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Bill Nye: Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children

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Let me get this straight, this group of thingymabobs creates a mortal primate that can't tell right from wrong nor good from bad. Then the Bob's tell the primates not to be naughty and eat a specific magic fruit placed in the centre of a garden but they can't tell right from wrong nor good from bad, so of course they eat the magic fruit. Isn't that blatantly entrapment?  Or blatantly insane?
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+GoodScienceForYou  I have read the entire bible but I'm not saying that I understand the translations and miscopies from Koine Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew nor their usage of allegory or symbolic imagery. I did enjoy most of Ecclesiastes and still reread the odd passages. I think I'll pass on the religious lessons, thanks. 
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Some gibbering buffoon commenting on this video stated that The greatest impediment to accepting creationism is understanding it. Understanding what precisely? • That man was made from a ball of mud (note that creationists often exclaim that they are not "made from dirt") and woman from his rib? • That the woman (with the cooperation of a talking snake) "tempted" the man to eat the fruit of "knowledge" (we see how poisonous knowledge is against religion if it was shunned thousands of years ago)? • That a 600 year-old man and his family of 8 without any knowledge of ship-building were able to build a wooden boat massively larger than the largest wooden boat built in modern times which despite being built by hundreds of experienced (and much younger) ship-rights, still was unable to stay afloat? • That we are told that unlike for believers who have a strict moral code handed down by god, for atheists morality is all relative and yet when we question why stonings to death are no longer carried out today, inevitably the answer the theist offers is that god prescribed punishments that were appropriate for the time i.e. their own god is a proponent of moral relativism! • The list is endless... I would say that the greatest impediment is knowledge - the more one learns about the natural world, the less one is likely to believe in fairy tales written for adults. In fact, it's not just me who says it - the fastest growing segment of the population who reject these fairy tales is precisely the more educated who attend college.
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+Eterniti Forum What is the issue here? Are you intellectually delayed? This isn't a collection of a lot of people who agree on evolution being true. This is a collection of people who have PROVED evolution to be true. Come on dimwit, read the NAS study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK230201/ . It's something that even a edmuhcated simpleton like you can and should be able to understand. Fossil records, molecular biology,  geology, and so forth. A scientific theory is a strongly backed up explanation that has been proven through rigorous testing, such as those composed on evolution by 110 of the greatest intellectuals in the world and the greatest academies and organizations in the world. It is not only confirmed through observation, BUT EXPERIMENTATION. YES, RIGOROUS, as well as repeated EXPERIMENTATION, which has been done at least 35 MILLION TIMES, a la PROVEN that many times. But dunderhead, if you still don't understand, let me offer you a simple explanation on scientific theories: http://www.livescience.com/21491-what-is-a-scientific-theory-definition-of-theory.html.
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+The Celestial Coffeepot Dear lord (see what I did there), this is an interesting breed of asinine ignoramuses. +Eterniti Forum, you know what I find funny? Of the 9000 some studies I have seen trying to prove Creation (compared to the millions on evolution that have been conducted, peer reviewed and published as fact), NONE have come to the conclusion that Creation exists. They have all supported evolution. Look at these as well: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gquery/?term=creationism .
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Even though the hemoglobin molecule of a chimpanzee differs from that of a human by only one amino acid, I have a question.  If evolution is true, then why are humans still here, and why haven't we evolved ourselves over the extent of time we've been here?  Why is it that we voluntarily choose our own nature of life, while the chimpanzee cannot, and is kept captive by his own breed?  Here's another issue with Bill Nye's outlook.  He wants the future generation to be filled with scientists, but that's simply not going to happen.  With all the years I've been in science myself, I can tell you that it eventually becomes very dry, boring, and lifeless.  You'll never truly know why so many people in the world do not enter the field of science until you have been exposed to it. 
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+The Celestial Coffeepot There is research going on currently at the Genome project and currently there is, what like 8 million new genes that have developed during the past 100 years. Each of those genes are extremely minute things that will take centuries to even notice a slight change in the look, act, think, or even the involuntary actions themselves that will differ.
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+Braden Dredge evolution disproves yet another important biblical claim casting doubt on it's claims to authority. "use our abilities to prove that humans can do great things beyond our limitations." I think you must mean "perceived limitations" as the definition of limits is that which you can not go beyond in actuality. There are however perceived limits, legal limits and more, but when it comes to an actual limit well that limit is the ultimate boundary which there is no going beyond. "many people in ancient civilizations like Greece and Rome who were able to recite conversations word for word" People are still very capable of doing this, there is just very little need for it with books and other recording means.
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Creationism in a nutshell: "I have never engaged in any activity that could remotely be confused with homework on this subject, nor would I recognize actual homework on it, nor do I understand or appreciate the homework that others have invested on the topic. However, I browsed a web page, talked it over with a minister and an MBA, and consulted a few like-minded and equally ill-informed people, so I feel confident in saying that scientists are full of cr@p."
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On Saturday, I head to Death Valley, California with my spring undergraduate class. Evidence for a protracted history (more than one billion years) is wholly incompatible with YEC beliefs. Yet no creationist has taken up my standing offer to test those beliefs against the rocks. And that in a nutshell is what is wrong with religious faith. https://vimeo.com/102055931
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+Alan Clarke This and every attempt to claim that "there is little agreement between dating methods" is more than ignorant and disingenuous. It's dishonest. Hopelessly grasping at an imaginary straw. You're nuts, Alan. A waste of time. And henceforth blocked.
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Douglas Gasking's refutation of the existence of God: 1 The creation of the world is the most marvelous achievement imaginable. 2 The merit of an achievement is the product of (a) its intrinsic quality, and (b) the ability of its creator. 3 The greater the disability (or handicap) of the creator, the more impressive the achievement. 4 The most formidable handicap for a creator would be nonexistence. 5 Therefore if we suppose that the universe is the product of an existent creator we can conceive a greater being - namely, one who created everything while not existing. 6 An existing God therefore would not be a being greater than which a greater cannot be conceived because an even more formidable and incredible creator would be a God which did not exist. Ergo: 7 God does not exist.
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+ExtantFrodo2 Or perhaps if you are a creationist.
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+The Celestial Coffeepot I'm just thinking back to the racks of shelves of scifi books I have read through the years.
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”Nothing created everything” does not mean the same thing as, “Everything exists without a creator." Clearly, nothing has absolutely no effects. According to believers, “Nothing created god/the gods" makes sense while “Nothing created the physical universe” is unreasonable. There is no logical or rational reason for this distinction. Maybe if I put some of the words in caps and laughed like a hyena, it'll positively accentuate how correct I am in saying these things. What do you think, Zaki? ;)
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+Zaki Aminu Maybe you're too stupid to notice, so I'm gonna help you out here: Marking your comment as spam ≠ deleting your comments. Do you understand now, or do I have to use smaller words?
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I often read-over my conversations with creationists from the past few years, and with the advantage of distance, I can see where I have often gone wrong. That is where I assume, wrongly, that the creationist has at least some knowledge of the topic. A good example occurred just recently when I was talking to someone who claimed to be a biology student at university engaged in post-grad research (and I believed him). He mentioned that he was doing gravimetric tests which might explain why fossils were sorted in the column by size. "Sorted by size". Yep. After some time pondering why I couldn't get through to him, I had to ask myself if the idiot wasn't me, for believing I was talking to a normal human. And I can see where I have continued debating with these people in the past, letting many of these kinds of blunders past my guard. They don't know the basics, and we shouldn't assume they do.
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+ExtantFrodo2 "Seeing that you are more interested in appearing right than being right" That's his modus operandum in a nutshell. He has even admitted it in the past.
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+matchlockfun They also do not wish to even learn the basics.
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"There is nothing wrong with not believing in evolution and it doesn't hold me back from anything U0001f602U0001f602U0001f602 [sic] i feel bad for people like this. All i can do it pray. The bible does not say how long it took for God to create the earth, 1 day could be a metaphor for 1 million years, who really know what happened? Evolution is also based on assumptions and no one was there so who is Bill Nye to say that Evolution for a fact is real. He needs to let people believe whatever they want and raise their children however they want. I don't shove my beliefs down his throat so why are these people beyond persistent to do that to us." The theory of evolution has nothing to do with belief. Rejecting evidence on the basis of beliefs for which there is no basis will hold you back every time. God didn't 'create' the Earth. Nothing about the way the natural world works has anything to do with divine intervention. The theory of evolution is based upon evidence, not assumptions. That evidence is overwhelming, and readily available to anyone who cares to look. Raising children to ignore evidence in favor of fairytales is child abuse. No-one is shoving beliefs down your throat. There is no belief in science.
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+Aguila701 The central difficulty for all religion is that it isn't true. So the fact that church organizations promote helping others is beside the point. It isn't necessary for charitable work to be rooted in mythology. As is obvious in America today, the down side of believing that one's prejudices (aka values) are inspired or required by God is that they are so much more difficult to overcome.
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I believe in both to an extent. Do I think we came from dirt with magic? No. Do I think we came from a bang that magically created turned non living matter into a cell, bacteria, etc, and then turned into monkeys and then into humans? No. Neither sound correct, nor do I think we'll truly figure out how it REALLY happened. Either way, the problem with being like Bill is that, will the world really be that exciting if/when we do know everything there is to know? The fun of life is discovering, not knowing.
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+GabrielTheGuitarist "where did the universe come from? What created the universe? If there was a 'before' the big bang, then that means time had to start before the big bang in order for the big bang to happen, you illogical fuck. lol" No. Time is a RECORD OF EVENTS! The BIG BANG is just the FIRST EVENT! And EVENTS CAN ONLY BE PRODUCED BY ACTIONS - FOR THEY ARE BUT EFFECTS WHICH CAN ONLY ARISE FROM CAUSES!
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+GabrielTheGuitarist "Everything needs a start to be proven real....." ONLY PRODUCTS/CREATURES HAVE A BEGINNING - NOT THE CREATOR! "...Even the big bang. Time can't start out of nowhere." ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!
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In response to Migdalia Berrio, who came up with the "gems" in bold... The bible does not say how long it took for God to create the earth, 1 day could be a metaphor for 1 million years, who really know what happened? If 1 day could be a metaphor for 1 million years, Adam and Eve could be a metaphor for... Nah - that story has absolutely no redeeming qualities. Evolution is also based on assumptions and no one was there so who is Bill Nye to say that Evolution for a fact is real. You may as well toss fingerprints, tire tracks, cloth fragments or fibre in a murder trial because none of that matters if "no one was there" to witness the murder. He needs to let people believe whatever they want and raise their children however they want. Apparently teaching kids the Flat Earth Theory and the Stork Theory of embryology is OK too, so long as people really believe it. I don't shove my beliefs down his throat so why are these people beyond persistent to do that to us. Evolution is not a belief system. If due to circumstances beyond your control, you were unable to get a proper education to learn about evolution, I pity you. If you chose to remain ignorant despite having the recourse to actually learn about evolution, you are worthy of scorn.
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+ergonomover   He seems to be promoting the death penalty now and spreading his disapproval of Mormonism. I read many pages and comments on Matches suggestion, haha weird dude that's for sure. I loved that comment from a women laughing at PZ coating Al in bacon scent and throwing him in the pit of atheists. No fundies can see the fallacy of denying science, it's their own suicide.
