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Bill Nye: Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children

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@Coruptard I can't post here anymore? Best you stick with your biblical reality of cockatrices, human faced locusts, satyrs, seraphim, lion men, goat men, giants, ghosts, zombies, witches, sea serpents, angels, demons and talking animals.
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"The entire creationist program includes little more than a rhetorical attempt to falsify evolution by presenting supposed contradictions among its supporters. Their brand of creationism, they claim, is "scientific" because it follows the Popperian model in trying to demolish evolution. Yet Popper's argument must apply in both directions. One does not become a scientist by the simple act of trying to falsify a rival and truly scientific system; one has to present an alternative system that also meets Popper's criterion — it too must be falsifiable in principle." (SJ Gould) So here's the challenge for creationists - explain the mechanics of their alternative model of cataclysmic creation and what evidence could falsify it. Otherwise, it will remain nothing more than unfounded conjecture, defended by dishonest zealots and impostors in a last-ditch, real-guard action consisting of irrelevant complaints and distortions.
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It's easy to laugh at these religious trolls and countless sock-puppets who are driven by the need for revenge against their superiors, but let's not forget that these three or four poor sad people may be in positions of responsibility - a cab driver taking you home alone late at night, a dentist watching you drugged and unconscious in his chair, a burger-flipper wth or without a face mask and hair-net, an optometrist telling you you need to buy his $1000 spectacles, or a PC repairman installing god-knows-what on your child's laptop. Let us be nice to these guys, for our own safety, in case these Christians blur the lines between internet and real-life.
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+Atharkas Do you like sex with men? Is that why you don't like the Bible? Obviously.
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+Owen Atkins Based on your website, you should ask this about yourself Owen. And isn't it strange how you link hatred of the bible with homosexuality when one of the main characters in it was in an homosexual relationship?
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On Saturday, I head to Death Valley, California with my spring undergraduate class. Evidence for a protracted history (more than one billion years) is wholly incompatible with YEC beliefs. Yet no creationist has taken up my standing offer to test those beliefs against the rocks. And that in a nutshell is what is wrong with religious faith. https://vimeo.com/102055931
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+Tim Welch Tim: You are being a little dense. I did way better than telling you how I 'arrived at these figures'. I provided you with specific citations in the scientific literature. Pop the doi into Google, et voilà!
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Gaxlock seems to forget how nearly 7 million have seen Bill's message and liked it 118k to 21k, nearly 6 to 1. He forgets details like the National Academy of Science being 93% atheist, or the rise of the religiously non-affiliated ("nones" - atheists, agnostics, deists...) in the US to nearly 23%, while the number of science-denying evangelicals continue to diminish (-2% according to Pew) every year. Reason and logic demand extraordinary evidence for extraordinary claims like of the (literal) bible god - but there is none.
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+Fuzzo Frizzbeebot Right-wing played the religious card too hard and cut taxes for the rich batches, the arrogant elite mentors of conservatism need your gullibility.
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If only those who demand evidence for evolution would shine even a fraction of their skepticism on their own mythological beliefs, they may actually find they are quite wrong. Of course this never happens. The obvious bias and double standards employed by the resident creationists here never ceases to amaze me! Perhaps even more amazing is there blindness to it. The mountains of evidence for evolution is not enough, and this is because of course evidence is not important to these people. They pick and choose when to apply it and how it is applied.  At the end of the day, God apparently needed to sacrifice himself to appease himself and save humanity from himself. Makes sense...
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+Zaki Aminu  "When you look behind the rhetoric and examine the meta-language...." Whose? Theists? Apologists? Your dancing? Given your failures to grasp even basic linguistics [you do so detest linguistics don't you Edd?] and blindness to logical fallacies 101, why should your "examinations" be taken seriously? I mean take your paradoxical masterpiece "NOTHINGNESS IS NON-EXISTENCE" For the benefit of everyone reading, that little dance and  Edd's squirming can be enjoyed here: plus.google.com/u/0/b/105357787002235900971/105357787002235900971/posts/DjExKFJZ8qM "which atheists label "NOTHINGNESS"! " You say this like its a perjorative, Edd Is it not you who always demands the use of dictionary definitions? Full Definition of NON- 1:  not :  other than :  reverse of :  absence of 2:  of little or no consequence :  unimportant :  worthless 3:  lacking the usual especially positive characteristics of the thing specified  Full definition of IMMATERIAL from Merriam Webster's online dictionary       adjective im·ma·te·ri·al \ˌi-mə-ˈtir-ē-əl\ : not important or significant 1:  not consisting of matter :  incorporeal 2:  of no substantial consequence :  unimportant Full Definition of NOTHINGNESS from Merriam Webster's online dictionary : empty space : the state of being no longer seen, heard, or felt 1:  the quality or state of being nothing: as    a:  nonexistence   b:  utter insignificance   c:  death 2:  something insignificant or valueless 3:  void, emptiness When anyone uses the term "nothingness" you immediately start dancing and claim it exclusively adheres only to definition 1a and that Merriam Webster be damned for all it's other definitions. You think capitals and arrogance make your word games and sophistry any less obvious? Keep those teddies coming, Clown! You may now start spitting !
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+Tindting Just because you come from a family of apes doesn't mean the rest of us are like you, you dumb shit. LOL
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I'd like to thank GakLooks for coming around here to repeat the "all-loving" threat from yhwh/Jesus that if we don't love him he will put us into an eternal hell. Such a morally bankrupt dogma!
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+gsundiszno "Ass-raped monkey says what?" Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! Calm down, Tonto! Smoke a peace pipe, then choose your words carefully! People are reading what you're writing here, little injun boy! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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+gsundiszno One little, two little, three little injuns! Four little, five little, six little injuns! Seven little, eight little, nine little injuns! Ten little injun boys! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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The transporter chief's pick up line, "Haven't I beamed you somewhere before?"
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Why must he always suffer? :(
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I can be religious and still easily believe in evolution, and the Big Bang, and things like that.  Both religious and nonreligious people don't seem to understand that religion does not try to explain the origin of our species and of the universe. I completely trust all of our scientific theories and laws to the creation of everything.  Religion just tries to explain the MEANING behind it all.  It says stuff like, "Yeah, we're here, but why?  Yeah, we're here because of evolution, and the Big Bang, and gravity, etc., but WHY?"  It asks the spiritual and emotional reasons for our existence and what the universe means, not the SCIENTIFIC way in which it came into being.  And that cannot be proven or unproven.  That's the origin of faith.
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+Pwnd Fatty Fatkins Prince Goodrim conveniently neglects to mention that his God clearly hates his wonderful ant 'creations' too for He [sic] (no doubt to punish nasty formican kind for being so delightfully savage) also supposedly gave the world Ophiocordyceps unilateralis.
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+Zaki Aminu "Hahahahahahahahaha! I hear a Turkey Buzzard squawking! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!" Probably need to get the sound insulation in your padded cell checked out then, Edd. There's no squawking coming from here. Must be a Tring thing! "...."By the way "Deo-" and "Theo-" mean EXACTLY THE SAME THING! The differences are INSIGNIFICANT! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!" QED - Linguistics fails you again! Priceless!...." Hahahahahahahahaha! How about you explain the difference you think there is between the two then, Turkey Buzzard? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! What? The difference between "Exactly the same" and something with "differences"? Priceless ! Deism does not mean "EXACTLY THE SAME THING" as theism. On the other hand, the Latin "quinque" and the Greek "penta" DO mean EXACTLY the same thing. You don't  hear people walking round talking about 5-sided "quinquegons" though do you? Like your word "Deophobia" you also won't find the word "quinquegon" in your favourite dictionary.  "Hahahahahahahahahahaha! And, IN WHAT, lies this "irony", Turkey Buzzard? Hahahahahahahahahahaha!" Bwahahahahaha! And he layers more irony on top ! The feigned ignorance layered with an abject failure to see himself what his audience and others can see clearly ! Priceless, Edd. You're outdoing even yourself here ! "Hahahahahahahahahaha! A LION is NOT A PANTHER, Turkey Buzzard! Its' more accurately described as LEONINE! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!" A lion is not a panther? Bwahahahahahahahahaha! Listen Everyone.....Panthera Leo which belongs to the Linnaean Taxonomic Genus "Panthera" is apparently NOT a panther !!!!!!! (at least not in the Eddworld theme park, it seems).   "Anyway, you're just WAFFLING IDIOTICALLY now! You've HAD ENOUGH! Hahahahahahahahaha!" That cinema job's still hollering, Edd ! I just hope Linnaean Taxonomy and linguistics aren't on the list of interview questions ! Ha Ha. Hee Hee. Ho Ho... etc. What a clown !
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+Chocolate Covered Reason "....."Hahahahahahahahaha! I hear a Turkey Buzzard squawking! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!" Probably need to get the sound insulation in your padded cell checked out then, Edd. There's no squawking coming from here. Must be a Tring thing!...." Nah! It's DEFINITELY A TURKEY BUZZARD SQUAWKING! Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "...."By the way "Deo-" and "Theo-" mean EXACTLY THE SAME THING! The differences are INSIGNIFICANT! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!" QED - Linguistics fails you again! Priceless!...." Hahahahahahahahaha! How about you explain the difference you think there is between the two then, Turkey Buzzard? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! What? The difference between "Exactly the same" and something with "differences"? Priceless !....." Hahahahahahahahahaha! You're just WAFFLING IDIOTICALLY NOW! YOU SAID THERE WERE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN "Theo-" and "Deo-", didn't you? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! But, if you're withdrawing from that position, I welcome that! Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....Deism does not mean "EXACTLY THE SAME THING" as theism..." WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THEN? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "...On the other hand, the Latin "quinque" and the Greek "hexa" DO mean EXACTLY the same thing. You don't  hear people walking round talking about 5-sided "quinquegons" though do you? Like your word "Deophobia" you also won't find the word "quinquegon" in your favourite dictionary...." Hahahahahahahahahaha! WHAT HAS THIS TO DO WITH "Theo-" and "Deo-", Turkey Buzzard? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....."Hahahahahahahahahahaha! And, IN WHAT, lies this "irony", Turkey Buzzard? Hahahahahahahahahahaha!" Bwahahahahaha! And he layers more irony on top ! The feigned ignorance layered with an abject failure to see himself what his audience and others can see clearly ! Priceless, Edd. You're outdoing even yourself here !...." Hahahahahahahahahahaha! You've HAD ENOUGH, Turkey Buzzard! You're just FLAILING ABOUT now - INTELLECTUALLY PUNCH DRUNK! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....."Hahahahahahahahahaha! A LION is NOT A PANTHER, Turkey Buzzard! Its' more accurately described as LEONINE! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!" A lion is not a panther?..." No. Turkey Buzzard - IT'S NOT! DID YOU THINK IT WAS? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....Bwahahahahahahahahaha! Listen Everyone.....Panthera Leo which belongs to the Linnaean Taxonomic Genus "Panthera" is apparently NOT a panther !!!!!!! (at least not in the Eddworld theme park, it seems)...." Hahahahahahahahahaha! Turkey Buzzard, A LION IS NOT A PANTHER! Look up the definitions - IN ANY ENGLISH LANGUAGE DICTIONARY! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "......"Anyway, you're just WAFFLING IDIOTICALLY now! You've HAD ENOUGH! Hahahahahahahahaha!" That cinema job's still hollering, Edd ! I just hope Linnaean Taxonomy and linguistics aren't on the list of interview questions ! Ha Ha. Hee Hee. Ho Ho... etc. What a clown !" Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! You're trying DESPERATELY to SAVE FACE by raising a SMOKESCREEN OF VERBIAGE! A LION IS NOT A PANTHER - and THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "Theo-" and "Deo-"! These are FACTS! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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Creationists are indeed a great pack of ignoramuses.
