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Pros & Cons of the Health Care Reform Bill

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everybody gets some coverage?   Young turks are jerks.  Some coverage means they drain you with payments and then when you need to use it you have 5k or more deductible so you still lose your house    thank you democrats
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I voted Democrat because...  Working is too hard. Thinking is way too hard.  I am 26, sponging off my mom, and I want free Health Care.  Freedom of speech is fine as long as I am not offended by it.  I want government to tax your earnings and give me things I want. If I knock-up my girlfriend I want government to pay her to kill the baby and want abolish the death penalty
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Look at it now promote being poor or rich diffidently not promoting prosperity 
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Hey Cenk, dumb-fuck, explain to me why medical costs are so high? It couldn't have ANYTHING to do with Medicare/caid Pumping over a TRILLION dollars into the so-called Industry EVERY SINGLE YEAR? Yea, that has nothing to do with the inflated costs of healthcare, shit, an X-ray costs $700. Not exactly cutting edge tech.
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Anyone who believes this is a good law,just watch how it unfolds.....this is a DISASTER!!!.....founded on LIES!
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Deductibles are going way up! Thats a BIG problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The video below is the ABSOLUTE truth about Obamacare.. Republicans and Democrats Agree on Forced Health Insurance WATCH IT AND VOTE THIS UP SO OTHERS TURKS SEE IT!! VOTE IT UP NOW!
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wow, and now here we are 4 years after this video was created. Everything under this law is crumbling yet we still have stalwarts like Yenk keeping the dream alive!!!! No matter what happens, Progs like Yenk will still fight the good fight!!! Fucking loser, even MSNBC didn't pick you up, you moron.
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Same with education. Barack & Michelle CLAIM to care about our education, but once again, this is just another blatant lie. The reality is, Obama has not only added years to students' degree programs, but has cut their financial aid! I know this for a fact, as my wife was getting financial aid, to go to nursing school, and now cannot afford to finish her education, because Obama has taken her financial aid away, plus added another year to her curriculum.
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who is this guy? I want to use some of what he is saying in a paper but can't source him without his name. Someone please help.
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*facepalm* Collective, fascist and now marxist too? I must be suffering from some serious dissociative identity disorder.
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When nobody buys because the insurance costs too much this thing is going to die anyway. Affordable, my @ss
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would'nt high premiums just mean more coverage if they have to use 80% of premiums for medical services? and if thats true, wouldn't insurance companies want to lower premiums? Either way you're still getting a lot of good coverage for you're money. Right?
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The name of this should be "Pros & Cons of the Anti-Christ"
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I doubt hes the worst presisdent of America. In fact I heavily doubt he is even close to being the least popular president of America as evidently he wouldn't of been voted in for a double period if that were the case. Added to that obamas plans have been shown to work. For example many countries in Europe utilise a free healthcare system such as the NHS which generally has more positive effects rather than negative ones. Added to this the state of the economy is not entirly down to him.
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I wanted to watch this because I thought you'd outline(unbiased) the pros/cons based on what is in the bill. Unfortunatelly you went into a rant about the Republicans and high prices.Why did I think this would be any different than any other Young Jerks video?
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That almost sounds noble of you except for the fact that you're pledging other people's money (like every good libtard does) not your own. Obama has created a national debt ($17 trillion) that is very dangerous and irresponsible, and it's ignorant/reckless people like you that ignore out of control spending until catastrophe hits and then you're the very first to whine. Get some smarts before it's too late. Really.
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That is my understanding as well. If insurance companies spend more than what we have paid in on our premiums- we will receive a rebate due to the overpayment. It's quite confusing.
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yeah and you how it will effect our country-pre-existing conditions will now be covered and the CEO of the insurance company won't get his $9 million a year salary-what a shame
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What this guy is saying is proof of his lack of knowledge on how this system works to a degree. Medical health care savings accounts with catastrophic coverage is by far the cheapest way to go. My catastrophic coverage with 300k worth of life insurance has an unlimited benefit for illness is around 145.00 per month. I pay the first 5k per year of expenses. Now if I had a tax deductible medical savings account, money that was mine not the governments, money that I spent like it was mine to lose
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It doesn't matter what country I'm comparing America with..Also Africa is a third world continent ;). The point I'm trying to make is I don't agree with you saying "we shouldn't be looking over our shoulders cause we are so different, we don't need to change". Just cause you think you were created as something different doesn't mean you can't learn from others if they found a system that works better.
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I'll tell you how we can go back... vote Ron Paul 2012!
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You all need to realize Obama didn't write this bill. congress did. Republicans and Democrats. Obama is just compromising. Which can be bad..
