intelligent is he to become a drug addict'' - well clearly quite intelligent as studies have shown. ''There are a lot of posers who call themselves intelligent, but it's one thing to graduate from a prestigious university and another thing to possess real intelligence!!!'' - i agree. to say that you or someone else are intelligent or right on something just because they have graduated from a university is an argument from authority. to say someone is not intelligent simply because they delved into regular drug use is fucking retarded. 
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Well suck me filly. Wait... that doesn't work either :)
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To all you fucking prissy fucks out there.  ;)
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To all loser trash morons out there who are too illiterate to pick up a dictionary (or use your crappy phone that's even easier now!!)
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Quit fucking around you toothless fucking fuck. Your pathetic use of the fucking English language is outrageously fucking preposterous.
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FUCK is the greatest word in the world.
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+Doctor Turdmidget You're a prime example of why the UK has gone downhill since the 80's!!
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+Johnny Brist Really? Wow, I must have some insane magical powers to cause the decline of the UK simply by sitting on my ass in the US and posting on YouTube. Also, here is the word "fuck" again, just because it bothers you, chuckletits.
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Magda Pender Shared on Google+ · 5 months ago
To all you fucking prissy fucks out there.  ;)
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I haven't seen some of these sketches! I want to find them now.
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You're full of it Fry!! If you're so small minded that swearing gives you joy then you're very very lame!! Try growing up!!
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+Jade Sim So just because a famous actor swears that makes it cool? And no, people with education seldom swear in public. It's the beer swilling trailer park trash who swear in bars, etc. as well as fight, etc. And yes, women who swear are low class let's be honest here! What else would you like to emulate from sailors and inmates?? Oh, do you also want to box, do MMA, and play football, and kill people in the army? What, exactly, separates American women from men anymore, other than a dfferent anatomy?? Exactly, nothing, because they want to act like men!! No thanks!! And yes, Chinese are supposed to have manners towards their elders. Maybe you're a honky with no manners, but traditional Chinese are supposed to be respectful. You've lost your heritage, and now behave like a trash American, so sad!!
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You may notice how writing classes ask you to use strong, visual vocabulary when writing a narrative of some kind. Doing that will help to suck in the reader and keep his mind involved in the story. Swearing is strong language and can help listeners better catch on in much the same way from my experience. On another note; we need to at least start determining whether or not a word is a swear word on whether or not it actually contains a fowl meaning of some sort. In this case, "Shit" and "Ass" are by no means swear words, they're only as bad as their synonyms. Stupid being such an asshole towards people just because they use words that bother you. That makes you worse than them.
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My brother and my Abominable Child will enjoy this.  I should probably email it to my mother as well...  ;D via +Akshay Bist 
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...which also led to viewing several other very funny Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie clips.  Thank you!
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Er, what I meant to say...fuckin' A!
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Sorry to disagree with you Stephen (and the sweet lipped Jennifer Bailey) - I agree that swearing adds colour and expression to language and use it quite a lot myself. However, some words are specifically meant to be offensive, otherwise we wouldn't have a special category for them called 'swear words'. It is therefore unfair and unkind to condemn people as 'fussy' or 'over sensitive' if they are, indeed, offended. Believing that we are all at liberty to swear whenever and at whoever we like is selfish, and if I can say it again, risks being offensive. Swearing should be used carefully and reserved for those occasions that demand it (eg hitting your finger with a hammer). Casual overuse of swear words in any case diminishes their potency. 
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+Danny Shaw swears like the Fword are virtually meaningless at this point they are so utterly overused in every sentence by many kids, and perhaps some adults now!! No it doesn't show you are smart, as Fry spouts his utter nonsense, it shows you lack intelligence and creativity!! Why would someone who has a wide vocab continually fall back on a tired, overused, played out, and crude swear like the Fword? Makes NO sense, when they could pull from their vast vocab to find the exact word to convey what they want! Utter nonsense from Fry, the John Cleese wannabe.