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Good fillum from 1992 "La controverse de Valladolid" (The Valladolid Debate) about a fictionalized, but historically close Catholic Inquisition asking whether the enslaved Sth American natives had a soul, or whether they were created by God to be treated as animals. Turns out they were only animals. Who knew?
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+Alan Clarke   Obviously Al 19th century intelligence is way above your childlike level, what do you think "the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races" actually means. Really concentrate Al, remember this was written by the man that produced evidence that ALL men are of one equal species and he clearly states "civilized races of man" so what do you think "savage races" represents, it's not Homo sapiens is it mate, so what are the "savage races" that Charles is referring too? C'mon concentrate and show everyone that you're not really an "idiot". 
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+Alan Clarke "Turns out they were only animals. Don't evolutionists today consider humans to be primates which are "animals"?" Tu quoque, and irrelevant to the topic under discussion. The church and its morality-from-convenience was the topic, not that subset of people outside that shining holy white building of god.
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IS HUMAN EXISTENCE AN ACCIDENT? "If the solar system was brought about by an accidental collision, then the appearance of organic life on this planet was also an accident, and the whole evolution of Man was an accident too. If so, then all our thought processes are mere accidents — the accidental by-product of the movement of atoms. And this holds for the materialists and astronomers as well as for anyone else's. But if their thoughts — i.e. of Materialism and — are merely accidental by-products, why should we believe them to be true? I see no reason for believing that one accident should be able to give a correct account of all the other accidents." - C. S. Lewis
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+Alan Clarke what they modeled was data taken from the field. There results for the sizes of those fragments was replete with any and all initial post mortum effects.If only you would bother to read the stuff you post, idiot.
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+ExtantFrodo2 'If only you would bother to read the stuff you post-' Exactly what I kept bitching about.
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i challenge any Godless atheist to support the lies that they spread
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+andrzej2501 I to see hope for the future but also danger we must overcome. 
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It is no accident that every creationist posting comments is a science illiterate. Wherever you find someone who rejects evolution, there too you find someone with a cartoon understanding of science and a grasp of evolution that amounts to barbershop gossip. The Dunning-Kruger Effect ensures that those who are the most profoundly ignorant of science continue to reject evolution based on their cartoon understanding of science in general and evolution in particular.
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+Fallible Fiend Sadly for you, the people who get caught sucking cock are those like youthat are pro-gay and pro-evolution fanatics, not those aiming to stamp out your foul faggotry. Even an utterly mindless mong like you should be able to apprehend as much. [I am an eminent scientist.]
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"Algorithmic complexity fails to account for the observation that "different molecular structures may be functionally equivalent."   And indeed it does not. The question immediately raised by Szostack's point is how does the arrival of algorithmic complexity (long held to be dependent on an intelligence) compare to the evolvability of functional complexities (which arrive statistically, without intent or goal). The uninitiated generally fail to grasp the power of evolution and casually dismiss it as "impossible", but the evidence of our observation of nature and computer simulations show that evolution is inevitable rather than impossible.
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+Alan Clarke "it violates the "no free lunch" (NFL) theorem." Yeah because in computer terms environments are usually created rather than occurring naturally. Natural environments don't need to be created. Interestingly when you get your data from the real world evolutionary algorithms evolve to solve the challenges presented there as well. Note that Eas have been applied to FPGAs with no clock signal (That's right, no clock) and yet circuits evolve that could discriminate between different frequency tones.
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+ExtantFrodo2 There's no reverse to evolution. Only neutral or beneficial mutations accumulate. Mutations are not simply neutral or beneficial. There are near-neutral deleterious mutations which escape selective removal and accumulate, thus creating genetic damage. A large portion of deleterious mutations are too subtle to be selected out. This is acknowledged even by non-creationists: http://creation.com/genetic-entropy#endRef4
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Actually writing my last paper in Rhetoric class on the reasons why YEC fail to accept evolution. So yeah, all of you YEC people in the comment section really help me out in Ideas.
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Teach evolution in schools. We taught that the sun revolved around the earth until science proved otherwise. I had dinner with my my family recently and told them creation is both obvious and simple. I said intelligent conversations at a Golden Corral restaurant are not known to be products of exploding stars. No credible college teaches that cosmic forces have regular byproducts such as emotions like love and hate. Absence of proof is not proof of absence (meaning existence of God)This universe was created by a mysterious power which some choose to call God such as scientists like myself. Just because we see certain commonalities between animals such as eyes for seeing does not mean all animals have a common ancestor such as evolution suggests. It is also reasonable that God created all animals with common themes such as eyes to see etc. The earth is very old and that bible is full of a lot of fantastic fictional stories but do not let a book organized by king James hundreds of years ago distract you from God, and you purpose for existing. God bless America and Israel :-)
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+Ronald Caselman You: I had dinner with my my family recently and told them creation is both obvious and simple. Translation: Science is hard work and difficult to understand. I prefer a simple-minded explanation that doesn't make me flex my brain too much. You: Absence of proof is not proof of absence (meaning existence of God) Translation: I am such a doofus that purely on the basis of my desire to believe in a god - any god - I will accept as evidence for its existence a claim that nobody can disprove it. By the same token, I am therefore obligated to believe in unicorns, goblins, vampires, and The Flying Spaghetti Monster. You: This universe was created by a mysterious power which some choose to call God Translation: While every thinking person says "I don't know" when asked about the mysterious origin of something, I prefer to claim special knowledge behind this mystery, and coincidentally I happen to believe in the same thing that 99% of my similarly-ignorant neighbors also believe in. You: Just because we see certain commonalities between animals such as eyes for seeing does not mean all animals have a common ancestor such as evolution suggests. Translation: Even though there is a perfectly natural explanation for the evolution of life that doesn't involve magick, I prefer to believe in an explanation that might as well involve wizards waving magic wands to zap things into existence.
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"I am quite sure that our views on evolution would be very different had biologists studied genetics and natural selection before and not after most of them were convinced that evolution had occurred." — J. B. S. Haldane "Our ways of learning about the world are strongly influenced by the social preconceptions and biased modes of thinking that each scientist must apply to any problem. The stereotype of a fully rational and objective “scientific method”, with individual scientists as logical (and interchangeable) robots is self-serving mythology." - Stephen J. Gould "At this point, it is necessary to reveal a little inside information about how scientists work, something the textbooks don’t usually tell you. The fact is that scientists are not really as objective and dispassionate in their work as they would like you to think. Most scientists first get their ideas about how the world works not through rigorously logical processes but through hunches and wild guesses. As individuals, they often come to believe something to be true long before they assemble the hard evidence that will convince somebody else that it is. Motivated by faith in his own ideas and a desire for acceptance by his peers, a scientist will labor for years knowing in his heart that his theory is correct but devising experiment after experiment whose results he hopes will support his position." - Boyce Rensberger
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+Alan Clarke There is in fact a very great difference between our two camps in this regard, despite your tangentially relative "examples". As I mentioned, even if we are biased toward a materialistic philosophy by a complete lack of evidence for the magical or supernatural, the a priori research results can only be found from your side. They are all designed to demonstrate a "higher power", and even give it a name (Jahweh). If anyone devises an experiment that is actualy able to detect a God-presence, then you may have something to talk about. Till then, YOU guys wear the badge tha t screams the result. Own your position, for god's sake, and grow. up.
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+Alan Clarke "you are a creationist" Idiot. You however, are a poopy nyah-nyah. You may take that to the bank, wise guru.
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Dude, this is like the Adrian Peterson-story, just on a different level. Creationism & parenting are in no way related. Just because you've rationalized your faith down to nothing, doesn't give you the right to enter the homes of millions of people recruit their children to AGNOSTICISM. This is about RELIGION, or a lack thereof. Wanna be a scientist? Be a scientist. Unless you plan on parenting everyone's children FULL-TIME, leave the parenting to the parents.
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+Shaunise Ramos Strange that Bill never mentioned faith, agnosticism or religion. This isn't about all religion, it's about the segment of religious people who deny evolution - which is no more than half in the United States. Your parenting advice should be aimed at religious opponents of abortion: shouldn't they have to care for every unwanted baby they force to be born? You are free to ignore Bill's suggestion. Ignorance is bliss as they say.
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+Shaunise Ramos No-one is infringing upon your parental rights. Just don't lie to your kids about the theory of evolution. [The historical fact of evolution and the mechanisms by which it occurs are established by mountains of data, and universally accepted by academic scientists for that reason. Settled science. Not a matter of opinion or belief. I am a scientist.]
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"There is nothing wrong with not believing in evolution and it doesn't hold me back from anything U0001f602U0001f602U0001f602 [sic] i feel bad for people like this. All i can do it pray. The bible does not say how long it took for God to create the earth, 1 day could be a metaphor for 1 million years, who really know what happened? Evolution is also based on assumptions and no one was there so who is Bill Nye to say that Evolution for a fact is real. He needs to let people believe whatever they want and raise their children however they want. I don't shove my beliefs down his throat so why are these people beyond persistent to do that to us." The theory of evolution has nothing to do with belief. Rejecting evidence on the basis of beliefs for which there is no basis will hold you back every time. God didn't 'create' the Earth. Nothing about the way the natural world works has anything to do with divine intervention. The theory of evolution is based upon evidence, not assumptions. That evidence is overwhelming, and readily available to anyone who cares to look. Raising children to ignore evidence in favor of fairytales is child abuse. No-one is shoving beliefs down your throat. There is no belief in science.
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+Aguila701 His position (however personal) is supported by test results. These results don't inform as to whether people know more because they are atheists or are atheists because they know more, but the correlation is there.
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+ExtantFrodo2 Bingo, the implication arrow cannot be established or even if it is there.
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There is an explanation as to why so many of the most ignorant, fat-mouth creationists are simultaneously rabidly homophobic and graphically descriptive. http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/michigan-pastor-who-railed-against-same-sex-marriage-resigns-after-being-caught-seeking-men-on-grindr/
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Owen needs to learn when to shut up.
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+lordlandraid You need to learn to find a brain.
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So the United States is great because of the tech that came from evolution?? Lol Has anybody read the constitution? It says, We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness..... anybody notice the Creator part? God made man's mind free...and America was founded on these principles. How could you deny that?
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+Rockapulco So what? The Declaration of Independence (and not the Constitution, as was made painfully evident to you), is a wonderful document for statecraft even if it got that one item literally wrong. Figuratively, as that phrase was probably intended to be taken, you can replace it with "... that they are endowed at birth with certain unalienable rights..." and it would have carried the same weight without invoking an imaginary sky daddy. As for god making the mind free, your choice to become a serf in the kingdom of a sadistic sky monster is hardly indicative of a free mind, especially when you use your religion to bully others who don't happen to share your delusion.
