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The Vegetarian Myth

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Peak Moment 191: What we eat is destroying both our bodies and the planet, according to author Lierre Keith, a recovering twenty-year vegan. While she passionately opposes factory farming of...

My primary motivation for videoing this conversation with Lierre was to look at the unsustainability of monocrop agriculture (primarily for grains). Just read today that 75% of food crop species have gone extinct in the last 100 years. That's a lot of important bio-diversity we will/would need in future -- to reduce reliance on pesticides, herbicides, irrigation. I salute people who are experimenting with food forests in their region. As Lierre said, we need perennial polycultures rather than monocrop agriculture.
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+peakmoment >>> And keep the weight off without endless cardio and crazy workouts. While eating her favorite foods and living an extremely busy life as a mother of 3 >>--->>WhyaVeganDiets.blogspot.com<<--<<
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Disregard heart disease, diabetes, & tumor growth, then we can disregard veganism. Hunter-gatherers rarely had diseases of old age because they rarely lived to old age.
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+Im Yu More and more anthropological researchers are calling our ancestors scavenger gatherers for good reason.
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+Im Yu Hit the nail on the head. There is a good reason why hunter gatherers are extinct. Entire civilizations are build upon grains, fruits and vegetables.
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Vitamine D only in meat? Ever heard of sunlight???
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+Emma Webb Well that's good. Totally agree, a woman scientist has shown that it calcifies your pineal gland, stops it producing serotonin, melatonin etc. My partner and I are doing a kind of heavy metal/calcium cleanse, taking iodine and some other stuff to clear out pineal etc.
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I'll take a look, thank you for the link. A heavy metal cleanse is something I've not thought of doing, but I'll look into that too as it sounds like something I'd be interested in. Thanks
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You know, each of us is experimenting with our own bodies, and researching, to find the diet that works for us. What would happen if commenters focused on what they find works in their life, rather than discrediting others? I think we'd learn a lot more from one another about living healthier lives. 
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+ALA Freedom Ⓥ Oh get over it and stop lying to make yourself feel better. Every vegan I have ever know makes a horrid stench when they come out of the bathroom, and I doubt your not any different. And the reason vegans shit shell so bad is because there diet is unbalanced. Just keep ignoring, anatomy, biology anthropology and all of human history (including thirty thousand year old cave paintings) that clearly show humans have always eaten meat. And one thing you can't get from plants is amino acids and that explains why most of the vegans I've dealt with have single digit IQ's FYI Nobody eats rotting corpse. A corpse comes from a human, a carcase comes from an animal and it's refrigerated. It's a shame you're no where near as smart as you are attractive. 
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+ALA Freedom Ⓥ Oh, I finally get it you iam vete, FathomsanJoy  Mree what's his face, are all the same troll with multiple accounts. I should have caught on sooner with the same retarded "rotting corpses" bullshit. So who's paying you to push a vegan agenda? I'm guessing it's the meat industry by making vegans come across as single line inbreds! Good now I know who to report.
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You can definitely get vitamin A and vitamin E from plants. Also soy, leafy greens, legumes, nuts and seeds all have protein.  I'm not saying we should all go vegan but anyone can Google this information and see what she is saying is not true. So after all this "research" 5 minutes in, she is already way off... I have no intention of watching further.
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Actually it is the opposite,  NO medical professional/journal/scientist would ever claim that eating meat would make your brain bigger, But you as I see visit a lot of crackpot sites that sell crap with Miranda warning stating "This is not intended to diagnose, treat anything" Stop misusing science in order to promote your quack beliefs ;)
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I DIED 40 TIMES WATCHING THIS VIDEO
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So, I painfully watched the entire 28 minutes of this video and Lierre Kieth did not present a SINGLE counter argument to a vegan/vegetarian diet.  1. Name one nutrient that is ONLY found in meat that cannot be found in a plant-based diet. 2. Name one disease or deficiency that is ONLY found among vegans. 3. Plant protein IS digestible. Animal protein actually makes your body acidic and messes up your pH levels. 4. Did she really say vitamin A, D, and K is not found in plants? Vitamin D you get from the sun and the rest of the vitamins and minerals ARE found in plants. 5. A vegan diet has been found to prevent and sometimes reverse diabetes and cancer, not cause it. 6. The Eskimos may not have got cancer a lot, but they sure did get osteoporosis and had a very short life span. 7. How come the countries with the highest consumption of meat and dairy also have the highest rate of osteoporosis? 8. The human brain runs on glucose (sugar), NOT fat. 9. The U.S. alone could feed 800 million people with grain that livestock eat. 10. Meat has 0 fiber -- have fun being on the crapper for awhile. I love to hear Lierre Kieth (who is only an author, not a doctor or nutritionist) or ANYBODY please try to refute and these 10 points. Otherwise you meat eaters are all just talking out your ass and are just trying to finding excuses to justify your meat eating habits and the slaughter of 58 BILLION animals per year!
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+szililolabu I think you're confusing Ornish with Nathan Pritikin, who actually wasn't a vegan, but still a promoter of very low-fat eating. Ornish is actually kind of chubby.
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Ornish looks horrible in his pictures, too, pasty, dark circles under his eyes. That is, if you get pictures other than the ones on his website.
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So anyone who eats a vegan diet is either a liar or dead.  Why can't she just admit she misses bacon?  This lady is a special kind of shit.
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Think about what you just said, I'm arguing for a cause, so I'm not open minded?  I used to be a meat eater, the fact that I changed my mind proves that I can at least change my mind.
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I have nothing against you,  I think you're a good person who is just searching for the truth as well.  Please post your sources.  At least at the end of the day you can say you tried.  I'll be happy to talk to you about B12, The Omega 3 family of fatty acids, protein, zinc, etc.
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Hmmmm...........I've been vegan since birth. I'm 20 years old. I see no problems with veganism. The problem is that people do it the wrong way, eat the wrong foods, and use supplements way too much. Then when it doesn't work, they blame it on veganism. Being vegan isn't an issue as long as you eat a decent variety of foods, and you're not starving yourself. There are people who watch the documentary Earthlings, and go vegan without hesitation. They have no problems with the change in lifestyle. But there are 4 basic common-sense rules. You cannot starve yourself, you can't use supplements instead of real food, and you can't live on just oreos and soda (or the opposite, lettuce and tomatoes). You need to get some variety just as you would if you weren't vegan. It's really simple. Don't make it complicated.
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I'm so confused. There's so much conflicting information, I don't even know what to believe any more.
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+1whitemoon I can see your point, but I'm adamant that my health is fine. I'm having blood tests and most of the time I'm coming up with more than the recommended amounts of vital vitamins and minerals. I focus on my intake far more than I ever have done, so I know I'll never miss out on anything. Unfortunately, I cannot see a time where milk and dairy products will be useful to us, other than by furthering an obesity, heart disease and cancer crisis. To me, milk products are unnecessary additions to the diet and are intended only for one species - the cow. I'm not willing to wait for the human race to open its eyes. I've got to make personal changes because I do not have the space or health to risk. I have chickens, but I don't fancy the cholesterol of an egg! Plus I bloody love those chickens - I don't know how anyone could eat such funny birds!
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+1whitemoon forgot to say thanks for your concern, I appreciate it.
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+KetoBabe I am, I hardly consider myself any label, but I do eat meat...not a lot though, and no red meat at all as it just doesn't agree with my digestive system, never has. But I love fish, and turkey....oh and very rarely (as its so damn greasy) Bratwurst, but I really really like almost every type of fruit and vegetable too and eat a lot of that, more so than meat (I used to work as a chef, and am trained as such so I keep variety in our home) I am also an avid mountain bike cyclist, and was noticing very low energy days out on the trails, went to the clinic, they suggested b12, so I did, and boom, very rarely do I have a low day now.
