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Lawrence is a Socialist - OK, please give up private property, send more of your money to the government, and wonder why things go to crap as they are in other socialist countries...
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As Americans, we are supposed to follow a course of Liberty...  socialism is cleptocratic and authoritarian by nature and always results in millions and millions of dead bodies.
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Yes... we can all observe what a dystopian, despotic, and bloody political landscape the poor people of Sweden must endure--with their longer life spans, free healthcare, weeks of paid vacation, and all of the other horrors of their "cleptocratic" and "authoritarian" system. Jesus Christ, what an idiot!
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Sweden has no diversity and strict immigration policy.  They actually have borders, language, and a culture.  You are comparing apples and oranges my man.  They do not have the economy, wealth, nor the prosperity that our country does.  Totally homogenous society.  These forms of gov only work in these types of groups and even then, they limit their people's liberty.  My life belongs to me.  I am not your slave.  Get over it.
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What did socialists use before candles? Electricity. 
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Lawrence O'Donnell is one of the "mere liberals" he denounces; he's definitely not a socialist.
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i like this socialist guy he skips through the bullshit and gets right to it
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Ban guns, launch big government programs which provide FREE health insurance for everybody by extreme tax increases on the rich (rich: making 100 K a year or more) & big business, ban the coal industry, take over the greedy banks, take over the oil industry & run it out of business in the name of global warming as we walk to work, ride bicycles or electric cars (if you can find a job).....here, here. My conservative, gun loving hunters & pick up truck with big block V8 engines pulling their big gas sucking boats would run O'Donnell so far out into the Atlantic Ocean screamin' "you red, you communist", you would never see him again. The sharks would get him. O'Donnell wants to jail Dick Chaney for torturing Muslims who murdered 3,000 Americans yet celebrate the love life of two men & yell "go boy go" as one slides his penis in the mouth of the other. I heard one of my gun collecting, hunt to you drop co-workers on his soap box at work yesterday about these MSNBC left wing gun banning socialists yesterday. 
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+Chris Hill +bob lackey Both of you appear to be ideologues who have nothing worthwhile to contribute to the discussion.
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Dont be stupid. Only an illiterate liberal can be an ideologue. Its impossible for a conserv to be an ideologue. Conservatives dont subscribe to impossible beliefs like liberals. Conservatives use human experience and historical evidence to create a way of life that benefits the most ppl. Only liberals subscribe to a these impossible beliefs. That is why liberalism is a religion. U dope
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How nice a gathering place for the toilet of America,the so called socialist.
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Socialist and ban all guns....how is the working class going defend itself against the capitalist class? He's just a "democratic socialist", or a left liberal. READ YOUR LENIN AND MARX!
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just lawrence trying to whore out for the dlc and keep the dems the repubs of the 90's
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Someone who hoards wealth, especially in the face on extreme, dehumanising poverty, can cal themselves a Socialist just because they believe it so? You, my good chimp, are a fucking dullard.
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Socalist are the saddest sacks of shit on earth. Liberals are terrible but socialist are fucking retarded. Their ideas always fail, and they always say ' oh well gov should do more, or if only we did this longer'' bullshit. Conservatives are barely better in that they understand what works, sadly they dont act on it. Libertarians who are the only ones who can get this government going again
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Unable to refute facts, you instead lie about what I said. I did not say "everyone on the right is racist." It's not "propaganda" if it's true, and the sick McCarthyism of calling anyone you disagree with "Communist" was discredited over 50 years ago. I do not believe ANYONE should be executed. Now, care to actually address what I REALLY said instead of making stuff up?
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you foreal? "israeli lenensraum" "evil lyin neocons" got any more shit to spew?
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Bullshit. You either don't know the meaning of the word, or are just lying on purpose. This right wing bullshit of "if you're a socialist, give all your money away! Ha ha ha!" is a stupid joke, and we all know it. This is about changing the SYSTEM, not about just about people with a conscience giving away all their stuff and those on the right with no conscience getting richer and richer. That doesn't help the poor AT ALL. CHANGING THE SYSTEM is what's needed.