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+Nicholas Christie-Blick Evidence can be interpreted many different ways to prove what you want to prove. I.e carbon dating. The exponential decay of carbon dating requires an initial value and so of course if I believe in an earth that is billions of years old I would pick an initial value that supports that. If you look at the "evidence" you will see that it is not what it seems. Again it's not reproducible, testable, or observable. Modern genetics proves evolution is impossible. Any mutation or adaptation is a loss of information not a gaining of information. It is impossible for one animal to gain information to become a different species. Morality does not come from civilization. Civilization is ever changing. Morality must come from something that is unchanging, God. Civilization bases its morals off of something not morals based on civilization. The Bible is full of sinners like me. Only one person is person was sinless ands that's Jesus Christ.
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+Eterniti Forum With that in mind, would you allow that the warning in Revelation about the beast sent by the devil, its mark, its number, and the consequences, MUST be of the highest importance? Yet you couldn't get two christians in all of christianity to agree what it all means. Is it reasonable to think that the warning can be safely ignored, or that your interpretation is probably good enough? If a life jacket came with operating instructions that most people couldn't understand, this could be problematic, not so? How do you reconcile this DIREST of warnings about end-times with the total lack of understanding of it meaning?
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+Eterniti Forum "Again your explanation saying that all species would be at the bottom assumes your theory to be true as a basis. It would make perfect sense that if all animals were created at the same time (or a few days apart) that the animals that lived longer would not be found at the bottom level."      Both these claims are so profoundly stupid and illogical it makes me cry that you think this is actually a good argument. It's almost like there's nothing but maggots up in your cranium controlling what you type into the comment box. But that would be insulting to maggots everywhere. Stop commenting. You are a plague to all intelligent beings who waste time trying to figure out how any human could be so stupid.     Unless you are doing it deliberately as some kind of horrid Poe.
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How to debunk the flawed theory of Darwinism.  The fossil records say NO!
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Darwin was a charlatan lol
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+Chris Nenshati No, Chris. He wasn't. He was among the most eminent scientists of the 19th century. Please. Take the trouble to find out what you are missing.
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If these scientist can solve the secrets of the universe of how things start up or even how matter existed in the first place then I say this is just their point of view. They show a bunch of theories and studies and they say that is truth, but what they actually do is sell an idea which they "THINK" are but really not actual events. Are we really foolish to believe them blindly just because they say so, and yet they failed to even answer the simplest logical question.
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+jlen gete You are not asked to "believe them blindly", but to consider their analysis of the evidence and do your very best to refute it.
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+jlen gete You appear not to grasp how or why science works. Planes fly. Medicines cure. How is that possible if science is no more than wild guesses or a 'point of view'?
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Prototype of evolutionist argument: [Insert comic book representation of how science works] [insert red herring] Creationism states [insert straw man] We actually observe [factual misrepresentation] Therefore [insert non sequitur]
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+Zaki Aminu Fallible Fatty can only speak for his favourite 'science' of faggotry.
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+Owen Atkins "Fallible Fatty can only speak for his favourite 'science' of faggotry." Hahahahahahahahahaha! The way atheists try to HIJACK science and make out it's their thing is too funny for words! Atheism has contributed ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to ANY FIELD OF HUMAN ENDEAVOUR! NOT ONE THING! It's ALL ABOUT OPPOSITION and GRATUITOUSLY SOWING DOUBT in feebler minds! It's all cleverly packaged, like the poisons in cigarettes, in the fanciful term "skepticism"! BUT IT'S JUST IGNORANT NONSENSE! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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Denial of evolution (as you call it), or Creation, is what the United States was founded on before anyone even knew about Darwin. By the way, Darwin is dead. So he either became nothing or he's burning in the hell that you say doesn't exist (I guess you'll find out when you die, huh, Bill?  If you were right, then you become nothing and it doesn't matter. If you were wrong, then your scientific butt has a rude awakening coming). Currently most scientists do not support a singularity popping out nowhere and banging into existence. However, a bunch of rocks coming together to form a planet, then an ooze/slush mixture creating life from nothing via "abiogenesis" (did you steal Genesis from the bible to make that word?) and that life being composed of different types of species altogether (humans, plants, birds, reptiles, insects, etc.) all existing at the same time...is an absurd belief with odds so large that the number would fit from here to the Moon. So basically you want kids to do the equivalent of the following: Look at a house and assume that it came together by itself. The glass cut itself and put itself into the wood to make windows, the boards nailed themselves together, the wood cut itself from trees, the concrete mixed itself...all by itself and accidentally happening in the middle of a forest of nothing but trees and dirt. Go tell a child that and see if they don't call you crazy. Is their reply of, "Someone built it. Houses are built" wrong? No. A contractor built it. Even a child knows that a house is far too complicated to just put itself together accidentally. In the same way...evolution and the universe coming about from a sketchy theory is rather absurd. A lot of scientists do believe in God for that reason; a creator. Makes a lot more sense that a being put something there and acted on it to cause a reaction when compared to something that complex banging into existence accidentally. So...if you don't like what the USA was founded on, get out of it. Find some little scientific community on an island somewhere and cling to that little assumption of yours. Eighty-three percent of Americans identify themselves as Christians. Most of the rest, 13 percent, have no religion. That leaves just 4 percent as adherents of all non-Christian religions combined — Jews, Muslims, Buddhists and a smattering of individual mentions. A comprehensive demographic study of more than 200 countries finds that there are 2.18 billion Christians of all ages around the world, representing nearly a third of the estimated 2010 global population of 6.9 billion. Do you really think that among that many people, that these ideas haven't been pondered already and cast out? Why would they cling to something that they didn't believe in if they didn't find it to be true and beneficial to them?
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+jmr1068204 No evidence? Just 40 years in scientific research. You are in deep denial, my friend.
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+jmr1068204 'So he either became nothing or he's burning in the hell-' Aaaaaaaannnnd careens straight into crazy... I'm just gonna tiptoe around this train wreck of a post and move on to some... other stuff that is most likely equally horrid and I.Q. stunting... 'About half of scientists currently do not agree with a singularity approach at all.' That's just wrong. It's a statement so blatantly false I don't even need to fact check it. 'Have you found the singularity origin?' Have you found God? At least the red shift of the galaxies around us proves they had to have been closer at one point. At least there's evidence that there must have been a point that the galaxies were all closer to each other. That's one step closer to a singularity and one step your 'God hypothesis' has yet to take. (I'm limiting it to 'red shifted galaxies' cause going down the laundry list and lengthy explanations in support of an expansion event is not worth my time or effort. Not with someone like you) 'Will it be found? No.' So you know for a fact that we will never determine the origin point? How the hell did you determine that, oh omnipotent one? 'Can we see it even with very long range telescopes? No.' Why would we still see it if it already occurred? Why would we still see the origin? That's like wanting to see a murder take place after it already happened. There's evidence left that shows what happened. You don't have to directly see the fucking event. '-and therefore do not even know the age of the universe-' Not gonna get too far into the mathematics involved, but it deals with distance of galaxies, their increasing distance over time, and extrapolation backwards based on that rate. I know you're completely foreign to this, but it's something called 'evidence'. '-and can only speculate about the age of the parts that can be seen using questionable methods at best' Oh please, do tell us how all dating methods fail and the Earth is only 6,000 years old. After you do that, please tell me why we find different radioactive particles at different states of decay. I need a good laugh.
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Evolution the big bullshit. Le stupide the Nicholas Blick the big idiot and the big bullshit. Andouille.
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Who is this +latrellfrasier or +latrellfrasier  who posted, and then retracted a comment? I don't suppose it's (sock) Bernie King's real account, is it?
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Fucking Darwin! You took Bill on the road to hell!!!
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Religious faith has nothing to do with these problems. I am firmly religious with my god and I stand by him with everything.  However, I am also a man of science and believe in such. The idea of creationism is that we were here in gods image, why would god put us against a world that is constantly changing and not allow us, animals, plants, or even cognitive thinking move forward and adapt to the new environment. As a believer of both creationism and evolution, god would not move/control the entire world so we may inhabit it. Life was given the ability to move on and continue forward as other factors that even he can't control affect our way of living. I have also been firmly kicked out of my house for standing by my belief, and I don't blame the entire religion because of a few bad nuts. It is simply those people who act in those ways that are annoying, maybe even irritating. People do have a right to believe what they want as do we so don't go about your life trying to convert people, allow it to just happen. I am with Bill Nye here when he references children, I would prefer to not have more single minded people out there. Maybe those parents can show both sides to the story and allow their own children to make there choices and educate themselves to the world.
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And yet ANOTHER fake account by Owen to discredit someone on this forum! Wow!
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+Owen Atkins The British are great allies and usually aren't foolish enough to spew puerile insults at Americans - that's why I know you are lying. Why do you hate your country? Your evident failure in life is not your country's fault, Melvin. 
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+ergonomover Egg on your face, ergonomong? I bet next time you'll think twice afore you blindly imbibe whatever bullshit your hero NCB spews. LOL
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Rationalism could not have won any more clearly. Notice there's no more talk on these forums about Noah's ark, Babel, kinds, tectonic plates, immutablitiy of species, the Cambrian radiation, moon dust, radiodating, archeopteryx, dinosaur burgers, Nephilim, Adam's rib or Napoleon riding a T-rex. All the fundies do now is create socks to flood forums to hide their humiliated red faces, and pulpit-prattle about a "first cause" and homosexuality as if they have the mortgage on these things. There's a big L on your forehead, fundies.
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+The Celestial Coffeepot If I have to explain a joke, I probably shouldn't say it in the first place. But I was bored.. I was trying a variation on the "Pellet with the poison is in the vessel with the pestle" (Danny Kaye) gag on Gary, because it's been so damn quiet around here. To do that I had to pretend to misunderstand his meaning. Youtube comments and deadpan humor don't mix well, I know.
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+Garish Belliferous Thass correck. My gun is a flintlock, but I notice that the fundie imposter has gone the extra yard and found a picture of an actual matchlock pistol. (They're quite rare, you know. Pistols and ancient matchlock thundersticks are centuries apart)
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I loved Bill Nyes show when I was a kid. Now, I just think he's an idiot.
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I see Gaxlock is disabling the "reply" feature. Why?
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+The Celestial Cofeepot how can anyone confirm what happened at the beginning of existence except the one who was there, God. Luckily he gave us the Bible to let us know the truth. I'm sorry. I think we are losing focus. What I do know is: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1) In The beginning was the word. And the word was with God and the word was God(John 1:1) All have sinned and fall short of Gods perfect standard (Romans 3:10) The wages of sin is death but the free gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ (Romans 6:23) God loved the world so much that he gave is only son to die on a cross that whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)
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+Eterniti Forum "but this data and observations are explained with evolution" There is only one way to continue with biological research, and that is by collecting the data. If we ASSUME an evolutionary model that we don't really accept as true, we may as well be lobotomized. Each minute detail of information gathered shows us which way to look next - you have no idea how a science backed by centuries of data depends on the information gathered. To claim it's being manipulated or that lobotomized characters from Alice's Wonderland are doing the research is ridiculous.
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+Eterniti Forum When was the last time you stormed into a high-performance auto workshop and told the mechanics they were making it all up? Why do you think you can do this to to highly trianed, highly intelligent career scientists?