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I also love fish.   My grandmother would actually serve us fish for breakfast with vegetables (kippers or haddock). She would also give us sardines in olive oil and lemon and salad when we came home from school. I did not grow up eating cereals and pancakes or toast. My grandmother bless her gave us real quality food.
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What a fucking liar! Iv seen her in another interview and it seems her stories change. She has so much misunderstood information, everything she says is the exact opposite of Dr. McDougall "starch solution" and she's not even a doctor. Where are her sources?
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Everyone I know who tried to be a Vegetarian got really sick and started to look bad. I was interested in what this woman was saying in the beginning but when she started blasting Capitalism, she went over into the insane mode. Give up the system that has taken people out of poverty and despair? What idiocy. I think I'll go and have a steak.
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I'm sorry but Lierre Keith seems to have a severe mental disorder, I can't force myself to listen to a mentally ill woman. Go vegan!
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I'm open minded, however when she claims grain based diets result in cancer my first thoughts are "why don't we see poor health in populations eating lots of white rice and very little animal products"?  How can these millions of people live long healthy lives? Does regular rigorous exercise mitigate the harm of a grain based diet?
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google Dr. Ellsworth Wareham. he is a 100 year old retired cardio-thoracic surgeon who has been a Vegan for more than 55 years. he is thriving at 100 and he retired at 96. it's obvious that too much meat leads to heart disease, cancer, and other chronic illnesses that plague people of highly developed countries. if anything, if you do eat meat and animal products it should be in moderation. check out my site at carlosrull dot com for more info on the Vegan diet.
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Omg! 7 min that's how long I could force myself to watch this nonsense.
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..... American school shootings. #grains   #processed   #depression
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Cholecalciferol (D3) can be obtained from certain Lichens.
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sykeo123, you've been spewing trash, disrespect and expletives for long enough. Either clean up your act or I will ban you from this channel. 
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your video is totally biased, subjective and is propaganda
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There is about twice as more scientific researches that are positive about plant based food. And, sure, lady be free to eat wat you like. I will keep to my plant based food. I lost all health problems i had.  Been a raw vegan for more than ten years, twenty years vegetarian, and now again vegan. I'm as strong as a lion. have a great body mass, train everyday and, I tell you ,lady,, 18 percent of all gas emissions are caused by meat industry. cows produce liters of methan gas a day, and we are destroying the Amazone forest for meat. Check this out, if you do not believe in it  " meat the truth"  lady!  https://youtu.be/Z0xO8RiRffM
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Stopped watching the presentation at the Peakmoment propaganda global warming drama graph.  If you need to add lies and/or drama to persuade people to join your cause then it is not worthy of my time.
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This is pure disinformation. I mean, you've just got to look at Abkhasia tribe. They lived on a plant-based diet and lived until ages of 140 and more. Grains aren't grown for human consumption, either - they're grown for livestock. The average dairy cow takes 115l of water per day. Dairy and meat cattle are the largest contributors towards global warming because of methane release. So, you can't blame vegans for eating all the grain. Even so, there aren't enough vegans to take up that much bloody grain growing space fgs.  Humans are not built for eating meat or dairy. In the West we have adapted to consume it without vomiting or diarrhea. That does not mean it is digestible, however. In fact, because of casein and lactose we are now becoming more obese. Heart disease, diabetes, osteoporosis, high blood pressure, cholesterol and cancer are prevalent in the West. Even doctors admit that these are linked! You just have to do your research.  We have long intestines, unlike the feline family or reptiles. This suggests that meat is not easily digested. It gets stuck and rots away inside of us. Something which seems so gross. You look at a raw steak - does it look attractive? Look at a vegetables - does it look attractive? We are wired to be excited by colour for a reason! Hunting wasted energy for our ancestors. Foraging not so much. It wouldn't have been economical to hunt often. Anthropological evidence suggests that the later homo sapien would only have eaten meat once a month, at least. Think about our apparent ancestor - the Chimp. Do they eat meat? They eat insects, but not meat!  There is nothing that you cannot get from plants. Now go watch "Udderly Amazing" by Walter Veith. Educate yourselves!!
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Btw the Abkhasia tribe consume lots of dairy so they are not vegan either.
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+mastersnet18 I really cannot be bothered with silly arguments at times (today is one of those times) so I'll reply but will probably ignore any notifications herein.  a) There have been vegan tribes, in fact tribes with record-breaking longevity statistics are HCLF vegan.  b) Pasteurised milk or otherwise, it's still a cows breast milk intended to double the weight of a calf in a few days. You wanna double your weight? Continue drinking the pus.  c) Milk, whether pasteurised or otherwise, is filled with pus. You are what you eat!  d) Lactose and casein are different things - one is sugar, the other is a protein. A lot of people are not able to tolerate casein. The body really stuggles to break this protein down. It secretes casein in all ways possible - your skin (hnce why dairy elimination often cures acne), your eyes, etc.  e) Meat and dairy ROTS, yes rots, in your gut. If you think that;s healthy then cool.  f) I don;t eat insects on purpose. I eat them by accident - you do too probably.  g) Try drinking your mum's breast milk. Then you'll know whether you can digest lactose. What? Is that weird? Only as weird as drinking cows breast milk!! I like my food live. I like to maintain a state of alkalinity as cancer thrives in an acidic environment (meat and dairy is acidic - meat highly, dairy mid-acidity). If you want to eat that stuff fine. But I've done a fuck ton of research and the thought of consuming animal products now makes me feel physically sick.  DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR: Watch Udderly Amazing by Walter Veith and his follow up on what you should eat. It'll take about 3 hours, but it'll save you from some hideous diseases. You don't have to believe me but just watch it, if you give a shit about yourself. 
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So. Much. False. Information.
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+Dee Smith Honestly, what is supposed to be false?
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+Dee Smith Forks over Knives. Do yourself a favour and watch it.
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The main theory for brain evolution it was the discovery of fire and cooking food also there is another one which talks about the stimulus given by the migratory movements of some tribes. There are tribes that their food is starch based and they don't have cancers or other chronic conditions.  Protein also induces insulin production it isn't only carbs, the flaws in her arguments are amazing...and it is not only insulin that is needed for cancer grow it is a lot of other factors. The flaws on her speech are staggering, cherry picking studies...
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possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever watched! you've only got to research some of her so called facts to find out she's talking shit!
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the grain is not the enemy. process foods and too much intake leading to obesity plagues modernized nations that have an abundance of food. history shows us that civilizations have thrived on a staple of bread or rice.
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+Carlos Rull Half truth. Its an abundance of food that provides a bigger population. that's why all societies eventually adopted farming. Numbers are a significant advantage.
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Everything was ok until patriarchy came in. I'm not a vegan myself, so I was just curious what she had to say, but when you start blaming only half the human population for the situation we are currently living in, I see a problem.
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What was the average life expectancy in hunter-gather societies before contact with Western food?
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I've read that if they did not die in childbirth or from accidents, hunter-gatherers live as long as we now do -- into their 70s.
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Cows "are long and tall and strong" yet they eat no meat.
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+AmandaNerdBot I know.. I never claimed anything else......
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(cont.) It's not about veggies vs meat. It' s about foods (whether animals or veggies or grains) from your culture and your geographic area, prepared in traditional ways. These methods contain wisdom. We've lost lots of that knowledge in the "west".
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How do rabbits cope as they are not ruminants? they eat grass! they cope really well :) why are people getting fatter? I must say it would be nice to see some peer reviewed studies to back up her statements.
