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The Subtle Art of Self-Delusion

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Okays, so I finally had enough of the empty criticism. "Intolerant hateful bigot" etc IS NOT an argument. Nor is it a convincing response to an argument. And if you accepted these arguments over 2...

I'm from the Middle East. I lived a good portion of my life in Lebanon where I went to school. One thing I realized is that living conditions in Middle Eastern countries are often really bad and don't really support education. This problem has a domino effect on the population as a whole; education often promotes people thinking for themselves and the lack of education causes people to become like sheep controlled by their leaders and their faith. In Lebanon there is a prominent hatred between different religious groups and as a result, people are always fighting with each other there. More fighting -> harder to get an education -> less educated people -> leaders control the population more easily -> more fighting ->etc... The good news for the Middle East is that with the rise in secularism and neo-atheism more people are starting to think for themselves and eventually the Middle East will climb out of its bubble.
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+Advanced skepticism thats very true and I agree with what you said so what made you get to this point to realizing this fact while living there? are you just a smarter then average person or were your living conditions better? I myself am considered being poor in the u.s but because I have the internet I can self educate and change my views about the world. thats actually how I became an atheist from a Christian is a constant flow to knowledge. do many poor people where you live have computers and the internet? I can really understand what they are going through over there minus the killings but yeah it does really suck to be poor and maybe even be angry at the country that caused it, id be furious too. But I hope there are people in the middle east that understand that not every American agrees with what its own country is doing and is even angry about it themselves.
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You compared muslim world population and 'islamic world'. That argument I should avoid. Majority of 2 bln muslims don't live in 'islamic world'. There is more muslims in China than in Syria.
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+Baeskorven +Basil II, Emperor of the Romans The Bulgar Slayer Aceh, the westernmost province, actually has implemented Sharia, which would be unthinkable in the secular society.
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On the local level they can do such things. If they tried Sharia law in Bali for example, guess what would happen?
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Islam is a disease to the world, but no more than Christianity once was, there are not fewer Christians now they are just less devoted to Christianity. I wish there was no religion, but the first step to eliminating religion is to teach religious people. Teach them anything that is true about the world, because every facet of study disproves something about religion. If we have a more educated population, then we will have people becoming less devout as they see the world and eventually people will be able to look at religion as a cultural vestige, like we look at human sacrifice now.
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+GOLF MANIA to you muzzies every young boy is pussy too. Just like your prophet little boys and girls too.
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lets rehash this flame war right now... religion is stupid and i don't respect it. atheists are nothing but pot needle addicts islam is a faith based on terrorism mormons are the only true religion tom cruise is a scientologist cuz he's better than u. let the #ragestorm begin.
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+seniven I do apologise, it just gets to me sometimes when people don't believe my favourite fairy tale :(
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At the end of the cold war, one side had won, ours. The spoils started to spread. Is it really all that surprising that people such as the SJWs devise schemes for procuring cash at a time like this? Perhaps this is the main reason. Even this is not the cause it is still the opportunity.
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Seriously like you say if we could set up schools in those countries and let children choose their religion or non-religion Islam would disappear in a matter of years.
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Sorry thf00t I've nerver heard you criticize the jewish religion and myths ... Why is this simple fact never adressed or answered ? This, surely has no links whatsoever with who's been funding you since the start.
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All religions are mental diseases...and religious people are weak and ignorant..if they did any real research, with a true open mind(which they are incapable of doing, unfortunately), they would realize this..
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+China Rider Thank you for your opinion. I'm religious myself, and it seems like an extreme generalization to suggest that all religious folk are incompetent and weak, as that would be anywhere from eighty to ninety percent of the world population. Apparently I can't outperform my fellow non-religious students because I don't research things, and I hate science? I've always myself considered to be a scientist, and my religiousness has yet to prevent me from excelling in the fields of biology, chemistry, physics, etc. To label people as weak is to ignore their strengths, for we all have them, and as a skeptic, you ought to steer clear of such ridiculous blanket statements.
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you can't call someone a bigot over an opinion you dumb shits, that makes you a bigot yourself, find another word damn it...
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"intolerant hateful bigot" is an argument - if it's true.  In the case of your videos, I don't see hatred towards muslims, I see hatred towards islam.  Which is fine.  We should hate what is bad, dangerous, and vile.  I should think any sane homo sapient would feel the same way towards anything that inhibits the human race from achieving it's true potential.
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Dear Thunderfoot, I did notice that you lacked information on the Islamic world and the peculiar nature of Islam. It does have a very profound, intimate, link with culture, and politics. However, the guy you show on the video has no idea about what you were talking about and probably doesn't know himself how intricate the Arab world is. The coming fall of ISIS is going to have a very strong impact on belief in Islam. People will reconsider Islam and many will see their failure as the proof that Islam is wrong. Besides, Islam is being discussed in the First world too, and it will also lead to muslims partially cooling down. So I do think that there will be fewer muslims and/or that they will prove more open to actual science. After that, we only have to hope that the Muslim States will talk about the problems of their religion soon enough. In short, I expect/hope for a fall of Muslim extremism in the coming decade.
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+Sith'ari Azithoth Exactly. In many cases Islam almost becomes a second nationality to the believer. But Islam is also a religion which can adapt to the local customs, so I wouldn't rule out completely a possibility of cohabitation with them. However, I agree with you on the notion that "people that like and wand Islamic law should go to Islamic countries." Shariah law is not tolerable.
