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Split California Into Two States? (Liberal Vs Conservative)

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A Republican wants a chunk of Southern California to secede and become the 51st state. Ana Kasparian and comedian Jimmy Dore discuss if we should split the United States into a red country and a...

All schools private or charter; Sounds Good! :D Public school sucks, seriously, Every inch of it is infested with evil. Yes I've been to both. If liberals want their own miserable, stupid, lazy country ware schools are prisons of innocent children, Want mafia to grow without civilian defence, or militaristic defence Whare women have all the rights while males are discriminated against; whare black skin makes ypu immune to procecution, Whare religious institutions are forced to defy their beliefs, and are targeted by society And borrow billions spending on useless crap, Fine with me, just let me be in the logical half away from them,
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I'm sorry but wtf is whare?
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+E. Howard Hunt Nice job attacking the arguer, not the argument.  His opinion has now been totally invalidated.
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You people are crazy. States that grow and prosper are ran by REPUBLICANS
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Yeah, like Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana et al. LOLOL
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+NewWorldAhead You forgot Kansas. Samuel Brownback screwed the entire state over. Trickle down economics never work.
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Wow, I'm two minutes in, and I'm overjoyed. I can't believe a Liberal would actually like to try this!  I've been a proponent of the same thing for ages.  Here's my prediction: (1) Liberal states enjoy several months of "victory" celebration, while Conservative states enjoy massive investment from all corners of the world.  (2) Liberal states experience massive business emigration---and "refugee" immigration. (3) Liberal states run out of money and, naturally, nobody will lend them any. Not even George Soros. (4) Liberal states raise taxes to raise revenue.  Due to the vast majority of their citizens being on welfare, Liberals fail to raise revenue. (5) Liberal states beg for admission to the new Conservative country.  Conservatives, unsurprisingly, first demand adoption of Conservative policies. THEN, either: (a) Liberal states agree, and we finally have a healthy and prosperous country; or (b) Liberal states start another civil war, and are firmly stomped because barely any of their citizens own firearms, and even those who do will not fight. Please.  Bring it on.
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In a few decades Texas will be a blue state. people seem to forget that California used to be heavily conservative up until the last 30-40 years and the main reason why it turned Liberal was from the immigrants cuz in some places California is still really conservative. Texas right now is booming, more and more businesses, jobs, and immigrants are coming, Dallas county voted for Obama the last election, same with Houston and harris county and with more people and immigrants flooding in it will most definitely turn blue in a few decades
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Funny thing, Texas is Killing California in many ways, this is coming from a Californian, also Mexico it's Socialist, Canada it's also Socialist, it is funny how Canada and Mexico are years from the USA to do anything close to the USA
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I can't believe how stupid these people are, they have no idea what they are even talking about!
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i loved watching this because it shows how ignorant liberals are to conservative policies
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It amazes me how much the left misunderstands the right more than the other way around.
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You damn liberals forget that the best years we've ever had were in the '80's under Ronald Reagan.
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Help yourself to a fucking book you cum stain. Reagan's policies have driven this country mad.
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I really don't know much about politics...but these guys suck.seems like they just want to make fun of the competition
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I love seeing how badly informed liberals are
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What will it take to have liberals realize that their polices are wrong... a history book.
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I love seeing how badly informed liberals are
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The United States of America was BUILT on RIGHT WING IDEAS!!! obviously the conservative state would prosper..... its the reason why America became prosperous.
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Draper is attempting to split it up into 6 states
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I would like to say that most wealthy people going to be the conservative type so what makes you think that your liberal country will be able to so awesome I'll tell you right now rich people will move to where they can keep their money and send their kids to good schools and don't have to pay for people working the system cut they don't want to get a job I would love this split.... we could have all of our gun laws back oh with just one set by the constitution I'm pretty sure the left would fall really fast with out the money on the right
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He mentioned France where at certain times they tax you for like 75% of your income. Fucking moron.