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she's so delusional, it's actually endearing
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yes. yes to restoring praries, and raising cattle on naturally growing grass. no to everything else. - "there's nothing we can do to feed 7 bilion people" this silly claim again.. as if over-population will make us all starve soon. yet here we are at 2015 and 7 billion people are doing fine. - "the best way to control birth rate is to teach a girl to read" why do we need to control it again? I swear some people think humanity is a disease that must be cured. currently, a 'western' family has 1.5 kids on average. so 2 people give birth to 1.5 people every genration. you don't have to be a math genius to see this leads to extinction of the human race. if I had to pick, I'd rather be illiterate than go extinct, thank you. and generally, to all you vegeterians: eskimos live on NOTHING but meat/fish. and it works for them, somehow. they don't have more cancer and heart diseases than other nations. maybe the problem is the hormones and antibiotics in our meat, and not the meat itself. or maybe fish make excelent food. anyway, it's something to think about.
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The leading cause of death in farm country is suicide?  This bitch is nuts.  I live on a farm, have for years, and I know first hand  myself and all my neighbors are making a fortune on land and crops. Crop land purchased in 1998 at $650.00 per acre is now selling for over $7500.00.  Have you purchased beef in the last two years, we are not giving it away out here.  O' ya and our taxes are all subsidized, Try these numbers, 160 acres Iowa farm land - total taxes per year $1600.00 - I'll let you in on a little secret, the only way to lose money farming is if your mail box is stolen, then we can't get the Government checks, which are paid by you city folks.  What's for dinner?  BEEF!
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That's because we are designed to eat fruit not grains or meat.
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+George LFC nah im too lazy for that i got better things to do with my time
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I already knew that farming was a new technology. We have only been doing it for 10k years. I also know that all the plant food produce on farms have been modified. I use to give the example of seedless grapes and seedless bananas. Nothing about what we eat is good anymore. I guess the good thing is in a million years it probably won't matter. I'm sure our spices will be gone and the planet will recover by then. I am not worried about over population. Most people live in cities and the planet is not overpopulated with people. Capitalism and patriarchy? Nah. Capitalism never existed it was just an idea we only have governments. Corporate monopolies exist because of governments subsidies. Poor people have a lot of children because of governments subsidies. Farmers can compete because of governments subsidies. The underlining problem is government and the theft that goes on due to subsidies. Everyone holding out their hands asking for handouts and favors for their cause at the expense and burdening others. Boils down to violence in my eyes.
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I've been a Vegan for 21 years, still going strong, as are all of my Vegan friends, who started at a similar time.
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reduce meat eating as much as possible. i do not hate you and do nout think i know wat you should eat, but... watch this... https://youtu.be/R3edPiWcuaM
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Why argue about it? Is there statistics available that show what the healthiest and longest-living caucasians eat? Is there a clear answer in the first place? I think that it really doesn't matter what you eat, as long as you don't let yourself get overweight and make sure you get all necessary micro (vitamins etc.) and macro (proteins etc.) nutrients. And still there are the genes. I just watched a video about an otherwise healthy and slim, athletic young man who got ALS (a motoneuron disease that paralyses and kills you in 2-5 years). You can't eat yourself healthy! Just don't get overweight, don't smoke and don't drink alcohol too much.
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4146 people are faced with ''cognitive dissonance'', can't accept facts and reality over the vegetarian myth and that veganism/vegeterianism is not at all good for everyone !
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Why not retitle this, the dangers of monocrop agriculture?  "The Vegetarian Myth" is great for click bait, but it just makes you look uninformed about the Vegetarian/Vegan diet.  Or even better, keep it as it is, and ask Lierre Keith to send you published articles supporting her statements in the video.
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I recommend Dr John McDougall's book The Starch Solution. This video is totally wrong information, Dr McDougall proves her wrong through all the research in his book.
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Her confidence in what happened 2 to 4 million years ago his hilarious
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+Rob Smith Well we weren't vegan 2 to 4 million years ago, that's for sure...
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Edit: I appreciate you relaying this information by hosting this conversation. How could this woman be so intelligent and yet be a Feminist? It's astounding. Nobody controls their reproduction with the exception of recent generations. Anyone who isn't ideologically driven who studies history honestly can see this. I bet Lierre Kieth would see this if she cared for the perception and treatment of men as much as she cared for the ecosphere - but she doesn't. And neither does anybody else. Everyone controls their reproduction today, and we still have our population problem outside of the suicidal middle class - for Patriarchy to still exist we have to take a step into la la land where giests float about forcing people to do things in the name of one gender or race or another. In which case, I coin Matriarchy Theory. Women don't give a fuck about men, and because of that, men don't give a fuck about men either - so nobody gives a fuck about men. Thus we have Patriarchy......... derr... I can talk shit as well, just like the Middle Class white women of the Western world.
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What?? Clear 2 acres of land and the water table will drop, huh?? Obviously, lacking some education on how the water table works Lierre, deep rooted trees keep the water table down, when you cut down deep rooted trees the water table rises
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Vitamins you listed as not possible to get from plants.  Vitamin E: almonds, seeds, swiss chard, spinach, kale, avocado, broccoli, parsley, olives Vitamin A: sweet potatoes, carrots, leafy greens, squash, bell peppers, tropical fruits.  Vitamin D: THE SUN. Mushrooms Vitamin K2: Natto, fermented foods "They do not exist in plant foods. You will die without them."
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Outstanding in every way. Thank you for posting this. (shared far and wide)
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Wow, I listened thinking there would be some decent information here even watching as a vegan but almost every single nutrition "fact" Keith lists is not just off but flat out wrong. It's almost more odd than frustrating. It's like made up stuff coming out of nowhere. Then all of the ableist comments about the mental capacity of people who eat vegan diets, this shit is so far behind from radical or educational she thinks she's first.
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Noone has the right to decide how the rest of us are to live. which is essentially the totalitarian green left. Keith is over-pessimistic, the world will adjust itself. And global gorming ?? puleasse... no warming in 18 years now - the theory is bunk.  Capitalism is nothing but agreegate decsions and free trade. It becomes ill when it is linked to government subsisides (artificial signals) - and the kind of cronyism seen under Obama - bailing out and cosying up to big business at the expense of small business. 
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I started eating a vegetarian/vegan diet about 1 1/2 week ago. I say vegetarian/vegan because I eat qourn and noodles that contain egg. I've lost abt. 6,6 pounds! It's astonishing... I haven't been able to loose this much on any other diet, ever...
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Lierre Keith could not be more wrong.  Animal products are enormously destructive to health.  See nutritionfacts.org for the science.  Lierre Keith is not a scientist.  She makes many errors in her arguments.  Homo Sapiens is the only primate who is not a vegetarian.  We have a vegetarian digestive system.  Everyone should be vegan for four reasons:  (1) Health.  Vegans are healthier and live longer than carnivores.  You avoid an enormous number of fatal diseases with a Vegan diet such as strokes, heart attacks, cancer, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, Alzheimer's, etc., etc. (2)  Global warming.  Those vast herds of livestock around the world generate more greenhouse gases than even motor vehicles. (3)  Overpopulation.  It takes 8 times as much land raising the same amount of food through livestock compared to plants.  With 45,000 people dying every day from starvation and malnutrition, eating meat is indefensible.  And (4)  Murdering animals for food is obviously immoral and barbaric.  Have you no compassion ?
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+Fred Brown i dont give a shit about monkeys but if you wanna be a dumb monkey primate then go ahead idiot
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+Dee Smith Gorillas amd chimpanzees are classified as vegetarians although chimpanzees have been observed to eat small animals on occasion. As to health claims, take a look at nutritionfacts.org.  Dr. Greger presents all the science.  Science, not pseudo-science, not opinion. 
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Great stuff although corn prices have doubled in the past three years.  If you've ever seen CAFOs and then are willing to eat from what they produce, you might as well drink from a bottle with a skull and crossbones.  And calling for just feminist principles is one-sided too because we need the sacred masculinity to balance.  Overly feminist views (like total vegetarianism regardless of what Lierre writes) are just as out of balance as dominator masculine.  It's a pendulum that we are constantly trying to keep in balance.  
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It's only a pendulum when the mind is in dialectic logic.