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Poor Bedrock Eddze Edd Flintstone (Coyotollah Aminu) is left trying desperately to find the sunshine that he thinks shines out of his backside. Like some mutant Oroboros,  Edd's head is swallowed by his own arse (and whatever light he thinks he will find there would in any case be blocked by several copies of Merriam-Webster's dictionary and his own fat head). The Aminuboros thus internally bathes in the delusion of his own magnificence while externally he stands as nothing more than a symbol to all of his circular reasoning and consequent affirming fallacious logic. Let us laugh at the "almighty" Aminuboros.
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+Aguila701 "You have such a simple minded concept of what reality is...." Well, REALITY IS SIMPLE, isn't IT? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "...Before this argument goes any further you need to expand upon those ideals...." Hahahahahahahahaha! Whatever are you gibbering on about? Hahahahahahahahahaha! "....Parents can be nurturing and caring or they can be imposing and authoritative. Parents that care for their kids without shoving their personal beliefs into their heads just because they're believed to be owned by them is what I'm arguing for...." Hahahahahahahahahaha! ARE YOU SAYING THAT PARENTS DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO BRING UP THEIR CHILDREN AND IT SHOULD BE LET TO ATHEISTS TO DO SO? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....Zaki make no mistake I do not find myself constricted by the simple scale of atheism and theism. I free myself to explore both sides of the Argument form below and above the perspectives...." YOU'RE AN ATHEIST - AREN'T YOU? BE HONEST! Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "...People like you that choose one side and stick with it couldn't possibly understand, and THAT is what makes you ignorant." Hahahahahahahahahahaha! So, are you saying you're an atheist - but don't want to let on to most people - or what? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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"It [atheism] is a doctrine aimed at ENCOURAGING and ENTRENCHING the attitude of DENIAL of RESPONSIBILITY for one's actions and the CONSEQUENCES thereof!"     To borrow a quote from "Farscape" - What a load of dren.
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+RichireX I should think it's rather obvious that I have considered and rejected this Jesus and the ass he rode in on as they are genocidal megalomaniacal bullies.
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He upchucks one phenomenal lie after another.  Why not?  I don't believe in Evolution because Jesus Christ was sent by God to be my substitute on the Cross and HE spoke of "Creation".  You Mr. Nye, telling me that my life and beliefs are inconsistent with what we see in the Universe, is from Satan.  My life was falling apart before I came to know Christ and HE is the ONLY reason things make any sense!  You ARE the one who lacks any REAL evidence of (D)evolution.  You are a front to my God, my Beloved Country that was FOUNDED on "In God we Trust", and my very sensibilities.  Your atheistic, anti-Christian teachings rip and tear at what every child has the natural right to, and that is to come to Jesus!  OH AND I RESENT AND I'M OFFENDED THAT MY TAX $$$ go to pay for YOUR godless teachings in public schools!
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do you fear the Lord?  my observation is NOPE... you stand up to Him, blare out hatred to His Word and His Son, "The fear of the Lord is the BEGINNING of wisdom"  Ps. 111:10.   "the fear of the Lord is the beginning of Knowledge"  Proverbs. 9:10 And 1:7  "The fear of the Lord is pure, enduring forever."  Psalms 19:9 One day, "every knee shall bow and EVERY tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!"  Hallelujah  Philippians 2:11 Romans 14:10ff, "For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God. For it is written, "AS I LIVE, SAYS THE LORD, EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW TO ME, AND EVERY TONGUE SHALL GIVE PRAISE TO GOD." So then each one of us will give an account of himself to God."   While you have breath, it would behoove you to figure this issue out!
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Wunnerful - somebody is quoting fiction. OK - let me have a go... John Whorfin: "Laugh-a while you can, monkey-boy" Curly "Nyuk nyuk nyuk" Fred Flintstone: "Yabba-dabba-doo"
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So, the dufus 'You are a sad pathetic moron' is posting on my channel. If you wanna take a few free shots, go ahead and talk to him. Lord knows I've already torn his ass a couple inches wider.
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Actually writing my last paper in Rhetoric class on the reasons why YEC fail to accept evolution. So yeah, all of you YEC people in the comment section really help me out in Ideas.
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+Alan Clarke "Evolutionist web pages have an agenda: to support philosophical naturalism" Tu quoque fallacy. Naturalistic beliefs are not necessary in the sciences, yet the study of natural science requires a focus on natural causes rather than suspension of natural phenomena. This concept seems annotying to you. Can you explain why?
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When the day comes that a human's memories can be downloaded into a cloned brain, will religious zealots worship technology? Great men and women live on if through their ideas. We all live on the backs of giants that zealots can only try to belittle.
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+Alan Clarke You fail to factor in that life goes on, despite your protests that it really shouldn't.
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+Alan Clarke Entropy is a valid construct in certain special cases of which we don't know if the universe is included or not.
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If only those who demand evidence for evolution would shine even a fraction of their skepticism on their own mythological beliefs, they may actually find they are quite wrong. Of course this never happens. The obvious bias and double standards employed by the resident creationists here never ceases to amaze me! Perhaps even more amazing is there blindness to it. The mountains of evidence for evolution is not enough, and this is because of course evidence is not important to these people. They pick and choose when to apply it and how it is applied.  At the end of the day, God apparently needed to sacrifice himself to appease himself and save humanity from himself. Makes sense...
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+Zaki Aminu Do we both speak English? Yes. Do we both have an extensive grasp of the English language and how to communicate between each other? Yes. Now you can't use a non-existent lack of aptitude as an excuse to not present evidence to me. I'm now waiting for either for the evidence you claim to have, or for more excuses not to present such evidence (if it even exists). Or do you plan to talk out both sides of your mouth again?
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+mikecucuk "Do we both speak English? Yes...." OK. "...Do we both have an extensive grasp of the English language and how to communicate between each other? Yes..." Well, I wouldn't go that far; You need A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT! Hahahahahahahahahaha! "...Now you can't use a non-existent lack of aptitude as an excuse to not present evidence to me...." Hahahahahahahahaha! Your language skills are UNDERDEVELOPED, in my opinion; But, MORE SERIOUSLY, your capacity for LOGICAL REASONING is SERIOUSLY IMPAIRED! I mean, you ACTUALLY BELIEVE that SOMETHING CAN COME OUT OF NOTHINGNESS and that EVENTS CAN OCCUR WITHOUT CAUSATION, do you not? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Given that, HOW DO YOU SUPPOSE YOU CAN GRASP THE CONCEPT OF EVIDENCE? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....I'm now waiting for either for the evidence you claim to have, or for more excuses not to present such evidence (if it even exists). Or do you plan to talk out both sides of your mouth again?" Hahahahahahahahahahaha! As I said, it is FOR YOU to - FIRST - SHOW that you have the intellectual ability to grasp the evidence you ask for! If a BLIND man asks me for VISUAL EVIDENCE, what am I supposed to do? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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+Nicholas Christie-Blick Evidence can be interpreted many different ways to prove what you want to prove. I.e carbon dating. The exponential decay of carbon dating requires an initial value and so of course if I believe in an earth that is billions of years old I would pick an initial value that supports that. If you look at the "evidence" you will see that it is not what it seems. Again it's not reproducible, testable, or observable. Modern genetics proves evolution is impossible. Any mutation or adaptation is a loss of information not a gaining of information. It is impossible for one animal to gain information to become a different species. Morality does not come from civilization. Civilization is ever changing. Morality must come from something that is unchanging, God. Civilization bases its morals off of something not morals based on civilization. The Bible is full of sinners like me. Only one person is person was sinless ands that's Jesus Christ.
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+Eterniti Forum With that in mind, would you allow that the warning in Revelation about the beast sent by the devil, its mark, its number, and the consequences, MUST be of the highest importance? Yet you couldn't get two christians in all of christianity to agree what it all means. Is it reasonable to think that the warning can be safely ignored, or that your interpretation is probably good enough? If a life jacket came with operating instructions that most people couldn't understand, this could be problematic, not so? How do you reconcile this DIREST of warnings about end-times with the total lack of understanding of it meaning?
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+Eterniti Forum "Again your explanation saying that all species would be at the bottom assumes your theory to be true as a basis. It would make perfect sense that if all animals were created at the same time (or a few days apart) that the animals that lived longer would not be found at the bottom level."      Both these claims are so profoundly stupid and illogical it makes me cry that you think this is actually a good argument. It's almost like there's nothing but maggots up in your cranium controlling what you type into the comment box. But that would be insulting to maggots everywhere. Stop commenting. You are a plague to all intelligent beings who waste time trying to figure out how any human could be so stupid.     Unless you are doing it deliberately as some kind of horrid Poe.
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"I am quite sure that our views on evolution would be very different had biologists studied genetics and natural selection before and not after most of them were convinced that evolution had occurred." — J. B. S. Haldane "Our ways of learning about the world are strongly influenced by the social preconceptions and biased modes of thinking that each scientist must apply to any problem. The stereotype of a fully rational and objective “scientific method”, with individual scientists as logical (and interchangeable) robots is self-serving mythology." - Stephen J. Gould "At this point, it is necessary to reveal a little inside information about how scientists work, something the textbooks don’t usually tell you. The fact is that scientists are not really as objective and dispassionate in their work as they would like you to think. Most scientists first get their ideas about how the world works not through rigorously logical processes but through hunches and wild guesses. As individuals, they often come to believe something to be true long before they assemble the hard evidence that will convince somebody else that it is. Motivated by faith in his own ideas and a desire for acceptance by his peers, a scientist will labor for years knowing in his heart that his theory is correct but devising experiment after experiment whose results he hopes will support his position." - Boyce Rensberger
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+Alan Clarke The internet provides nothing of the sort. Your concept of an evolutionary "dead-end" is not correct in the context you're claiming. Explain to us why you think most cladograms exclude archeopteryx from the coelurosaurs. Your link merely shows a google image search page of simplistic cladograms, some of which show archeopteryx and some of which do not. Explain more fully, this time with an aim to make a clear point, rather than simply argue.
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+Alan Clarke I am of course making my usual mistake when discussing science with you - that is I'm wrongly assuming you know a little about the topic. With that in mind, I would ask you to take into account that if archeopteryx did not evolve into modern birds, that does not mean it stopped evolving. The context that you're missing is that in order to nullify the "threat" of archeopteryx being ancestral to modern birds, you're merely diverting to other feathered dinosaurs with features transitional between dinos and birds. So, please explain your claim more fully with this in mind. Always keep one eye on the target, and the other on where you're standing - standing ON the line or OVER it is a foul. Boom tish.
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Yet another while has passed and not a single theist produced a single empirical evidence for their deity's existence. Meanwhile, more discoveries on the evolution of early Arthropods are made, evidence that social pressure eventually became more important than "survival of the fittest" for homo sapiens in the last few millenias and finally, the bone structure of the toes may lead to a better understanding of our bipedality arose after the speciation from our common ancestors with the pans.
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No surprise that we find more pejorative propaganda and masturbatory bluster from our resident YouTube jihadist Wacky Zaki ↓↓. It's as if he can't come to grips with nobody believing in his imaginary god friend that he plugs in for everything in the universe from rivers to juniper bushes to supernovae. It explains his caps lock addiction, having to laugh like a castrated hyena, and having to stare at his belly button for an answer to our every rebuttal to his anti-intellectual tripe.