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These to are so badly informed
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These to are so badly informed
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Ana should leave tyt and pursue a acting career
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In porn maybe. Have some sense drilled in to her.
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For a second, I thought these people were going to be more conservative then they start talking bullshit. These two are fucking morons. Right now, Texas is taking away CA jobs and tax payers and i am one of them. Tired of stupid CA gun laws and emissions laws since i like to mod my cars. Republican ideas are not all stupid but most democratic ones are. Stupid bitch and stupid cunt on this video.
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This fuckin moron Jimmy Dore is citing stereotypes that don't even exist except in cartoons. What a tool.
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These people are so obnoxious
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Why cant we be friends? We cant live without each other!
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Do these two realize how horrible their discussion was?
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If the nation did end up splitting with a conservative side and a liberal side, eventually, the liberals will run out of other peoples money.
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+Master Chief 566 actually supporting a increased in military, it not a Conservative thing, also per population China spends more money on their military, remember we have Nuclear power Carriers, wile China has ??????? we have super sonic Jet planes such is the XY, F-22, Black Bird, Falcon X, ETC... China has ????J9?????, We have NASA, and the Airforce, whom are leading in Robatics, Space exploration, and Technology, as China is ??????puting a Flag on the moon?????
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Notice how most of the borders are liberal ,yet the heartland is conservative. Says something doesn't it.
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California needs to be separated. 40 percent of the state is grossly misrepresented.
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Statistically, they do, they far outpace the blue states in terms of welfare recipients and generally *lose the gov't money*, red states pay less to the federal gov't than the federal gov't pays back; it's the more populous blue states that make up that difference.
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A Nation divided is a Nation destroyed
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hey jimmy go fuck yourself im from the south ur just a liberal pussy who never shot a gun u couldn't bait a hook or skin a buck o yeah lord forgive for my tongue how dare talk shit about the south u pussy ass liberal leave my country now
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She talks the biggest BS ever!!! She has no idea what conservatism is. Why don't you go to worker's paradise in Cuba! Lot closer than France.
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Bashing conservatives completely abolishes your liberal beliefs that everyone has their own free will. People have the choice to not belive in g-d , drugs and sex. but if a person tries to commit suicide you stop him correct? doent he or she have the option and free will to do die???
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Washington once said: "Do not let this nation split into two halves" guess what happened.
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You're better off leaving the states with their freedom... ...and getting the hell out of the sinking ship that is California.
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I have a better idea; let's just chuck the entire electoral college and elect by popular vote.
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In that case cut up Texas; Southern Texas is very democrat (near the Mexican border)... why don't Americans cut up states into counties for voting rather than voting by state
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I find it funny you felt the need to defend yourself so strongly. I was merely stating that i believe neither side is correct in this matter. Yes I had nothing better do, so i posted that comment. That makes me a gigantic tool who enjoys seeing others mad. That makes you just another pissed off person who is mad because I dont agree with their ideas about how to run a country. :)
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this is a very interesting topic, I would personally support secession of GOP states from the Union.... everyone would get what they want, blue states would have high taxes, supposedly good public services and overpaidpublic workers while red states would have what they want... but the best part of this is T-Mobile sponsorship... given that Young Turks are espousing left-wing anti-business bullshit it's really hypocritical that they are using corporate money to fund their own show, isn't it?
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The truth is, the 49% of American citizens, those who are least affluent, are either paying no taxes at all, or are taking in a profit from the U.S. tax system through regular benefits checks. I'm all for closing tax loopholes for the rich, for trust-fund babies, and penalizing wealthy tax dodgers (Warren Buffett). However, increasing taxation on productivity, thereby discouraging economic growth, is detrimental to any economic system.
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lol yeah let the republicans with there god and guns and low taxes lol in your blue usa whos gonna pay for all the welfare and illegals lol seriously is this show just made up of douches?
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Says the state that executes retarded people.
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Oh please, Democrats supporting better education?
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we do things conservatively in Texas and we are in much better shape than other states. these two people are ignorant jackasses. They could not be more liberally biased.