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+Johnny Brist the f word is used to emphasise other words. it is useful therefore it isnt pointless. over used by kids? i dont tend to listen to kids because they only care about tedious stuff but whatever. i have a great oscar wilde quote for you ''Everything popular is wrong.” ― Oscar Wilde. it seems  like that is true. every time something like the harlem shake comes a long everyone joins in then the ''cool'' people bitch about how everyone else is now doing it then its just wrong to do it. everyone now uses the f word now its ''unsophisticated'' or ''pointless'' or ''crude''. its nonsense. its popular for a reason. i very rarely hear people swear in public but the people who do swear a lot tend to have wider vocabularys. ive heard many people say this. there is nothing wrong with swearing. it seems that the only thing you could really find fault with about my quote is that its stephan fry. somehow he is a john cleese wannabe. dont see what that has to do with the actual quote other than the name next to it. if i stuck any name next to it you would have found an ad hominem to use.   ''No it doesn't show you are smart,'' fry never said that and i never said that in fact i dont think anybody ha sever said that so i dont see how thats a relevant argument. you are refuting a position that nobody holds. if you dont like how people use words then dont use the word that way. if you dont like how people dress a certain way then dont dress that way. if you dont like any trivial thing about other people then dont do this things yourself. telling other people why its wrong to speak a certain way is fine. its all subjective but then displaying that subjective opinion as if its objective is just stupid in my opinion. 
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May I just say that I was shocked to see that cushion there, it really wasn't fucking necessary.
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+Johnny Brist I my point is that swearing is okay, than I am going to swear. Whether I do or do not swear does not alter the point in which I am making. And with the topic, I would doubt that usage of swearing would lesser the impact of a statement.
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+Ashley Mills How is it OK to swear, when even the other swears are overused? In UK I'm sure they use all of them, in US it's mostly Fword, Mother F-er, and variations of that. But as you proved on your other post, you don't need to swear to have an impact! In fact, the use of uncommon words, or made up words that you used was in fact more impactful!! The human mind glosses over the ordinary, the repetitive, and instead seeks uncommon, out of place things. It looks for differences! Using uncommon words or made up words like you did engages the mind! Whereas, using overused swears like the Fword, shit, etc. is almost non-registered now, since many people use them in every other sentence.
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In my opinion, this video was immensely offensive. I really can't believe that people would allow a cushion to be on that sofa!!!!!!!
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Which program is this from?
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David Stroe Shared on Google+ · 5 months ago
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Tary Allen Shared on Google+ · 1 year ago
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One of my English professors swore quite a bit (including hilarious Scottishisms such as "I can't be arsed"), and he obviously had a good education and a wide vocabulary. I wish society would pull the collective stick out of its collective ass when it comes to swearing and stop paying attention to the prissy people who want the English to go back to the 1950s. It's just another method of expression and way of adding spice and color to the language.
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He's got Alan Bennett behind his shoulder. Need any more be said?
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Oh, and swearing is not a really important part of one's life!! IF it is, you need to get a life because you're really really immature!! Working, playing, having good relationships these are important part of one's life, not swearing. Swearing is a repetitive, tired, meaningless and played out endevour (if one could call it that)!!
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Oh for Zeus' sake. Crawl up in your own rectum and smell the fumes of your own self-importance. Of course this is probably easier said than done, since your original remark indicate a certain tightness in your behind. The only way your first comment could be anymore ham-fisted, was if you included "the pursuit of happiness".  Work isn't meaningful for billions of people and your other poor attempts at defining universal meaning in existence are equally vague as they are; tired, meaningless and played out concepts. We don't curse because it's controversial, we curse because the smacking sound and impact of a well placed "fuck, spices the sentence far better than saying "very". We curse because it's far more entertaining to call people with sticks up their asses for "cringy conservative cunts" rather than "boring".  Good cursing is lingual aphrodisiac and the sound equivalent of fine winery.
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+Snobby Gamer Wow you are really trying to spin a low class vice, if you will, into a high class trait aren't you? No it's not like a fine winery!! A wine takes years of dedication and craftsmanship!! Swearing takes no intellect, no vocab, and no thinking so how can it be equated to the craftsmanship of a winery? Hahahaha you losers crack me up!! So you're telling me you go around in public and swear at people calling them "cringy conservative cunts" Please post a video of your public swearing at people I'd like to see if they punch you in the face, which they should, hahhaahaha
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He even swears politely
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I love this!  Stephen Fry is GOD!  LOL  I love swearing as well.  Especially at trolls.  Then they get all bent out of shape and try to accuse me of a poor vocabulary.  No surprise, that's all they can come up with.  What's even funnier is they all seem to share the same brain cell because that's all they all ever come up with.  Not one of them can come up with ANYTHING original to say.  I LOVE IT! 
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+Liam Sutton yes your "counter culture" is very important!! Please go back to eating your ho-hos, breeding pit bulls (or Staffordshire Terriers if you're in England) and watching Honey Boo Boo (or equivalent trash show in England!)