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Most of Gen Y didn't live through the cold war and were born during or after the fall of the Soviet Union. These idiots have no idea about the realities of communism and socialism. They live in a fairy tale world just like all the people who bought communism before Russia, Cuba and China became communist countries.
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your a nutcase socialized healthcare helps nobody, destroys what was good, turns it to dust every question they ask "do you think they oughta repeal obamacare" "do you disapprove of obama's obamacare" gets 60-75% support EVERYTIME it just aint that popular sonny, aint constitutional neither
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Where on wikipedia moron? Look up "First man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine 1921-1923" by Dr Serbyn, one of the most foremost Russian historians. And if you're further interested, look up "Lenin and first communist revolutions" Vol V, VI & VII. LOLOL Somalia is capitalist? Hong Kong, Switzerland and Singapore are capitalist. Idiot. Scandinavian countries aren't socialist either. They have large welfare states but they are all capitalist MARKET economies. Bangladesh & Cuba are socialist. Idiot.
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TROTSKY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH FOOD RATIONING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE WAS A FUCKING GENERAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU KNOW NOTHING, AND WHEN I SAY NOTHING I MEAN NOTING!!!!!! ABOUT LEON TROTSKY. WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS THAT AFTER 2 MAJOR REVOLUTIONS, AND 2 MAJOR WARS, THERE IS GENERALLY AN ECONOMIC COLLAPSE WITCH BRINGS ABOUT A FAMINE.
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Whatever the case, just like Michael Moore capitalism has done well for the "socialist" worth $8 million. Wonder why the altruistic "socialist" isn't writing a check to charity or better yet his beloved IRS.
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It's the truth, do you know that they move palestinian farmers and replace them with jewish in some areas? That's why they won't respect palestinia or accept peace: That means they can stop doing lebensraum. With US they can do anything although the the rest of UN disagrees. Neocons hate middle easterners and they want to redraw the map, even right wing libertarians know this. But you're, I presum,e a pro republican neocon government cocsksucker who loves big military and imperialism?
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Lawrence thinks he is a socialist XD. This guy has never read any kind class analysis nor has he read any Marx.
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i didn't know if you knew, but THERE WAS A FUCKING CIVIL WAR GOING ON. what happened at that time was caused by having a civil war NOT lenin, or trotsky. also remember just a few years before that, there was a FUCKING WORLD WAR. and your saying that Trotsky, a man that traveled the whole Russian country side to bring the morale up for his troops is 100% at blame for this atrocity....FUCK YOU.
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Is this surprising? I mean... he is an MSNBC anchor... it's the network of ignorance. -_-
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Socialism is destroying Europe at the moment. Hope we are not that stupid.
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No, I'm saying what the Founding Fathers WROTE DOWN is very close to a libertarian belief. If you can find a better system than capitalism, I'm all ears. But saying you want something new and finding something better are two different things.
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Love Lawrence. He's so open with his affiliations and its great.
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Socialism: the collective ownership by all the people of the factories, mills, mines, railroads, land and all other instruments of production. Socialism means production to satisfy human needs, not, as under capitalism, for sale and profit. Socialism means direct control and management of the industries and social services by the workers through a democratic government based on their nationwide economic organization. the Soviet Union, Fascist Italy, and Nazi Germany were not socialistic.
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That's possibly the stupidest comment I've ever heard. Is there a certain income threshold in order to become a socialist? Is there a certain income threshold to become a conservative? If O'Donnell believes in socialism and accepts to participate in a socialistic system (out of the MSNBC crowd, it seems he has the least hypocrisy in his actions), then let him do so.
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You do know that every communist dictator that has ever existed has been wealthy. They just squandered all the money while their people starved
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That's like saying you can't be straight and for gay rights
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Ah now I get it! Obama WAS really popular because he supports UHC (Or he really doesn't, he's just a liar like Romney). But I guess Obama is not as popular as he was because he's not good at debating, plus that people realize that he is just another crony politician, status quo supportist just like any politicians that accepts bribes to keep their campaign going and get reelected. You buy elections today. So he WAS popular. Be sure to check out my first respons, this was the second! :P
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and like i said the famine of 1921 is not even considered a genocide, it was an accidental famine. but your a stupid American worshiping capitalist.