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Oh brother, and where would these rich people go with all their money. To Europe where it would be taxed at a higher rate? Buy islands in the bahamas/pacific? Who would protect them from poor people with guns? If all rich people left, the entire system would collapse and all their "wealth" would disappear with it as it is really only wealth on a spread sheet.
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People still believe that lie? Typical, well tell me something, if 9/11 is the reason were in Afghanistan, care to explain why we aren't out yet? The last I checked Osama was supposedly dead, so why are we still terrorizing civilians? But why am I asking you? you get your information from FOX and CNN,
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I don't hate on Liberals. I like to hear what both sides of the political spectrum have to say because both the Democrats and Republicans have come up with really great ideas for the country. But these two Liberals... are fucking morons...They completely hate on other side of the spectrum for their own beliefs and mocked them because they're more religious. How rude. This is why America is divided at the moment because of idiots like these two hating on other people for thier beliefs. Morons...
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Wealth that is created out of thin air, on paper you mean. The key to true wealth comes from producing actual things, something that China understands. It's ironic that a former communist state has an annual growth rate more than seven times as big as this "free market.. wealth generating machine" (as you put it). China managed to create such great wealth yet they are still a totalitarian state, go figure. There is nothing exceptional about the U.S., our success was an accident of history...
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No state or states have the right to secede from the Union.
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If this happened the Democratic country would fail you dumb cunt.
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This is so idiotic.... The country doesn't need to be split it just needs to become more focused on states and less focused on Federal Regulation. Then the states can make their own policies, and as a consequence the states with the most viable policies could influence their neighbors via example rather then force... The only National law should be the constitution... And then people could also vote with their feet. Whenever I hear conservatives or liberals talk about splitting... Idiots...
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Up here in the Northern Cascade Bioregion - We propose "Cascadia Republic" separate country including Vancouver British Columbia, Seattle, Portland and possibly as south as Eugene Oregon. Any further south we get into Jefferson State which is still part of the U.S. Being this far from Washington Dc and Ottawa our nations capitals wasn't meant to be. We feel disconnected.
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Why don't you put in quotations exactly which part of ANY of my comments you are replying to so I know where your half-witted clearly ill-driven comment came from slandering me for no obvious reason on a point I never made. MY point was that the whole discussion of splitting states and one side or the other being the clearly superior party or splitting the nation was stupid and redundant, and here you attack me as though that was the very point I made. Clearly your lump of gray matter is wasted.
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I asked you a question and you failed to answer, families of soldiers don't go by facts, they support them because it's their family, soldiers don't go by facts either, they do it because they're paid to. Give me some real facts please.
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There's a reason my family fled Sweden 100 years ago for freedom. If socialism is what you want, it's probably great to live in Sweden. I prefer freedom. I prefer being able to hold my gun, choose where my dollar goes, and practice my religion however I please. If you disagree, it's not because of a difference in opinion of what works, it's a difference of opinion in what we value.
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You piece of shit you would sell yourself for a handful of dollars! Just fuck off out of this country you fucking imbeciles!
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Wow you obviously need to realize what conservatives really believe in.
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liberal are not stupid they are fucking retarded
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u say that dont pay any taxes at all. What do you mean? Everyone pays taxes. Even a 5 year old at the candy store has to pay a sales tax.
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Wow The young turks are right, the rich are only paying a 35%to %50 percent tax rate it should be much hire so they wont hire new people or invest there money in the economy. Yes Its nice to see our wonderful government public schools do so well, Lord knows that if their were only private school they would have to try to offer the best education to compete for business.
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Liberals just live in their own little world. It's like listening to 8 year olds describing how nice life would be without adults.
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L if the country devides into to then all the rich the celebrity and otheir wealthy people move to the south then south part will prabably become the riches country in the world and the Obama dck suckers will be poor as he'll and prabably die off lol!