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What a brilliant display of manipulation and deceit! This is precisely what manipulators do. They distort every possible angle by using arguments taken directly from the oppositions. We say people have fear, reluctance, and an unwillingness to accept new information about veganism because they're too strongly identified with their current diet, and she turns that same flaw around and tries to pin it on us. We say humans can't digest meat or break down the protein properly based on the length of our intestines and because we lack the enzymes to do so, and that's exactly what she says about eating plant foods. We say eating meat is linked to cancer. She says eating fruit is linked to cancer because of the sugar, and then goes on to claim that the sugar industry is suppressing information and pushing fruit on us because it has an evil plan to make money at our expense, which, again, is exactly what we say about the meat industry. We say fruits and veggies are nutrient dense foods, and she says animal fat is 100x more nutrient dense than any other food and helps fuel the brain and, somehow, a lack of fat can actually lead to violence, suicide, and mental instability. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't the consumption animal flesh now being used to explain violence, suicide, and mental instability within our society? She also claims to use epidemiological studies, which is what vegans use when they reference books like "The China Study" to account for higher rates of osteoporosis and other chronic disease among populations on certain diets. Her solution to our food crisis is to teach women to read because it will slow population growth, which is fine, I guess. Of course human population is an issue, but I think it's more of a quality issue than it is quantity. If you've got a society of unconscious, selfish consumers who use up way more resources than they need, it wont matter if the population is at 7 billion or 7 million. And when viewed through the lens of our current capitalistic paradigm, and if we associate plant-based eating with the worst form of agriculture in the world (mono-cropping), I'd have to agree that feeding everyone seems impossible and highly destructive to the environment, but is mono-cropping really what vegan are all about? And might there be some revolutionary breakthroughs in the way we grow food once we start demanding it with out wallets? In a world of 7 billion, efficiency is key, and the one thing we can be sure of is that nothing is more inefficient than filtering nutrients through the bodies of other animals. At least she agreed that factory farming needs to end, but I don't know how she thinks we're going to abolish it as long as people are still supporting it, and if she is suggesting we encourage a shift towards grass fed beef, I don't know how she thinks we're going to come up with the land to support it. She did mention the need for a massive nuclear disaster to help save the planet, which really only makes sense if she's acting as a spokesperson for some Hitler-like, rich elite that wants to create a mass human depopulation or die-off and needs to get people on board. I'm not saying that's what she is, but it would certainly answer a lot of my questions.
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Yes, you can get all those vitamins from plants...just not B12.
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+52lovelight Portobello mushrooms has B12, with some amount of fortified foods like almond milk and soy milk you can get all the B12 you need
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Yes, it is in vegan fortified foods but 92% of vegans are VERY deficient, maybe it would be more responsible to let vegans know that they should get injections, as this diet is NOT what humans have evolved to eat over millions of years. "Vitamin B-12 status, particularly holotranscobalamin II and methylmalonic acid concentrations, and hyperhomocysteinemia in vegetarians. From the Central Laboratory, Department of Clinical Chemistry, Saarland University Hospital, Homburg, Germany.  Abstract Background: Vegetarians have a lower intake of vitamin B-12 than do omnivores. Early and reliable diagnosis of vitamin B-12 deficiency is very important. Objective: The objective was to investigate vitamin B-12 status in vegetarians and nonvegetarians. Design: The study cohort included 66 lactovegetarians or lactoovovegetarians (LV-LOV group), 29 vegans, and 79 omnivores. Total vitamin B-12, methylmalonic acid, holotranscobalamin II, and total homocysteine concentrations were assayed in serum. Results: Of the 3 groups, the vegans had the lowest vitamin B-12 status. In subjects who did not consume vitamins, low holotranscobalamin II (< 35 pmol/L) was found in 11% of the omnivores, 77% of the LV-LOV group, and 92% of the vegans. Elevated methylmalonic acid (> 271 nmol/L) was found in 5% of the omnivores, 68% of the LV-LOV group, and 83% of the vegans. Hyperhomocysteinemia (> 12 μmol/L) was present in 16% of the omnivores, 38% of the LV-LOV group, and 67% of the vegans. The correlation between holotranscobalamin II and vitamin B-12 was weak in the low serum vitamin B-12 range (r = 0.403) and strong in the high serum vitamin B-12 range (r = 0.769). Holotranscobalamin II concentration was the main determinant of total homocysteine concentration in the vegetarians (β = −0.237, P < 0.001). Vitamin B-12 deficiency led to hyperhomocysteinemia that was not probable in the upper folate range (> 42.0 nmol/L). Conclusions: Vegan subjects and, to a lesser degree, subjects in the LV-LOV group had metabolic features indicating vitamin B-12 deficiency that led to a substantial increase in total homocysteine concentrations. Vitamin B-12 status should be monitored in vegetarians. Health aspects of vegetarianism should be considered in the light of possible damaging effects arising from vitamin B-12 deficiency and hyperhomocysteinemia." +Vegan Baptista http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/1/131.long
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This is a very important interview.  Thank you for sharing this!
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R. Giskard has been asking for an idealized vegan menu. I'm curious about the same. Not down to the portion sizes, but just a sense of what foods can be included in a vegan diet. I've been reading about the downside of many foods which, if eliminated, make for a small set of choices for a vegan. (In addition to all processed foods, I'm thinking of gluten, fructose, vegetable (seed) oils, and unfermented soy).
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+PutuPup Indeed, 1% of the population has Celiac disease.  Another 1 or 2% might have gluten sensitivity or a wheat allergy.  For the rest of us, seitan is fine.  And those with Celiac disease or gluten sensitivity could try refried beans, fried tempeh, homefries, or other fried food loaded with fat. 
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+Clyde Rembrandt Love refried beans and also love Indian spicy lentils.
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first radical feminist i've liked in a while! Nice job.
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1) Grains need to be at least soaked or preferably sprouted for optimum nutrition. 2) Many vegetable sources are HIGHER in nutrients including trace minerals than meat. 3) Hunter gatherers did not live as long as we do to die of degenerative diseases from eating meat 4) Hunter gatherers were not exposed to environmental, chemical and biological carcinogenic toxicity as we are 5) Juicing, grating and sprouting eases digestion and counteracts the negative properties of many grains 6) We cannot digest meat properly which is why it takes longer to pass through and putrifies in the process 7) There are more health complications from OVER consumption of animal products which depletes calcium and acidifies our system 8) Get over the high sugar in fruit concern. A wholefood and raw diet should be so much more complex than that. 9) Vegetable sources are a much better source of calcium as they also contain boron which aids the utelisation and absorbtion of calcium 10) What you are ACTUALLY suggesting is killing people is high sugar refined carb diets. Newsflash: Most vegans DO NOT live on cheerios, white bread and banana splits.. 11) Also, vegan diets are NOT the same as a low fat diet 12) There are healthier, more primitive grains than just corn and wheat.. 13) Your issues with agriculture cincern the massive agro companies like Monsanto 14) Desertification in many areas of the world are caused by unsustainable pastoral farming. Check out John D Lui's Green Gold documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBLZmwlPa8A 15) Vitamin K is found in sufficient quantities in dark, leafy veg without the heart disease risk with most farmed meats Eating organ meats from overweight, selectively bred animals fed various hormones under stress will cause you to absorb all the toxins of their liver and kidneys. I somehow think ancient hunter gatherers of the mesolithic (the period actually aluded to by the diet, if it was truly paleo we would be ordering Wooly Mammoth Meat from our friendly local butchers ;-) didn't have that issue, or the lack of land to hunt for raise organic, free range meat that EVERYBODY could have access to because MONEY then wasn't an issue
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Name me one that sits on the behind eating junk food and intensively reared meat trolling people on youtube? Hardly the stuff of either ontogenic or phylogenetic vigour.. if only cyber trolls would face the same risk of extinction instead the people their lifestyles threaten.. oh wait, they do!