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+Zaki Aminu Because I'm neither of those things. That's why I said I'll send a homosexual or some shit your way so you can tell then how much you're disgusted by them. Try and keep up, okay?
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@Zakass Free will?   Free will and omniscience cannot co-exist, if god knows everything then it knows our future but we have free will and make our own decisions. If it doesn't know then it isn't omniscient, if it does know then we haven't got free will, one or the other is a lie?  Take your pick and choose wisely! You don't have to be too bright to be a Christian!
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+Zaki Aminu "I guess you would know huh Zaki?..." You don't mind, do you? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Actually I do. "...You know all there is to know because you are "awake"...." You sound UPSET about that - WHY? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! because if you truly  believe you are awake than that means you consider yourself a prophet. Hee hee a prophet of madness. "...Hah, are you obsessed with always being right and knowing better than others and having people with different opinions than you "challemged"?..." Hahahahahahahahahahaha! YOU WANT ME TO BE WRONG? - WHY? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Because you preach madness NOT science or religion. Your madness can spread around if left unchecked. "....Hey Zaki you asked how many bat shit crazy people that Claimed to be prophets just like you were right, correct?...." Hahahahahahahahahahaha! I'm "crazy" because I say that you're wrong to claim that SOMETHING CAN COME OUT OF NOTHINGNESS? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! No, you're crazy because of all your Hahahahahhahahahahaass. "...Well the answer is simple...." Do tell! Hahahahahahahahahahaha! You should already know Mr. awakened. "...No single person throughout history has ever been right about every single little thing..." REALLY? AND HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT - ATHEISTIC GUT FEELING? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT WRONG ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC THING? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Well it's just one thing, I am not claiming to have knowledge of all like you do. You know what you give theists a bad name. I bet no self respecting church would be caught dead being associated with you. There are some theists that have faith but also have use of logic. You only have use of madness. "...You are no different than they are...." HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT, FAGGOT? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! I know that because of the mountains and mountains of evidence that you have left here on this threads. "...You just happen to have access to a steady Internet connection and a lot of free time on your hands...." Hahahahahahahahahahaha! I'm sorry to hear you don't have proper internet connectivity at home! The government should make better provisions for the LESS FORTUNATE! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Whoever said that I don't have access to the internet? Oh that's right you did because you know all and see all with your omnipotent power of cognition. "....I guess by this point the only thing that keeps you going is your complete and utter madness...." Or maybe I'm just BETTER THAN YOU, eh? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Is that what you tell yourself at night when you can't go to sleep? "...But hey if me calling you mad makes you feel bad about yourself, try dropping the "hahahahahas" from your replys...." Hahahahahahahahahahaha! WHY would I be upset about atheists disapproving of ME? THE OPPOSITE IS THE CASE: IF ATHEISTS APPROVED OF ME, I WOULD BE MORTIFIED! WHAT GOOD IS A PEST-KILLER THAT IS APPROVED OF BY PESTS? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Haa haa you're funny Zaki. I bet not even god approves of you. "...They don't make you sound smart or intimidating, they just make you sound demented and crazy....." CLEARLY, you don't like them - WHICH MEANS THEY'RE JUST THE RIGHT SORT OF THING I SHOULD HAVE IN MY POSTS! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! It's not that I don't like them Zaki, it's just that if you are trying to convince me of your bat shit crazy ideas it is kinda distracting with all the "hahahahahhaahahaass" "...That is why your madness cannot be taken seriously because with your deranged crazy clown laugh it seems that YOU don't even take yourself seriously." Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! I don't take YOU seriously, FAGGOT! That's all! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Well you take the time to reply to my posts do you not?
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Your a fucken idiot! Evolution doesn't disprove God. Your trying to say that someone who believes in God cannot be a scientist or an engineer but yet %40 of scientist do believe that a God is behind everything. Your the shittiest and most closed minded "Scientists" I've ever waisted 4 minutes listening to. You say that in the years to come, God will be proven unnecessary and will be a dead idea but science only leans toward God and reinforces the idea. You old bastard your nothing but a played out hasbin, your the only idea that will be dead in the future.
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+Richard Garcia'He's talking about a very small part of the population that doesn't believe in evolution, why would he call it a world view or imply there's no evidence for something?' The idea that the world is 10,000 - 6,000 years old and was created by God in a week is a worldview and a dumb one at that. There's as much evidence for that as there is for platform 9 and 3/4.
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Religious faith has nothing to do with these problems. I am firmly religious with my god and I stand by him with everything.  However, I am also a man of science and believe in such. The idea of creationism is that we were here in gods image, why would god put us against a world that is constantly changing and not allow us, animals, plants, or even cognitive thinking move forward and adapt to the new environment. As a believer of both creationism and evolution, god would not move/control the entire world so we may inhabit it. Life was given the ability to move on and continue forward as other factors that even he can't control affect our way of living. I have also been firmly kicked out of my house for standing by my belief, and I don't blame the entire religion because of a few bad nuts. It is simply those people who act in those ways that are annoying, maybe even irritating. People do have a right to believe what they want as do we so don't go about your life trying to convert people, allow it to just happen. I am with Bill Nye here when he references children, I would prefer to not have more single minded people out there. Maybe those parents can show both sides to the story and allow their own children to make there choices and educate themselves to the world.
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+The Celestial Cofeepot how can anyone confirm what happened at the beginning of existence except the one who was there, God. Luckily he gave us the Bible to let us know the truth. I'm sorry. I think we are losing focus. What I do know is: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1) In The beginning was the word. And the word was with God and the word was God(John 1:1) All have sinned and fall short of Gods perfect standard (Romans 3:10) The wages of sin is death but the free gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ (Romans 6:23) God loved the world so much that he gave is only son to die on a cross that whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)
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+Eterniti Forum "but this data and observations are explained with evolution" There is only one way to continue with biological research, and that is by collecting the data. If we ASSUME an evolutionary model that we don't really accept as true, we may as well be lobotomized. Each minute detail of information gathered shows us which way to look next - you have no idea how a science backed by centuries of data depends on the information gathered. To claim it's being manipulated or that lobotomized characters from Alice's Wonderland are doing the research is ridiculous.
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+Eterniti Forum When was the last time you stormed into a high-performance auto workshop and told the mechanics they were making it all up? Why do you think you can do this to to highly trianed, highly intelligent career scientists?
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This binary argument over which theory/belief we should teach our children and saying that the other "has no place" is not beneficial to learning. By teaching one or the other, we are teaching kids to accept ideas at face value and not to think. Learning happens when ideas are challenged and positions are modified.
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+Alan Clarke Because the evidence for evolution thing has been done to death and you are still beating it even though you lost 150 years ago.
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Anger at God common, even among atheists ...people get angry at God all the time, especially about everyday disappointments, finds a new set of studies in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology. It's not just religious folks, either. People unaffiliated with organized religion, atheists and agnostics also report anger toward God either in the past, or anger focused on a hypothetical image - that is, what they imagined God might be like - said lead study author Julie Exline, Case Western Reserve University psychologist. In studies on college students, atheists and agnostics reported more anger at God during their lifetimes than believers. source: http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/01/anger-at-god-common-even-among-atheists/
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+Alan Clarke "31.5% of the world's population denies it". Lies, damned lies and statistics. Over 30,000 breakaway cults of the "One True Faith" suggest there are many, many, different perceptions of who exactly "YOUR" god really is, Alan. 1) Our household of atheists and 'doubters' ticked "Christian" at the last census. Presumably we weren't the only ones. 2) Your God is not defined in any way that eliminates argument over his identity. Thus lives are lost in disputes over who has got the best guess. 3) Many leading Christians have struggled with doubt, even openly stating their denial on occasions - eg. Mother Theresa, Pope Francis (and several past Popes), Martin Luther, John Calvin, CS Lewis, and Voltaire among others. 4) "“I think, when a man says, ‘I never doubt,’ it is quite time for us to doubt him ..." Charles Spurgeon, 'Father of Persuasion Through The Word' (Spurgeon also advocated that each sub-denomination should never associate with another).
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+Alan Clarke "31.5% of the world's population denies it. Maybe you're in a state of denial?" They don't Alan. You have your own version of the deity of the abrahamic mythology. You took that fictional character and added your own characteristics and belief to it, just like all religious people. Per instance, the majority of christians accept that life has evolved and think their fictional deity had a hand in it. You don't. Thus, you have a different version of the abrahamic deity.
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If evolution is so concrete and imperical, why isn't it the Law of Evolution instead of the Theory of Evolution...hmmm
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+Nicholas Christie-Blick Yes, absolutely, I would agree with that. That's the most frustrating part for me.
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Bill Nye has a BS degree in mechanical engineering.  He is no more a scientist, than Al Sharpton is a reverend.
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Your ugly ass face is inappropriate for children but you don't see me complaining!
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God made satan and lies so that the bad wheat would be weeded out from the good wheat. What we need are more truth seekers.
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+ergonomover Islam and atheism are crap. Next! 
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i challenge any Godless atheist to support the lies that they spread
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+andrzej2501 wow real mature...you are a waste of time and space enjoy your demise girl
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+greg watchman Well, I was just mimicking your "style" - throwing baseless insults in lieu of arguments. BTW: why are you referring to me as a girl? Heeeey.... I know! You are attracted to me but you are in denial! Sorry, I'm not gay and even if I were I don't date retarded or crazy people. Anyway you should consult a psychologist and come out of the closet - it could be a big step towards your psychical health...
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It's quiet. Too quiet. I sense a storm coming.
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+matchlockfun Christianity will be a thorn in our arse for a long time yet, I was referring to bible literalist cretinism. Christianity has a monopoly on death especially concerning war remembrance days, I can no longer pay my respects to those fallen in war on public memorial days because of the amount of religious content and the constant praying and thanking of gods for their deaths.
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How Did Fruit Fly Evolve with Ant Images on Wings? http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/science/fruit-fly-with-the-wings-of-beauty#ixzz2jhxlLGaH How does Darwinian evolution explain this? One commenter on uncommondescent.com posted this: "There is no way such an accurate picture of an ant could appear on the wings of a fruit fly by random chance. Why? Because evolution requires small gradual changes that must be selected over many generations. No small part of the picture can ever be selected and retained because it offers no survival advantage to the fly. Future random variations would just destroy any bit of the unrecognizable image simply because there is no survival advantage to keep it. Randomness creates chaos, not order. Besides, how did the fly survive without the ant picture on its wings to begin with?" - Mapou http://goo.gl/pbFRN4
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+Gary Bell I guess it depends which one is dominant.
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+ExtantFrodo2   In the KJV Balaam's talking jackass was female but in the NIV they realized that gawd talking with a female voice was too gay so they changed the text from "moved her to speak" to "and it spoke", misogyny is alive and well in the stupidity of modern Christians. 
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To those that believe the universe was created just 6000 years ago:  Now that we know there are estimated 100 billion galaxies in the visible universe.   How would you be able to fit all those galaxies in a space (sphere) of diameter 12,000 light-years?  Our Milky Way itself is estimated at 1M light-years across.