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are you fucking crazy? You'd split California just because of stupid god damn MONEY? WHY don't you stupid maggots just go and die you fucking piece of shit. Just fuck off! What the hell?! If you want people to be equally taxed or whatever the fuck makes you happy go live in Finland you damn retards.
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give back the states of mexico
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A lot of Europe's current problems are a result of bad government and a failed economic plan. The more control government has, the more money ends up in the pockets of crooked opportunists. Economic freedom, the retention of personal liberties, and strict limits on governmental powers rewards those who work hard and contribute in a capitalist system. People relying on the government always ends up as people "surprised" that most governments are corrupt and disconnected from reality.
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Yes, the people in those states receive more through state aid than they return in federal tax.
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First, noone's arguing for full on socialism, but instead a social democracy with a nice meld of the two systems. Countries like Finland and Sweden are great examples (called socialist by many conservatives) and consistently rate top 5 or 10 in the world for education, public institutions, private institutions, higher education, overall happiness, health, and overall economy. I'm not sure what else you want from a country. Do some reading. Maybe google "global competitiveness report 2012-13"
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Yeah, that was actually the post-war plan for the Confederacy, conquer Central America and create a tropical empire.
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1 huge problem with allowing the country to split. Those gun toating hicks would attack Mexico.
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Nobody has said that healthcare should be free, however that it should be public and therefore paid by taxes. I understand the other sides arguement but the results and risks of not having public healthcare invalidates it. There's just too much at stake
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No body likes LA county anyway
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European countries tax the wealthy and are doing pretty fine.
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Maybe these liberal idiots should have done some research, look at unemployment rates in Red vs Blue States. Maybe if the were knowledgeable enough to do this, they would still be on TV not reduced to making shitty web videos.
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Californians IQ's are about less than the average American nigger.
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I think its funny that people complain about libertarians being extreme when it is they that suggest these peculiar bipolar false dichotomies... I don't want 50 sovereign nations, and I don't want a giant Federal Government serving as a means to undermine individual states and forcing them to comply to the majorities, including those THAT DONT EVEN LIVE IN THOSE STATES, for their own gain. I suggest a common military, common trade, currency, and a constitution, and free states. Amazing concept.
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Bush was born in Connecticut but raised in Texas, I never said all the crazies are in the south. There are wingnuts everywhere. If we were to split all of you people would move to states that chose to secede. The war in Afghanistan is result of the attack on 9/11 and Obama has pulled our troops out of Iraq.
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theres no such thing as a "conservative california"! Thats an OXYMORON! Thats like there being a liberal texas. All of California is gay hippie treehugging gungrabbing abortionloving dopesmoking LIBERALS!
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Really how do you figure that Red states take money from federal government. I know they take money yes but you seem to imply they take a ton more then blue states.
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They would be eating each other in a month
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No you'll be bankrupt as eventually you'd get rid of taxes altogether!
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This video is so full of false dichotomy.
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first give californea bach to mexico greengos stupids
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Skinning a animal not to be proud of ? How do you think your ancestors survived?
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there would be no wealthy people on the liberal side because they would just move to the conservative side... splitting the union, great idea.
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What a retarded channel, those 2 don't even know what is actually going on in the US. Or should I say the "Right" Those 2 are mindless sheep, very simple minded and thus will continue their retardation, retarding their children, and voting for retarded liberals. These 2 are ignorant of reality.. I'm literally leaving T-mobile now! Have fun in your Liberal nation, you will run out of money to take and your "green" efforts will prove useless etc, it will look like Detroit! while Texas is rich!
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But it isn't.. Look at other countries and learn from their accomplishments
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Youd have to keep splitting it up every generation as they develop there idealogies or make it easy to move from one to the other country this would be a great expirement but on the long therm im not sure
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you mean 49% of ALL citizens in including children, the retired and the unemployed pay no tax or just 49% of the workforce? Who DOESNT pay any taxes? they pay sales tax on everything they buy, they pay the gas tax, they pay property tax, they pay beer tax, ect..... Theres not a person anywhere that hasnt paid at least a cent in taxes!
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