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+Alexandra Aerlinn Seems like the only problem with meat you have is the meat that is not properly raised. You said vegans don't like on sugar and refined carbs, well most people who cared about their health know what meat to buy, and what meat to stay away from.
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Well we still manage to fill up the planet more than ever and we live longer. What we need is a good fucking plague.
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oh dr .... sorry your not a dr , going on a plant based diet removed my heart problem , so this is a guess work , in other words bs , full of disinformation , whos paying you dangerous advice ,
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She is spot on about the factory farming, but dead wrong about a Vegan diet.  A whole food plant based diet is the healthiest diets.  I am living proof.  Dr. Max Gerson and his daughter Charlotte have helped thousands of people cure themselves of cancer on a Vegan diet.  Now if that does not prove it for you, I hope you do not mind being sick.
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she's right re fat is necessary, as is meat. rejoins the "paleo diet".  However - "patriarchy and capitalism ?" please.... lets have global communism run by man-hating women... or not.  Camille Paglia famously said "if it wasnt for men, women would still be living in grass huts".  And if it wasnt for men and capitalism, we wouldn't have the internet, global travel, cat scans etc, which Keith all uses. 
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The archeological record does not show that human beings exclusively ate meat - ever. Human beings have always been hunter gatherers. Gathering seeds, roots, leaves, fruits and eating meat. While the argument that human beings were not evolutionarily vegetarian exclusively is valid but completely false that we are meant to be or historically are exclusively carnivores like lions, wolves etc. We have the same design as omnimores.
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SHE IS COMPLETELY RIGHT. BEST VIDEO EVER. SORRY YOU HATERS CAN'T UNDERSTAND LOGIC AND FACTS!
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Lierre ignores the immense variety of foods that are plant or fungus-based: mushrooms, seeds, nuts, an incredible number of fruits, leaves,(kale, spinach, mustard, collard...)  stalks,(celery...) stems, roots,(potatoes, sweet potatoes, beans carrots, beets...). She apparently lived on wheat, milk, & eggs. No wonder she wasn't well.
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This is wrong "She apparently lived on wheat, milk, & eggs. No wonder she wasn't well."
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+Dee Smith I was responding to Lierre's over-simplification of what a vegan diet is. Turn-about's fair-play.There's much more evidence to support a vegan diet than one woman's claims against it. Kempner's ("Duke") rice diet was probably the  longest running project, (70 years), & largest sample of dramatic benefits from  a vegan diet: weight loss, reversed heart disease, kidney disease, blood pressure, stroke symptoms, diabetes & related diseases such as diabetic retinopathy, and control of other diseases such as Crohn's.    Ok, I don't  _know_ about the wheat, but Lierre herself  refers to the milk & eggs.
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She's so off from pretty much her first sentence...We're not hunters. We're hunter-gatherers. If we were hunters we'd have teeth like a dog. We have more flat teeth than pointy teeth. We ate more vegetables, fruits and nuts than meat... Not to mention the fact that monks in asia have been vegan for at least over 3000 yrs and they're all ok... There is more Vitamin E in Spinach than in fish... This woman is spreading so many lies its not even funny. It's quite dangerous actually.
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+David Zaga "In our comprehensive analysis of 229 hunter-gatherer diets, my research group and I showed beyond question that no historically studied foragers were vegetarians.26 In fact, whenever and wherever animal foods were available they were always preferred over plant foods.26 The chart to the left shows the overwhelming preference for animal foods in all 229 hunter-gatherer societies that we studied. Notice that not a single foraging society fell into the (0 – 5%) animal subsistence category. Most (73%) of the 229 hunter-gatherers consumed 46% or more of their daily energy as animal food.26 The compelling reason for their preference of animal foods over plant foods was because hunter-gatherers got more bang (food calories) for the buck (their energy expended to obtain the food), as verified by optimal foraging theory. Human preference and appetite for meat, marrow and animal food has an incredibly long history in our ancestral line.18, 33 Fossils of butchered animals with stone tool-cut marks on their bones were discovered in Africa dating back 2.5 million years.33 These definitive “smoking guns” in the archaeological record leave little doubt that all human species ate animal foods from the very get-go of our existence. Scientists are able to determine the relative percentage of plant and animal food in extinct human (hominid) species by analyzing elements called isotopes within their fossilized bones.10, 104, 105 Every single hominid skeleton examined since the emergence of our own genus (Homo) 2.5 million years ago show an isotopic signature characteristic of meat based diets.10, 83, 104, 105, 124 Further, if we compare our biochemical and anatomical machinery to cats, who are absolute carnivores, we both share evolutionary enzyme pathways characteristic of processing lots of meat.27 If you are interested in these details, I have written about them in my debate with the noted vegetarian, Dr. T. Colin Campbell, author of The China Study.27Download the Full Debate Here If we accept the idea that vegetarianism represents an ideal human diet, then this manner of eating must be part of a much larger or ultimate mechanism governing human biology. What I’m getting at is the question of “Why?” Why would a vegetarian diet, or for that matter, any diet represent an optimal nutritional road map for our species? Any unified theory of human nutrition is a detective story in which scientists attempt to reveal or uncover biological systems that have been designed by, and put into place by evolution through natural selection. Accordingly, hypotheses regarding what we should and shouldn’t eat must be consistent with the system and ancient environments that engineered our current genes. If we are to buy into vegetarianism, then the system, evolution via natural selection, which shaped our present genome necessarily had to be conditioned over eons by a plant based, vegetarian diet. Otherwise, there is no rationale alternative hypothesis to explain why humans would “prosper and thrive” on vegetarian diets. As I have extensively pointed out,26, 27 there is no credible fossil, archeological, anthropological or biochemical evidence to show that any hunter-gatherers or pre-agricultural humans ever consumed all plant based diets. This information should be your first clue that there just may be some problems with vegetarian dietary recommendations created by humans for humans. What is that expression? “We are all human, we all make mistakes.” Let us not depend upon human frailties for dietary advice, but rather let us fall back on the wisdom of the system, again, evolution via natural selection, that designed the diet to which we are genetically adapted." http://thepaleodiet.com/vegetarian-vegan-diets-nutritional-disasters-part-1/
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+Dee Smith so, as I said you would, you didn't answer my question and deflected with some non-sequiter. BUT I find some of the points in this exerpt VERY interesting. Using YOUR own proof I see more of an argument AGAINST meat eating than for it. You posted that "In fact, whenever and wherever animal foods were available they were always preferred over plant foods.26 The chart to the left shows the overwhelming preference for animal foods in all 229 hunter-gatherer societies that we studied." Which means that a vegan diet has NEVER been tried right? So once again proof that your claim that veganism causes infertility is bunko(via your own post/proof even though I've already conceded the point TWICE before this time). Furthermore, if any civilization has ever had infertility problems, there is a direct correlation between fertility and their eating habits which include meat. Notice I didn't say causation, BUT correlation. Something you don't even have between fertility and veganism. Furthermore, "Every single hominid skeleton examined since the emergence of our own genus (Homo) 2.5 million years ago show an isotopic signature characteristic of meat based diets." Which actually lends credence to the idea that a meat based diet isn't very good for you. I mean, if EVERY SINGLE hominid had a meat based diet and all but ONE has survived, that's not a very good track record for meat eating in general is it? Only one meat eating hominid has survived out of the 229 societies studied??? ouch. Not much of a smoking gun huh. But once again, you will ignore my question as to where your proof that a vegan diet causes infertility comes from. You make outlandish claims and have nothing to back it up. It's as if i asked you to show me what a blue house looks like and you keep pointing to a pink one... Put up or shut up. But why do I have a weird feeling you're going to do neither.