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+Isakaldaz Wulfazizsunus I think converts might take it as a second nationality, but to people born in it, especially arab muslims from the middle east, it is their first nationality to their mind, no matter where they go. As if they can't differentiate between ethnic background, religion, and nationality. That's why in Europe they go, presumable get citizenship, assuming they aren't blatant illegal immigrants, but then retain their identity as Muslims, instead of whatever country they are in. Sure, if they know how to differentiate and only see it as a religion, then fine, but how many actually abhor sharia? Not many, if any, I think. Seems like they want it when they go to other countries. I think it is an assumption on the westerner part that they came to the west to escape sharia, because WE find it so horrific. But I don't think that is the case, for them. Many times we see that they find western ideologies like freedom of speech, sexual orientation, religion, etc very wrong, and want it replaced. =( So what are they doing here, and why do we let them in, when that is the case?
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10:34 "Just how central Islam is to islamic societies" So , is that a reason to get easy on them, to not criticise them ? The things he's talking about are exactly the problems with Islam. And he thinks that are arguments FOR Islam.   Idiot.
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I'm sure you know why already. It's because Muslims are a minority and SJWs can't bear to hear minorities criticized. Imagine if Christians had attacked Charlie Hebdo for satirizing Jesus. You wouldn't have seen Full McIntosh saying "je ne suis pas Charlie."
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Nothing has changed in past 4 years.
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"They want to be martyrs? I'm here to help them." -Christopher Hitchens
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islam MORE LIKE IS LAME AHAHHAHAHAHAHA IM SO CLEVER!
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+Catopus I don't have a bomb. Let's be friends.
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Iran has the Nuke capability...chose them or us??? It's not us that is choosing to hate Islam rather Islam is choosing to hate non-Islamic peoples of the world!
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You will never rid the world of religion because people need something to believe in other than science and society.  In the end, we will all die and people need to believe there is something after death and a meaning for life.  It's not enough to say okay you just get your 60+ years on this earth (if you make it that far) and then it's a hole in the ground for you.  That does not give people hope.  Even if science can extend life to 160 years, it still won't be enough.  People hunger for spiritual meaning.
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Dude, I wasn't even getting into the debate."Strawman your way out of a debate". I don't even care about the debate, I didn't even enter it. Your punctuation really was that atrocious.
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the point is....islam like christianity and judaism...DO NOT BENEFIT THE PLANET  AS A WHOLE... IN ANY WAY
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"I can't be responsible for my actions" That's the words of a psychopath, lock that bitch up ASAP.
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I would assume that it is the fear of violence. No other religion is a threat like Islam - if you mock Christians, they won't like it, they'll write a bunch of angry comments and that's it. Muslims will riot, will destroy buildings and kill people. That is a sincere fear people have, which is why they don't want Islam to be touched at all.
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+Nogarkhaz  Also you're generalizing a little bit too much. I think whether someone will just write a bunch of angry stuff or burn buildings down depends more than not on their personality and how they've been brought up, not on their chosen faith. If you insult a christian in a maximum security prison, you won't live very long, probably. Not all muslims would kill just to get their point across, it depends on what kind of environment they were raised in.
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+RainingArtillery Not saying they all will kill. I'm saying that the fear of dying if you ridicule Islam is real to many people, and they don't have this fear regarding any other religion. Saying "not everyone will kill you" does nothing to lessen this fear. Islam is the motherload of bad ideas, it is worse than the old testament. Muslims are required to know the Quran by heart and pray 5 times a day. Otherwise they aren't a good Muslim. It's heavy indoctrination. Muslims don't only need to "fix their community". They need to change how their whole culture is practiced.
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It would seem to me that for people that hold to Darwinian Evolution as scientifically sound they must first come to grips with the fact that the theory has no scientific base to build itself upon. To my knowledge it has never been demonstrated, using the scientific method, the ability for the various elements of carbon based life to organize itself into an living single celled organism. And while this does not prove the theory is false it certainly leaves the door open for competing theories. It would seem to me if the argument for a theory is began in the middle of the journey without first proving the first step that it would have taken to start the journey you leave the theory open for any crackpot to say what ever they like leaving the theory with no scientific basis to defend itself.
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You're comitting a common Eurocentric fallacy when you think it all comes down to the Greeks (a small country that happened to have a golden age).   Even Rennaisance humanism isn't really the same thing as Greek rationalism, The west ( especially non-mediterranean anglo-celtic culture) evolved from a pretty different direction than Greek culture did......western culture is actually more an evolution of medieval and Asian and Muslim culture than it is classical Greece...... You sound like the type of asshole who thinks that because he's an atheist; he understands western history.  But history is extremely complex like any other field. But go ahead and commit historical fallacies (like confusing early modern with renaissance). Or claim that it was caused by a "rediscovery" of Greek ideas such as the Indo-arabic number and decimal system. Or did you think that "Plato's cave" crap was actually important? No, better yet, you thought some misogynist with crap theories (Aristotle) created the modern world??
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+SUpersaiyajinjerkbag To be fair he said,"From around 600 to 1000AD the Islamic empire was the centre of culture, freedom of thought and scientific advancement for the world." Further, you are not at a cross disciplinary seminar on "The development of Western Cultures and reflexive approaches to the history of that development". No footnotes (or backnotes), no bibliographies - You are watching a video on You Tube. Most people watching this are not as educated or as widely read as you and perhaps have less retentive memories. This video was tailored toward an average audience. It is not Thunderf00t's job to make bespoke videos for you.
