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Supercooperators: The mathematics of evolution, altruism and human behaviour

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Evolutionary biologist Martin Nowak and author Roger Highfield explain how cooperation and altruism fit into the larger evolutionary puzzle. Chaired by Jonathan Rowson.

The whole planet is in a big co-op cycle, even the universe is, technically speaking. Humans take the predatory and competitive nature of a small subset of life and construed it into "Eternal Competition is the law of existence". In truth, those predatory and competitive traits of life are only a small part of a larger co-op context, the ecosystem. Things take a dangerous and absurd turn when we apply social Darwinism (an unproven pseudoscience) to our capitalist socio-economic system and believe it to be immutable and a static point of reference to justify our behaviours, especially the negative behaviours. Sure cooperation might not stay forever, but we can definitely build a system (with science and technologies) that keeps it going with minimal human interventions. 
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Natural selection demands forgiveness, wow, I would love to see this data peer reviewed, would be great if its true. 
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I truly enjoyed consuming Mr. Martin Nowak and his team's aspects and synthesizing from the crossroads of mathematics and biology.
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I wanted to see more advanced mathematics.
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If the human body itself competes for resources instead of cooperating to keep the organism (you) alive, then some of our organs may actually out compete other organs, creating monopolies of nutrients, imagine what would happen to the organism if this is the case. 
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Competition organically will usually be the case of necessity, hence if sufficient nutrients and other such needs required by variations of cells with different functions are met, competition will not occur. Tumor cells are a great example of competition of our organic body. Example of competition being null if possiblle; our blood follows 1 direction if there are no interference, and various functions of blood will generally have a constant gradient in their many functions where gradients can be applied, such as the rate of exchange of oxygen and other such molecules. Many mammalian body attempts efficiency in equal distribution, or, distribution unequally dictated by necessity. Nonetheless, there are many examples of competition organically of the mammalian body from various diseases, and will usually end in death.
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Capitalism and the market are cancer and tumour, the dynamic duo that's killing the planet. But we treat them like healthy organs, haha. 
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Aren't they rather beating a dead horse; they knew all this in the 70s as emeplified by his Nowak's fellow oxford alumnus - Richard Dawkins. 
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Nowak and others have built on and further expanded the knowledge that Dawkins clarified and popularised in the 70s. Some of their work couldn't have been done without more modern computers than was available then - specifically evolutionary simulations.
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Oi sub. Cíntia de lá estou na área por aqui  um abraço, até outro dia.  
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25:49 >"Greece & Arab world, they punished people who cooperated." what the fuck!
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"Money/market" is ROOT of problems, how do we: 1. stop corruption caused by profit motive? 2. ensure everyone has minimum necessities? ANSWER 1. FREELY Share ALL resources & knowledge worldwide, NO more money/property 2. Use LATEST technology to create an ABUNDANCE of all our needs, NO more waste/theft 3. Automate/localize ALL production and distribution, NO more central control/wage slavery v=4Z9WVZddH9w
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charles darwin was the first person to come up with the idea that all life on earth is related and come from the same source???? are you fucking nuts???!!!??? what about the bible? darwin lead to eugenics which rejects the idea of the shared kinship of man whilst the bible said that all men are created equal.
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how does an evolution biologist believe in god? interesting...
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Chairman is clearly out of his depth.
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it hasn't started but looking at the comments i sure am thinking you are all retards already :)
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I have read a lot about these ideas, good to see them in a video. Science CAN be consulted as to morality, full stop.