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We're talking about UHC, not specific countries, "jew" trash. Allmost entire Europe is doing well in population health, including South Korea and Japan and Canada and Australia (More or less capitalist countries, UHC isn't socialism, it's a SOCIAL POLICY), that South Korea and Japan has UHC is a testimony that it is a good Health Care system. Now compare THAT to Russia, China, America, North Korea, who doesn't have UHC, they're a fucking third world mess in population health.
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I actually gained a small amount of respect for Lawrence O'Donnell that he actually openly admits hes socialist unlike the rest of liberals who are but avoid that buzz word. Socialism is theoretically possible but its basically way way to easy to become corrupt. A dictatorship could be good if theres a great selfless and just ruler but a dictatorship is a terrible idea.
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i dont know which one i hate more, and i aint the type to hate but goddamn..... the yankee greenwald who hates southern democrats and any type of bipartisanness, or the rabid dog o'donnell who wants a communist revolution? greenwald probably
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It means a chance to develop all individual capacities and potentials within a free community of free individuals. Socialism does not mean government or state ownership. It does not mean a state bureaucracy as in the former Soviet Union or China, with the working class oppressed by a new bureaucratic class. It does not mean a closed party-run system without democratic rights. It does not mean nationalization, or labor-management boards, or state capitalism of any kind.
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What?!?!? This is what I am talking about. Take a deep breath and write what you are thinking, because you don't make any sense. As I said your all over the place, just like MSNBC.
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Hey fucktard I am talking about the Ukraine famine of 1921 not the one under Stalin in '32. Grab a history book for crying out loud you retarded commie. Did the Kronstadt massacre not take place either? You're a useful idiot who worships a mass murderer. Congrats. Idiot.
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The socialist experiment fails everywhere it's implemented. You eventually run out of money because their is no incentive to work. And no matter how you slice it, there will always be an elite class pulling the strings and fucking all you socialist puppets in the ass! BTW, I'm not rich, just a teacher schooling your ignorant ass!
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Lie. Being a socialist has nothing to do with being rich or not, he's not a "champagne socialist" that's a phony bullshit term. Socialism is about fighting to change the system, the economy to one based upon justice. Your lame Rush Limbaugh bullshit, "why don't you just give all your money away" does exactly ZERO to benefit the needy or fix the problem long term.
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That is why I love @Lawrence O'Donnell! @lawrence, you rock!
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If the government didn't want it as limited as possible, why would they set it up so the states have so many rights? Wouldn't they give most of the power to the federal government? They had just suffered under England's heavy handed government. Why would they want to be controlled under a new government? Again, what historian would tell you differently????
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Okay so you're a "jew trash", I doubt you are you're, just lying because you think I'm political correct. You're still uneducated. You haven't answered any questions, you never make any counter argument but always rant about how a bad presidetn Obama is and NEVER questions anything the other side does, while I keep on making superior arguments that there aren't really any difference between democrats nd republicans, just superficial. You ignore that completely because of ignorance in politics.
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"Is there a certain income threshold in order to become a socialist?" Yes, there is. I'd say it's any Democrat who makes over $100K and wants elitism.
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none of those news personnel would be making 1000,000s any more if socialism was enacted. Try maybe 1000s knock off three zereos
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The most greedy and selfish thing in the world is wanting to take someone elses money that they've worked for.and give it to themselves.... Which is also stealing. Which is what you want to do. Funny how whenever the left talks of "compassion and sharing" its always 100% of the time group A giving their belongings away to group B. regardless, your socialism is nothing new and have been tried in countless countries and all don't work. The facts of history > emotional feeling
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He's saying that if he's a true socialist, he would divide his money up evenly with everyone else.