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iknow this was posted a long time ago, but its totally silly.  mr foot, im sorry you catch all this negstive flack. islam needs to fall. im with you on that. its poisonious, and its a religion of hate and war. it needs to fall.  i imagine the people who are getting butt hurt because your laying into islam are probably in shock still from the war. and from all the press from it. all they saw was citys burning and reduced to rubble, and every where you looked on tv, there was another grouo of muslims dead in the streets on the news. then im sure the hate tactics they use to scare the world to not draw fuckign cartoons probably feed this paranoia aswell. people feel, even if they dont know they feel this way that they need to walk on eggshells arround islam. and that they are an oppressed people, and we the opresser. you turn on the news ofet and you find someone speaking to how islam understands, and that they strive for peace. so people sympathize with them and fall for the same islamic trick of making your enemy think they arent up to something. its written in their koran to deceive the enemy; also preaching peace too. yes islam is a religion of peace. but according to them, the only way peace can be found, is through islam, and there will be no rest and no peace for man or beast until there is no man that is not a muslim, the koran is in fact a manual of war, a war to rule the world. they wish to find peace by converting every person alive and forever more to islam. you can see it across the world. masqus going up everywhere. census predictions say that islam will out number the rest in our lifetime. islam is a sickness. its everywhere. they react irrationally to the slightest utterance of dissonance. killing everyone they can. but they hide behind the vale of helplessness and innocence. tfoot, you are not wrong man. not one bit.   
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"I cant be responsible for my actions" Bitch youre a little pussy boy who acts like a child. That old man should have dropped your whiny ass right there.
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People distance themselves because they are bitch-ass pussies who are terrified of what some nut-job violent psychopathic muslim might do to them. Personally they can all eat a fat bag of bacon-wrapped dicks, I will say what the fuck I want to about their retarded religion.
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+Heavensgrace Reapthem Sure I would, I'd have a custom firearm that shoots hot dogs out of it. I'd be invincible!
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5:30 actually, its the mongols. they turned the rivers around baghdad black with ink when they killed around a million people living there. that was in the 1200's, after the war between ghengis khan and the karismian shaw.
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0:35 If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names. - Elbert Hubbard
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 thunderf00t when reading the comments on these video segments you honestly came to the conclusion that creationists are the angry hateful ones? i see more insults and vulgarity from the athiests here. i might be biased though 
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You did say they never recovered from their fall. It's kinda like arguing philosophy with a kid in that case. They're just so retarded and stubborn that they literally don't know better, and are not ready to play with the big boys.
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To the benefit of Islamic countries, algebra was created by Muslims.
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Yeah, before they became anti science. 
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As a former Muslim i also fail to understand why many atheists refuse to criticize islam even though it has alot of the fault's Christianity and Judaism ( as a religious belief) have and more, and as for what the guy in the video said about islam being a "central" part of the iIslamic world i'd say that so was cristianity to the west at some point, that's all i have to say. PS: sorry for my bad english. 
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Yes the 20th century is replete with the wonderful "Achievements" of enlightened Atheists like; Moe, Stalin an Hitler. Their ideologies killed, what, 125-150 million people? But it is all regions that are the main evil doers in the world. I do not need your approval and your supercilious atheist bullshit. Nothing but another religion with devote preachers like this asshole looking to elevate himself. Of course he was baiting viewers to go to the genocide argument.
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That was the poorest and most self serving attempt at apologetic logic for atheistic barbarism I ever heard. If I get it right everything the religious people do is because of their religion. Conversely nothing an atheist does has anything to do with their atheistic beliefs. Is that about right?
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+Heyward Shepherd If you said "because of their lack of belief in God", instead of something like "Atheist beliefs", you'd have a start on the correct wording, but it still wouldn't have much ground to work with. Literally every country that existed before Stalin and Mao had two seats of power:  The government and the church.  History is rife with conflict between those two forces, or at the very least, the kingdom having to pay upkeep and homage to the church. This time around, they wanted only one hand stirring the pot.  That's it.  Neither Stalin or Mao ever once wrote that "Because I believe in no god, I shall now set forth this judgement". And if you want to say that a lack of belief in God enables people to 'do whatever they want", then I want an in depth breakdown about why secular european countries have the lowest crime and rape rates, and that atheists in America have the lowest incarceration rate (even when adjusted for per-capita amounts to the population) has nothing to do with their lack of religion, and we'll have a talking point.
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Islam is Christianity.
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+Jeremiah767 im surprised at the sheer number of fucks you give about my comment.
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+John Oliver Its because I care about you bro.  You're wrong, and you're using words wrong, but I love you enough, to extend my hand and help you out.  We're all brothers on this rock, that is hyperbole, but it is true that we are all related.  I would rather your life be filled with precise use of words, rather than this school of grammatical apathy from which you seem to have come.  This isn't sarcasm here, I really do care about everyone until they prove themselves too ignorant to be worth my time, on a pragmatic level, something you haven't done yet. 
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Genocide huh? It could work... XD jk
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5:40 your not so tough now you dumb slut
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people are so fucking stupid holy shit 
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Because of the media. Muslims just point the finger back at us while they step closer and closer to infiltration of other societies..Its how they take over. From the inside out.
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"White guilt"... for lack of a better term.   The same reason feminism is swallowed wholesale despite its inanity... for the reason they don't believe in intra cultural similarities and intercultural differences... for the same reason they think women and men aren't dimorphic at all and we are all completely equal with zero differences... because some truths are unpleasant to accept and shatter their Disney worldview. 