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+Liam Sutton Ah you got me on that one, hahahaha. I'll come up with a better term for Jay Z!!
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If we all start swearing and ravingly insulting at each other then chaos will follow. Social disorder and political will soon follow as politicians won't argue, but say how of the opposite side fucked his mother and how he is a man-hoe!  And yeah, swearing is ACTUALLY a lack of EDUCATION. In fact because English language is so extremely poor and incomplete and Stephen Fry clearly exploits that I will explain in it in Greek in brief. In Greek there is a clear dinstiction between truly educated people and pseudo-educated like Stephen Fry. "Εκπαιδευμένος" is someone that is being school-educated by the system and repeats that education in real life. "Μορφωμένος" is someone who is TRULY dignified-educated and knows the that swearing is in fact a cheap dumb-cunning(κουτοπόνηρος) way of getting the upper hand and winning. A μορφωμένος avoids swearing and insulting as much as he can because as soon as you insult you actually lost the debate. It's difficult to explain to you animalistic barbarians that built your poor-minded civilizations upon that thing to get the upper hand and you deny it everyday. You overepeat the uncivilized words "stupidity", "retardation" and "ridiculous" to barbarically insult the others when you left out of arguements and you can battle back, but here in Greece we don't do that in debates because we are the most civilized and most intelligent people in the world. And we call those uncivilized persons "κομπλεξικούς or παλιοκομπλεξάρες" meaning full of different complexes like inferiority complex, go complex and full of problems like misery, depression and so. And also people like Stephen Fry "ψευτοκουλτουριάρηδες or κουλτουριάρηδες"  meaning pseudo-intellectual snobbish inferiority-complexed people full of sciolism, of superficial knowledge, of low level and lack of true wholistic education. So, we are more far more highly all-intelligently god-made advanced than you little-in-significance ανθρωπάκια think. :-) People who swear a damn lot are the ones who don't know how to communicate and Stephen Fry is one of them. They communicate like mindless barking animals and not human beings. P.S: Stephen Fry doesn't approve deep inside of a society that makes uncotrollably free swearing because then he would have no influental power. He manipulates the sleepy inoccent tolerating society to say his massive stupidities.  From the massive stupidities he say, he doesn't even understand or listen to what he says. He just let's the alarm clock and says whatever comes to his head without philosophising or thinking it first.
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+Trismegistos Giwrgaras Wow, your comments are really illuminating!! This should be taught in civics class in the US and Canada!! Yes, swearing is a lack of education and vocab, there's no way around that Fry is spouting nonsense in this video. He's just a John Cleese wannabe! At least Cleese doesn't go around encouraging kids to swear!!
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+Trismegistos Giwrgaras I don't know much about Greek, but what Trismegistos said was truly illuminating!!
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"The swear police are the most miserable people on earth." -Jess Hall
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+MANDRAC and the people who use the Fword in every sentence are the most pathetic people on earth!! Learn a few new words, losers!!
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To me, swearing means I'm comfortable enough to not watch my language. That's a beautiful thing.  The mask has dropped a little.
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I cannot agree more with this.
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When you say a word too much it loses its meaning. On that basis I reserve swearing for when I really mean it. I also try to mix it up a little, so I usually pick less common words.
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+Reece Swaby I would say that's how language has devolved! We have thousands and thousands of words to choose from, but small minds choose the Fword instead of learning our language!!
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+Lauren Lynley OMG is that the best "argument" you can come up with, hahahaha. You totally sidestepped all my valid points!! Fry is a John Cleese wannabe! He'll never be as funny as Cleese!! And if he's so smart, why not enlighten us with vocab we've never heard before? Why fall back on a played out swear? Anyone with true intelligence and a wide vocab would never use the Fword on a regular basis. Why would they? They have thousands of words to choose from which would precisely match the meaning they want!! Why would they use played out swears that basically have little to no meaning at this point??
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I use the word 'Cunt' as a term of endearment ;o) 
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+Johnny Brist you sound like a cunt ;o)
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i love Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie
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Oh man if some of the people i regrettingly know saw this video, their worlds would be turned Up-side FUCKING down! hahahahahah just tooo good!
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The younger generation (and some of the older Trailer Park crowd) have overused the Fword so much it's become utterly meaningless, tired and old!! If you think you're cool using it in every sentence, think again!! You're about the biggest loser you can be!! You're simply following the crowd in a pathetic attempt to be accepted!! Oh, and PS for the younger generation, SELFIES SUCK!!