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So you say that if you call Americans ignorant = you hate America. Have you ever considered that almost everybody wants america to be dong well, we just have different ideas on what must be done in order for it to do well? For example if everybody was socialist and you call Americans because of this "ignorant"; does this mean you hate America? Sigh, mindless pro bank, pro washington pro estalishment dumb republicans. You really want to be rebels, but you're just pro establishment
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They will be subject to removal at any time that a majority of those who elected them decide it is necessary. Such a system would make possible the fullest democracy and freedom. It would be a society based on the most primary freedom: economic freedom. For individuals, socialism means an end to economic insecurity and exploitation. It means workers cease to be commodities bought and sold on the labor market and forced to work as appendages to tools owned by someone else.
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First off, you can shove "if you want to live in Cuba" right up your ass. It's a typical comment, and the sleaziest bullshit imaginable, it proves you just don't get it. I am not a socialist because I want to live in a socialist society for myself. See, SOME people have a thing called a conscience, you'll want to look that word up. It's about caring about OTHER PEOPLE. Rather than ignoring the hundreds of thousands killed by poverty every year in this nation, I want to fix the problem.
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They aren't kicked out of hospitals; that is a myth. And the reason our country is strong is that we don't have idiot politicians that can rewrite the laws whenever they feel fit. Freedom of speech is obsolete? Sounds like you're doing a lot of that right now.
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first, Bangladesh has Walmart factories you fucking moron. second if you look up first man made famine the first page is for the famine of 1921, but the second page is for the famine of 1932, fucking moron. third, Somalia has no government, and no taxes 100% free market. and Scandinavian countries are socialist, if you go by the definition of Karl Marx. (progressive tax system etc.)
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O'Donnell wants to fight the kid..too bad the son cannot beat the hell out of him
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Liberals never run on a platform of true socialism. But when they are able to effectively socialize a portion of the economy they will use every socialist argument in the book to challenge those who suggest adjusting things even slightly back in the free market direction.
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Actually the Chinese Communist oligarchy has pretty much endorsed crony supercapitalism. The powers that be, both here and abroad, will endorse whatever keeps them in power. Jews make more than half of the donations to the Democratic Party, and similar amounts to individual Democratic campaigns, so that is why we fight wars for Israel no matter which party is in power.
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Odonnel does't bring any value to any discussion.
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ok, vladimir lenin died 1924....ok so that means that stalin was in power during the ukraine famine (1932-1933)......ok and trotsky was losing power.....ok FUCKING MORON
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Yeah, but you did NOT debunk it, LIAR!! The connections are PROVEN, and one stat doesn't change that. There is MASSIVE poverty in California, being "the richest state" is WORTHLESS because most of that wealth is in the hands of a TINY number of people. The schools are badly underfunded, services for the needy are being gutted every day, and this DOES affect crime directly. NOTHING I've advocated for "fails," the greed you're shilling for has failed, and killed millions.
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Suck my cock and lick my balls capitalist cocksucker.
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while Europe is moving away from socialism, we are moving toward it for whatever reason; socialism in Europe reached its peak in the 70s
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Socialism is NOT about redistribution of wealth. It's about redistributing the control over the means of production.
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Socialism? No government in northern Europe owns the means of production. Even Cato and Heritage rate scandinavians as pro-business countries.
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Once again, unable to deal with what I REALLY said, you just make stuff up. NO, I do not believe "most people want anarchy." The problem is "states rights" was the battle cry for things that DID violate constitutional rights. They violated (and continue to violate) constitutional rights of black people wanting to vote, of people wanting equality and civil rights. Government's not causing the trouble, corporations and greed are, and limiting them BENEFITS the people.
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"White Uneducated Trash" those are fighting words! I am an American Jew, and my family has detected it's life to bettering both America and Israel. You asked a question I answered it. You don't like the answer we talk about it. With out a Strong America or a Strong American Leader this is what happens, the world suffers!!!!
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So everyone on the right is a racist?? Good god, you sound like a propaganda machine for revolutionary communists. Should everyone who has a different opinion than you be executed?
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Liberals and socialists are not advocating big government. They are advocating protecting people from the greed of corporations and looking out for one another by giving people money that don't make enough to survive and are working. It's what Jesus preached. And also, taxes redistribute money so what you're saying is we should have no taxes and we should "starve the beast" and destroy government and "leave it up to the states".