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All right. I'm a Christian. But I have to admit, a lot of that is just sad. I like to believe I'm educated enough. I don't call people bigots for disagreeing with my ideals. I try to understand why they disagree, but I don't like debates on Creationism vs. Evolution. Frankly, I don't care about that stuff. Sure, I like to argue here and there, but where these viewpoints are concerned debating is pointless. It's like the presidential debates, which usually wind up nowhere and with both sides thinking they've just won the whole argument.
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Here's a heads up ! at the 9:20 mark in this video it gets very loud, so if you are getting used to Thunderf00t's calm relaxing voice, or if you are watching this all alone in bed at 6:00 am, WATCH OUT, you have been warned, LMFAO !
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I'm greek so I guess I'm good. :D
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I see comments in this video that wish that religion was nonexistent, and how much better the world would be without blind devotion to dogma. I don't disagree, but eliminating religion wouldn't solve the actual problem. That problem is the blind devotion to a cause. If religion is the disease of the uneducated, then ideology is the educated man's religion. The true problem with most societies, in my opinion, is that a majority of the population refuses to do a very important thing: think for themselves. People want easy lives, and I get that. However, sometimes the easy way isn't always the right way. I live in the USA, and I've seen firsthand people complain that the people in public office don't care about what they want, but then these same people refuse to educate themselves on actual important issues before they vote. If they vote at all. They'd rather wrap themselves in entertainment and be happy than actually take the time to deal with the important issues that affect everyone. The masses need to wake up. We're human beings, so stop acting like sheep.
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The Scientology one was hilarious. I can't believe how stupid some people can be. LOL! "You tell me facts about my religion you must be a pedophile!"
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"it is inextricable" that creationism is their focus?- related creationism and Islam as inextricable... then argues to the means of opposing idea's, then says they are indeed the same; wtf? kay bro go ahead and start from scratch on your logic and come back to me in 30 years =/.
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Man this guy is boring.  What a life. 
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It's called Oikophobia. Being the opposite of xenophobia. Xenophobia is fear of the alien. Oikophobia is fear of the familiar. This particular brand of oikophobes will denigrate anything that is perceived to be Christian, Western, heterosexual etc. while praising anything that is "foreign" such as immigrants, foreign cultures and customs, religions. Which is why in wars they tend to side with the "enemy" or excuse the actions thereof (ala September 11th). This is especially a problem in universities which act as breeding grounds for oikophobia. It is known as politcial correctness. The intellectual left are especially prone to becoming oikophobic. This is why people will defend barbaric Islamic culture but viciously attack comparatively civilised Christian culture.
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You are a muslim, therefore you are a liar. Its not your fault. Your mother and father are muslims so they are liars. Your wife is a muslim so she is a liar. Your sons and daughters are muslim so they are liars. Also, your prophet was a liar who got his lies from the jinn gabrial who got the lies from the father of lies, the great demon god allah who will reside for all eternity in the lake of fire.
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lets pretend to have found text from both god and allah that state heaven can be reached by leaping off the grand canyon. Problem solved, I advocate genocide of the ignorant.
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"educated guesses"
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Hardcore muslims have islam so deeply rooted into their narrow minds, I don't think there is a "nice" way to get rid of this tumor. Total annihilation seems like a good plan. Besides, they blow themselves up all the time. But would never work, they have allah on their side.
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Kek. Allah is just as useful as any other god against modern day weaponry. Useless.
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As long as you agree that the same goes for "hardcore" christians and jews.
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People can be hesitant to criticize Islam, for the same reason they criticize it, it is an 'other' religion that has been portrayed as outside Western culture, which people don't really know that much about. Criticizing something which is outside of their cultural experience easily transforms to criticizing the entire culture and the people in it. I think cultural relativism can be very detrimental as an affront to humanism, but its the same thing as criticizing a religion based on generalization in the absence of understanding. The point when Thunderfoot really lost me in Islam is was when he portrayed Saudi Arabia as an archetypal Islamic country, and constantly refers to "they" as being violent and fanatic just re-using stereotypes without any evidence or context. The whole "reciprocity" argument relies on portraying a monolithic body of Islam and is no different from people saying 'we' should bomb Mecca after 911. 
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There you have it. Thats exactly what he was talking about. For some reason you feel the need to protect islam.
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I think your criticism should be directed at muslims and not Islam. You yourself have acknowlegde earlier on (centuries ago, back when we were badass), muslims made major contributions in the scientific world and that was necessary for the west to develop. So my point here is Islam was founded in the 6th century and it's golden age lasted till about the 14-15th century which means? Well the first 8-9 centuries Islam was doing great so it's founding principles were great, however muslims have now forgotten Islam's teachings and forgotten the tolerance, patience and kindness that the religon demands in a person's character. I remember a hadith in which a non-muslim urinated in a mosque which angered the muslims to the extent of threatening violence until the Prophet (S) intervened to stop the muslims from doing any harm to the non-muslim and said all that needed to be done was washing the urine with water to make the mosque clean and let the non-muslim go. Point here is: he thought muslims NOT to get angry or use violence. Anyhow Thunderf00t we'll agree to disagree.