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+Alan Clarke You have to admit, by conceding speciation happens you are one step closer to accepting everything, including the kitchen sink!  My definition, let's see... Change in allele frequency within populations over successive generations. Something to that effect.  
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NoScienceForYouToday said this - "Nearly 2300 people have gone to my (no free publicity for GSFY's homepage) because of you guys, just recently. Thanks for the help. The more you talk about me the more people want to find my site. I am all over the internet because of your help. I see my name mentioned on many other forums. Thanks. The total is over 10,000 people so far and climbing every day" How he's allowed to try to drag himself out of poverty through the medium of a forum about religion is anyone's guess.
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+Jake Paul  Al does look like a poorly disguised, vision impaired, male patterned character from Bram Stoker.
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+Jake Paul They've exchanged a few words, but not for a long time - like two demented team-dogs, who know the best way to avoid conflict is to pretend they can't see each other.
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Something can't come from nothing. If there is nothing, How  can "something" switch "nothing" into "something" if there is "nothing" there in the first place? Please don't tell me you don't know... I've heard Bill Nye say that, and it makes him sound like he doesn't know what he's talking about.
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+LoneStarArcher 'The same can apply to you.' ... How? 'By you atheists saying you don't know, You are blowing hot air.' How is saying 'I don't have a way to answer this or any knowledge to answer it with' blowing hot air? How is acknowledging a lack of knowledge blowing hot air? By that standard you should always make shit up when you don't understand something. 'But if you don't even know what was before the big bang,  It's all nonsense if you don't have an explanation..' You don't need to understand the finite, intricate workings of how fire functions in order to be able to use it... Hell, we could take this claim all the way back and say 'because we don't know where the universe came from, we don't know how fire works'...Your claim is asinine... You don't have to answer every single friggin' question in order to have a view of something. In polar opposition to this, you don't have any answers for anything that you are capable of backing up, so by your own standards you don't have a leg to stand on at all. Maybe next time you could make a set of standards that doesn't completely destroy your own position when it's applied to you and then we can have a conversation.
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No; evolution is not appropriate for children!
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you know what, i see why so many christians (I'm christian) don't believe in evolution. its been in our understanding that evolution doesn't exist and that humans just came from God, basically out of dust/dirt/sand?.... (nowhere). I feel like humans did come from God but I don't think that humans came from nothing. Look at the filipino race. they were asians and then Spain came over, had some fun and then the race of filipinos were born. I'm filipino and over time, we as a race changed in appearance. I feel like people did change over huge periods of time which leads to the conclusion that evolution does exist. before the catholic church had been wrong before such as the neolithic and neolithic beliefs. Humans can be wrong. we can be wrong. Catholicism can be wrong. does that mean their bad people? No, but I'm just saying we all have a possibility of being wrong and that that shouldn't hinder us from the information we have now. Im a christian and I believe in evolution. I dont think that one day chimps just turned into a human one day but i believe that over time we get smarter and smarter with some genetic traits towards survival get passed down such as phobias. why you hating?
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Evolution is the basses’ for everything? Where did the energy come from then to evolve in the first place then? Evolution makes the world simpler? If we evolved why are we nice to disabled people, and offer help to them shouldn’t we let them die off, because we don’t want to mess up our natural section? He didn’t even justify his opinion, to well either. And He can’t really say there is no evidence of God without looking it up, the bible has some evidence that it must have been written by God. it's not to nice to say we evolved and then not be able dig up a missing link in the ground and show it to your kid.
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+Owen Atkins You seem to have pressed reply twice. I assume it was a technical glitch in the mouse/keyboard due to the copious amounts of spit from your constant dribbling.
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+yojoe O seriously, I can't even provide a reasonable response to this comment. sigh see Bill Nye, this is the problem. How are parents going to educate their children when they can't even type properly in their native language? I'm sorry but please PLEASE don't have sex.
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"Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! The enemy has been PUT TO THE SWORD and their remainder have FLED THE BATTLEFIELD! I'm simply ROBBING THE CARCASSES of their SLAIN and LOOTING, as all VICTORIOUS armies do! It's a time-honoured tradition! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!" So religious proselytisation is simply a cover for land-grabbing and plundering the wealth and possessions of others, eh Eddy? Thanks for confirming that !
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+AllHailDiskordia "And once more you admit how boring you are...." Ugh! BORING! "...Self-knowledge is the first step to recovery." So, now you know you're PART-MONGOL, do you feel you're recovering, Fritz? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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+Zaki Aminu Google translate wird dir nicht wirklich weiterhelfen, Cletus, das Programm macht halt Fehler. Anyway, cool story, Cletus, how is your sex life?
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Another pompous materialist.
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+Jake Paul Jake, thank you for the clarification. With regard to looking to science for proof of God, I suppose that will never satisfy your quest, as you will never find graffiti in any galaxy proclaiming "God was here." I do believe that if one considers the mathematical underpinnings of astro physics, how exact and precise everything must be for the existence of life on earth, one could walk away believing in a higher intelligence behind it all...but, that is simply one's own perspective, not a given. For me, I look to the history of the Jewish people, including the centrality of the super small State of Israel in world affairs and crises, as proof that the God of the Bible (and not the Quran) is indeed the sovereign of world history. Every major milestone of Jewish history, including today's, was prophesied by the prophets of the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament thousands of years in advance. For me, that's the proof...but, I don't expect that to speak to everyone. Even the intensity, universality, and longevity of Anti-semitism, which I believe can only be explained metaphysically, is a proof (for me) of a both the existence of a spiritual world beyond this physical one, and that world's interface with this one.
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Bill nye is a freak. My school idolizes a guy with no knowledge. Our lady of fatima, Lourdes,stigmata, the incorruptible a. Evolution is fake. God is testing our faith. What about Isaac Newton. He was a creationist.
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I am not taking sciences side. We beleive in creation and evolution. They can be harmonized.
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+alvin tervree Do you still believe in a young earth?
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Bill Nye science guy, I'm sorry but evolution has nothing to do with engineering. And the most complicated thing is evolution, because it does not make any sense .
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+David Demyan There is a definite order to the fossils over time. Specifically, there are no apes below the 1st primates, no primates below the 1st synapsids, no synapsids below the 1st dinosaurs, no dinosaurs below the 1st diapsids, no diapsids below the 1st tetrapods, no tetrapods below the 1st fish, no fish below the 1st animals. That's what we call a progression. It is not explained by creationism. It is very well explained by evolution.
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+David Demyan So little time and so many brainless fools that refuse all forms of education, you are right about one thing though, you don't require evidence for your backward Middle Eastern beliefs, you don't acknowledge evidence fed to your pie hole and I doubt you have the intellect exceeding a sheep. 
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My brain is so enormous, they had to take some of it out and keep it in a jar.
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+GruverHavenMade lobotomy, that explains a lot.
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bill nye will go to a lost eternity when he dies if he does not repent and accept Jesus....so lets debate that you godless groupies afraid of truth...not empirical but absolute truth
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+greg watchman And now you don't know what an argument from ignorance is. And it seems you didn't answer Greg, is the Hudson Bay haunted because it looks like a ghost reaching down?  If not, then your claim that Jesus exist because the middle east looks like a man kneeling with an angel is pure shit.
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+Atharkas well for one you are wrong again....if you have not witnessed or read my evidence on my blog proving the seal of creation then IN FACT YOU DO ARGUE FROM IGNORANCE (not knowing) and your silly example means nothing...that would be like my stating evolution was not true because frogs dont have wings...its like arguing with a 5th grader and by the way i wouldnt expect you to see truth as you dont believe in God and yet many people approx. 85% will see and confirm the imagery...the ones that dont resist truth ...but hey this is all academic as God stated years ago that you would denial truth
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Bill Nye says: "So, once in a while I get people that really—or that claim—they don't believe in evolution. And my response generally is "Well, why not? Really, why not?" Your world just becomes fantastically complicated when you don't believe in evolution." That is the funniest thing I have EVER heard. So let me see Bill Nye the science guy ... are you saying that from nothing came something? Then from chaos came order? Ya better get back into your Quantum Mechanics books & read them again.
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lol Incorrect Bill.. No evidence for Creation? In reality there is none for Evolution and is solely based on faith... How? a scientific method is based on the collection of Data through observation and experimentation. That's how one arrives from hypothesis to theory. And Darwin evolution says that there will be a change of kind (macroevolution),  Yet there is no Observable evidence for the Theory of Evolution, because it all happened between 6 to 100 million years ago, So with that said i question if it is really even a theory at all. It can't be seen, and is not testable over time, So my conclusion is that evolution is not really scientific fact but must be faith based. Saying that Darwin's finches evolved is a mistake, they clearly have adapted and have not become a different kind or something completely different, like a snake, they are still birds.
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+Fly WEST You: In a community that claims to be fact driven why believe in something that can't be proven? Me: The scientific use of the word "theory" does not mean "mere speculation" as the colloquial use implies. It is something that has explanatory and predictive powers, and importantly, can be falsified. For example, the theory of evolution explains why marine life evolved before terrestrial life, predicts where transitional fossils between marine and terrestrial life could be found, and can be falsified by finding evidence of the first terrestrial life in layers that are more ancient than those in which it was predicted to appear. A theory can never be proven - at best we can only say that after a scientific theory was proposed, it has been a good model for predicting and has so far failed to be falsified. The more it withstands the tests of prediction and of falsification, the more we can consider it to be "proven" but it could never be proven absolutely. You: if something has overwhelming evidence, why is it still not fact. Yet many treat evolution like it is. and even say it? i'm confused on that. Me: For similar reasons I explained above, scientific theories are not promoted into facts. Facts (such as finding marine life fossils below the fossils for terrestrial life) are what are used to support the theory.
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Albert Einstein Quote: In consideration of the cosmos the order of the universe witch I with my limited human mind am able to perceive. Yet there are those who say there is no God. What makes me really angry is when they quote me in support of such views.
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+otonabeeave Awww - did I hurt your feelings? Sorry 'bout that. Perhaps once you get over it, you can take a stab at why you continue to use 19th-century arguments that have been refuted almost as long ago. (Google it)
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Atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color, like 'off' is a tv channel and like abstinence is a sexual position. Since we've been over this tired failed argument here before, do we need to look at both Webster and Oxford to see atheism defined as the disbelief or lack of belief in god(s)? Rather boring, no?
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One minute Nye is opposed to GMO's, then after meeting with the scientist at Monsanto, he all of the sudden changed his tune! Bill Nye: bought & paid for by the corporate suits at Monsanto!
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+ExtantFrodo2 Do you have an example or where Pesher has been shown to be wrong? Do you realize that what you are considering is akin to treating the "Da Vinci Code" as non-fiction? Aren't you skeptical of that kind of stuff? See http://creation.com/barbara-thiering-a-short-critique for a short critique on Barbara Thiering. If you don't trust that, then read what Wikipedia has to say: "James F. McGrath, an Associate Professor in the Religion and Philosophy department at Butler University in his 1996 review of the book states that Thiering's thesis lacks proof, and that she herself acknowledges that the pesher of the Revelation of St. John is her own composition." - Wikipedia "Barbara Thiering" I debated Professor McGrath (http://www.godofevolution.com/did-jesus-believe-in-a-six-day-creation-and-a-literal-adam) who is so far from early Biblical Christian theology that you would probably love him (compared to me) but not even he can take Barbara Thiering seriously. Wikipedia's assessment of Thiering gets even worse: In 1993 N. T. Wright, New Testament historian and former Bishop of Durham, wrote: "It is safe to say that no serious scholar has given this elaborate and fantastic theory any credence whatsoever. It is nearly ten years since it was published; the scholarly world has been able to take a good look at it: and the results are totally negative."