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Well maybe we can learn from Hong Kong look they dont have government healthcare but the healthcare in hong kong cost less. If we want more affordable healthcare, we should let healthcare companies compete with each other. Gov. healthcare will drive up the cost and hurt capitalism.
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LOL we hate you too! In fact give it time Obammy will invade your asses ! HAHAH
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Government AND private charities, insurances and welfare programs rob us all of loving helpful families and communities as we help as we are commanded. The extra cost of administering government and private helps is unnecessary. SHUT DOWN our government; most of what we do enslaves us to jobs and bad health, leading us to extinction instead of garden paradise lifestyle. REPEAL ObamaCare; God warned against debt, interest, insurance and seeking riches and honors; DON'T RAISE the debt ceiling.
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Clever response. You should probably look up what those words mean in the future.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but our system in Canada is not going broke. We have the lowest debt to GDP ratio in the G8, and up until the great Recession of 2008, we had years and years of surpluses. The systems in the UK and Germany are also not going broke.
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The effects "Crony Capitalism" certainly haven't been good. A free market system is what brought great wealth and power to this country. Free markets highly encourage innovation through competition, and job creation. What would you suggest besides Capitalism? It's not perfect, but it has seen the most success over any other system. At least, over any other system where its citizens are somewhat free. But maybe you'd rather have the government tell you how to build your business?
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If there were an 800 number where health care professions could be fully protected and rewarded (cash) for reporting abuses we could save billions.
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I agree I sure can't afford it. Obama should of stopped trying to shove this bill down peoples throats and hold off tell he had fix and not a band aid. However, the young turks keep sounding like conservatives came up with this idea. it's not called republicare.
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So we're basically being forced to pay for healthcare, they will basically be taking our money, and we still get no healthcare because the premiums are too high?? But we still have to pay because its mandatory?? That's crazy
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How. By the spirit saint, amen. We need jobs, we need to put those people that living under the goverment help for century, we need to put out those ilegal people that affecting our labor process, we need that the goverment dont our jobs goes to over sea.
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All of your 'problems' are fixed by Obamas idea of having a public buy in. If the private insurance companies don't pay up when they need to and all of their customers go the route of public insurance then they will lose money and ultimately go broke.
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@piddleton Even if I believed that... I still wouldn't want it... Sorry but for some of us... freedom is more important..
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Yeah oct 1st free medicaid opens to all low income families and individuals. Its part of the new law. 31 million more americans getting free medicare while your paying for it. Thank you upfront to all working class people for paying for us poor middle class families barely making it as it is. :)
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dude, we shouldn't let people die off because they were a little careless at first, and there will always be people who abuse the system, Don't let those few individuals ruin the system for all of us.
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The difference is who is making the decisions, the number of people to be serviced and who is controlling. Canada has 1/10 population of U.S. - was transferred to Toronto with children. Health care was automatically deducted from my salary the same as taxes. I thought It was a very good system (OHIP). But not here. We are a different country than Europe and Canada. Please support " dontfundit " and then let us get to work to have politicians write good laws that will give everyone care.
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great job. helped clear somethings up. rock on friend!!
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Finally a place where i get the actual truth about this bill from unbiased facts.
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majority of the american ppl were against obamacare. Ppl dont realize the effects this will have on our country.
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You're still going to pay it, 50% more actually. On oct 1st Medicaid will be given out free to all families that make less than $43,000 a year (which is pretty much half of the usa including illegal immigrants). You will be paying for 31 million more americans now getting free heath care from tax payers dollars plus your own health care premiums will go up, More money over all out of your pocket.
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Major health insurance companies--Blue Cross, Aetna, United, Humana--have decided not to participate in various states in the Obamacare health-insurance exchanges that will be the only place Americans will be able to buy a health insurance plan using the federal subsidies authorized under the Obamacare law. This is gonna be a disaster, collectivism doesn't work. Already premiums are up and people are getting fired or cut back in hours, nobama and liberals suck!
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NowThePeople I pay $200 a month for my insurance, then i have to pay $5000 out of pocket, but the $250 a month that I pay does not go towards the $5000 I have to pay out of pocket first. Im only 30 years old. I also pay $30-$50 everytime I see a doctor, $200 for ER visit, $75 for urgent care.
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Why are you bringing up Africa when I was talking about America? You are comparing America to a fucking 3rd world country you moron. You are inferring shit that isn't there but nice try prick.
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@srwilli4m If i may, i would like to send you personal message. I can't take this "500 character limit". It's pissing me off.
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That was the best answer on this thread cause it was a text book example of American pigheadedness x) haha. I guess countries in Africa should stop trying to fight poverty and beeing something else, cause them ol' countries where created as something different.
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"He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance. For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever." Declaration Of Independence kinda sounds like what they did with the shutdown, and what they're doing by hiring IRS agents to enforce the health care law.