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1ST. I'd like to tell you that your video educative, amusing, educative & they scare a lot of CULTISTS...! I do think that's a huge part of the reason so many imbeciles have been after your videos in a very negative way...! A lot of people watch any kind with there safeguard on and as soon as they ear something negative about one of there beliefs stop listening...! They are most uneducated or if they are educated it's only in there field they pass the rest of there waking in from of the television...! Very rarely you find any educative & interesting program unless It's entertainments...! There is a couple of interesting & special channels but they're so rare and they do put unverified program that when you watch them you have to do a research to find out that it was just creative make believe, it very disappointing but for who train their brain in only there field of & entertainments, they are just as uneducated than the hillbillies...! I don't how you've been fighting but they don't have a shred of critical thinking in their genes so it makes them very difficult to get a concise comment out of them...! The only they want is to stop you from making your videos and they do that to a lot of good one and also they nearly everything Atheist, plus as you to get comments of your subscribers, ideas, suggestions you can't possibly have your comments sections blocked because you lose all the good feed back just to get rid of the assholes and that would be even worse...! these idiotic bigot would take it as a win against you and raise the pressure on blocking your videos...! they're doing in groups because they know that if there are 50 demands of blocking you tube will always go with that majority and you can't get anyone to report to say that your works is high quality & good...! unfortunately, we can report the bad which just me an idea, i'm pretty sure that the bigots videos are quite bad and full of reasons to report them...! I know, i know you like the amendment that doesn't shut up & down every opinions but there is some kind of a war of harassment against you...! You can certainly make an exception to break them down and put some confusion or dissents in there group of people who harass you, that could work and people like that are usually lazy...! It takes about 2 or 3 min. to report a person or a video but you know for sure the hassle you have to go through to get all the ban videos back...! You have a pest problem what do you do usually ??? you call the exterminator to kill the pests out to get the area clean & pest free...! You have close to 350,000 hundred thousand subscribers, i'm sure you can get 500 hundred or less to get rid of your pest problem you can also do PARODIES of there mediocre videos they use all their brain to do...! I didn't start yet to do some videos yet because before doing anything I do study the market to what is love the most and choose the a couple that fall in my tastes so it's more enjoyable that way, but even if I don't do anything but put my opinions of the videos I watch, I do get trolled or harassed sometime...! I learn the hard way what the trolls are when someone wrote nicely "don't feed the trolls i realize right away what pest they were so now I either don't reply or block them if they harassed me...! I was so naïve at the beginning, i never thought someone would pretend to debate a subject just for the pleasure to make you angry and cause you stress & rage...! Anyway keep on doing what your doing because they're excellent videos and your narrative is very well reflected you really put your heart in your works...! I found you in a Matter2525 that's I got to really appreciated your stuff, GOOD LUCK AND DON'T EVER STOP PHOENIX ON FIRE
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Could it be because people fear the religion and the way the followers react.
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Why does Thunderfoot turn to slander when he is criticized on his views?
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A civilised discussion can not be trumped by saying you're actually misinformed, there are still words to be said.
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+linkingaj But that's the problem...They are misinformed....Because TF hasn't stopped destroying their "Counter" arguments... 
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No. It could be argued that the Muslims transferred the knowledge of the Roman Empire (whose territory they conquered) back into Europe. However, to claim that the Muslim nations were somehow overtaken by fundamentalism at one point after the "transfer" and therefore fell behind the Europeans - is absurd. It didn't happen. Quite simply, there is no specific event that retarded the progress of the Ottoman Empire. Instead, Europe took off, while the Muslims pretty much maintained their old rate of progress. And at those times - most everyone was fundamentalist and highly religious. Muslim, Christian, and all. Of course, I'm an atheist, but these things have more to do with economics and the development of Europe, than with any kind of religious fundamentalism retarding the progress of the Ottomans.
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Right now am watching South park end to end. I just watch the Super best friends episode. It wasn't the easiest to find, but I did. Mohamed is awesome in that episode. It angers me that they had to censor him after that. It's unbelievable. They didn't make fun of him (not more than every other character), they actually portrayed him, maybe not actuate, but pretty cool non the less. It bafels me that it's worse to show Mohamed, than it is to show god as a weird looking monkey-snake. After all god is the same as Allah, Abraham's god. It's worse to show the prophet of a god, than the god him self!? - that doesn't make sense.
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+Jong Fuu You're not alone I feel your pain. biblehub.com take a look here. It has many different bible versions plus you can search using terms as well as the ability to go to exact verses. Try looking up the religious history of the people in that area before judaism came to be. The flood story itself had at least 2 other heros in 2 other older versions that pre date noah. I wanna say Gilgamesh was the  1st to survive a world wide flood. Look up the book of enoch, its not in the bible but followed by early jews and some christians but was kicked out at the council of nicea in 325 ce. It talks about angels teaching man about war while they have babies with human women (all angels are male) and the hybrid babies were why god flooded the earth. Unless I'm wrong enoch is the grandfather of noah?
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+Sentinel .Faust What does diablo have to do with the price of tea in china?
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Hardcore muslims have islam so deeply rooted into their narrow minds, I don't think there is a "nice" way to get rid of this tumor. Total annihilation seems like a good plan. Besides, they blow themselves up all the time. But would never work, they have allah on their side.
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3:09 "I'm sure you're a child molester". Man, that Scientologist is a sick person...but what can you expect from someone who believes in a science-fiction story and is deluded enough to turn it into a religion?
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The only difference between a lucid dream and the entire course of history of the Universe, is that one paradigm  has existed for a longer time  than the other,  but neither are absolute existences in themselves,  they both had a beginning and most likely an end.     So if the persistence of time equals proof of reality , then that is an elusive  quest.     The dream in the mind of the sentient being,  may be exactly the same construct as the greater design of the Universe , within their respective designs,  they imply a strong  cognition of   existence, but neither are permanent or self  explanatory.     The dream needs a dreamer to give it existence,   the Universe needs a  Creator God to give it  existence.   Then mathematically dividing both sides of that equation ,  that  anything that bears design for a limited time,  must proceed from  a being.    If a man had a dream ,  and it persisted for a very long time,  he would have to adapt to the dream and exist in that paradigm  , and he would have no choice, but to accept that as another world, with all the same validity that  anything in motion for any amount of time , would impress.    Since the Universe had a beginning,  then  it must have proceeded by design of something that did not have this beginning,  and thus may not have any sort of beginning,   and then it becomes closer in viewpoint to a theory of God , being a better explanation then believing in random chaos , that managed to rise to some order.    sorry .  