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Nonsensical arguments, her points have no scientific basis and contradict epidemiological data. Meat eaters have all the ill health problems that vegans do only more so. What has grains got to do with a vegan diet? meta eaters eat more grains and as a former meat eater for 46 years I know this. My brother eats half a loaf of bread a day but he is a meat eater. I am a vegan of 21 years so how come if we cant get all these nutrients from plants am I still alive? This woman doesn't even look healthy.
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I just have to get this out sorry (not sorry) but she is talking about justice and environmentalism when she's eating meat and paying people to kill the animals for that... And with that contributing to the cutting down of the rainforest and the 'stealing form the poor'... wtf?
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+roos staals Are you vegan? If so you are biased against her, through your acceptance of vegan propaganda..
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Being a vegan doesn't mean that I am not open minded, so what do you mean? You've obviously got your opinions figured out...
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I think veganism can be healthy, however... I hear so much quackery out of vegans, if I was to go vegan i don't think I could be friends with these intellectually dishonest quack vegans who claim the mongols where vegan or the stupid idea that humans were vegan in prehistoric times, among other BS they spew. Don't get me started on greenpeace or PETA... However, this lady is dishonest. Meat is not a necessity in any diet. You just have to spend all day planning meals yo avoid nutrional deficiencies or take supplements. Use your logic and reason, both sides.
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(+Mr. Vegan the only reason humans are able to digest meat is through cooking meat. Without cooking, there is no way humans can digest meat. The ONLY reason humans are omnivores is through the invention of fire and cooking. That's a fact. Try digesting a raw pork stake. You can't because your digestion system was not designed to digest raw meat. The digestion system of true omnivores and carnivores (who were intended by nature to eat meat) is short and very acidic in order to quickly digest meat before it decays in their bowls. The human digestion system is long and not very acidic, best designed for digesting plant matter. True omnivores like bears can digest raw meat. Humans can't. Therefore humans aren't true omnivores. Even cows and goats (herbivores) can digest meat if you gave them cooked meat. Doesn't mean they are designed to eat meat. Human beings are inadequately designed for eating meat, and only cooking allowed us to eat meat. That being said, human beings are only capable of digesting cooked meat. So can we eat meat? Yes. Do we need to eat meat to stay healthy? No, that's the biggest myth most people believe in. Is eating meat unhealthy? Not necessarily. Does eating meat have health benefits? Not really  because we can get all of the essential vitamins and minerals for good health from a vegan diet. Then why do we eat meat? Because it tastes good and we have been conditioned from childhood to like the taste. While I have nothing against people who eat meat, I acknowledge the fact that it is definitely possible to have a healthy diet without eating meat. I also acknowledge the fact that humans are not anatomically designed for eating meat. Just because you can digest meat doesn't mean you need to eat meat to stay healthy. Some animals NEED to eat meat to stay healthy. These animals are called carnivores. Tigers, sharks, snakes and Komodo Dragons NEED to eat meat to stay healthy. What the woman in the video is saying is debunked myth. Humans do not NEED to ingest animal protein to stay healthy. We can get all of our essential nutrients and vitamins from plant matter.) Full ramblings of a vegan quack.
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+Jon Engel agreed that was rather mindless and rambling in most parts
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Yawn.... People indeed cannot "digest cellulose". However, those following complete balanced whole plant based low sugar low fat regimen possess gut bacteria that can - which in turn releases significant phytonutrients. See Juicing Removes More Than Just Fiber at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6tyu1Df1d4 And the list goes on and on and on and on..... So much for yet more "feeling" based BS at the expense of objective scientific based research such as conducted by folks such as C. Esselstyn, T. Colin Campbell & J. McDougall and the research summaries at nutritionFacts.org. But hey, she IS in tune with her feelings - even if she is radically at odds with the world which drives the poor little lost gurl and her continuing search for a socio-politico-religio make it up as you go feeling based philosophy ranging from a feeling based "veganism" to her adoption of "radical feminism". But then she has a few more issues considering just how at odds she is with all aspects of the world as it is. So much angst and pathos and so little objective vetted scientific fact.
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This woman is so dumb, even the kitchen is too complicated for her.
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O.K, but how about Misogynist or sexist, re your comment above..
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+Dee Smith I'm also mnot a misogynist or sexist. Like I said, I made that comment about Hamilton because he attacked a Chines WOMAN. BUT there is always an exception. This woman is talking so much bullshit, it's not funny anymore. If you know a little bit about food than you know that what she is saying is bullshit.
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Did anyone think that maybe the reason it was hard to stay healthy in the past as a vegetarian was because if their food source was ruined by drought or whatever and that they had to go without? or that some foods with high calorie intake where not around? Or my favorite do you ever consider that in the past we didn't know about calories and what vitamins we needed to consume to stay healthy they also probably didn't know what vegetables to eat to get calcium and protein because they didn't know what it was. They probably ate what was available in the quantities available. And the whole thing about bad teeth? Really? There was no toothbrushes back then. People who ate lot of fruit consumes a lot of sugar which without being removed rotted there teeth
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+Bookhardtsbooks You're missing the point: the human genes are programmed to live on a hunter-gatherer diet; yes, that includes HUNTING. Do you think other carnivores and omnivores will just magically become healthier if we civilized them and fed them vegan diets?
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Just stupid. Vegan is not about just eating grains. www.nutritionfacts.org  and www.pcrm.org   and eating animal products is completely unsustainable in today's world, unfathomably cruel. What she is saying is not 'critical' it is just ridiculous. also look at www.cowspiracy.com  -  ALL elements of nutrition are unquestionably provided by a vegan diet. Our brain did NOT evolve from eating animals. Plants provide all energy, and are the original source of energy, that's where the animal's people eat get their energy from. And yes, hunter-gatherers DID have diseases and their average lifespan was maybe 30-40 years. Many others have been vegan for 20, 40 years and more and are as healthy as possible. You are doing a great disservice by posting this video.
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+Nancy P. B12 really? DHA? how irresponsible of you to promote this lie. It's you who is doing the great disservice...
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+Dee Smith I have a Master's degree in Health Science and an extensive knowledge of nutrition. B12 is produced by bacteria that live in soil, it is not a 'natural' part of animal products. Normally, animals ingest the bacteria when they graze. Factory farm animals, which comprise 95-99% of all farmed animals, must be supplemented as they are fed grain (and other 'stuff) and no longer graze as they were meant to. More about B-12: http://nutritionfacts.org/?s=vitamin+b12 -and- DHA info here: http://nutritionfacts.org/video/plant-based-omega-3-supplements-2/ Please understand there are many hideous aspects to turning animals into commodities for food; there is no way to make an innocent sentient being into food without exploitation and cruelty. -and- Animal agriculture is responsible for over half of all environmental destruction. I provided a few excellent links above. Please review for your own benefit. Vegan is the most responsible lifestyle for many reasons.
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Not impressed with the information in this video - I will happily share it with my vegan friends because if they decide to look further I believe they will find that the arguments just don't stand up to scrutiny.
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Love this although this should be called the vegan myth.
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After 30 years being a vegetarian I still like what she is saying. We need to change what we do...factory farming has got to stop. Thank you for radical thinking. 
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1. You can't get Vitamin D,A, K2 from plants. OK, so tell me why the longest living humans on Earth follow a 98% vegan diet!! Seriously -- look it up yourself. 2. Sure, humans were hunters millions of years ago. But guess what? Do you ever wonder why it's called HUNTER-GATHERER SOCIETY???? (KEYWORD: GATHERER) Humans are descendent from apes. Apes ate vegetables too. I'm sorry, but I have stopped watching by 5:33 because none of what this woman is preaching is true! It's complete bogus. Meat places more risk on the planet than plants ever could. 1. Cows release methane which is 25-100 times more detrimental than carbon emissions. 2. Plants absorb carbon dioxide and clean the air. 3. Cows require tons and tons of water. 1 pound of beef = 2500 gallons of water, and you're going to tell me that eating a plant based diet is bad for the environment?  THIS WOMAN IS CRAZY!!!