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Swearing can make anything you say more expressive! "I fucking love this" sounds better than "I love this". It adds more excitement and expression!
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+ZamfirChannel you show just how only losers use that term, bravo!!
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+Clarestovold I like that, appearing and saying "Hey Man, Not Cool" bravo!! But it's more amazing that losers post useless comments on Youtube, mostly just swearing cause they have low IQs
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Swearing does not reveal any personality of ones other than the fact that he swears. Think about it, you can be intelligent and cuss, you can be rich and cuss, you can be very kind and cuss( maybe not at people). See people who read this and once disagree or still disagree will realize what assumptions do to them.
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+Johnny Brist 'there are thousands of other words which can convey your feelings perfects' That's the point - there aren't. Swearwords exist because they are uniquely expressive. No other words express certain emotions as well as swearwords. Sure, other words may have the same definitions, but to quote an article I read a while back, 'taboo words are perfectly constructed for emotional release'. If you accidentally hit your thumb with a hammer and involuntarily said one of the following, which do you think would get your anger out most effectively: 1. 'Oh, bother!' 2. 'Oh, dammit!' 3. 'Oh, bollocks!'?
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+TranscendentLion but you have missed my point. Fword for instance isn't reserved for accidents and extreme anger situations anymore like it used to be. Now it's used indiscriminately, for positive meanings and just plain non-meanings sprinkled into sentences, almost the way Canadians use Eh. So it's been rendered meaningless, and what's worse it's overused and irritating!! Remember when valley talk kids used to say Like all the time, or Dude all the time it gets irritating. Plus it's a crude word that makes it even more irritating. Like if someone kept saying Shit all the time (which a lot of people still do) or someone says bitch all the time it's a lot more irritating than if someone says, eh, or yah, or as others mention "and" these are so small words you really don't notice them.
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XD "Uh, I told him to mind his fucking language m'lord."
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It was a great video but...What was up with that unnecessary cushion?
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+Johnny Brist I would, at this point, point out AGAIN why using the word 'necessary' is so fucking pathetic and demonstrates your total fucking stupidity, but I don't care anymore. I just do not care. I'm not continuing this pointless conversation anymore. You're a repetitive bore with limited understanding a huge, ill-earned ego. Don't reply to this. Just fuck off.
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+Thomas McDonald OK sure I've proved my point that it's not needed or wanted!!
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Overuse of the Fword has rendered it meaningless, pointless, tired and old!! Please people try and GROW UP and use adult words, hahahahaha
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+Poo McPoo yes it is overused but not as irritating as Fword is!! It screams trash, and tells the world you are a trashy loser!! But that's the decline of society both in UK and US which were once much better countries weren't they?
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GG then. I would just copy and paste comments that I put on your other comments but can't be arsed. Also sorry for the bulk reply as I just discovered the notifications button and have replied to none of my replies since 2012!
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I think the UK sounds funnier. But a man from London said he likes how we do things. I guess what you're used to isn't as exciting when you hear someone else say it.
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I love this man. Comedic genius.
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Shantha Bunyan Shared on Google+ · 1 year ago
Love Stephen Fry!  Fry and Laurie was awesome and Jeeves and Wooster was so great. And if you live in the US, it's worth making the effort to get a hold of a copy of the British English version of the Harry Potter audiobooks he narrates, rather than the US version available here.  They're amazing...  (No offense to the Jim Dale aficionados.)
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Ellim Sluouf Shared on Google+ · 1 year ago
FUCK MONSANTO>>>>>>>>>>>> FUCK THE TPP >>>>>>>>>>
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+Dave Witham Baloney we have more than enough food to feed the world right now, stop drinking the Cool Aid!