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+Carmine Fr All I'm seeing in your posts is nonsense that is much too long for me to care about reading if you're not even willing to put the time into making them presentable.
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+EntitySteel   First you have to find a reason to care ,then to search and then by caring and searching  ,  you accidently stumble over the unknown things,  by discovery.    If you don't know what you are looking for,  then  you can only create a verbal strategy of the method of searching the unknown,   not  knowing anything beforehand what you might find.  But being talented to know how to search and find and store in mind the data,  then  you can chew your cud later.  That means there is nothing really random,  but  in a sense a GUIDED  Method of  Accidental Discovery,  shows an early  hint or prediction of what Intelligent Notions can do.     So the world really cannot exist without any sort of agency to observe it, and sort it out by laws and store information in time for use later,  to  CREATE  change.         So , there must be a God of Nature that has that sort of Attributes,  to be the Prime Mover,    by observing,  by conserving,  by selecting over time  some basic search engine of a design that is capable of discovery,  as such an unlimited free will,  bound by a law of reason in the process of  "Seek and Find"  solutions .   After all that process,  we find in ourselves a hint,  we have a "Limited Free Will"  but what is relative now,  as limited, yet can predict in the maxim of an absolute cause,  an unlimited will.     Sharing in the divine nature of God,  you can see in God any sort of good or evil or indifferent reason you so desire,    Between the God of Nature and the man sharing this talent is a dialog or ping pong effect of  a limited return,   God can send anything at you ,and you can return some of the game to God,  but not all the game  .  So, you are a limited partner,  in league with an intelligent  resource that is  the unlimited senior partner  in the firm.  
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Reading this thread proves to me there's good history!   BUT an end time prophesy of the God of Abraham spoken to millions of New Test believers today,  as myself hearing these worlds of the lord for today;  saying;  "TELL THE WORLD I AM COMING SOON ...SPARE NOT MY WORDS."   To spare not His words is to ask:...Do you know for certain that your sins are forgiven  through faith in Jesus Christ  to qualify for eternal salvation? ...Do you consider yourself a Christian but live like the devil? ...OR  have you "as yet" stepped into the kingdom of God to know that heaven is your eternal home?  ...if not you may  know that today! ...Quote of Jesus Himself;  "Except ye are born again; (accept Him by faith);  ye will not enter the kingdom of God.)  John 3:3  KJV.,  Don't wait till tomorrow,  tomorrow may be too late!  God bless you to this truth!  question? ... Revivalist Sonja Grinstead  Google +  ...fb
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+REVIVAL NOW OR BUST ...are you busted for eternity!?! That's nice. You can throw any quotes you want at me, but realistically, it's about as coherent as reading me various lines from the Harry Potter series.  My point is: just because some millenia-old book claims it does not, by ANY means, come anywhere close to making that statement true. The same can be said for the Qu' Ran and the Torah, along with any other "holy scriptures". It's just incoherent lies. Unless, that is, you can prove to me otherwise.
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+REVIVAL NOW OR BUST ...are you busted for eternity!?! According to the gospel of Satan, you're wrong. Why do you continue to reject your salvation? Accept Satan into your heart and be saved. "Yo, I'm going to squeeze lemons into your eyes after you die unless you worship me, sayeth the dark lord." -Asmodeus 13:66-67
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Here's my solution. Give every non secular middle eastern nation the middle finger and cut trade and immigration with them until they starve. Deport all the Sunnis to the Shia majority countries and vice versa. That'll teach em'.
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Commentating on things like scientology and Islam, when you don't know anything substantial about either, is stupid.
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The thing is, you commenting on his knowledge of islam and scientology, when you don't know how much he knows, is also stupid
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How much do you need to know?  Scientology was created by a mediocre writer of science fiction stories and the "belief" of the religion shows just how mediocre a talent L. Ron Hubbard was.  Insofar as Islam goes, well - - - 9/11.
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I think the real issue is why is +Thunderf00t 's narration hard-panned to the left channel?
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All religions are a danger. It always has been, and nothing anyone can do can change the situation. People believe what they believe. I am an atheist. I have been since I was old enough to read the bible ( in my church, when you were too old you went into a bible study with the pastor). The bible is ridiculous. It has no difference to any other mythology.
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It's quite sad what happened to the Islamic world in regards to that loss of contribution to scientific work. They were pioneers in many scientific fields for a very long time until the fundamentalism took over and changed all that. Most of the stars have Arabic names, we use Arabic numbers, it hurts to think how much more advanced humanity, as a whole, could be right now had that contribution continued. Instead, we have , arguably, advanced, yet we're divided over silly things like religion, and Muslims haven't come much further in the way of forward thinking since then... Oh well...
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people keep living in their own world, the chance they'll change is very very small
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i feel that any argument brought against you is strikingly similar to saying "i'm offended"
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Religion is garbage.  Pure nonsense.  
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The world NEEDS more people like you Thunderf00t.  Well done! Keep fighting for your right to free speech! If allah or god has any power they themselves can put a stop to all this, however, this will not happen because that is just a mental illness upon the weak and feeble minded masses who follow and believe such tripe. Again don't stop!