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+Alan Clarke "Do you realize that what you are considering is akin to treating the "Da Vinci Code" as non-fiction?" Yet another false claim from the frightened fundie. The Da Vinci code is popular fiction and is called so. The Pesher scroll is dated to the same origin as the Dead Sea scrolls it was found with. It is a serious study, and despite your pathetic attempted character assassination (by WIKIPEDIA no less!!) of one of its researchers, it remains yet to be disproven. One example of a wrong sustitutive code will do it, yet we don't have one yet. The scroll gives examples, for god's sake. If it's a fraud, it's a 2000 year old fraud. But given all your patheitic attempts at denial here, I'd say you're the likely fraud candidate.
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"Suppose that every memory, written word, and piece of technology on Earth was destroyed all at once, leaving humanity to start completely from scratch. Everything we have come to know about science would eventually be discovered again. Given a few thousand years, people would figure out chemistry, and rediscover the same elements we know now. People would once again understand biology, including its evolutionary origins. People would eventually see the motions of other galaxies in the sky, and work out the details of the Big Bang. This is the glorious part about science – it can and would be replicated. I can assure you, however, that your story about a talking snake would be gone forever." Not sure who the author is.
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+Zaki Aminu, "You're ABSOLUTELY DESPERATE not to contemplate the EXISTENCE OF GOD, aren't you? " Not at all. If there was evidence provided that pointed to that direction I would be open to it. I'm not the one equating an eternal universe with a man in the sky who tells people when to not eat apples. That's you.
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This is why I never take him seriously
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+Saba Bajwa "lol I mean if that's your way to deal with atheists I don't blame you inshallah we progress and be stronger atleast we accept Allah." Rejection of Allah is rejection of EXISTENCE! That is what Atheism is - NIHILISM! Hahahahahahahahahaha!
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Imagine the day evolutionary biology is outlawed from college coursework. Now imagine you're a creationist lecturer in genetics. Now try to fill out the first half-hour of your first lecture with all the data and information gathered by creationists instead of the current knowledge-base. Now try to imagine how you'd fill out the first entire lecture, or the next one. Or an entire course of lectures. What the hell would you find to talk about?
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+Gary Bell Normally true, but in this example the students are real ones. Poetic license and all that.
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+matchlockfun    Geology too would be a fun course, all wrapped up by morning tea.
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BY DEFINITION, NO PRODUCT CAN BE THE ORIGIN OF ALL ELSE - BECAUSE ALL PRODUCTS ARE PRECEDED BY THEIR PRODUCER! THEREFORE THE PRODUCER OF ALL ELSE CANNOT BE A PRODUCT, BUT MUST HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AND WILL ALWAYS BE! Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Atheists are happy to accept that - as long as this ORIGIN OF ALL ELSE is not said to be INTELLIGENT! THEY INSIST IT MUST BE COMPLETELY STUPID - i.e. JUST MATERIAL SUBSTANCE! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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Not dodging at all. You just keep saying the same thing over and over so its clear you're basically going to ignore anything someone else says. The definition of dogmatic ignorance. Close-minded like a good ol' religious boy. Also, "in regards" was in regards to you failing miserably at trying to sound smart - if you want to do that, ditch the fairy tales for starters. You're doing it wrong.  Our universe may not be eternal, especially considering the big bang is true. But whats not to say that the proponents that existed beforehand weren't? Or before that? etc. etc.  Also, absolutely no evidence suggests our universe will have an ending. Its growing faster and faster, and that could very well go on "eternally."  And are you saying you only believe in a "god" character because you can't cope with something coming from nothing? Again, electrons do that all of the time, literally popping out of our plain of existence, and popping up in another place in a seemingly random order. Thus, quantum physics exists.  Which all-mighty god? You just make one up? Im guessing you follow the Abrahamic religion because of your blatant distaste for homosexuality. That and your obscene remarks, which again is a common christian trait. Judging... psssh, thats not your job, is it? Well that and the reason you think we need souls for the "afterlife." The soul thing is a huge bunch of silliness. Let me guess... "blah blah blah, empty atheist souls can't understand faith." Enjoy life on your knees, shackled to your master. 
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+Spencer Knuttila "Not dodging at all. You just keep saying the same thing over and over so its clear you're basically going to ignore anything someone else says....." Hahahahahahahahahahaha! I'm REPEATING MY MAIN POINTS SO THAT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO SAY THAT ONE HAS NOT SEEN THEM - OR THAT THEY'RE UNCLEAR - OR THAT I AM DEPARTING FROM THEM! "....The definition of dogmatic ignorance. ..." Hahahahahahahahahaha! That MUST be the ATHEISTIC definition of "dogmatic ignorance" then, eh? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! In ANY STANDARD DICTIONARY of the English language though, you will find that "dogmatic ignorance" means something VERY DIFFERENT from my position - WHICH IS VERY CLEAR, LOGICALLY CONSISTENT, and UNCHANGING! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! ".....Close-minded like a good ol' religious boy..." Hahahahahahahahahaha! I'm ABSOLUTELY CLOSED-MINDED on 1+1 being 2. Are YOU OPEN-MINDED on that? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "...Also, "in regards" was in regards to you failing miserably at trying to sound smart - if you want to do that, ditch the fairy tales for starters. You're doing it wrong...." Hahahahahahahahahahaha! I can't help it if I give you an INFERIORITY COMPLEX, can I? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....Our universe may not be eternal, especially considering the big bang is true...." THERE IS ONLY ONE UNIVERSE! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "...But whats not to say that the proponents that existed beforehand weren't?...." Hahahahahahahahahaha! WHICH "proponents" would these be? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! The UNIVERSE is the CONTAINER OBJECT in which ALL EVENTS AND OBJECTS EXIST! THERE IS NO UNIVERSE OUTSIDE THE UNIVERSE! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "...Or before that? etc. etc...." Hahahahahahahahahaha! This is just another attempt to re-introduce INFINITE REGRESSION, is it not? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! INFINITE REGRESSION is ABSURD because to arrive at present conditions, a process lasting a FINITE INTERVAL OF TIME would have been necessary! If it were not so, IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO ARRIVE AT PRESENT CONDITIONS FROM A STATE AND INFINITE TIME AGO! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "...Also, absolutely no evidence suggests our universe will have an ending. Its growing faster and faster, and that could very well go on "eternally."..." Hahahahahahahahahaha! I AGREE! SO WHERE IS IT GETTING THE RESOURCES FOR ITS FURTHER GROWTH - IF NOT FROM OMNIPOTENCE? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! ".....And are you saying you only believe in a "god" character because you can't cope with something coming from nothing?...." SOMETHING COMING FROM NOTHINGNESS IS AN ABSOLUTE ABSURDITY! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....Again, electrons do that all of the time, literally popping out of our plain of existence, and popping up in another place in a seemingly random order. Thus, quantum physics exists....." Hahahahahahahahaha! That's just IGNORANT NONSENSE! NO SUCH THING EVER HAPPENS! And, if you believe in such things, WHY DO YOU DENY THAT YOU BELIEVE IN MAGIC? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! ".....Which all-mighty god? You just make one up?...." Hahahahahahahahahaha! If you believe that SOMETHING CAN COME OUT OF NOTHINGNESS, ON WHAT GROUNDS DO YOU RULE OUT THE EXISTENCE OF GOD THEN - OR INDEED ANYTHING? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....Im guessing you follow the Abrahamic religion because of your blatant distaste for homosexuality....." Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! You're a FAGGOT, aren't you? That's what this is all about for you, isn't it? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....That and your obscene remarks, which again is a common christian trait....." Hahahahahahahahahaha! WHAT is "obscene" about saying that it is UNHYGIENIC to plunge your cock into a SHIT HOLE - whether it belongs to man, woman, beast, or bird? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! WHY DO YOU LIKE SHOVING SHIT UPHILL? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....Judging... psssh, thats not your job, is it?..." Well, I was just saying.....! You don't mind, do you? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "...Well that and the reason you think we need souls for the "afterlife."...." THERE IS NO YOU WITHOUT YOUR SOUL! YOU ARE YOUR SOUL! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....The soul thing is a huge bunch of silliness...." HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT - ATHEISTIC GUT FEELING? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....Let me guess..." Is that wise? GUESSWORK NEVER LEADS TO ANYTHING ONE CAN RELY ON, does it? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "......"blah blah blah, empty atheist souls can't understand faith."...." Hahahahahahahahahahaha! Atheists are RESIGNED TO THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE NO FUTURE! Is this not so? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....Enjoy life on your knees..." I KNEEL ONLY BEFORE THE TRUTH - JOYFULLY! I FOLLOW WHEREVER IT LEADS - WITHOUT HESITATION; LIKE A SHEEP FOLLOWING ITS MASTER! ATHEISTS ARE FREE TO REBEL AGAINST THE TRUTH IF THEY WISH! I REFUSE TO FOLLOW THEIR EXAMPLE! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....shackled to your master." MY ONLY MASTER IS THE TRUTH - WHICH I FOLLOW WITH ALL MY HEART - AS A SHEEP FOLLOWS ITS SHEPHERD! LET ATHEISTS WANDER WITHOUT THE GUIDANCE OF THE TRUTH IF THEY WISH! I SHALL NEVER BE FOUND AMONGST THEIR NUMBER! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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Ya'know Bill, I think I'll be the one to decide what is and isn't appropriate for my children.
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+FreedomR115 I actually agree with you, and if I had my way, the religious influence would be reduced to ZERO. But government doesn't work that way. 
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+FreedomR115 This is where the controversy arises. Parents have the responsibility to educate their children. And they have to right to teach them what they believe to be RIGHT and WRONG. But you also have to keep in mind that YOU are not your child. Your children need to find the answers themselves. Of course, indoctrinated parents never will see themselves as indoctrinated because "they are righteous." Arrogance is a fatal flaw in our society. Especially in the US, where 75% of the population is religious. Just watch FOX news and you'll get a decent idea of what the general populous thinks like. It's shameful.
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I am a Christian and saying that we have no proof of our religion is just crazy. Go ahead and ask me anything and I will bring proof. One for example people say the bible is all a lie yet all the people all the places and all the events have been proven with eye witness, historical accounts, and even archaeological dig's. Also let me just put out there before someone asks this question the "Big Bang" did happen, our earth did start that way. So let's say that we could watch the Big Bang happen, what would it look like... It would look like a explosion of light, right? And that is exactly how the bible says it happens. But please ask me anything and I will try my best to show you the truth.