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+chebob2009 Begging someone to please please learn scientific principles and accusing them of lacking adequate references based on a post found in a thread of comments related to a video about colorful language is not debating nor reasoning. It is predatory attacking. He is not proposing a thesis and trying to convince you of it in a scientific forum. He is expressing his frustration with his reality. One is expected to be brief in comment threads, which I am not being in the interest of injecting a comprehensive view, and the other one can Google it if he wants more information. You have not offered one iota of evidence for your assertions. Rather, you continually refute his points with more ad hominem attacks. Your theses: "What, and let the world starve?" and "Science has not proven that." And you accuse another of baseless assertions? Ad hominem is one of the most common and cheap of fallacies employed by bad debaters. Constantly jabbing at someone's further offerings of links to studies (and since when is Harvard spearheading an invasion of the world by proponents of health food?) is the work of a pest, not an intelligent debater, You may win one by wearing your opponent down, but if that is your m.o., it will never end for you. You will never be satisfied, and you will never learn anything. The purpose of scientific enquiry is to learn, not to establish dominant, unilateral theories. You are misunderstanding science as well as debate. You are also forgetting wisdom and logic, which keep science in check. The wisdom here is that millennia of trial and error have given us a clear view of what works and what does not work provided mostly by people who understand the big picture vis a vis reliable nourishment. It has been a science experiment conducted in the complex arena of reality with reliable results. There is evidence in the success of permaculture and the failure of monoculture. Failure? But Monsanto rules the world! Well, Monsanto still exists because of the vested interest many powerful politicians have in its profits. They are subsidized by tax payers who have no interest in inedible corn. The inedible corn is channeled into bloated ethanol campaigns and into the bellies of cattle, who die from it. Google it. Monsanto also hedges its bets, a fact known by few. They have a whole department that certifies organic farms. They are no more confident in their developments than you are. Let's define "what works." For the apprehension of nourishment, what works is to grow plants that also nourish the soil, which will nourish other plants. As Thomas Berry wrote, "If it is good for the valley [the ecosystem] then it is good. If it is bad for the valley, it is bad." That is common sense. If you kill the crops that feed the bees, the bees will not be there to pollinate and no fruit will come. What good reason could one possible have to ignore the laws of cause and effect? And by good I mean Good. And what is the value of winning an argument if you do not contribute something good to the world? Having goals beyond just winning is what separates the men from the boys.
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anyone know what that last scene is from?
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Fuck yes, this!
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No one fucking said it better.
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+thedoctorand Would say he's a John Cleese wannabe!! Will never be as funny as Cleese, the other Pythons, or others like the Two Ronnies!! To see someone who speaks well swear totally ruins his persona. Fword is so played out it's just annoying at this time!
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Peter Roelant Shared on Google+ · 1 year ago
Why swearing is important - according to Stephen Fry - http://goo.gl/x4dca
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Eric Austin Shared on Google+ · 1 year ago
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David Dean Shared on Google+ · 1 year ago
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I fucking wish fucking cunts would stop fucking swearing!!
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It's so fucking unnecessary to fucking swear all the fucking time.
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+TranscendentLion yah it's for losers who are illiterate!!
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Wendy Allen Shared on Google+ · 1 year ago
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Chris Fink (Trek Dad) Shared on Google+ · 1 year ago
Profanity is the crutch of the inarticulate? Fuck off! :)
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The 1st amendment isn't designed to protect Mickey Mouse, it's designed to protect people like me, so FUCK YOU!
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Carl Draper Shared on Google+ · 1 year ago
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Stephen Fry... Swearing... I can only but +1 this!
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Ok I'm starting to see what your point is. I still dis-agree with your proposed methods, however I actually understand why you feel the way you do now. I may get criticism for this, but rather than your proposed Authoritarian Regime, I think there needs to be a global crisis of some sort. Something to stimulate people to take some sort of meaningful actions in their lives.
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My state is probably average. Many many kids here cannot pass the state exams for minimum mastery. Perhaps Boston is different, but I'm talking about the majority of states here. People are literally so lazy now that they can't get of our their vehicle to bank, order food, or get a prescription. They are getting fat and unhealthy. Majority of ladies here are really overweight. People text and talk on phones while driving.
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high birth rates are, since people don't take the time to educate their kids just expect the school to do it, and many don't have enough money to raise 4, 5, or more kids. Plus, it overflows the schools and they have to use portables. Plus, where will double the jobs needed now come from in 10-15 years?? This is abusing freedom for sure!!
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That sound bite starting at :56 is just beautiful.
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You evade every point I have made. Number 1, people don't use it like they did in WW2 do they?? Explain to me how it even has any meaning anymore?? Number 2, when I say character I'm talking about moral character, self control, etc. not character like oh he's a real character. And I do not believe you can control your swearing, once you start it's pretty hard to stop, just like smoking!!
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1) No, the same argument is not used for all. And, yes, you did put forth a slippery slope when you said that it leads to inciting fights. 2) No, it doesn't matter if it offends you. The supreme court has been very clear on this. You DO NOT have a right to not be offended. 3) Sounds like a good plan you got there, Hitler. Eliminate those you deem to be inferior to you. You should just stop. You're not doing yourself any favors and are just exposing your idiocy.
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Nothing. However, it is being replaced by the term "comfort zone," which is why I made the above joke-thing. A better question is why must a bathroom be called a comfort zone?