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Wow, if you think that socialism provides better results than capitalism, they surely you don't know anything about the history of the US. The founding fathers hated, HATED big government and set it up to be as limited as possible. Where did you learn your history, from sugar packets???????
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O'Donnell makes european conservatives look like neo cons.
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It means a complete end to all capitalist social relations.
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Fuck you bitch. Keep sucking my cock harder bitch and I will ejaculate one in your face and then you can swallow all the good stuff that is dripping down your chin.
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I don't support Obama, Obama is a conservative neo"liberal" shithead, more conservative than JFK and Clinton (And conservatives never called them "commies" or asked for their birth certificate becuase they were white). Not much will change if blacks and latinos becomes a majority, the elite have too much power in "money equals free speech" america. White, south american, black, you're all peasants to them, democrats and repubs love this elite. You live in a shitty oligarchy, lol.
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obamacare is THE MOST unpopular bill ever to become law in america for generations popular? you livin on mars or sumthin?
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I'll grant O'Donnell this he recognizes that the only way the Dems got a majority was because they supported blue dog democrats, he also recognizes what this ignorant "mere liberal" doesn't is that the Blue Dogs committed political suicide by supporting the most liberal agenda we have ever had in our history; this douchebag thinks that the Dems lost in 2010 because "they weren't liberal enough"
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Lie. There's nothing "natural" about a few people hoarding obscene wealth as hundreds of thousands are killed by poverty in the wealthiest nation in human history. That's not just "emotion," it's logic. Crime will plummet with poverty reduced, we will have a healthier society, with education a true right for all we have a massive increase in discovery, scientific advancement, the arts, a better life for ALL. That's not just "emotion."
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So he is a rich socialist ? thats new
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Socialism and communism are beautiful systems, in theory. But due to human nature, they will never work in practise, as scum always rises to the top. However, if O'Donnell really believes in socialism, he could start by redistributing his OWN wealth to the poor and live modestly himself. The fact that he doesn't says it all.
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I don't "think" it does, it does. And I know history EXTREMELY well. Your Glen Beck bullshit about "The founders hated government" insults the founders who STARTED this government, and you call "big government" that which actually gives power to the PEOPLE instead of the wealthy few and the corporations and military. The founders DID NOT want government "as limited as possible," That's a bald-faced lie. I learned history from HISTORIANS, not hate radio propaganda.
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This is why he's awesome, but I disagree with him on guns
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That theory has been debunked before. The poorest state is west Virginia but yet they rank 39th in crime. Poverty is not linked with crime. Its linked with race and listen to yourself we live in the most advance scientific society on earth and your acting like we're Somalia or something. Why do you think South Africa became the murder and rape capitol after Apartheid? Wealthiest on the continen. its so easy to debunk Leftism
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everyone knows this it aint popular, it aint popular in alabama, it aint popular in carolina, it aint popular in pennsylvanya, it aint popular in dakota, it aint popular in california even it just aint, this's well known the fact that we're not part of these socialistic parasite country's is typical of America, we are almost always diffrent to them we have the death penalty, we have justice, state's rights, gun laws, anti-abortion the USA is the ONLY right wing country on the planet
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Hey look another self proclaimed commie/Trotskyist who has no idea about history. We are talking about Red Terror under Lenin, not Stalin. Why don't you go look up War Communism, Kronstadt massacre, Lenin's Red Terror, Bolshevik food requisitions which caused Ukraine famine that killed 5 million etc. All carried out under the able leadership of Trotsky and his Red Army. Idiot.
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Europe is the equivalent of an exotic dancer's mouth. The teeth in front look fine, but there are some serious issues in the back.
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Absolute crap. The founders would be disgusted by Libertarians, who attack and slur the government our founders brilliantly set up. Socialism is VASTLY better than capitalism. We have the wealthiest nation in human history, and poverty is killing hundreds of thousands of people here every year. We have obscene wealth for a few, while schools are underfunded and full time workers are in poverty. MILLIONS of children don't have enough to eat. Capitalism is a massive failure by every measure.
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