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+Tyler P. "God won't let you into heaven if you do not believe in him." Why not? It would be very easy for him to present evidence that would assure I believe in him. Meanwhile he know I can't believe in him without evidence, so who is to blame for my not believing?     Why would anyone (including a god) respect unfounded beliefs unless they wish to foster the continuity of ignorance? That's just something religious people cry over because if their beliefs were under critical thought and scrutiny, it wouldn't get very far.     Do you think a god would care if you believe in him? If that was at all important to him he would provide a lot more than just isolated rumors of long past events and confirmation bias. If one thing is very clear in the bible it is that it is only that some of the kind of actions inspired by faith are pleasing to god. Sadly it's also apparent that the biblical god expects us to accept the edicts of his spokesmen without question and to know which spokesmen are his and not deceivers (despite these 2 requirements being at odds with each other and no evidence to use to discern valid truths). When you realize this book is just a huge tool to get control of populations so the clergy can live on the dole(tithe) with the cushiest jobs that a primitive barbarian could ask for, you begin to see it in perspective.
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Chimps are actually primitive humans. Our ancestors, at one point, would have been virtually indistinguishable from them.
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+Doc Reasonable  Fact is chimps changed a lot too, which makes your argument irrelevant, and the argument before simply wrong, so much for who the tard is. Get a fucking education for crying out loud, god you are pathetic
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+mia wick Explain the changes you think chimps have undergone over the last 8 million years... or STFU, you blubbering, pretentious retard. Come on, what have you got, cretin???
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A speech on the THEORY of evolution.... its still a theory after how long? Come on Bill.
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There is evidence of God's existence everywhere, but you choose to ignore it. How many here are scientists? And how many of you take what others tell you for granted? Can you prove that God doesn't exist? Finally, when you see a car you know that some one or something made it, why would it be any different with the Universe. I'm ending this debate before any of us says something we may regret. May God show you the truth.
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Where is this said proof? We don't ignore it, It does not exist. Logical fallacy, appeal to credibility. You say that sense we are not real scientists with degrees. Then we can't talk about science. I don't take any thing for granted. As for what creationists say. I know that their bullocks speech holds no water in reality. I can prove that your god does not exist. A car is a machine. Of course it was invented and made by a person. However, we do know how the Universe came to be and the various natural processes that did it. None of them speak of any god. There is no evidence supporting a god. That is why we don't believe it.
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Please give one example.
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How can people agree with what this man said? That's such authoritarian and intolerant mindset... This behaviour of ridiculing other people's ideas and believes is poison in society. What's the believe in creationism interfere in how an engineer works?????????? That's absolutely retarded comparison! He also compared the fact there are similar stars to the sun in the universe with evolution. hahaha! With these "great" power of analogy I wonder how he performs in an IQ test... He actually never accomplished anything in science, only repeat like a parrot other people's theories. I don't exactly believe in Creationism or Evolution. I have the right to do so! As I never analysed the data on evolution, I'm not going to repeat like a parrot what some people say, even more those making stupid analogies such as comparing animals and stars. There are a few scientists that stopped believing evolution after analysing data and noticing how a lot were incomplete and some uncertain... mostly the evolution of cetaceans. Let's not forget 60 years ago scientists were certain the universe was infinite and always there, and now they are almost certain they were completely wrong. Then a bigot like this one makes it harder to discover different theories, because they are so certain of something that isn't really certain. And actually, some of the most outstanding scientists in human history were Creationists. This guy can dream of someday making different to humanity as Isaac Newton did.
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+PF Woody You: Let's not forget 60 years ago scientists were certain the universe was infinite and always there, and now they are almost certain they were completely wrong. Me: And there's the beauty of science. It is self-correcting, unlike religion which is pure dogma, delivered all too often with the threat of execution over non-belief. By the way, did you ever notice that when science corrects itself, it is NEVER because someone reached into a 2,000 year-old text and said "Hey - you scientists are wrong because Yahweh said so on page xxx". Instead, it is always the other way around - when scientists discovered that the universe is expanding and must have originated from a singularity, bible thumpers are always so quick to jump on the bandwagon and say "Ahhh - that's what Yahweh meant when he said 'Let there be light'" and attempt to shoehorn biblical passages into the best known science of the time. Advances in science have never come from religion.
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+PF Woody You: We have free speech and are allowed to ridicule the influential citizens impositions. That's actually our obligation in case we like our freedom. Me: I'm glad you agree to guarantee our right to criticize bad ideas such as those of an invisible sky-monsters. You know what other freedoms we have? It's a free country and everyone has the right to make fools of themselves. As Thunderf00t aptly said about the marketplace of ideas - "The Internet: where religions come to die".
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I love Bill Nye because he is so calm and passionate without making himself rude.
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+Alan Clarke A creationist in the sense of Christianity as it is commonly used. I don't believe the Earth is 8,000 years old, not that it was never created. 
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"LET THE RECORD SPEAK FOR ITSELF - AND PEOPLE JUDGE FOR THEMSELVES! I'm happy with that - WHY AREN'T YOU?" So why do you keep posting wacky? How many records do want speaking for your fantasies.
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+Zaki Aminu Why can't this Universe be the only reality? Alternatively why would you need an Ultimate reality, why not just multiple realities? If you have evidence present it. If you only have an inference you don't have evidence.
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Wow, Bill Nye is so stupid. I'm surprised he's even a scientist, because religious beliefs and modern society are 2 different things. How will believing that our grandma was a monkey and worshiping Darwin help the children grow up? Believing in where we came from and our main focus in life is a very important aspect. If creationism is not appropriate, then why spend life believing that we had no purpose to even exist on this planet? Better yet in this universe? The problem with scientists is that they try to explain everything, that's what is leading to all of this confusion.
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Bill nye is with the illuminati
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+xxSTEELSICKNESSxx And because you're not getting graded for it, you allow your laziness to get the better of your writing, just like you allow your laziness get the better of reading a "long ass speech" and more importantly, just like you allow your laziness to accept an easy answer that includes sky wizardry in place of the more difficult task of actually thinking scientifically. I thought so...
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stop trying to be such a smart ass
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All these creationists and still we are the country that are the innovators? Holds everyone back? hmm doesn't sound like it. Sorry all you foaming at the mouth atheists but it had to said. Japan? You mean the country that almost destroyed our car industry? What the fuck is this dude talking about? Man believe in whatever you want even if I think it's stupid or crazy because that's what it means to be an American. Could maybe it be because of the creationists that our country is still the innovators? After all they do have a natural inclination to drive the very boundaries of God's creation where as the monkey believers just say fuck it.
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+pdxeddie1111 "However, the biggest gap between American self-perceptions and how others perceive us is with regard to religiosity. In much of western Europe, the U.S. as a country is considered too religious – our 2005 poll found that majorities in France and the Netherlands and pluralities in Britain and Germany see the U.S. this way. By contrast, a 58% majority of Americans say their country is not religious enough. On this point, Muslims find themselves in rare agreement with the American public; majorities in Indonesia, Pakistan, Lebanon, Turkey, and Jordan all believe the U.S. is not religious enough." (Pew Institute, 2007) Sorry to bother you again, but should the US listen to secular, free societies of Western Europe or Islamic theocracies?
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Nicholas. Before you 'throw the book at me' again could you answer this? Why is that book for free? Aren't most things that are free usually... oh I don't know, worthless?
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+FreedomR115 And to think that you actually believe that all of this is true. My deepest condolences.
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+mikecucuk Well they're not EXACTLY aliens but... would you look at the time? Gotta go!
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wait what happened to the true MERICA why are we have atheism shoved down are throats
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The point of the video is interesting but they should have had a better person to speak for it. Bill is just acting very arrogant by saying people who don't believe in an idea are holding humanity back and are not scientifically literate. I'm an Electrical Engineering student and doing my minor is physics and Evolution never comes up, God never comes up; no one cares what you believe in. A lot of people in the scientific community hold their own personal views on God, some are religious, some are atheists, some believe in God just to the extent of an order into the universe and you know what that's fine because they still make great physicists, engineers or mathematicians. In my experience people in the scientific community have a very open mind, I don't have to believe in your idea as a truth to understand it and use it while a better one is found, this is what science is, we know so many of our principles and laws are probably wrong and some of us even believe so but we still use them for as much they work and keep trying to find better models. I think this video just shows how arrogant Bill's views are, he thinks someone is not a scientifically literate and not eligible to vote just because he disagrees with him. I'm not trying to undermine the bad consequences of religions and everything but grouping people are literate and illiterate based on your own views, well we've seen that in religion haven't we? This is the seed of extremism, first you just want to ignore them and halt their ideology, then you want to get rid of them, then you kill them all based on your own view.
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+Mindstealth "the problem arises when people try to extrapolate that data."    Extrapolating is a scientific way of predicting. Predictions of evolutionary theory have been shown to be valid over and over again. If evolution was wrong, why would those predictions prove true?
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Bill Nye is hoping Kent Hovind doesn't get released from Prison because Bill Nye fears Kent Hovind. I believe the earth is only around 6000 years old. Amen God Bless Kent Hovind and bring him home to his family.
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Same here Jesus is my Lord and savior. Creationism is relevant and always will be. I am not going to force my kids to become christian like me, but I will always go to church. If they want to follow me, then they can.
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Theoretical physicist Paul Davies has said that “the appearance of design is overwhelming” and Oxford professor Dr. John Lennox has said “the more we get to know about our universe, the more the hypothesis that there is a Creator . . . gains in credibility as the best explanation of why we are here.”
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+33sylvia33 "Common sense and conclusions from studying" Studying will not help you if you allow things that have nothing to do with science cloud your judgement. i.e. religion. Why do you suppose god gave flightless birds wings? Why did he give leg and pelvic rudiments to snakes and whales? Why did he make over 350,000 species of beetle? Why did he design humans with two blind spots in their optic nerves? Why did he provide chickens with genes for teeth? and on and on.. If you find the story of Noah's Ark or the talking snake in the Garden of Eden believable, yet fail to find any truth in evolution, a subject which has been verified and proven by a confluence of science, then you clearly are not examining the arguments objectively. Then again, religion is far from objective...Objectivity is something science always strives for.
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+ExtantFrodo2 DB(A) is not suitable for infrasound detection. It is weighted to the audible range. Read the Cape Bridgewater study I recommended. Another interesting study is "Wind Turbines can be Hazardous to Human Health" by Alec N. Salt, Ph.D.  found at  http://oto2.wustl.edu/cochlea/wind.html
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The genome is a blueprint , much like the blueprints for buildings. When looking at the blueprints for various structures you can see how those similar in design were made in similar ways using similar methods and materials. When comparing the genome of similar organisms , again...you obviously see similarities. Those that have two eyes , opposable thumbs , or even hair , share a very similar make up , they are arranged the same way. The more seperate species are alike the more genetic material they have in common. Genetic similarity is not necessarily a family tree , but more of an illustration of how species are assembled. Its pure assumption that genetic similarity is part of an evolutionary map. Yeah I know , some of you armchair geniuses are gonna come back with your challenges and smart alec comments , but only the very simple would try to deny the point I am making here. 
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rabbit trails..........rabbit trails........you guys just dont know what to say to someone who dosent fit into your little categories. Seems your favorite tool in a debate are suggestive attacks on character. Thats ok , I knew you were like that. You hide inconsistencies in you owe philosophy by steering the conversation in a different direction. This conversation was entertaining for a while and wasted some free time but I think I will step out of "Bill and Teds excellent adventure" for a while. No harm done and no hard feelings , but you guys are a trip. I know you will return with another rude reply so that you can get the last word and feel like you "one upped" me. Take your best shot. 