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I just Googled vitamin A and there is a ton of plant foods containing it, where does she get her information??
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+ImmortalCreature Soy is really bad for you, wheat too.
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To al Vegans. Do not let this women go unchallenged.
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"DR. CAMPBELL: And I’m not really talking about a vegan diet, I must say. In fact, I really don’t use that word. I mean, I know a lot of the folks that listen to me here are they classify themselves as vegans, if you will, but which is fine. The problem is that, I don’t talk about vegan diets and vegetarian diets because about 90% of all vegetarians are still consuming dairy, and occasionally fish and eggs and things like that. And vegans are closer to, let’s say, being a more complete change. But unfortunately vegans are chose their lifestyle for good and sufficient reasons, basically of an ideological nature. But unfortunately too many of these aren’t aware that what they really should be doing is using whole food, plant based foods, without adding back the oil and salt and sugar and fat. And that’s unfortunately what we’ll find with too many vegans. So their nutrient composition of their diet is not nearly as good as it could be." "DR. CAMPBELL: Sure, that’s right. But it is an important point, and the reason it’s important is because in science, to the extent that research has been done on so called “vegan” populations, unfortunately, the people they’re studying are people, too many of them, are not doing exactly the right thing, so we don’t get the kind of results that I know we can get as a result." http://www.ourhenhouse.org/TColinCampbellEpisode192.pdf
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I'm about half way through and probly not gonna watch the whole thing, but... I don't understand. Most people today eat lots of meat and very few are vegetarians so how come we have these illnesses? Is she suggesting that all vegetables are bad for you and we should eat only meat?
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I got the following from this source:  It seems interesting to me. http://www.beyondveg.com/billings-t/comp-anat/comp-anat-3c.shtml To Summarize: Since the inception of the human genus Homo, ~2.5 million years ago, the human diet has included meat. "Early hominid diet was probably like recent hunter-gatherer diets in the sense that it would have been a mixture of plant and animal foods, depending on habitat and season. There are no strictly vegetarian hunter-gatherers, and purely "carnivorous" hunter-gatherers (or nearly so) are rare (the traditional Inuit's 90-95% flesh diet being the only example); mixed diets predominate. As a universal, long-term aspect of culture that includes consumption of animal foods, biological adaptation to a diet that includes animal foods is an inevitable outcome of evolution. This occurs as a result of the feedback loop between evolution and long-term behavior patterns (including culture as an important element). As a significant part of the range of diets we are adapted to by evolution, meat--specifically the lean meat and organs of wild animals--can be considered natural (food). However, as humans are intelligent, we can use our intelligence to choose a different diet, if we wish." It seems to be indicating that, historically, from the beginnings of human ancestors, the diet was a mix of meat and plant/nut/seed sources.  So omnivore seems the appropriate category for humans. But we are intelligent and may choose a vegetarian or vegan diet.  But it is an individual choice.  Our long omnivore history does make it plausible that the vegan/vegitarian diet could work for some and not for others.  So each person has to figure out what works for them.   I would love if all animals could die a natural death and never become food for any other species...and I get this wish of vegans, I really do.  But I'm saying a human being, historically an omnivore, ...we might not all find the vegetarian or vegan diet optimal for our health...some of us will and some won't.  We've got to realize it's not black and white, all or none, and the meat eater who feels they must, for optimal diet, eat meat isn't a morally bad person.  I don't know about where I'll fall because I'm taking a close look at all of this because I do love animals a lot.  But my health is a top priority too.
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+carfreelori And one more thing, when I first started researching all of this it was because I'd watched a slaughter video and I really wanted my research to point me in the direction of veganism; it hasn't and I'm not apologizing for that.  I've been seeking what I find to be true and my conclusions aren't what I'd originally wanted, but I'm not going to distort my beliefs to fit what I'd wanted to find out.  I'm realizing that I will always be an omnivore and a meat eater but one who is very, very appreciative and respectful to animals and one who will never eat meat that comes from factory farming and bad conditions or a bad slaughter.  These are my ethics and I stand behind the idea that this is completely moral and valid.
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Helpful Hint:  you can post a hyperlink to an article you wish to reference without posting the entire article. 
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We can eat raw vegetables, grains and fruits. Try going on an all raw meat, raw dairy diet and see how long you live. My cat does just fine, because, she is a Carnivore, she can deal with it, we can't and conversely if I feed raw grains to my cat as a staple diet, she will get sick and probably die. 
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the only reason humans are able to digest meat is because we can cook it. Humans were never intended by nature to eat meat, until we discovered how to use fire to cook meat. The human digestion system is not designed to digest raw meat because humans were never intended by nature to eat meat. We are facilitative omnivores in the sense that we use technology to make it possible to eat something that we could otherwise not be able to eat. Just like how we use technology in the form of clothing to make it possible for us to live in cold climates that we were otherwise not adapted to living in. Human beings were biologically designed for living in a tropical to semi-tropical climate since we lack in body hair for insulating our bodies. But with the invention of clothing, we could live in colder climates.  Human beings are able to use to technology make it possible for them to do things that they were biologically not capable of doing. For example, human beings can use technology to fly in the form of airplanes even though we are not anatomically designed for flight like birds. Fire and cooking is one of the most basic technologies that allowed humans to become omnivores.
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+AmandaNerdBot You've made the comment in several places that fire is the only thing allowing humans to call themselves omnivores, because without cooking meat it is inedible to us.  However you seem to be ignoring the fact that fire is actually THE defining feature of humanity.  Any species without fire is considered non human or pre human, not human. Except for extremely rare individuals, humans do not exist without fire, nor do humans exist without eating animal proteins.  By definition of our (cooked) omnivorous diet, we are human.  This isn't a trick some humans are doing just to fool you into thinking eating meat is okay.  It is the way humans have always been, everywhere.
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Hmmm plants don't contain essential vitamins? Spinach has huge amounts of vitamin A, E and K-1 (which your body converts into k-2). I don't understand why she would lie about that lol FAIL
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This mutha fucka crazy..
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1- 2 minutes into the presentation the first failure came up. First, brains got bigger through the process of cooking, we ate meat long before we got smart. Second, meat was a secondary, reciprocal food source. Hunting is dangerous and often deadly. That's why we headed for the coast in the first human migrations. Meat is eaten for only two reasons: 1) Vitamin B12 and 2) we are out of equatorial areas and it's winter. The Vegg. ist gone. (Stay where it's warm!) The rest of the presentation is a long, slow and excrutiating presentation of willful ignorance....
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This lady makes some good points, but misses the primary reason that humans MUST go vegan.... and that is that animals are NOT ours to use for our purposes.    Please read The World Peace Diet by Dr. Will Tuttle, which is the most stunningly brilliant and important book EVER.   Also for the scientific proof that humans do NOT need to eat anything from animals read T. Colin Campbell's The China Study.   It's silly to decide that humans need animals to survive when so many of us are doing so much better without any animal products in our lives!!!   But also, more important than all that is the karma.   It's wrong to exploit, torture and murder anyone (human or non-human sentient beings).
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I'm sorry but it's silly to tell us that there is scientific proof that we do not need to eat anything from animals to survive. We are Omnivores, so many of us tried a well planned " healthy" vegan diet for many years and we got very ill. I don't want to just survive but yet be a burden on my family by being a practical invalid. I have accepted that I need animal products to be well, why do I need your guilt trip or your Karma dumping? It also deeply disturbs me the amount of pro-vegan propaganda on Youtube that is obviously aimed at young girls and teenagers. Freelee's and Durian Rider's vegan agitprop "Carb the fuck up" and "Fat shaming" also aimed at teenagers. Yes, apparently, all we need is Fruit and lots of carbs and VERY small intellects to believe what vegans tell us we should believe. We too can be very skinny and morally superior to all you animal holocaust, raping, exploitative, murdering, animal secretion sucking, chicken ovulation eating, corpse munchers. A whole new generation now will develop health problems and infertility from this stupid fad, guilt trip, fantasy island, health diet. WE ARE OMNIVORES, it is O.K that we accept nature dear.