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Your a fucken idiot! Evolution doesn't disprove God. Your trying to say that someone who believes in God cannot be a scientist or an engineer but yet %40 of scientist do believe that a God is behind everything. Your the shittiest and most closed minded "Scientists" I've ever waisted 4 minutes listening to. You say that in the years to come, God will be proven unnecessary and will be a dead idea but science only leans toward God and reinforces the idea. You old bastard your nothing but a played out hasbin, your the only idea that will be dead in the future.
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EVERY ATHEIST IS A DELUDED MORON WHO LITERALLY HAS NO IDEA ABOUT LIFE CHRISTIANITY IS MUCH SMARTER THAN ATHEISM
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+Atheism is irrational Isaac Newton believed in God. He also lived in the 17th century. Albert Einstein did not believe in a personal God. The beliefs of both gentlemen are irrelevant.
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+Atheism is irrational Why then is 0.2% of US prisoners atheist and 75% of US prisoners are Christans if atheist "LITERALLY HAS NO IDEA ABOUT LIFE" and "CHRISTIANITY IS MUCH SMARTER THAN ATHEISM"
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To those that believe the universe was created just 6000 years ago:  Now that we know there are estimated 100 billion galaxies in the visible universe.   How would you be able to fit all those galaxies in a space (sphere) of diameter 12,000 light-years?  Our Milky Way itself is estimated at 1M light-years across.
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I believe in God. I like to think that he didn't do all the creationism stuff. He just made the universe, and kinda left it there. Didn't make humans or life or anything. Just kinda said "This may be a cluster fuck now, but let's see how this plays out."
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If  want their children to be Creative and Persevering = Creationism. If  want their spoiled children, who always expect things happen without any rational effort = Evolution The rest is mimimi. - John Paul, Brazil.
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+João Paulo This is utter nonsense. Pick up a book, and discover for yourself what the theory of evolution is, and why it is universally accepted by academic scientists.
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The doofus below thinks that inherited traits are only useful for survival. He evidently forgets (or never knew, considering his stunted development?) the second half of the equation for evolutionary success - reproduction, and attracting mates. Hmmm - why might fish be colorful if that intense coloring makes them visible to predators and potential mates alike??? It is surprising that given his experience as a pompous peacock, that Owen "Goodrum" Atkins would not even hit upon this knowledge accidentally.
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+The Celestial Coffeepot  'Hmmm - why might fish be colorful if that intense coloring makes them visible to predators and potential mates alike???' Hmmm, I guess you didn't understand this part: 'There are many beautiful deep-sea fish that don’t need their bright and beautiful colors at all. Some of these fish live so far below the surface of the water that only a small amount of blue light reaches those depths. Where these fish live, everything always looks a very dim blue. Yet, some of these fish have incredibly bright coloration that they and their friends never see.' It's time to learn to read, you drooling illiterate.
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The doofus about whom this thread was originally started continues to fail by thinking that all fish have to follow the same standard for attracting mates - if one species is colorful to attract mates, then all species must be colorful to attract mates. Even in his drooling reply, he admits that when light (necessary to display this variety of colors) does not reach the depths for some fish wherein it would not be advantageous to develop bright color patterns, he continues to think that fish living in deep waters must develop bright colors to attract mates. This complete failure in understanding evolution is not really a surprise, coming from a former gay porn dealer who now claims to hold multiple PhDs.
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Fundamentalists are fucking insane. They will do anything to shoe horn their garbage, from telling mentally ill people that psychiatry is satanic and their schizophrenia can be healed by some pentecostal preacher praying in tounges m to telling people that evolution is a tool from the illuminati to make people atheists. Your fucking stupid . Not because you believe in god because I do to, but because your so convinced the bible is to be taken literally that you believe it should be the foundation of our laws and society. If their not out campaigning against gay marriage their doing something else to push our country back into the puritan times. Why can't evangelicals accept evolution ? Catholics can, Episcopalians and orthodox christians can. It's always he baptists, evangelicals qnd pentecostal that act this crazy and make christians look like morons
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+jay burnz Just because someone is convulsing on the floor does not mean they have the holy spirit How would you know whether someone had the Holy Spirit? What is your measuring stick for it? If one degraded sexual intercourse which God had ordained for marriage by speaking of it profanely (e.g. "fucking insane . . . Your fucking stupid . . ., etc.), would that be any kind of a disqualifier? If not, then maybe you should consider that "convulsing on the floor" isn't a disqualifying indicator for one having the Holy Spirit.
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+Alan Clarke What makes someone go to so much trouble trying to sound righteous and scholarly, yet talk so much utter pedantic crap? Jay burnz simply said writhing on the floor was not an indication of being overcome by the spirit, he didn't say it was a disqualification. A person who staggers as he walks is not necessarily drunk.
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He upchucks one phenomenal lie after another.  Why not?  I don't believe in Evolution because Jesus Christ was sent by God to be my substitute on the Cross and HE spoke of "Creation".  You Mr. Nye, telling me that my life and beliefs are inconsistent with what we see in the Universe, is from Satan.  My life was falling apart before I came to know Christ and HE is the ONLY reason things make any sense!  You ARE the one who lacks any REAL evidence of (D)evolution.  You are a front to my God, my Beloved Country that was FOUNDED on "In God we Trust", and my very sensibilities.  Your atheistic, anti-Christian teachings rip and tear at what every child has the natural right to, and that is to come to Jesus!  OH AND I RESENT AND I'M OFFENDED THAT MY TAX $$$ go to pay for YOUR godless teachings in public schools!
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+Wolfwredroses 77 "Oh  proof?  Mammoth FROZEN STIFF STANDING UP" This would not result from a global flood.
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+Wolfwredroses 77 As I said, my house too hangs on nothing. There is no lean against it. No pole from which it hangs. It sits on pillars like the earth.  Even if a deity created the universe, how is it ethical to think your sins can be forgiven by the punishment of an innocent person? Who but the victim of a crime has the right to grant forgiveness? How does torturing an innocent goat compensate the victim of your sins? Does it really matter whether the scapegoat is another person, an invisible god, or an actual goat? Who but an intellectually-lazy coward thinks vicarious redemption is morally acceptable? Christianity is absurd and immoral!
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+Nicholas Christie-Blick  stated: "After a while, I prefer to pull the plug on idiots with nothing but stupidity and insults to offer."  +gsundiszno  stated: "Is anyone else picking up on the latent homosexual message coming out of Zaki "little vicar licker" Aminu's syphilitic lips?"  +matchlockfun  stated: "Consciousness". Is one of those eternally decreasing circle paradoxes which caused the Oozlum bird to disappear up its own orifice."    +ergonomover  stated: "Christianity is a belief that once upon a time, a cosmic Jewish zombie sacrificed himself to himself to lift a curse that he put us when rib-lady convinced clay-man that the talking snake was right about the magic fruit.... "  Are these You Tubers next on your "pull the plug list," Mr. Christie-Blick?
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+Common Dissent You seem to be under the impression that Mr. Christie-Blick censors this channel. He does not. His actions have no effect on you what so ever. You can still read and reply to anyone that Christie-Blick has blocked. His block only involves himself. He is the only one that cannot read their comments anymore...
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IS HUMAN EXISTENCE AN ACCIDENT? Poisoning the Well. If one starts with the assumption that humanity is an accident, the fine tuning argument makes no sense since if we are an accident, no fine tuning was necessary. For the fine tuning argument to make any sense, one has to start with the assumption that humanity is not an accident but was purposely designed, which begs the question of a creator. But since the purpose of the argument is to prove that there is a god who created us, any such assumption renders the argument circular.
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+Owen Atkins So what other childhood traumas of yours are you planning on sharing with me? Because it sounds like you have daddy issues.
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If evolution is so concrete and imperical, why isn't it the Law of Evolution instead of the Theory of Evolution...hmmm
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+Nicholas Christie-Blick Yes, absolutely, I would agree with that. That's the most frustrating part for me.
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Owen, how do the last two posts you made help your position in any way?
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+Owen Atkins 'You are a brainless, sister-humping idiot-' I'm an only child...
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Bill nye is a freak. My school idolizes a guy with no knowledge. Our lady of fatima, Lourdes,stigmata, the incorruptible a. Evolution is fake. God is testing our faith. What about Isaac Newton. He was a creationist.
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No. I am a theistic evolutionist
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+alvin tervree So, you now accept Evolution and an old Earth. So are you accepting the science now because science is right or because your pastor told you it was?
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Is this supposed to be a teazer? Because it doesn't say anything except his opinion with no factual support. Some pretty strong claim here: "in another couple of centuries that world view, I'm sure, will be, it just won't exist." :-)
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+The Celestial Coffeepot I understand "tired" of negative comments. Apology accepted. I get tired of negative comments too so I don't blame you.
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+riza olaguer As you pointed out, there are many science videos on the web full of facts that back Bill Nye up. In a short 2m31seconds, Bill did manage to mention the fact of deep time and of dinosaur fossils. Life has changed a lot over a long time - the basic fact of evolution. As a popularizer, he did his job here; if you want more facts from Bill, check out his evolution debate vs creationist Ken Ham.
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Do actual scientists dissent from Darwinism? Consider the following statement: "We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged. There is scientific dissent from Darwinism. It deserves to be heard."  Now guess how many actual scientists could be enticed to sign it over a 10-year period. Why not? Scientists are supposed to be skeptical and to closely examine. But this fake piece of manufactured dissent backfired when only about 150 to 200 scientists - out of millions in relevant fields - signed on. NCSE contacted some, who admitted they actually were not very skeptical of natural selection. Then there is project Steve in honor of evolutionary biologist Stephen Jay Gould: 1367 PhD earth and life scientists name Steve (Stephan, Stephanie...) support the scientific theory of Darwinian evolution. Oops.
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+ergonomover There are no Creation Moments non-experts as I already told you. Your 'ad hominem' fallacies reveal that you have zero rebuttal to the scientific facts. Even your own 'evidence' is evidence of creation/ID that debunks mindless evolution! LMAO.
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+Owen Atkins Ah, then you can name one CM staff member who has a PhD in earth or life science? Please do so now (I won't be holding my breath).
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OOPS!!! NYE ASSUMES not believing in evolution is equal to "young earth" creationism! Young Earth creationists fail to understand the meaning of the languages the Bible was written in. In the old testament the word used for "day" is the Hebrew word "yohm" which literally means an indefinite period of time to be defined by context. English uses the word "day" the same way: "In my grandfather's day he use to...." So each creative "day" definitely could have lasted hundreds of millions of years.
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+Megadog  No, goat herders had no concept of the universe nor our galaxy, besides the Earth wasn't created with the universe, that happened 9 billion years later. To say the Earth existed 9 billion years before our sun is insane, to say that plants existed before our sun is insane, are you insane? 
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+Megadog These are trolls we are dealing with. You can tell because they keep regurgitating tired old falsehoods that have been repeatedly disproved. Namely, that the Bible somehow teaches plants came in to existence before the sun, when the very first creative day says "Let there be light", but "vegetation" isn't mentioned until day four. A five year old can see the simple reasoning, so they must be trolls simply repeating stupidity in an effort to get a reaction out of us. (2 Corinthians 4:3, 4) "If, in fact, the good news we declare is veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, among whom the god of this system of things (Satan) has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through."