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+Chris Spencer Aw, is the circus leaving town? Looking back, I note: you called for science to consider all possibilities, but omitted answering me whether it's possible you could be wrong and there's no 'designer'. You made the claim that genetic similarities don't prove evolution - a claim straight from numerous creationist websites, including evolutionnews (Discovery Institute). You said Christian scriptures spoke of a spherical earth, but actually KLV speaks of the 'circle of the earth' not the sphere. You wouldn't acknowledge my examples of how religion holds science back, you preferred to claim that science is held back when evidence-free possibilities (oogity-boogity) are not considered. You said you can't make the blind see, but you refuse to look at the Discovery Institute with me. You claimed science has never explained wings, but actually you simply reject out of hand the wealth of explanations. Maybe you'll have better luck with your mystery-mongering, your un-original and thinly-veiled religious attack on modern science elsewhere.
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why do u want teen like us to not belive in a devine creator?
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You: if we evolved from apes then why are there still apes Me: Really? Really??? • if Americans evolved from the British, why are there still British? • if mankind came from mud, why is there still mud? • if Eve evolved from a rib, why are there still ribs? (credit to one of my "accomplices" on this video for that one) I suggest you never use that "argument" again unless you enjoy embarrassing yourself.
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+isaiah ortiz heres the best answer to that question. if dogs evolved from wolves, why are there still wolves? also the same process that might give you your mothers eyes but your fathers nose is the same genetic process that allows new species to evolve and, over vast periods of time, new phylogenetic groups. what creationists call "kinds" is actually called phylogenetic groups. the more you know :)
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Creationists, including ID creationists, pathologically misrepresent the facts, laws, logic, theories, history, philosophy, methods and BASIC TERMINOLOGY of science because they are science illiterates whose religious convictions make them fearful of scientific inquiry. Example: They HABITUALLY misrepresent the scientific terms theory, law, transitional, evolution, vestigial, &c. Science illiterates should not define science policy or science curricula or misinform children about basic science.
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+ergonomover Dinos 'shrank' to become birds? Dino-to-bird evolution is again in the spotlight. Researchers recently used existing fossil data to explore how birds supposedly evolved. From their analysis, they conclude that the closer in form dinosaurs got to birds, the smaller the dinosaurs got. (see: http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/28563682) But from an evolutionary perspective, there is a flaw in their scenario. Archaeopteryx, a so-called 'advanced' form on the dino-to-bird evolutionary tree, is 'dated' to around 150 million years old. However, practically all the 'feathered dinosaurs' (supposedly more primitive in the alleged dino-to-bird transition) are 'dated' anywhere from 20 to 80 million years younger than Archaeopteryx! This is known as the 'grandfather paradox', where supposedly more 'primitive' fossil forms are in fact dated younger than the more 'advanced' forms (the grandfather younger than the children!). This might occur a few times by chance, since fossils form in a relatively random way. But such paradoxes are found in almost all the fossil evidence for dino-to-bird evolution! So, even if these fossils were real feathered dinosaurs, they would be irrelevant for dino-to-bird evolution. source: creation.com
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Evolution is not a fact it is a theory. There is tonnes of stuff proving evolution wrong, and scientists, instead of either saying "we dont know" or "maybe we were wrong" instead they make crazy assumptions. Wait until you can actually fix the holes in this absurd theory before stating it as fact. 
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+General Shamic They might, but there metabolism would have to  be extremely slow. There are bacteria miles underground which only replicate once every 10,000 years. That's how slow their metabolism is. It's very plausible similar life forms live underground on Mars. If Mars had life once it probably has some remnant somewhere.
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is it okay to be christian and to believe in evolution?
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I love Bill Nye. He is so funny. Science cannot understand nor answer questions about our existence so when another idea id bought fourth that science cannot understand, quantify, measure, or see, it must be wrong. Why not leave room for both ideas?
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Idiot Atheist: We humans evolved over time. Therefore I'm free to revel in irreligion. Hard Science: Plainly your brain didn't evolve. Evolution is bullshit, dumbass!
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The Big Bang contradicts the first Law of Thermodynamics. Meaning, that something can not come from nothing.
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+The Celestial Coffeepot it was pretty evil, seemed to be waiting for me and it just stared at me. Our dogs at the time saw it before I did, on our way to close the gate on our property. The dogs stopped so I did, I looked at them and the hair on their neck's were raised and then I saw it. Think I went into shock for a couple of seconds and ran like a man mad.
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+Jack lee I think you are well-equipped to imagine how primitive man looked at lightning and thunder in that case.
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Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually everyone will believe it. Adolf Hitler. That my friends is what evolution is, a big lie, that is told over and over, until now almost everyone believes it.
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+8bitsorcerer Yup. If science is too hard, there's always religion. It doesn't have very strict requirements. In fact you can make shit up on the spot and claim it is true. Challenge anyone who questions your claim with "Well can you prove an omnipotent being couldn't/didn't make it that way?" (as if that settles the matter). This allows the mentally challenged, the morally inept and the lazy to weasel they way into positions of power and influence. Now if only there was a way to stop them...
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+ExtantFrodo2 Ah, the true blessing of the internet is that it allows everyone access to information. And false information has a way of revealing itself. Hence the ever increasing number o atheism!
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In a nutshell.. RELIGION IS DUMB. 
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+AMF1134 Well, there's no rest for the wicked! That's true! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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But he doesn't say, in any way, that creationism is not appropriate for children
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+You are pathetic sad moron :) "as long as there is a being that rewards believing in it" That'll be the day.
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+ExtantFrodo2 You are truly a pathetic, sad, sad moron and i feel bad for you piece of thrash atheist
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The evidence is the national history of the Jewish people...all of which, including today's history, was prophesied thousands of years ago by inspired writers. For those who deny, like apes, that G-d reveals himself in nature...then, look to history. The Sovereign of history is moving history to its prophesied outcome.
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You has hear say arguments.
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REALITY can ONLY be VALIDATED through being CONSISTENT WITH LOGIC! So, when atheists speak of a "reality" that is INCONSISTENT with LOGIC and say it nevertheless has to be believed even though it is "COUNTER-INTUITIVE", one can be CERTAIN they're talking UTTER NONSENSE! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! ANY "reality" THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH LOGIC CANNOT EXIST INDEPENDENTLY OF THE MIND - AND IS THEREFORE NOTHING BUT A DELUSION! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! The EXISTENCE OF GOD is COMPLETELY CONSISTENT WITH LOGIC - AND ATHEISTS HAVE NOW BEEN REDUCED TO REJECTING IT ON THE GROUNDS THAT IT IS ONLY PROVABLE WITH LOGIC - and does not agree with THEIR "reality"! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! BUT, OF COURSE THE EXISTENCE OF GOD IS, AND MUST BE, CONTRARY TO ATHEISTIC "reality"! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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+Zaki Aminu Yes, it is my question, however, I would assume you would know the answer, speaking of dodging questions!  I'm sure you've read the bible cover to cover, right? Is there a reference to birds blood in the bible, yes or no and is it supposedly a cure for some illnesses? It's quite simple. Why can't you answer the question? I mean you would know the answer. 
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+Jake Paul "Yes, it is my question, however, I would assume you would know the answer, speaking of dodging questions!...." Hahahahahahahahaha! If you ask me why YOU LIKE BEING FUCKED IN THE ARSE BY ANOTHER MAN, I couldn't answer either! Hahahahahahahahahahaha! The CLAIM YOU MAKE, regarding bird's blood is NOT MINE - AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT IN THE BIBLE! Before asking ME to defend it, how about YOU prove that it is actually in the Bible? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "...I'm sure you've read the bible cover to cover, right?..." Yes, AND I DON'T RECALL READING ABOUT BIRD'S BLOOD OR ITS CURATIVE QUALITIES THERE! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....Is there a reference to birds blood in the bible, yes or no and is it supposedly a cure for some illnesses?..." I KNOW OF NO SUCH REFERENCE! If you know where it is, why not point me to it? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....It's quite simple. Why can't you answer the question? I mean you would know the answer. " I've given you my answer! Hahahahahahahaha!
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Evolution Creed and Oath: 2/ We only look at fossils that have never been seen living or even have a living relative, In spite of the fact that we have 90% of the now living or recently extinct, non bird, vertebrates as fossils and the farther back you go you see higher fitness for survival, We Evotards believe and take an oath that this shows evolution.  http://evolutionsciencenow.blogspot.com/2014/06/what-does-paleontology-show-as-far-as.html
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+GoodScienceForYou No, I don't. In fact, advances in medicine and medical technology have saved me from dying at one point in my life. You don't need to know any details beyond that, but this experience tells me that you're wrong about your venomous tirades against the medical industry. The biggest proof against your tirades is that if you were right and they found out about you, you wouldn't be alive to keep telling others about it, now would you? Your conspiracy-mongering isn't doing you any favors and neither is your broad brush strokes against evolution and the human race. You're like a fisherman whose never caught any fish in his life and therefore concludes that the ocean doesn't have any fish in it. But take good cheer. You'll be dead soon enough and you'll soon be validated for your actions. At least, that's what you're hoping will happen when you die, right?
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Bill Nye the science guy!!!!
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+Zaki Aminu​ Is that the best retort you've got? Unlike you, I have the decency, discipline, and personal integrity not to actually use the word that you so flippantly post without regard for who it insults or offends, even if it isn't true. And I've watched and researched his career, and his accomplishments are a very valid metric in this context. Otherwise, you'd have no reason to speak about him in the self-serving and masturbatory manner as you are right now. But you're more than welcome to your jealousy-fueled rant against Bill Nye. You also get to look pathetic in the process. :D
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+mikecucuk "Is that the best retort you've got?...." No. But it's sufficient, isn't it? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....Unlike you, I have the decency, discipline, and personal integrity not to actually use the word that you so flippantly post without regard for who it insults or offends, even if it isn't true....." Hahahahahahahahahaha! You spend your life CURSING AND BLASPHEMING and you get your knickers in a twist about how to avoid offending FAGGOTS is a SACRED OBLIGATION? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "....And I've watched and researched his career, and his accomplishments are a very valid metric in this context....." That is YOUR PERSONAL OPINION of Billy Lie - TO WHICH YOU'RE ENTITLED - BUT WHY SHOULD OTHERS SHARE IT? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "...Otherwise, you'd have no reason to speak about him in the self-serving and masturbatory manner as you are right now. But you're more than welcome to your jealousy-fueled rant against Bill Nye. You also get to look pathetic in the process. :D" Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! Well, that should make you happy then, shouldn't it? SO HOW COME YOU'RE NOT? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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he lied, 'no evidence for it' what a lying ass. You see the glee in his face as he lied to us. What a jackass. even looks like a donkey.
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+jamie Allen1977 zeus, ra, odin, thor, jesus all the same stupid fiction.
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+ExtantFrodo2 Yeah, where is zeus' 4000 year old world wide, history changing body of worshippers? LEts see, where are the Universities and hospitals under ra been hiding? You are stupid.