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climate change is a myth and a joke... pay al gore trillions and he will save the planet and u... he psomises ;)
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I chose to be vegetarian becase of the impact on the environment and for my health. I chose to be vegan on an ethical basis. I know we can't sustain good health on a vegan diet without supplements, but she doesn't have her facts straight when talking about plant based nutrition. The only supplement needed on a well composed plant based diet is B12 (with some exemptions: with lack of exposure to sunlight you need vitamin D supplements. Eating no seafoods you need iodine supplements. You might need supplements of selenium depending on the quantities in the soil where your food is grown.) Energy and proteins are no problem if you know what you're doing. Seeds, nuts, beans and cereals are all rich in energy and proteins. Proteins does only need to be of high quality if you eat small amounts on a daily basis (less than 0,4g/kg of bodyweight/day) and/or if you have an energy deficiency for more than a couple of days. Some of the most important things to do when choosing a entirely plant based diet is to eat larger amounts of food, take supplements in some form and avoid eating a lot of salads.  Here's more specifics:  Vitamin A (retinol)- the body does only need it when it doesn't get enough carotenoids like beta-carotene, which we find plenty of in many plant bbased foods like carrots, kale, sweet potato, parsley and rosenips.  Vitamin K - the body absorbs it in the colon from our normal intestinal bacteria and therefore we do not need to eat it.  Vitamin D - is produced in our skin when exposed to sunlight!  Hem-iron - though it's an easy accessible form of iron it is not essential that he body gets hem-iron. Iron is essential and there are plenty of plant based sources like pumpkin seeds, sesame seeds, soy beans, lentils, spinach, parsley, strawberries and so on.  CoQ10 - is manufactured by most of the bodys tissues and is therefore not an essential nutrient. Only those who are born without certain genes that are essential for biosynthesis of the co-enzyme in the body. 
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She is a radical feminist, so you can guarantee anything that she says is pure bullshit
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Your statement is illogical, that she is a feminist does not "guarantee" anything, let alone that "anything that she says is pure bullshit" so it looks like your statement is crap.. Your 2 contributions/uploads to the Gestalt- intelligence-collective-mind that is Youtube, appear to be you virtually shooting /virtually stabbing pretend people.  So I would say your'e not really challenging Lierre in the intellectual and/or adding to Human consciousness stakes at the moment. BTW, are you REALLY laughing out loud? cause my statement wasn't that funny really...
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Proteins: It is normal, that different proteins are combined - even if the single proteins are low quality, the amino-acid profiles complement each other. The total amino acid profile can be very high quality. Vitamin E: Many vegan sources. Vitamin D: No problem, if you expose your skin to the sun, in fact only a relatively small amount is absorbed by food. Its possible to get some Vitamin D2 by sun-dried mushrooms to bridge some time without sun. Iodine: Some algae are very rich in iodine, very small amounts of algae can be enough (you can use a spice grinder) Selenium: One brazil nut a day. Iron: Its advisable for vegans to get a higher amount of iron than meat-eaters, because the iron from plants is not as well absorbed. Vitamin C increases absorption of it and can effectively work against inhibitors, but its still a bit worse absorbed than iron from meat. So take a higher amount than the RDA and you are fine - there are iron-rich vegan sources. Vitamin K: The vitamin K1-Form is found in huge amounts in green veggies, the K2-Form can be synthesizes from bacteria in the human intestine, if K1 is available. Vitamin B12: Some people may have bacteria in their small intestine which can produce B12 (different bacteria have been found in the human intestine, which are thought to produce B12) B12-supplements are also made by bacteria, they are also often used for farm animals. B12 supplement is recommended, because relying on natural absorption is unnecessary risk (if it is possible at all. There are vegans, who claim they dont use ANY supplements at all for many years, but dont risk it, you can damage your health). Omega3: The essential Form is ALA, other Omega3s can be synthesized from there. ALA is found in huge amounts in some seed, eg flax seeds. According to a study, eating curcumin (curry) can boost the synthesis. Alternative is eating algae-oil, has different omega3s directly.
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WTF, agriculture kills everything on a plot of land, down to the microbial bacteria in the soil, huh?? If that's the case then nothing would grow, soil is not called dirt because soil is alive with organisms that make plants grow, this chick is f*ckin' loopy
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This book contains so many inaccuracies, inconsistencies, contradictions and pseudoscience that it renders the whole thing worthless.  However, a lot of people are unaware of this and do actually believe it all, especially as many people desperately want to believe that we need to eat meat, dairy and saturated fat.  It's like telling a small child that eating plenty of candy is good for you.  Lierre has done no research of her own, and 'borrows' from other pseudoscientific publications, very rarely does she give references to the original source.  She's obviously cherry-picked her information to back up her own view.  If you believe this book, you'd be forgiven for thinking that no study has ever concluded that a vegan diet has positive health effects.  The book is totally unbalanced in favour of huge quantities of meat and dairy. She places a lot of weight on her claimed "nearly 20 years as a vegan" to imply that she has experience and knows what she's talking about.  Apart from the fact that she was frequently 'binging' on non-vegan foods, Lierre actually has no scientific training of any sort, yet claims that she used "the scientific method" to determine whether a study should be included in the book.  Many things she claims should be blantantly obvious to any reader.  E.g. She claims that humans are like dogs (omnivores) because dogs swallow food without chewing.  No human being eats a meal without chewing!  Good grief.  Another example is that she claims humans can't move their jaws side to side and nor can humans.  Her conclusion, here again, is that humans are omnivores because of their supposed inability to move their jaws side to side.  Go on!  Try it now.  You CAN move your jaw side to side. In the end, Lierre doesn't have a single qualification in any of the fields she discusses.  She has zero scientific trainging or education, yet expects intelligent readers to take her book more seriously than those who are qualified and have actually researched and published their own findings. The book is factually bankrupt.
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+Dee Smith​ All Lierre does is cherry pick from those that agree with her claim that ALL VEGANS GET ILL. I know this to be false. She claims that she's never met a single healthy long-term vegan who didn't regularly cheat. Okay. She's never MET me but it's obvious from her email responses to me that she dismisses my claim to be a long-term, non-cheating, healthy vegan. She doesn't say directly that I'm lying but she does reiterate her claims. She simply dismisses anything that contradicts what she believes (or wants to believe). That includes all publications, all studies, all personal testimonies. I have never said that veganism is a wonder-diet but it most certainly is not the intrinsically unhealthy diet she claims. I'm not sure whether she is simply in denial or whether she knows she's painting a black and white view of veganism and health. But she is incorrect. She also fails to realise that some people are vegan for reasons she's not mentioned in the book. So even if she WERE correct in everything she claims she still hasn't knocked MY (and almost definitely others') reasons for being vegan. "You'll get ill because I did." doesn't carry any weight for a 4-decade long healthy vegan. She accuses vegans of being 'in a semi-permanent state of anger'. I'm not surprised that she meets many vegans who appear angry. Her book is highly insulting. 'Immature', 'childish', 'unable to see reality' are just 3 insulting untruths she uses in the book. She blames the vegan diet. This argument can not be used for the other groups who are angry with Lierre. E.g. The LGBT people who are angry at her for her viscious verbal attacks on transgendered women. In my opinion, Lierre is, herself, internally angry and is attempting to release that anger by directing it at others. She is quite probably unaware of this. However she has stated that mental illness is in her family; including members who have never been vegetarian or vegan.
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+Dee Smith No. I am not claiming to be different users.
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