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Womens Napkins typical contribution to this discussion 1. Copy and paste creationist garbage apologetics 2. Relate bullshit anecdotal stories as if they proved anything 3. Vomit Post self-loathing homophobic slurs, using exemplary christain patois
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+The Celestial Coffeepot Just when you think it isn't possible to be still more out of touch with reality ... well, there you are! Bizarre.
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+Owen Atkins Outrageous! Someone who believes in mud-man and rib-woman, talking snakes, and magical fruit, 900 year-old incestuous ship builders, walking dead, and conception without boinking is accusing an evidence-based point of view a being out of touch with reality. There you have it folks...
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Your ugly ass face is inappropriate for children but you don't see me complaining!
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Talks about adding value to a conversation, calls a great educator that seeks to enlighten young minds and get people curious about our natural world "ugly." Grow a fucking brain you insignificant faith driven fool.
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To all the Christians, just because people believe in Evolution doesn't mean they are athiest (I am religious and I believe in Evolution). To all the atheists, I have some good news, that not all Christians believe in ID/Creation (I'm not Christian, but have Christian friends who believe in Evolution). I take the Bible and its stories (like the flood) not to be taken literally like it was real, but more of a life lesson story and to teach.
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Fucking atheists are just... mental reatrds, ergono proves it
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No; evolution is not appropriate for children!
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Is it strange to say I believe in neither creationism or evolution but something in between? One seems overly unrealistic and the other seems inaccurate. Over the course of earth's history, the genetic code for any living thing can change its appearance, attributes, evolve it's structure but in the end millions of years ago, a dolphin was still a dolphin. Even related species such a s the difference between a domestic cat and a tiger still over it's entire genetic history, the two species have not magically changed into another species or animal. Humans are humans and were humans, apes were apes and are still apes. That is why Darwinism and creationism is a theory. They both simply cannot be proven. Something just doesn't add up..
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+Galaxy Bound Consider learning more about evolution from accredited science sources. In a few clicks, you can learn that modern dolphins, like all cetaceous animals, descended from land animals, their limbs, spines and breathing are similar to that of land animals, they have vestigial pelvic bones, because their ancestors had legs. Vestigial anatomical structures plus fossils and genetics point to dolphin ancestors entering the water 55 million years ago. The evidence for evolution is much more abundant and clear than you seem to think. Catastrophic creationism is only a hypothesis, and has no solid evidence; whereas the earth's protracted history (4.5 billion years) is well documented over multiple fields - biology, geology, paleontology, genetics. You are right about there having been no magical changes;  but humans are taxonomically classified as apes. Check out homo Erectus, homo Habilis, homo Heidelbergensis and Australopithecus and see if you can tell if they are human or not.
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+Galaxy Bound I recommend: Jerry A. Coyne, 2009, Why Evolution is True: Penguin, 282 p. Seriously. You need to become better informed.
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bill nye will go to a lost eternity when he dies if he does not repent and accept Jesus....so lets debate that you godless groupies afraid of truth...not empirical but absolute truth
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+greg watchman "well for one you are wrong again" No, sorry, but seeing shaped in a landmass like you did is just pareidolia. Nothing else. So not only is your "argument" debunked, but denying this like you do is being dishonest. "read my evidence on my blog proving the seal of creation" A blog not backed up with actual documentation is just your opinion as, as Zaki admitted before,your opinion aren't worth shit. "yet many people approx. 85% will see and confirm the imagery" No, only you. believe in your specific verion of your mythology's deity.
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+greg watchman Your evidence is not evidence but pattern seeking in random images. You see what you want to see. It is only an evidence for you being a religious loony. And where did you pull that 85% from? Your ass?
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I said it, and i will say it again, atheism is literally cancer for the mind and an insult to any thinking human being It takes blind faith to be an atheist, there is no evidence to support atheism, other than mindless yelling of "HAHAHAHAHAH SOCK ACCOUNT HAHAHAH SOCK ACCOUNT THIS GUY IS A SOCK ACCOUNT OG GAXLOCK, GAXLOCK IS THE ONLY ONE IN THE COMMENT SECTION, SOCK ACCOUNT" When in reality all i did was change my youtube name like 3 days ago and this is the only channel i post on with youtube, and the only channel i have Keep trying to make your self cry even harder ergono, we all know retards like you will turn to jesus when they start suffering :)
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+Gaxlock Again with the black-mail threats? Wow, must be wonderful that you have to threaten people to get them to join...... That ugly fact will probably cause you to DISABLE REPLIES!
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BY DEFINITION, NO PRODUCT CAN BE THE ORIGIN OF ALL ELSE - BECAUSE ALL PRODUCTS ARE PRECEDED BY THEIR PRODUCER! THEREFORE THE PRODUCER OF ALL ELSE CANNOT BE A PRODUCT, BUT MUST HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AND WILL ALWAYS BE! Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Atheists are happy to accept that - as long as this ORIGIN OF ALL ELSE is not said to be INTELLIGENT! THEY INSIST IT MUST BE COMPLETELY STUPID - i.e. JUST MATERIAL SUBSTANCE! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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I was just going to ease up on you. Apparently, like any theologian you prefer hostility over peace. You didnt answer the previous response.
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+Spencer Morgan "I was just going to ease up on you...." Please don't do me any favours! Hahahahahahahahahahaha! "...Apparently, like any theologian you prefer hostility over peace..." There is NO FELLOWSHIP between light and darkness! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! "...You didnt answer the previous response." I can't help it if you don't like my answers, can I? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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God made satan and lies so that the bad wheat would be weeded out from the good wheat. What we need are more truth seekers.
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+ergonomover Islam and atheism are crap. Next! 
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There is evidence of God's existence everywhere, but you choose to ignore it. How many here are scientists? And how many of you take what others tell you for granted? Can you prove that God doesn't exist? Finally, when you see a car you know that some one or something made it, why would it be any different with the Universe. I'm ending this debate before any of us says something we may regret. May God show you the truth.
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Where is this said proof? We don't ignore it, It does not exist. Logical fallacy, appeal to credibility. You say that sense we are not real scientists with degrees. Then we can't talk about science. I don't take any thing for granted. As for what creationists say. I know that their bullocks speech holds no water in reality. I can prove that your god does not exist. A car is a machine. Of course it was invented and made by a person. However, we do know how the Universe came to be and the various natural processes that did it. None of them speak of any god. There is no evidence supporting a god. That is why we don't believe it.
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Please give one example.
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Today's Creation Moment Owen Atkins creates numerous sock puppet accounts to thumb himself up with, thus making his zero-calorie posts seem superficially likeable. Those who are well aware of his tactics here on YouTube are unimpressed and can only look at them and shake their collective heads at Owen's feverish attempts to sound smarter than he actually is. Meanwhile, the DiscoToot continues to create straw men arguments of evolution which are so abysmally researched and displayed with half-truths and loaded language, it wouldn't be surprising if it made by someone to make Christians like Owen look bad.
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+mikecucuk Imbecile. Aren't you the one that posted that retarded comment? And, true to form, your idea of a pissing contest is merely aping me, you brainless idiot. Mikey (Monkey) see, Mikey (Monkey) do! LOL.
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+Owen Atkins If you have to explain the joke, it isn't funny. But speaking of apes as you often do, you just keep up those Unchristian monkeyshines, O Wielder of A Thousand Sock Puppets.
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Bill Nye disgusts me. He is one of the world's biggest and most antagonistic, confrontational, and condescending atheists, and refuses to accept any flaws in his argument. "Denial of evolution is unique to the United States" - forgetting about catholics in mexico and britain? Buddhism in asia? Judaism and Islam in the middle-east? "And that's largely because of the intellectual capital we have, the general understanding of science. When you have a portion of the population who doesn't believe in that, it holds everybody back."- Yet you believe in a theory that denies scientific laws? "I get people who claim they don't believe in evolution. My response is, why not?" - My response is, why should you? You're here to prove to us evolution is true- it's not our job to prove why it isn't. "Your world just becomes fantastically complicated when you don't believe in evolution. Here are these ancient dinosaur bones, or fossils. Here is, uh, radioactivity. Here are stars that are just like our star, but at different points in their life cycle." - Speaking of dinosaur bones, why not talk about the T-Rex bone geologists found back in the 80's? The bone still had soft tissue inside and the bone marrow was intact. If this was a multi-million year old dinosaur bone, these tissues would have been long broken down. "I say to the grown-ups out there, if you want to (believe in Creationism), that's fine. But don't make your kids do it, cause we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future, we need people that can- we need engineers, that can build stuff, solve problems." - So because people don't agree with you, they will be unproductive? Sounding like a teenage girl at the moment. "In a couple hundred centuries, that kind of world view, I'm sure, just won't exist." - Charles Darwin thought the same thing a few hundred years ago.
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"Red herring. The theory of evolution doesn't depend on watching it happen. Why don't you pick up a book, and discover for yourself what the theory of evolution is." Strawman #3. I never said it did. He previously mentioned that science is observable fact, so I asked if he'd ever observed evolution. Obviously, he hasn't. Your problem is that you don't understand what a scientific observation is. "And again no. The Big Bang doesn't violate the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. Don't you think that cosmologists (actual scientists) would have noticed if it did?" They have. That's one reason they are still futily attempting to make it work. Sorry. That's nonsense downloaded from a creationist website.
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Im not so sure how this vide is really that much against creationism. Creationism being the belief that God created the universe. I believe in God as well as deep time and evolution. Science can never disprove that God is responsible for the creation of the universe. It only answers the hows not the deep philosophical whys. Sure go ahead and teach students about the science we can observe, this really shouldn't be any problem for Christians.
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+ExtantFrodo2   It may be a door closed to us forever, we hope not. I, like you sit with Charles Darwin on this when he said, "It is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science."
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+Garish Belliferous I heard a good one yesterday. "Things are changing so fast that the guy who says something can't be done is often interrupted by someone who is doing it."
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One minute Nye is opposed to GMO's, then after meeting with the scientist at Monsanto, he all of the sudden changed his tune! Bill Nye: bought & paid for by the corporate suits at Monsanto!
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+ExtantFrodo2 Do you have an example or where Pesher has been shown to be wrong? Do you realize that what you are considering is akin to treating the "Da Vinci Code" as non-fiction? Aren't you skeptical of that kind of stuff? See http://creation.com/barbara-thiering-a-short-critique for a short critique on Barbara Thiering. If you don't trust that, then read what Wikipedia has to say: "James F. McGrath, an Associate Professor in the Religion and Philosophy department at Butler University in his 1996 review of the book states that Thiering's thesis lacks proof, and that she herself acknowledges that the pesher of the Revelation of St. John is her own composition." - Wikipedia "Barbara Thiering" I debated Professor McGrath (http://www.godofevolution.com/did-jesus-believe-in-a-six-day-creation-and-a-literal-adam) who is so far from early Biblical Christian theology that you would probably love him (compared to me) but not even he can take Barbara Thiering seriously. Wikipedia's assessment of Thiering gets even worse: In 1993 N. T. Wright, New Testament historian and former Bishop of Durham, wrote: "It is safe to say that no serious scholar has given this elaborate and fantastic theory any credence whatsoever. It is nearly ten years since it was published; the scholarly world has been able to take a good look at it: and the results are totally negative."