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people text and talk on phones while driving. Again, another example of too much freedom. Even though it's against the law in my state, no one pays attention. The punishments for this and enforcement is too lax. Fact is, punishment for many crimes is too lenient. Child sexual abuse is shown on the news all the time. Why? If the punishment was death, do you think there would be so many child abuse, gun homicides, etc? If possessing a gun was automatic death, do you think gangs would carry guns??
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you did not hear anyone swearing during the punk era??? please please do be quiet,you talk some amount of shite for the one guy, and for your information BONDS ENGLAND never EVER existed! you fucking head in the hollywood hills arsehole, I am from Scotland and guess what we don't all live in castles and walk about in our kilts,just in case you were confused with your cinematic education.
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@Taylor Russo you're not that smart.
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ABSOLUTE DRIVEL. You know i used to smoke,gave up around 10-11 years ago, i have great self control/will power. I started smoking because i wanted to,I stopped smoking because i wanted to! If i chose to use profanity in my comments it is because i want to and i will not stop just because some other persons thoughts on the matter are contrasting towards mine,my great grandmother told my mother "it would be a funny old world if we were all the same"
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you are obviously young and uneducated or a bigot of some sort
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I know a number of actual engineers personally, as opposed to simply speculating vacuously about them, and most of them possess language skills that are far in advance of the average person's, owing to their intelligence and education.
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you must not have a lot of control if you can't even control what comes out of your mouth. and comparing vocabulary to a physiological addiction? lol that's a bit flawed
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go read your bible... i'm sure it makes more sense to you than reality
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No, but he says those that swear tend to have the widest vocab, and that it doesn't show lack of education. Both are incorrect. Why use a word like the Fword that is so overused, is actually has no meaning anymore, instead of using a choice of thousands or words from a dictionary?
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Well I'm not a comedian and the people I know who swear are far more educated and intelligent than those who don't. But then again, the people I know who don't swear are mostly religious nut jobs so I guess the the point to be taken from this is that swearing is absolutely not connected to ones vocabulary or intelligence.
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If I ever meet Stephen Fry, I will hug him and tell him 'You are fucking amazing!'
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@masterblend100, what is truly amazing to me is the amount of effort you have expended here, arguing about what other people should or should not say (or worse, be "allowed" to say). It seems that all of that time and effort could have been directed toward something that has some value. If this is truly a cause you feel deeply about (it certainly appears to be), hashing it out on YouTube with people who certainly appear not to care, seems a fool's errand at best.
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I love swears... I find it's a really efficient way of expressing emotions. Like if I said: "I can't fucking wait for the QI K series to be aired". That shows you I'm actively waiting for it.
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Another example, people are way overweight here. Why? Number one, people are free to eat WHATEVER they want! There is little regulation of food here. Also, companies are free to sell whatever they want, even if it's filled with preservatives, corn syrup, and too much salt. So the corps sell crap, and the people eat it!! Why? Too much freedom!! The Corps are not regulated as to what they sell!!
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/watch?v=yntUfDxfJXk stephen fry made a grindcore album
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I have no idea. It's probably another euphemism that just popped up because people wanted a nicer word than bathroom or restroom, which is ridiculous.
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He doesn't say that EVERY SINGLE educated person swear you need to chill.
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Took you a couple of months to come up with that witty zinger didn't it?
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No. House isn't in there. Hugh Laurie, is though, and little wonder given that Fry & Laurie have done signifcant amounts of comedy together and are very good friends indeed.
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first of all, this guy can't compare to either of the Two Ronnies or the Monty Python crew. He's the poor man's John Cleese, is clearly trying to emulate him, but isn't as funny so it doesn't come off. Secondly, he probably made it big in spite of his swearing, since comedians aren't held to the same standards as other professions. Thirdly, funny words or non-words are what make things funny. Check out "Ronnie Barker - Mispronunciation Sketch" or any John Cleese sketch they kill this Fry!!
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They may or may not be facts in your state but it still doesn't make it the rule. I will say this, to a point I agree with you. The world is becoming over-populated if it isn't already. I think you are right and wrong about the military, I have met hard-working and intelligent members of the military. I've also met a lot of...Stupid ones. Whether you're right about the parents priorities or not, I will say that sport and activity is just as important as school work. For a balanced lifestyle.
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@Steve Sauder -Well YouTubers do tend to display an ardent sense of hyperbolic superfluous. It's a rare find to engage in stimulating discussion on this site.
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