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Hey kids! Kiss that i phone goodbye! You've got to pay for an illegals healthcare...they're counting on you. SUCKERS.
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@Stingerbillion The money IS good the schooling is the expensive part. Thats why doctors DESERVE every penny they get (for the most part) if I ever wanted to become a doctor and someone told me I could only earn 150k a year because of socialist bullshit I would never become one. Waiting times would increase because every free loading bastard would be able to go in the hospital for all their fatass lazy needs. PRIVATE healthcare companies should be regulated but we dont need socialist bullshit
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I don't think Mike is a liar, but he does see only what he wants to see. The issue is not Cuban health care, it is the system in the U.S. which is in need of reform.
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Why have i never watched this guy?
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See "Sicko" by Michael Moore. (Even if you hate Moore.) That documentary will make you sick!
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You know what . I wish that there was a provision to allow you dumb-assess to opt out .. and when you got sick .. we left your ass dying in the streets.. stupid
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ppl act like its great that u dont have to pay more based on pre existing conditions but they dont realize were all gonna be paying for this.
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You need to find a new CC typist.
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I agree with what you're saying. I think it's a little tricky looking at public health in the past though. I mean, how do we know if people never died of cancer in the stone age? We knew nothing about why people died in that period unless it was completely obvious like getting hit by a spear or something. The germ theory of disease wasn't even known until the 19th century :-( Obesity? Yeah, you're right. People more likely died of starvation or malnutrition in that time period.
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my wife has congestive heart failure and thus can't get private health ins., and was turned down for Medicaid. The high risk pool is $600/month plus $400 month in out of pocket copays/deductibles. And we were both laid off, so we can't afford that. So she isn't getting the care she needs. What a shame that US spends almost a trillion per year on being the world's policeman but doesn't even have health ins. for people like my wife. Too bad we don't live in Canada, France, Sweden, etc..
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I seen that documentary, and I seen the review of it on ABC News 20/20, Michael Moore is a big fat fucking liar.
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When this takes effect, watch how FAST employers start dropping health coverage for employees. Why should they continue to pay for you when they KNOW you're federally obligated to provide your own? The corporations will save billions. See how fast employees get cut to >35hrs per week and have to pay for their mandated insurance on a part-time salary. What about the folks who don't have jobs? How will they PAY? They don't need another BILL. They need a JOB! This solves nothing.
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Why can't you just have a few basic public hospitals in each city/town for those who cannot afford private health insurance. This is what we have in Australia. It means that everyone has access to some healthcare, and if you can afford better health coverage (private) there is the option too.. ??
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well, heres an idea, allowing contraception to poor countries will help people produce less children, that and educating people in foreign countires will also help
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Yes. But here is where you are wrong. We are not Hong Kong. We are the United States of America and we should not be compared to other nations because we were created as something different.
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Putting your egg's in one basket! Wrong!!
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Whats the Alternative - 500$ to repair a broken finger in the U.S. 0 dollars in Canada, 10 dollars in Asia, 0 Europe , 0 5 dollars in South America, 0 to 2 dollars Africa 0 dollars Middle East - You do the math dumb Assess! 62 percent of People in Massachusetts like mandated healthcare - 98 percent coverage - 100% of children Covered! Hawaii has UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE ..99 percent coverage and they like it.. LEAVE IT TO THE STATES.. Yea so whats taking the states so long
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why are the subtitles all fucked up?
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@Stingerbillion why the hell would I go to a hospital for a cold??? I'll go to a doctors office. why do I want to pay a larger than usual premium when I choose to stay healthy? I dont want to pay for people who smoke, eat mcdonalds all day, and are lazy freeloaders that dont pay into SHIT. Socialized healthcare just leaves longer lines and lower wages for doctors who deserve every penny. I work for my money that I CHOOSE how to spend, how about you?
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what a load of bull this is, he says they cant go back on there word if it passes our government goes back on their word all the time .
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Just to show that YOU are not only ignorant but now you are just making shit up. Canada has no such thing as a Director of the National Health System, as we have no such thing as a National Health System, that's England. Ours is individually financed and run by the provinces. For England, would love to see the link to your claim. For Germany, again, link please. Its easy to make shit up, not so easy to back it up. Thanks though. You've entertained me.
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A "pro" of HCR: the hard-working, diligent taxpayer now has the forced "pleasure" of paying for John Q. Potsmoker's cigarette induced COPD and obesity-related blood pressure / diabetes. Now, 16 year old Susie B. Slutsenwhore can have prenatal care (including pregnancy "options") for her 3rd kid and WIC handed to her by people who themselves can't have children
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How do you go back? How do you undo the things that americans like and want to keep? Simples. You simply don't tell them. You do what the right always do. You manipulate, you hide and then you fear monger and then the Tea Party turn against it and then they campaign for the "doughnut hole" par examplé to be reinstated as it will 'create jobs' or 'reduce the deficite' or some other right wing bullshit. Their doing this already with abortion access even though this is a CONSTITUTIONAL right.