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+Alan Clarke "Do you realize that what you are considering is akin to treating the "Da Vinci Code" as non-fiction?" Yet another false claim from the frightened fundie. The Da Vinci code is popular fiction and is called so. The Pesher scroll is dated to the same origin as the Dead Sea scrolls it was found with. It is a serious study, and despite your pathetic attempted character assassination (by WIKIPEDIA no less!!) of one of its researchers, it remains yet to be disproven. One example of a wrong sustitutive code will do it, yet we don't have one yet. The scroll gives examples, for god's sake. If it's a fraud, it's a 2000 year old fraud. But given all your patheitic attempts at denial here, I'd say you're the likely fraud candidate.
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Another pompous materialist.
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+Jake Paul Jake, thank you for the clarification. With regard to looking to science for proof of God, I suppose that will never satisfy your quest, as you will never find graffiti in any galaxy proclaiming "God was here." I do believe that if one considers the mathematical underpinnings of astro physics, how exact and precise everything must be for the existence of life on earth, one could walk away believing in a higher intelligence behind it all...but, that is simply one's own perspective, not a given. For me, I look to the history of the Jewish people, including the centrality of the super small State of Israel in world affairs and crises, as proof that the God of the Bible (and not the Quran) is indeed the sovereign of world history. Every major milestone of Jewish history, including today's, was prophesied by the prophets of the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament thousands of years in advance. For me, that's the proof...but, I don't expect that to speak to everyone. Even the intensity, universality, and longevity of Anti-semitism, which I believe can only be explained metaphysically, is a proof (for me) of a both the existence of a spiritual world beyond this physical one, and that world's interface with this one.
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Anyone want to have a reasonable and two sided debated about this?
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+Daniel Butler 'which can mean 24 hours or a long finite period of time.' Yeah, that's not what I was talking about, so 'swing and a miss'. The main issue was the order in which things were done. The Beginning says it occurred in one way and Adam and Eve clearly states another. So, I ask again, which one is the real one? 'Also what kind of people (the apostles did this) would turn their back on their families, friends, religious leaders, and culture in order to follow some random guy?' Gullible, self-righteous assholes? I dunno. What kind of family would kick their 15 year old kid out of their house for being gay? 'Well if they followed Jesus everywhere and saw everything He did, they had eyewitness evidence and I find it hard to believe they could be fooled.' Again, you are acting like any of the stories are historical fact, yet ironically we can't find anything outside of the bible to confirm the stories. It's also odd that Jesus's story is uncomfortably similar to numerous messiahs that came before him.
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*********************************************************************************** "Biology is the study of complicated things that give the appearance of having been designed for a purpose."   -   Richard Dawkins,    The Blind Watchmaker  (1996)  p.1 *********************************************************************************** Well, IF THEY LOOK THAT WAY, THAT'S EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE THAT THEY'RE ARE INDEED DESIGNED FOR A PURPOSE, is it not? WHY DISTRUST THE EVIDENCE OF YOUR EYES? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! *********************************************************************************** Full Definition of EMPIRICAL 1 :  originating in or based on observation or experience <empirical data> 2 :  relying on experience or observation alone often without due regard for system and theory <an empirical basis for the theory> 3 :  capable of being verified or disproved by observation or experiment <empirical laws> 4 :  of or relating to empiricism *********************************************************************************** Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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Roflmao. Yes people. I really am roflmao. I tried. lmfao XD
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+HomeSkillenSLICE "Roflmao. Yes people. I really am roflmao. I tried. lmfao XD" You're a FAGGOT, aren't you? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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Yet another while has passed and not a single theist produced a single empirical evidence for their deity's existence. Meanwhile, more discoveries on the evolution of early Arthropods are made, evidence that social pressure eventually became more important than "survival of the fittest" for homo sapiens in the last few millenias and finally, the bone structure of the toes may lead to a better understanding of our bipedality arose after the speciation from our common ancestors with the pans.
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Something can't come from nothing. If there is nothing, How  can "something" switch "nothing" into "something" if there is "nothing" there in the first place? Please don't tell me you don't know... I've heard Bill Nye say that, and it makes him sound like he doesn't know what he's talking about.
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+LoneStarArcher 'The same can apply to you.' ... How? 'By you atheists saying you don't know, You are blowing hot air.' How is saying 'I don't have a way to answer this or any knowledge to answer it with' blowing hot air? How is acknowledging a lack of knowledge blowing hot air? By that standard you should always make shit up when you don't understand something. 'But if you don't even know what was before the big bang,  It's all nonsense if you don't have an explanation..' You don't need to understand the finite, intricate workings of how fire functions in order to be able to use it... Hell, we could take this claim all the way back and say 'because we don't know where the universe came from, we don't know how fire works'...Your claim is asinine... You don't have to answer every single friggin' question in order to have a view of something. In polar opposition to this, you don't have any answers for anything that you are capable of backing up, so by your own standards you don't have a leg to stand on at all. Maybe next time you could make a set of standards that doesn't completely destroy your own position when it's applied to you and then we can have a conversation.
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You either have 2 options, believe the earth was created in a 1 in literally infinite chance to make it liveable or you have faith in a creator, the way things are designed I think the 2nd choice is pretty obvious.
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+TheKingraptor724   God isn't bound by half a neuron either it seems. Err 85% of the Earth's surface isn't liveable to humans, you may have heard of oceans, polar ice caps and the tops of mountains with little oxygen. 78% of the Earth's vegetation is lethal to humans, perhaps Allah's plan was to drown, choke and poison us all to death in between giant comet impacts, what a great design.
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+TheKingraptor724 DNA does not contain information like a coded program. Its information is in biochemical form. Program codes are not written in biochemical form. LOL Also, no, if you go by the Bible you must accept all of it as truth. So yes, it does state that every thing in the known universe was made in 6 literal days a few thousand years ago. Even if that were true and he only added humans here 6,000 years ago. It still would not be true because humans evolved over a period of 6 million years from the common ancestor with chimps. Furthermore, your post is illogical. You state that you must either believe that the Earth was created in a 1 in literally infinite chance (which this entire belief goes against everything science says) or have faith in a creator. By the way, lack of acceptance of evolution theory is not required for it to be correct. Evolution theory is the greatest theory of all time. Scientific theories are the pinnacle of science. It explains natural phenomena and is prove correct. It incorporates facts, evidences, and laws. There is nothing greater in science than a theory. I do say lack of acceptance because there is no belief in science.
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The only god word that is true: "Fuck Logic"
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+Derp Fox "so...you do believe this all came from god then where did god came from?..." THE SOURCE OF ALL ELSE CANNOT BE A PRODUCT, dummy! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "...also that laugh, caps lock, and copypasting are already lunatic enough." Hahahahahahahahahahaha! You have a silly definition of "lunatic"! But then EVERYTHING about people who believe THE UNIVERSE IS MEANINGLESS AND PURPOSELESS is BOUND TO BE SILLY! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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I suspect that a great many people of the evolutionist faith are good, well-intentioned folk who acquired certain beliefs in childhood and in public schools, and never saw fit seriously to question those beliefs. When tolerance and respect are dressed up as “I won’t knock your beliefs if you don’t knock mine,” it is possible to maintain the lie that all beliefs are equally valid, no matter how obviously in conflict they are. Trolls, therefore, perform a remarkably useful service. By setting aside conventional deference to respect, they draw attention to the nuttiness upon which all atheism depends. When the only way to preserve faith in evolution is to ignore, deny, misrepresent or lie about what has been discovered through science, at stake is not one set of beliefs vs another. It is the entire edifice of irreligion that needs to be rejected.
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+AdrenalineAddict610 "....."BUT IF YOU DO HAVE GAPS IN YOUR WORLDVIEW, DON'T YOU THINK THEY NEED FILLING?" They do, but many points in our knowledge that had been gaps earlier were prior explained by gods...." Hahahahahahahahahahaha! DOES THAT, NECESSARILY, MAKE THOSE EXPLANATIONS WRONG? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "...Before we figured out how soundwaves and seismology worked, we thought things like thunder and earthquakes were acts of God...." WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY AREN'T NOW? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "...Even assuming the God of the Gaps argument is valid (which it isn't), it's a poor position to take as a theist since it relegates your all-powerful being to scientific leftovers...." Hahahahahahahahahaha! Basically, you're simply PLUGGING UP YOUR EARS AND YOUR MIND BECAUSE YOU'RE SCARED OF GIVING A FAIR HEARING TO THE THEISTIC ARGUMENT! YOU KNOW IF YOU DID THAT, YOU COULDN'T SUPPORT YOUR ATHEISTIC POSITION - AND COULDN'T JUSTIFY THE PRACTICE OF FAGGOTRY AND SIMILAR THINGS! Is this not so? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....Still no evidence of Genesis either. Not surprised." Hahahahahahahahahaha! Well, I can ONLY take a donkey to water - I can't make it drink! I can only present pictures of rainbows to a blind man - I can't make him see them! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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+Zaki Aminu "DOES THAT, NECESSARILY, MAKE THOSE EXPLANATIONS WRONG?" If you think thunder is God beating his hammer, please seek mental help or go back to 3rd grade. There is no way an adult can be this stupid. "YOU'RE SCARED OF GIVING A FAIR HEARING TO THE THEISTIC ARGUMENT!" No more than a chemist is scared of alchemists. Theists have a position that is not currently supported by any evidence. "I can ONLY take a donkey to water" So Genesis is proof of Genesis? You cannot cite the source material to prove the source material. I'm done with you, as you're not only too far out in the deep end, you're in the middle of the ocean by this point. If you cannot carry out an adult conversation, there is no point in talking to you.
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Lesson being: Creationists cannot become engineers or scientist. They cannot "build stuff, solve problems". Bill is being a fool.