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The Chairman had no clue what was going on. Totally missed the point
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@trulez Actually, I prayed and the Lord revealed to me the supernatural warfare that raged well before your earthly comment. Good try, though. ;{)
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@dontblockmedk I don't think "money/market" is the ROOT of our problems. Its human nature, or a lack of character 95% of us don't have that allows our natural acquisitive/greedy tendencies to drive our actions. The Venus Project sounds great and all but theories usually sound better than they turn out to be. Maybe in a few centuries it will be more feasible. Better technology and citizens with more character are needed. I say start with education. That will likely have a greater influence
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@Ga Please remember that love, compassion and sharing are also human nature and way more powerful than selfishness and greed, without the negative effects. The real point is BEHAVIOR is determined by environment. 'free market' requires greed and corruption to function. In a system of ABUNDANCE those bad behaviors become OBSOLETE because they provide no benefit? ie when all are fed no one steals food. Sharing, cooperation is the only prosperous future, also the most practical and natural.
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pink ties seem very popular these days. (behold guy on right)
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I finished reading Martin Nowak's book, Super Cooperators, a week ago. It was a real eye opener. I know that Dawkins has been fairly critical of Nowak's new theory of the value of super cooperation, BUT the scientific data seem to be with Nowak. EXCELLENT video! Thanks for uploading it.
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Looked at this crazy user's channel and they just copy-pasta these silly positings on videos.
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Very good - Big overlap with 'The Selfish Gene' though Dawkins generally dislikes the Group Selection mechanism as its easily invaded by other strategys
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Isn't this just the Nash Equalibrium in effect? That is, if I calculate that defecting has the highest gain, based the assumption that there is a 50/50 chance of my opponent picking cooperate/defect, it's reasonable to assume that my opponent will reach the same conclussion...leading us both to defect. So, now that we have both calculated that using a purely aggressive strategy will result in us both getting 0, we would see the best option as seeking a compromise and cooperating.
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@functionalist972 Hello, you must be Captain Obvious!
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Can some one link the paper that Martin was mentioning at the end. Lol, the anti social punishment work always makes me laugh.
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@danndan6 woah there... back up. don't attribute great scientific discoveries to the bible. darwin said ALL LIFE came from the same origin. the bible said ALL HUMANS came from the same two humans with seperate origins from other speices. darwin said desent with modification and natural selection. the bible just implies incest. also, darwin did not lead to eugenics. racist maniacs led to eugenics much like the maniac christians that tried to kill anyone not christian long before darwin existed.
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Is this the selection occurs at the population level and the same thing that is condemned by people like Richard Dawkins in the individual vs group selection debate?
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@Dtekkarrr In an environment of imperfect information, forgiving tit-for-tat is better than straight tit-for-tat (which itself is better than selfishness.) As more players shift from tit-for-tat to forgiving tit-for-tat, it pays to be even more forgiving than anybody else, until it gets to the point that so many players are being so forgiving that being selfish is the best strategy (taking advantage of everybody's forgiveness,) and the cycle starts over again.
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@danndan6 it's not so much that "all men are equal" but that all life on this planet has developed from the same one single cell. Darwin was the first to discover that, when everyone around him still thought the earth was 6500 years old and dinosaurs never existed.
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@Gameboob I agree-ish. I think that if we have a global crises in this generation (which we might given the state of the economy) then it will take another generation (or less) to change the way we think if people got in a similar mindset as the Venus Project. I know that this is a lot of ifs but I believe it is possible that some people alive today could live in a world where we work cooperatively towards the benefit of mankind. ps Capitalism is very inefficient. Sorry, I just had to say it ;)
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In before debate about religion and evolution.
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[Esperanto] Tiu ĉi estas sendube tre interesa temo. Tamen, estas demando, kiu estis farita al Novak, kiu ne kapablis respondi bone, miaopinie. Ĉu la kulaborado produktas ĉiam bonajn rezultojn? Ne, verŝajne, ĉar sufiĉas pensi pri la kunlaborado de malbonuloj. Eble la respondo povus esti, ke la kunlaborado de malbonuloj ne povas daŭri senlime. Sed, tio estis asertita eĉ pri la bona kunlaborado. Se iu konas kiel eliri el tiu ĉi problemo, tiam mi tre scivole aŭskultos!
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