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We have to stop comparing ourselves to other countries and we are completely forgetting our countries roots. America was built on a different kind of belief and that is the freedom to choose what you want to do and not let the government make the choices for you.
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Why is it that health insurance companies are by nature inherently more evil than any other kind of insurer?
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here is one idea. If anyone commits insurance fraud, first offense, throw you in prison for like 10-20 years, then when released, you will be banned from anykind of insurance, including health care. If anyone who has been banned tries to get insurance, anykind including healthcare, that person would go back to jail for another 10-20 years. Put this on every news station, and every newspaper and tell the people "This hear is your warning." One strike and you are done.
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In a nutshell when you have a lot of ppl w/o insurance getting care from the emergency room and cant pay for it the govt pays for it out of out tax dollars. But they dont pay the whole thing so the hospitals lose money so they then have to pass the charge over to ppl who have insurance. But the insurance companies make deals with the hospitals to cut their charges so they then have to pass the loss to the uninsured that can pay the bills. There are other reasons but that is a big one.
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I think with regard to healthcare especially free health care extreme caution must be exercised. The NHS in Britain requires vast sums of money to keep it going, and it is badly abused by everyone involved . If your health care is free you will be in the Doctors more often than the Doctor him/herself. Doctors , Chemists, Drug companys all make huge profits and the government must foot the bill. Unless you can pay for it by heavy taxation, it does not work. Free health care = National debth
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this is a law for socialists YOU WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!
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Some information in the bill is good but their is a whole lot that is bad.
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The only way to reform this bill and to give the USA a reasonable, affordable level of coverage without sacrificing quality of care is to implement Universal Health Care. Why should the USA pay more for the same level of coverage than other developed nations?
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This guy is ignorant. The reason private health insurance CAN be expensive is due to the high cost of health care itself...
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Everyone will be buying health insurance in 2014.
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I voted for Obama for multiple reasons. #1 being healthcare. I'm very healthy, but some of my friends, including my girlfriend, are not so lucky. If Romney won, not only would he have gutted Obamacare on day 1, he specifically said he would leave healthcare up to each state and what they feel is "right" for their citizens. Since I live in Indiana (a red state), as do most of my friends with PECs, I-- and more importantly, they-- would be FUCKED due to a lack of EQUALITY in healthcare pricing.
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@grnbbllntrck - If you are talking about Canada and their taxes that pay for their healthcare, remember that their wages are about double then in the US. Also, If a Canadian decides to get treatment in the United States, the Canadian government pays for it. Like I have said 100 times before, by the time my Grandson turns 18, I hope he has to look in a history book to find out what a private insurance company WAS!
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I'm so happy I don't live in US, you guy's really have it tough if you get sick :S.
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@srwilli4m ima love the day u get cancer and probly cuz u had a cold like 20 years ago medicare wont cover you and you WILL die
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@LasVegas1986 NO... modern freedom is still the same thing... freedom. You don't get to take away my liberties so that you can live easier.
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This guy doesnt realize that this bill is going to put all health insurance companys out of buisness. (at least the ones that average americans can afford because politician s sure as hell don't want to use the public system.) and if there are no private options and theres is only the public we will be in the same boat canada is in. And that my freinds, is a place we really dont want to go.
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I pay $200 a month for my insurance, then i have to pay $5000 out of pocket for my deductible before the insurance will pay for things, but the $250 a month that I pay does not go towards the $5000 I have to pay out of pocket first. Im only 30 years old. I also pay $30-$50 everytime I see a doctor, $200 for ER visit, $75 for ur
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People are going to be sold on the idea that all these great ideas where you can be infinitely covered by this healthcare plan are so great... But who Foots the bill for you limitless "insurance" If not me, if not my neighbor than the Federal reserve and more and more debt. Insurance inst made to just be a middle man that pays a ton of money for the rest of your life. Its there as a just in case measure. This will be disastrous. but people are sold on it so well.
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@eggplant1905 Well I'm afraid they did so just accept it. Its the law now. If you are in denial over Obamacare, move to Russia. But it is the law. It was legislated and passed. Whether it will be repealed is anybody's guess, but presently it still remains. We are talking objectively here--not hypothetically. You really have no rights. The US Government can take your rights whenever they see fit. That's not me saying this, its just an objective fact. So your stuck with Obamacare.
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YOUR ALL GOING TO GET SICK! WHY SHOULD I PAY FOR YOUR FUCKING HEALTHCARE ..
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