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+Andrew Kwasek 'My problem is that Bill, and many others, say that an individual who believes in some sort of creation myth will not make a good doctor, engineer, voter, parent and is incapable of solving problems (of the political type as well as the sort an engineer would solve).' No. They aren't 'incapable', they're just bad at it. Some people may say they are incapable. They are very near the mark when they state that, but that's just arguing semantics. 'Understand that i am drawing a distinction between those general statements and the exact 'field' of creation science.' There is no 'field of creation science'. It does not exist. Creation 'scientists' aren't even scientists because they ignore the scientific method. That's why nobody who has even the most basic sense of critical thinking skills listens to them. Yes, I am saying you have no critical thinking skills. Any you have get shoved to the side the moment your predetermined conclusions come under scrutiny. 'Its when you say that in general a person cannot be good at what they do because they believe in some creation myth that i have a problem.' It's TRUE. Any creation 'scientist' when it comes to any field they 'specialize' in sucks across the board. Most of the things they write have very few citations and the reason for that is that their papers are usually devoid of any substance. Papers regarding 'special creation' don't even exist. None have been put forth for peer review. They are bad at their jobs. Evolutionary algorithms and Biological understanding apply to engineering and doctoring respectively. If you don't understand or refuse to understand either of those understandings and try to apply that lack of knowledge to those jobs, you're gonna be bad at them. No if's, and's, or but's. As far as a voter and parent goes, you're probably gonna be bad at both of those, too, not because of a lack of understanding of Evolutionary biology and Astronomy, but because of what you replaced it with. If you are a bible thumper, then you are demonstrably more likely to listen to your stupid priest or other equally ill-informed individuals when it comes to your voting habits and parenting habits, both of which are shit. Taking that position removes any ability to empathize or think for yourself. At that point you become a shit tier human being. 'I understand that a persons religious beliefs can restrict their thinking and impair their judgment.' Understatement of the century. 'My problem is that in stead of coming to that conclusion about an individual  _after_ having a few discussion with a person-' You think I haven't? You think Bill hasn't? The problem is is that you're all the same across the board. Do you have any idea how many times I have seen the same misinformation posted on this video from different fucking people? Almost every time a new person shows up to argue against this, they just regurgitate the same shit I've seen a thousand times because they all get it from the same sources. You've seen a creationist once and you've seen them all. 'This is akin to racism.' No, it's not. Unlike skin color, you're not forced to stay with the bullshit you've been taught. That comparison is retarded. It also pisses me off you jumped from dehumanization (when that didn't work) to racism. Stop trying to be a fucking victim. 'It is not full blown dehumanization but the way people speak about creationists is very much building an enemy image and creating a lot of hostility between people.' Bring me somebody who doesn't copy/paste or quote mine from answersingenesis or use all the same arguments and then we'll have this conversation. Until then, you're all the same. I don't make these statements lightly. I've been arguing this shit for 5 years now. Probably longer. I've seen all of it, and that was within the first month. Since then, I have seen the same argument reworded over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. Always... the same... shit... And this was when I was giving you people the benefit of the doubt and thinking you might actually have a case... Since the fake accounts started popping up here and Alan acting like a complete retard, I'm done. I'm done being polite and am done giving you people a chance. If you have nothing new to bring to the table, I will judge you accordingly since I will most likely be hitting base every single time. If you want me to change, prove me wrong.
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+lordlandraid I think you touched on an important point there. Not one of us can be an expert at everything and we all inevitably must consult other sources for knowledge in an area in which we happen to be weak. The problem with the creationist (who may be a perfectly capable architect/engineer/etc.) is that he will consult his pastor and holy book for advice rather than consulting an expert in the field. How many cases have we heard of parents who refuse to treat their sick child because they were told (or believe) that prayer will cure the child, resulting in the death of the child? If nothing else, Bill Nye's message can be taken as "Rather than trusting a book of fables or its interpretation by a pastor, put your trust in the subject matter expert"
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Bill Nye science guy, I'm sorry but evolution has nothing to do with engineering. And the most complicated thing is evolution, because it does not make any sense .
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+David Demyan There is a definite order to the fossils over time. Specifically, there are no apes below the 1st primates, no primates below the 1st synapsids, no synapsids below the 1st dinosaurs, no dinosaurs below the 1st diapsids, no diapsids below the 1st tetrapods, no tetrapods below the 1st fish, no fish below the 1st animals. That's what we call a progression. It is not explained by creationism. It is very well explained by evolution.
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+David Demyan So little time and so many brainless fools that refuse all forms of education, you are right about one thing though, you don't require evidence for your backward Middle Eastern beliefs, you don't acknowledge evidence fed to your pie hole and I doubt you have the intellect exceeding a sheep. 
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How can people agree with what this man said? That's such authoritarian and intolerant mindset... This behaviour of ridiculing other people's ideas and believes is poison in society. What's the believe in creationism interfere in how an engineer works?????????? That's absolutely retarded comparison! He also compared the fact there are similar stars to the sun in the universe with evolution. hahaha! With these "great" power of analogy I wonder how he performs in an IQ test... He actually never accomplished anything in science, only repeat like a parrot other people's theories. I don't exactly believe in Creationism or Evolution. I have the right to do so! As I never analysed the data on evolution, I'm not going to repeat like a parrot what some people say, even more those making stupid analogies such as comparing animals and stars. There are a few scientists that stopped believing evolution after analysing data and noticing how a lot were incomplete and some uncertain... mostly the evolution of cetaceans. Let's not forget 60 years ago scientists were certain the universe was infinite and always there, and now they are almost certain they were completely wrong. Then a bigot like this one makes it harder to discover different theories, because they are so certain of something that isn't really certain. And actually, some of the most outstanding scientists in human history were Creationists. This guy can dream of someday making different to humanity as Isaac Newton did.
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+PF Woody You: Let's not forget 60 years ago scientists were certain the universe was infinite and always there, and now they are almost certain they were completely wrong. Me: And there's the beauty of science. It is self-correcting, unlike religion which is pure dogma, delivered all too often with the threat of execution over non-belief. By the way, did you ever notice that when science corrects itself, it is NEVER because someone reached into a 2,000 year-old text and said "Hey - you scientists are wrong because Yahweh said so on page xxx". Instead, it is always the other way around - when scientists discovered that the universe is expanding and must have originated from a singularity, bible thumpers are always so quick to jump on the bandwagon and say "Ahhh - that's what Yahweh meant when he said 'Let there be light'" and attempt to shoehorn biblical passages into the best known science of the time. Advances in science have never come from religion.
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+PF Woody You: We have free speech and are allowed to ridicule the influential citizens impositions. That's actually our obligation in case we like our freedom. Me: I'm glad you agree to guarantee our right to criticize bad ideas such as those of an invisible sky-monsters. You know what other freedoms we have? It's a free country and everyone has the right to make fools of themselves. As Thunderf00t aptly said about the marketplace of ideas - "The Internet: where religions come to die".
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When atheists say they believe God does not Exist, what they're really saying is that THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN GENUINE GOODNESS AT ALL - BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT GOD IS! Ask atheists what they think "goodness" is AND YOU WILL NEVER GET A SINGLE COHERENT ANSWER FROM THEM; OR WHAT THEY WILL DESCRIBE WILL BE ABSOLUTELY INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM UNRESTRAINED MATERIALISTIC HEDONISM! And because God stands COMPLETELY IN OPPOSITION to such DEPRAVITY, they naturally HATE HIM PASSIONATELY - AND ALL WHO LOVE HIM! This is the reason for their IMPLACABLE HOSTILITY towards PERFECT GOODNESS and all who seek IT - WHICH IS WHAT THE WORD "GOD" refers to! This is VERY CLEAR from what Dawkins says here: ************************************************************************************************* "The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference. As that unhappy poet A.E. Housman put it: ‘For Nature, heartless, witless Nature Will neither care nor know.’ DNA neither cares nor knows. DNA just is. And we dance to its music."    -    Richard Dawkins,    River out of Eden  (1995)  p.133 ************************************************************************************************* That is the HELLISH worldview that atheists would like to establish here on the planet! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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+Jake Paul Go read the scientific articles on creation.com, you dumbass.
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Albert Einstein Quote: In consideration of the cosmos the order of the universe witch I with my limited human mind am able to perceive. Yet there are those who say there is no God. What makes me really angry is when they quote me in support of such views.
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+otonabeeave Awww - did I hurt your feelings? Sorry 'bout that. Perhaps once you get over it, you can take a stab at why you continue to use 19th-century arguments that have been refuted almost as long ago. (Google it)
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Today's Creation Moment Did Ants Invent the Electric Knife? Scientists have discovered that seemingly purposeless behaviors among leaf-cutting ants actually serve an important function. Leaf-cutting ants cut green leaves into pieces that they can carry back to the nest. As they cut a leaf, they vibrate, creating an effect like an electric knife. Since they can cut the leaves without vibrating, it would seem to have no purpose. Smaller worker ants accompany the larger worker ants to their leaf-cutting site. Then they wait around, watching the larger workers. To make matters stranger, once a leaf section is ready to be carried back to the nest, the little do-nothing workers climb aboard the leaf to be carried back home with it. New research has revealed that these apparently pointless behaviors serve a single, important purpose. As the larger worker finishes cutting a leaf section, she vibrates even faster. The increased rate of vibration is apparently a signal to the smaller worker to board the leaf section for the ride home. But why are the smaller workers there in the first place? Researchers have discovered that they discourage attacks by phorid flies. These flies would otherwise inject an egg into a leaf cutting ant. When the egg hatches, the larva chews its way through the ant, killing it. This amazingly designed system reminds us that there is complexity throughout nature. This is not the work of a God. God's highest purpose is to slaughter as many heathen unbelievers as possible. Let us pray - Dear Father, please torment people in hell forever and ever, because I am a Gay Christian, Thanks pal. And remember, dedicated Creation Scientists had to put down their beers for a few moments to read and then re-write this actual work done by other scientists - so please contribute to their work, if your heart leads you that way. Kisses.
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Creationists are the kings of this comment section now, atheism is just moronic agreed @atheism is irrational @Zoki
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+Gaxlock ha ha haha I believe in magic? like your fairy tale of a god that turns people into salt and fights dragons? no
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wait what happened to the true MERICA why are we have atheism shoved down are throats
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The purpose of human life is to live and enjoy life on earth, not to destroy all life out of greed, emotions and compulsions. We can see that setting humans free has cause Evil to be the main theme. We now have 1 in 42 baby boys born with Autism. Rising 650% in 35 years. 1 in 125 with congenital heart disease.  Rising 128% in just 10 years 200% since 1985 1 in 3 will die from cancer ages 14 to 64 according to the CDC reports. In 1847 it was 1 in 45. Heart disease, is up 1 in 8  but now people get plumbing jobs if they can afford it.  Diabetes is up 366% in just 29 years. Cancer is the number one killer disease of children in the USA.  The second is genetic birth defects, and third is heart disease.  All genetically caused. And don't forget N.O.R.D statistics that 1 in 10 people suffer from life long genetic diseases requiring treatment for life.  And all of these diseases cost money to treat and will shorten life. All are genetic. According to the CDC all of these are genetic. The fastest rising death rate is in babies 0 to 4 years old. Over 30% of wanted pregnancies end in miscarriage. Cancer has risen 1650% since 1847 since the law requires doctors to put cause of death on the death certificate.  Cancer is easy to document because it kills. The medical industry has risen from nothing in the 1600's to nearly 3 Trillion Dollar industry in 2015.   It is the largest industry on earth now, second is military industrial complex, then oil industry all related to human weakness and inability to live without technology. http://evolutionsciencenow.blogspot.com/2013_04_01_archive.html http://evolutionsciencenow.blogspot.com/2013/04/are-humans-getting-better-what-is.html http://evolutionsciencenow.blogspot.com/2013/06/what-are-inherited-diseases-and-what-is.html http://evolutionsciencenow.blogspot.com/2013/03/this-is-what-is-happening-to-humans-now.html http://evolutionsciencenow.blogspot.com/2013/03/how-did-we-get-so-sickly.html According to medical doctors humans would not live past 15 to  25 years without medical aid. http://evolutionsciencenow.blogspot.com/2013/06/the-medical-industry-and-what-it-tells.html http://evolutionsciencenow.blogspot.com/2013/03/what-is-cause-of-extreme-rise-in.html Before medical with no treatments at all, we lived to about 35 (1600's). Take away our medicines and our vaccines, insulin, and high blood pressure drugs and we all dye young on average according to about 50 MD's I have had this discussion with we would live about 15- 25 years with massive death of children before the age of 10.
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+Peter van der Meer If your whole career is in the hands of political correctness, and you are enslaved to politicians, you would want to save your reputation.   These PC people love to destroy people. A revered scientist does not make racist statements.  He makes statements of fact based on evidence. 