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Thanks for giving the muslims the secret of ditching religion and study science you ass. Now what we gonna do when they come here with their apaches and blackhawks. Douchebag
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"Science in the muslim world"... "April 1" The science in the muslim world is a joke or the article?
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future looks dark....
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Poor religions...Poor Sheeple... Carrying around this security blanket like Linus... A cross around their neck in anticipation that maybe... JUST MAYBE, this year our dogmatic ruler will come home and lead us all (into the sky?). Incapable to think for themselves or to face the world one on one. And how could they? Having spent so much time learning about nothing when they easily could have learned about something and been better prepared for a violent and volatile Universe.
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I think it is the idea that muslims have that the koran gives all the information that humans need and that it is perfect, without error. It numbs the inquisitive mind into a state of mind that simply thinks there is nothing more to be learned and in fact it is even sinfull to inquire because it just might contradict the perfect word. Can't have that you know
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I think people just feel sorry for Muslims they seem to be unable to defend them selfs with rational arguments. Every thing is just mahumad peace he upon him this or the Koran says that. Then get angry then just deny whatever argument is made without supplying a rebuttle. Just my observations.
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I do believe what most creationist find objectionable to mild criticism of any monotheistic faith it  would have to  be doubt. Faith/ theology  does not pursue doubt. ,Doubt is for science and philosophy, faith is a belief in something that has no proof no doubt no curiosity it answers all of your questions absolutely because God is the absolute answer that is why they hate doubters. If you do not have doubt there are no regrets no mistakes. It takes an intelligent person to take a moment to doubt Terrorist do not doubt, serial killers do not doubt, people who kill for revenge do not doubt, Their mission is absolute.    
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deserved bigotry.........creationism is delusion and verging on madness.........
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I dont think Islam nations know how to make box cuters but they have oil and with out oil Americans or any other country cant run there machines so who is whos poppet?
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+OnekiKai Lets not mention the Iraqi pipeline or the amount of people who died trying to secure it! shhh Do you remember when Saddam set them ablaze during the gulf war. Also there are no Arabs investing billions in the US! it's all in you mind. Chinas debt will not be paid by the amount of electronics you buy from them or have them manufacture for you since you don't have manufacturing capabilities. I sometimes wonder; if the world placed sanctions and stopped trading with the US how long would it take for your societies to devolve in to the wasteland that your peppers so eagerly await. It would be the wild west all over again, just without the slaves or the wealth they generated.
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In the long term, turning off the tap would help the West. They would be forced not to rely on cheap oil and develop more alternatives. Having oceans of oil isn't as important as some might think. That's why so many oil rich nations are still shit holes.
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The West was successful because we keep religion the hell out of politics. 
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Creationists need excuses just to defend their sense of competence.
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While I don't know this for certain, those protesting your exposition of the Islamic religion and culture appear to have been raised in North America and the United Kingdom. In the U.S., the population is estimated to be 73% Christian, 77% in Canada, and 60% in the UK. I think because there is such an overwhelming familiarity with the Christian religion, people, to some degree, feel they are still, in an odd way, a part of that community thus giving them a sense of entitlement and safety to scrutinize those beliefs. For decades now, society has been preaching tolerance and understanding of other cultures, customs, and faith in an attempt to end bigotry and prejudice. It seems like this polarized us. Either you embrace foreign beliefs (foreign being anything that is not Christianity) or you are closed minded, ignorant, and a bigot. It seems that people think logic and reason are subject to change when in a culture different than their own; that some part of them still identifies with the Christian community, making it an 'Us and Them' issue, which society teaches is an act of ignorant hate. I think our culture has taught to fear being seen as a 'racist' or 'islamaphobe' so much that we refuse to see it as just another mythology that is detrimental to the progress of mankind. It's also 1 in the morning, my brain is fried, and I can barely string together a coherent idea... so who gives a fuck what I think...
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What an absolutely random video is this guy some kind of scientologist in denial?
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the Devil you know Thunderf00t. EXAMPLE TIME!! :D Im going to go out on a limb here and say the majoirty of the commenters(made up word) are Americans. Not because of what or how they write but because simply more internet users per capiter. Now these chaps know lots and lots about Christianity and scientology. its taught in their schools and lots of famous celebrities are part of their 'religion'. Islam by contrast isnt well taught and if it is social pressures probably keep a strong bias.(thanks to 9/11 and wonderful tools blaming it on islam).  so bare with me because this is where i sound dumb.  Maybe the reason pointing out the flaws in islam is bigotry while pointing ou tthe flaws in christianism isnt anything that you have done. But the people themselves. Even the athiests. Maybe people would rather christianity be right then islam in a very christian country. So if any religion hjas to be right they'd rather the one they know. So EVERYONE from any Western culture will see islam as a 'wrong' religion simply because they would rather it was.  Therefore pointing out the flaws there...even the same flaws is akin to bashing stupid people already down on their luck becasue they;ve been forced to follow the wrong god. People defend them becasue they are scared of extremeists. becasue they dont see them as a real religion but some child they are alloud to scorn but no one else is alloud to. i know its a stretch and i have no evidence..i mean im sure i could find some psychology papers that would easily support humans siding with familiarty over strangerhood(another made up word) still.... maybe people just want to feel like their defending the down trodden, those that had no choice. people calling it bigotry are themselves bigots for thinking they need defending. "poor islams people insulting them becasue they arnt christian or white"(!) . Its probably similer to sexist arguments. Maybe these people just dont want to agree with Thunderf00t. a more childish and obviouse argument however is maybe while attacking their religion they cannot arguback without just appearing like its an insult but th ey can argue for islam! yeah becasue they arnt islamic and they just want you to be worng and if your wrong about islam maybe your wrong about creationsm . im sure you wont get to this post. im aware lots of people post and this is pro bably along time too late for you to read. I hope my little guesses arnt too obviouse that i seam foolish for pointing them out and you enjoy the viewpoint.  Good day! 