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I'm religious and I believe in intelligent design, which is basically science but God did it so it works :D
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+Atharkas I'm pretty dang sure he's talking about the ten commandments and not the law of moses
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+Michael Shelley No, it's the laws. All 613 of them.
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is it okay to be christian and to believe in evolution?
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Fallible Fiend is crying again because the big black man raped him again. LMAO
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+Jake Paul "How about we just let the record speak for itself here? I'll be happy knowing those articles are out there and you can pretend they aren't! What do you say??!" FINE! LET THE RECORD SPEAK FOR ITSELF! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! You be happy knowing that articles exist OUT THERE - WHICH YOU CAN'T PRESENT IN HERE! THAT MAKES YOU VERY CONVINCING! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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All these creationists and still we are the country that are the innovators? Holds everyone back? hmm doesn't sound like it. Sorry all you foaming at the mouth atheists but it had to said. Japan? You mean the country that almost destroyed our car industry? What the fuck is this dude talking about? Man believe in whatever you want even if I think it's stupid or crazy because that's what it means to be an American. Could maybe it be because of the creationists that our country is still the innovators? After all they do have a natural inclination to drive the very boundaries of God's creation where as the monkey believers just say fuck it.
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+lordlandraid Your statement is so ludicrous I don't even want to bother addressing it.
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+pdxeddie1111 "However, the biggest gap between American self-perceptions and how others perceive us is with regard to religiosity. In much of western Europe, the U.S. as a country is considered too religious – our 2005 poll found that majorities in France and the Netherlands and pluralities in Britain and Germany see the U.S. this way. By contrast, a 58% majority of Americans say their country is not religious enough. On this point, Muslims find themselves in rare agreement with the American public; majorities in Indonesia, Pakistan, Lebanon, Turkey, and Jordan all believe the U.S. is not religious enough." (Pew Institute, 2007) Sorry to bother you again, but should the US listen to secular, free societies of Western Europe or Islamic theocracies?
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Nicholas. Before you 'throw the book at me' again could you answer this? Why is that book for free? Aren't most things that are free usually... oh I don't know, worthless?
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+FreedomR115 And to think that you actually believe that all of this is true. My deepest condolences.
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+mikecucuk Well they're not EXACTLY aliens but... would you look at the time? Gotta go!
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The genome is a blueprint , much like the blueprints for buildings. When looking at the blueprints for various structures you can see how those similar in design were made in similar ways using similar methods and materials. When comparing the genome of similar organisms , again...you obviously see similarities. Those that have two eyes , opposable thumbs , or even hair , share a very similar make up , they are arranged the same way. The more seperate species are alike the more genetic material they have in common. Genetic similarity is not necessarily a family tree , but more of an illustration of how species are assembled. Its pure assumption that genetic similarity is part of an evolutionary map. Yeah I know , some of you armchair geniuses are gonna come back with your challenges and smart alec comments , but only the very simple would try to deny the point I am making here. 
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rabbit trails..........rabbit trails........you guys just dont know what to say to someone who dosent fit into your little categories. Seems your favorite tool in a debate are suggestive attacks on character. Thats ok , I knew you were like that. You hide inconsistencies in you owe philosophy by steering the conversation in a different direction. This conversation was entertaining for a while and wasted some free time but I think I will step out of "Bill and Teds excellent adventure" for a while. No harm done and no hard feelings , but you guys are a trip. I know you will return with another rude reply so that you can get the last word and feel like you "one upped" me. Take your best shot. 
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+Chris Spencer Aw, is the circus leaving town? Looking back, I note: you called for science to consider all possibilities, but omitted answering me whether it's possible you could be wrong and there's no 'designer'. You made the claim that genetic similarities don't prove evolution - a claim straight from numerous creationist websites, including evolutionnews (Discovery Institute). You said Christian scriptures spoke of a spherical earth, but actually KLV speaks of the 'circle of the earth' not the sphere. You wouldn't acknowledge my examples of how religion holds science back, you preferred to claim that science is held back when evidence-free possibilities (oogity-boogity) are not considered. You said you can't make the blind see, but you refuse to look at the Discovery Institute with me. You claimed science has never explained wings, but actually you simply reject out of hand the wealth of explanations. Maybe you'll have better luck with your mystery-mongering, your un-original and thinly-veiled religious attack on modern science elsewhere.
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The majority of humans are completely ignorant of science and the scientific method given to us from the giants of science. That includes the emotionally owned PhD's of Evodelusionism who think Evolution is cool or some silly ego emotional nonsense.  You have to be blind, retarded, and completely controlled by compulsions and your sex organs to believe that humans are in a good condition.   You Evotards are by your idiotic religion evidence of human genetic degradation. This is because in the 48 years of my jaunt in science, I have never seen even one speck of evidence showing that simple life could ever evolve.  And any geneticists who understand how cells are produced know it is a logical impossibility.  http://evolutionsciencenow.blogspot.com/2013/06/there-are-no-beneficial-mutations-ever.html Belief in "Evodelusionsim" is, in itself, evidence of human mental degradation.
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+Gary Bell God forbids women to cut their man's balls off, by doing his fighting for him. This was a time for absolute obedience.  Because the men needed to be strong not wussies like the weak willed men of today. This was the time of getting the Messiah born and anything that would interfere with that was severely punished.  This is nothing compared to what is about to come to all those who are evil and hate their Creator. 
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I love Bill Nye because he is so calm and passionate without making himself rude.
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+Alan Clarke A creationist in the sense of Christianity as it is commonly used. I don't believe the Earth is 8,000 years old, not that it was never created. 
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Theoretical physicist Paul Davies has said that “the appearance of design is overwhelming” and Oxford professor Dr. John Lennox has said “the more we get to know about our universe, the more the hypothesis that there is a Creator . . . gains in credibility as the best explanation of why we are here.”
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+33sylvia33 "Common sense and conclusions from studying" Studying will not help you if you allow things that have nothing to do with science cloud your judgement. i.e. religion. Why do you suppose god gave flightless birds wings? Why did he give leg and pelvic rudiments to snakes and whales? Why did he make over 350,000 species of beetle? Why did he design humans with two blind spots in their optic nerves? Why did he provide chickens with genes for teeth? and on and on.. If you find the story of Noah's Ark or the talking snake in the Garden of Eden believable, yet fail to find any truth in evolution, a subject which has been verified and proven by a confluence of science, then you clearly are not examining the arguments objectively. Then again, religion is far from objective...Objectivity is something science always strives for.
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+ExtantFrodo2 DB(A) is not suitable for infrasound detection. It is weighted to the audible range. Read the Cape Bridgewater study I recommended. Another interesting study is "Wind Turbines can be Hazardous to Human Health" by Alec N. Salt, Ph.D.  found at  http://oto2.wustl.edu/cochlea/wind.html
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Atheists are dumbasses who have no idea about life and reason Atheism is cancer for the mind
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he lied, 'no evidence for it' what a lying ass. You see the glee in his face as he lied to us. What a jackass. even looks like a donkey.
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+jamie Allen1977 zeus, ra, odin, thor, jesus all the same stupid fiction.
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+ExtantFrodo2 Yeah, where is zeus' 4000 year old world wide, history changing body of worshippers? LEts see, where are the Universities and hospitals under ra been hiding? You are stupid.
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What is Human Sin and Where is it? We can see the "sins"* we inherited in the form of compulsions, emotionalism, fear, hate, lust, greed, anger, pride, basically all of humans emotional mental diseases found in DNA, that cause human to kill each other, causes war, cause screwed up ideas, screwed up marriages and screwed up children and screwed up religions, and hate anyone who has different beliefs. Division and "cultures" and all the mental permutations, constantly arguing,  are a disease of mankind.   It really is based on our poor quality degraded "genes" we all have that give rise to all the diseases and mental problems.  The results of sin are in the emotional mess and in 17000 and more genetic diseases we have along with all the pathogens we have cultivated by our ignorance.  Humans are now weak and sickly creatures proven beyond all doubts compared to any of our ancestors.  Every aspect of your life and your actions and stupidity is contained in your DNA.  It is said that we are slaves of the flesh now because we are so degraded.  We have to learn to be free from this in spite of our selves and so we need Jehovah God's grace through Jesus  that "repairs" us enough to get free from the bonds of this horrible condition of continual recycling of the same emotional suffering over and over. Why is it that women and men continually recycle the same emotional patterns that cause them to suffer?  Doing the same stupid actions over and over, never quite learning why it doesn't work.  Then going to school and learning from other screwed up humans teaching what is designed to keep the greedy rich elites and royalty in power. Also going to "church" and learning to feed the preachers more and more money in the name of "god".  There is no indication in any ancient scripture from any land that the teachers of Truth are to be paid wages for this work. The opposite is true.  If a person commits a heinous crime, they can test the DNA now and find the mental diseases (sins inherited)  that cause this**.  When a teenager commits suicide, they have found in the DNA of the brain the cause for this very short trigger of rage that causes this momentary insanity.   Basically we are diseased and will die because of inherited defects "sin".  We were not always that way and the evidence shows the same thing in all the testable evidence on humans.  Sinful actions cause more "sin" (and sin always results in suffering and death), to be passed along to the offspring. It is sort of a cumulative pattern of ignorance breeds ignorance and suffering; found in the mutations that destroy our genome one or multiple mutations at a time, depending on the diseases we have at conception.  It is easy to see this in other "tribes", nations and cultures, but it is very difficult to see this in ones self.  It takes humility to accept the fact of how weak and stupid one is and accept the Grace God gave us.  The entire "mosaic" law for health and "cleanliness" is about preserving the genome and not allowing more mutations.  It has no other purpose.  When people attack the Bible for stating that we are all "sinners" it is not stating some mystical nonsense.  We can now clearly see the sins we inherited in the form of our defective genes as clearly reflected in DNA and the rapid rise of diseases.   For some time I used to think; "How can a baby have sin?"  Now I know, they got it from their ancestors in the form of degraded emotional compulsion mental illnesses that we all have, and physical diseases that will kill us. This comes from absolutely clear evidence found in the human genome (the entire 3.2 billion base pairs of your/our DNA are messed up from the original condition of perfection.**) http://evolutionsciencenow.blogspot.com/2014/10/what-is-human-sin-and-where-is-it.html
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+GoodScienceForYou Black, white, yellow or green, the sub Saharans still don't have any Neanderthal DNA.
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+Peter van der Meer ah it probably just degraded too much to be recognizable as neanderthal. (oh shit, the stupid is infectious)
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The soulless con man that was the mentor monster Socrates he was and is forever soulfully challenged Even in the day's of the ancient Greeks. That is way of boy voracious Scoutmasters like Socrates yup he got his just desserts. A nagging frothing mob most likely headed by his wife That there is pedo parental piranha  just desserts. Are these humanists baking NAMBLA a pedophile cake? Got to break a few rotten eggheads I guess.
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teaching children that life is meaningless is inappropriate. Moron. You get a bunch of dead people.
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+jamie Allen1977 "Just a few words from you and my asshole curled up inside my five year old ass" I guess you feel like you're five years old when confronted by intellectual giants. That's okay, we won't tell anyone.
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+ExtantFrodo2 Haha, I consider myself a mental midget but I still look a long way down upon this "five year old ass", careful not to step on him mate. 
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