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Well, that's what you get for trying to pose a civil argument to narrow-minded dogmatics. Silly Thunderf00t, thinking that you can reason with zelots...
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You need to give it to the Scientologists a bit more to really make it equal, lol, maybe a lot more.... 
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its all horse shit you fucks there is no god
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If you still cut heads off, you have a long way to go to be considered civilized. If killing your own children for issues beyond their control, you have a long way to go.  If you consider a delusional illiterate your leader, oh you have a long long way to go. 
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Allah loves to lick my nuts when I cum in his asshole.
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4:57 That's the attack on the replicator homeworld, right? First Strike I think, awesome episode!
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It takes a lot of self-deception to maintain faith in the boxcutter fable of 911.  Boxcutters don't explosively remove all the steel columns required to allow buildings to fall at gravitation acceleration leaving behind pools of molten steel ... and perfectly intact passports of alleged culprits (cough). If government and media feed you lies without furnishing credible evidence (like WMDs in Iraq), and  you believe and propagate deadly Popular Delusions fed to you by established liars in the establishment, then (fool me twice, etc) you are on the same level as any other faith-based, witch-burning nutcase on crusade. Incidentally, in my 18 years of anti-theist activity online, I've never been harassed, threatened or defamed by Muslims for my anti-religious, hence anti-Islamic stance. Criticism of the supremacist cult of Judaism , on the other hand, attracts hordes of organized fanatics - much like criticism of the cult of scientology does.
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How long does it take for you to script, record and to upload a video to Youtube?
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As a muslim i agree that muslim countries are nearly all retarded and backwards as hell
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Thunderf00t, You ask the question as to why no one complains when you talk about other religions but do complain when you talk about Islam.  For that matter, why they will criticize other religions but not Islam.  The answer is obvious.  Islam is a hard target. Islam hits back. When other religions are criticized, they may rant and rave but they don't go and burn down an embassy or blow themselves up in a crowded market place. Most of these people are wimps. They only want to hit things that don't hit back, the soft target, and Islam hits back.  One of your critics talked about all the moderate Muslims who didn't like the radicals.  Really?  When was the last time there was a protest in a Muslim country supporting democracy, women's equal rights or denouncing radical Islam?  Can you say, 'NEVER'?  Don't tell me how peaceful most Muslims are until you (the Muslim community) start to protest and eliminate the radical & murderous segment of your religion.  Radical Muslims are dragging the middle east (and trying to do the same for the rest of the world) down a deep, dark rabbit hole where we would quickly end up in another dark age.  Look at history.  Progress has been strongest when religion has been weakest. Keep the videos coming Thunderf00t.  You might not always hit the target but you generally don't miss by much.  I have found your videos to be informative, interesting and thought provoking.
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Reasonable discussion and criticism is NOT hate speech. Hate speech is what religious people do, threatening people with violence and eternal torture.
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 The right to Happiness,  a Constitutional Principle,  is the  very thing the Atheist Authoritarian  Elite does not want people to experience.    They want to control the human conversation so that a one world empire can ensue , making  mere mortal men the gods on the planet .      Happiness is not a Scientific Rationale,  it is a  Human Rationale.     now  Science is not Nature,    but Atheists try to equivocate ,   And the Human is higher in reality than any Science,  because humans invented Science,   and only  humans can speak of knowledge offered in Science.    Letting a mere invention of humanity , Science , then ascend as a material god , to regulate what is the rationale of happiness,  is  Evil.     Now,  if people share a grand delusion,  as they claim, but are very happy,  ,  then the Atheists demand rationality to be taught, and as the happy people realize what the Atheists want to force upon them,  they become just as despondent and suicidal as the Atheists happen to be.  There is no doubt  Atheists commit suicide at the highest known rate,  next to homosexuals.    Perhaps the Atheists are the  insane motley cult.     They  don't like it , if other people find happiness,   living a religious life,   they want everyone to feel  absolutely certain as the Atheists are,  that life has no meaning ,and if you want to kill yourself,  you are reducing your carbon footprint,  which is a good deed. 
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+Munkee Rentch   That was the example Albert Einstein used to explain Relativity.  If you have no power,  and your hand is on the hot stove,   every second seems like you are in hell forever.     I am surprised you don't get it,    Time is relative to the perspective of the Observer.    If you are having a good time , time flies,  if you are suffering,  you are very conscious of every moment,  and time seems to drag.   Then  realization is a factor that contributes to the meaning of time itself.       Thus  you can prove there is a representative material fact   that is a parity to Hell.    When you feel the pain,  but you discover you have no power to save yourself,  then you are experiencing Hell .   Then  you are a true believer. 
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+Carmine Fr I've burnt my hand on a hot stove.  It most certainly did not fell like an eternity, nor did it feel like hell.  How can anything "feel" like something that doesn't exist?  Again, prove the existence of your hell before claiming it as fact.
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Wait I'm confused as to what your point is  whn you say "Mere haggling over the title" and "this would be rejected by any peer review journal etc" WHAT would be rejected? The fact that they were callin the movie one thing, then they chqnged the name? Or that they said they interviewed people they didn't...? I don't get it.....
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