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there are many fors and against evolution and creation. I was speaking to a friend of mine just on this subject. first of all evolution is only just a theory don't be goofed in believing it is fact period. I believe the evolution theory and I am a christian. the bible doesn't rule the theory out ether. the 7 day theory on creation is massively misinterpreted due to quantum mechanics and the fact that at the time of scripture time was very differently interpreted back then. you only have to view the myan calendar to see that. but the thing that goes against evolution is the Entropy law. it says that everything decays over time so in that case how can things evolve if they are designed to die. my answer to this is simple adaptations are handed down to the next generation and over time a change in kind occurs. 
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Haekel’s faked embryonic drawings and the evolved peppered moths of Great Britain are still in school text books today, so much for teaching true facts to kids but we must continue the lies so Drawliest can keep their alter candles burning. The last big evolution fraud was the Archaeoraptor Liaoningensis that was published in National Geographic a few years ago and later had to recant when real scientist looked at the data and found the fraud, Piltdown man II anyone.
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Bill Nye is a liberal Democrat.  So....... Another attack on religion by the left......diversity is great until liberals come across people with ideas outside their utopia.    Evolution is currently just a theory.  A theory with holes that get a pass.......
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+Lee Walter You: Many debate the concept of theory and fact Me: Curiously, you didn't specify many "what". If by "many", you mean "people", I would agree with you (especially because that would include the scientifically illiterate). If by "many" you mean "scientists" then you are either completely wrong, or you have a very loose interpretation of the word "scientist".
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i used to like bill nye. young earth creationism is easy to prove bill
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Are you proving earth is old or the absence of a higher power?
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+TheJamielandon You can not prove anything about things which leave no evidence of their existence. It's sad that people make claims about such things.
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I think it is like the bible says in Romans 1:21 and following. As far as I know, all of Mr. Nye's evidence isn't valid as shown by Answers in Genesis. You are welcome to believe that the universe came from nothing (as Hawking would argue) but I would point out that even our natural laws are something and thus that he is wrong.  The question only shifts to become, "Who created the laws of physics?" I encourage you to not be like the people Fallible Fiend talks about. Research it for yourself, become scientifically literate, contrary to popular belief it doesn't take a PHD to know how the universe began it only takes curiosity and a developed intuition/common sense. The more you know the more you will be able see the problems with arguments for both sides but at least you won't have evolution or creation shoved down your throat through a text book or a church. As for me,I've read/been taught both side and I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.  I've found the truth, but don't take my word for it. I'm encouraging you to find it on your own.
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+Evan Brass You're trying to blend two different topics into one. ExtantFrodo has more than adequately explained the mechanistic phenomenon of variation, and how we know of the contribution to evolutionary change.  It's surely up to you now to read and learn? If you're really interested in the truth, you'll look these things up without prejudice. As to your other, and unrelated topic, you're right in saying we may never DIS-prove the existence of any god, but you're wrong in thinking that we can (or have already) proven the existence of one. On purely logical terms, the idea of the Abrahamic god doesn't add up. . .  Judas - why is he the bad guy? Didn't Jehovah know his contribution to the resurrection story before he involved him in it? I have become fascinated over the past few years by the Pesher scrolls unearthed near the Dead Sea. As an atheist, the most convincing argument (in my own mind) for any truth to the Gospel account, was that somebody had gone to a lot of effort to put it in writing. But why so much contradictory, parable-driven gobbledegook? The pesher reading makes it clear. If we understand that Judea was a land with nothing to offer except mysticism, religion and self-discovery, due to it being a barren and arid land midway between the various kingdoms to the east (Mesopotamia), West (Egypt) and North (Greece/Rome), then we can grasp why it was the center of so many religions and cults. The pesher depends on being 100% predictable - if any reading differs with any other, then it must be considered flawed - but it has not failed yet.  And what does it show? That the early christians were Jews who were driven by the gnosticism of the Greeks - shunning the physical world and only entertaining the spiritual preparation for what they thought (hoped) would be the end times. Against a backdrop of occupation by the Romans, they kept a thorough record of their recruitment of new converts in the known world, the money they brought in, the politics of their religious sect, and ad accounting of the calendar, counting down to the end-of-days. Look it up, see what you think.
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+Evan Brass "How do you know that it is accelerating at the same rate?"    So you want a course in the mathematics of cosmology here? You don't ask for much, do you? "I would like to ask you what story you believe."    Not the gospel accounts. Aside from authenticity issues (which is a heated debate all on it's own), there the inherent lack of plausibility of it all.     First you have Matthew claiming zombies were rising up all over the place. Not only is this not support by ANY source outside Matthew (even the other gospels), but if it is to be taken as fact, then it diminishes the resurrection of jesus to being only one of many at that time. If you don't take it as fact then why accept the claim about Jesus as fact? Then there is the post resurrection discrepancies The Saga of the Empty Tomb Matthew 28: Two Marys meet an angel Mark 16: Mary, Mary & Salome meet a young man Luke "Mary Magdalene, Joanna, & Mary the mother of James & the other women with them" meet 2 men in dazzzling apparel John 20: Mary Magdalene sees an empty tomb & no one else, runs to bring Peter & someone who also see no one & leave Mary who then sees 2 angels & then sees Jesus      4 Gospels & 4 completely different accounts for the most significant event in human history?  I really can't see any Roman soldiers going through all the trouble of putting a guy up on a cross just to let him down the same day. The standard procedure was to leave the body to rot up there as a kind of gruesome billboard not to fuck with Rome. So much so that I find it harder to believe they would undo all that work (supposedly out of respect for the Jewish holidays (like they cared at all)) than to believe anyone rose from the dead. They would sooner have just cut his throat or bashed his head in and tossed him in a ditch. Then there's the account of the following weeks... Luke 24:15 While they were talking and discussing, Jesus Himself approached and began traveling with them. 16 But their eyes were prevented from recognizing Him. hahahaha Mark 16:12 After that, He appeared in a different form to two of them while they were walking along on their way to the country. 13 They went away and reported it to the others, but they did not believe them either. (LOL appeared in a different form. I can't stop laughing.) Matthew 28:16 But the eleven disciples proceeded to Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had designated. 17 When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some were doubtful. (Why were they doubtful? Was this not Jesus whom they had spent the last 3 years? Doesn't it seem more like there was someone claiming the spirit of Jesus had risen up in him, possessed him to talk through him so that he could take the place of and have the attention that Jesus had? Some believed and others didn't.) "The rate of evolution is, however, bound by the rate of mutation"    Fairly large changes in the rate of mutation (either more or less) do not appreciably change the rate of evolution. Of course you can not have zero mutation of have it so high that few of the offspring are even viable, but outside those extremes it doesn't matter a lot. In my genetic algorithms I employ a varying rate of mutation to "bump" the population out of  any local minimum it may have gotten stuck in. This is a very artificial set up. In nature that rate of mutation is more or less constant and due to background radiation, radiation from out there (points to the sky), as well as various chemical and viral mutagens. Each of these are pretty most constant and so the rate of mutation is also. "It would change the beneficiality of mutations but, without a mutagen, you wouldn't have an increased amount of beneficial evolution."   You'll have to reword this for it to not be confusing. Do you have a source where an organism has gained a new tool through mutation? http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5278028/ http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/09/100901-science-animals-evolution-australia-lizard-skink-live-birth-eggs/ Google beneficial mutations and don't click to the creations websites. "The problem arises in the fact that these beneficial mutations must accumulate fast enough that the animals between species die and the fossils don't form"   Why is that "the problem"? Look how many changes between wolves which have changed numerous ways ranging from great danes to toy poodles in just a few thousand years. That's not through genetic engineering but selective breeding of natural random variations. Notice while we are here that wolves do not change into poodles in the wild as the selection pressures are in place for them to be wolves, not poodles. Now ask how many fossils document the change from wolf to poodle? What? No transitional fossils documenting a known change of form? Travesty! It's not the rate of mutation which is the culprit but the frequency of fossilization. "An intelligent designer could do the work of billions of years of evolution in a matter of micro seconds. {granted IF such exists} It would also mean that the animals would follow after their kind instead of performing evolutionary jumps." If you're saying the changes recorded in the fossil record indicate microsecond creation, then you are talking about an extended creation talking billions of years and following the same logical progression outlined by evolution, just using god to explain the PE. I don't much care for "god of the gaps" type arguments as they invariably get shot down. What then of your belief? St. Augustine cautioned against this and (despite my not accepting his premise that god exists) his logic as far as the position of the believer is sound nevertheless. "The Bible clearly tells what is right and wrong" Correction - The Bible clearly CLAIMS TO tell us what is right and wrong. And clearly fails to know what wrong is in many circumstances. Let's look at some of God's morals, as written in the bible: - If you work on a Sabbath, you should be killed [Exodus 31:15] - If your son disobeys you, murder him [Deut 21:18-21] - Sell your daughter into slavery to pay the bills [Exodus 21:7] - If your children curse you, kill them [Lev. 20:9] - Women are subservient, they must remain silent [1 Tim 2:11-12] - Slaves must perform any act you wish [Titus 2:9] If you agree these are wrong then you are more moral than god.    God commands his followers not to kill, & then in the same book commands they go & slaughter an entire city, including all the children.     If you say killing is wrong & then command killing you are immoral. Being immoral is setting up a moral code & then violating it.     If not believing in magical sky daddies is immoral then what is moral?     It is unethical & immoral to create sentient beings to use as mindless servants. Rebellion in such cases is mandatory     Is murder wrong because your god says so, or did your god say so because it's wrong? In other words, in the absence of a commandment not to, would you be going around murdering people?     Think carefully before you answer, since you will either be admitting that you're a latent serial killer, or else that god is irrelevant to the morality-discovering process.
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I think in 50 years or so the government will make it so you cant believe in a God no matter what your religion. Only because it limits the your knowledge about the universe. You can say plants need sun or you could say God keeps them alive, if people cant advance technologacly in the future we will probably all be dead.
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teaching children that life is meaningless is inappropriate. Moron. You get a bunch of dead people.
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+jamie Allen1977 "Just a few words from you and my asshole curled up inside my five year old ass" I guess you feel like you're five years old when confronted by intellectual giants. That's okay, we won't tell anyone.
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+ExtantFrodo2 Haha, I consider myself a mental midget but I still look a long way down upon this "five year old ass", careful not to step on him mate. 
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Leonard Nimoy's death is a timely reminder to all that every man's date with his Maker draweth nigh. Weaselly varlets like Blick Boy and Co. can stick their fingers in their ears and say 'La La La' all they want but their craven conduct is not going to rescue them from the ineluctable reality of perdition.
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+Zaki Aminu yes you are a boring retard with the IQ of a sea sponge
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"Here's a little-known, scary stat: More than half of middle class kids who start college fail to earn a bachelor's degree within six to eight years. The low graduation rate has big implications for young adults' ability to remain in the middle class, or to rise a few rungs above their parents on the economic ladder. A college degree, once a ticket to the middle class, is now a must-have to maintain that status." http://money.cnn.com/2015/03/25/news/economy/middle-class-kids-college/ "Why these kids aren't graduating with bachelor's degrees isn't really known." [Let's see. 650% rise in autism in 29 years. STD's steady rise causing fetal mutations destroying mental abilities.   40% of high school seniors cannot read nor write well enough to enter any low academic standard city college. 33% of children in school are being diagnosed with mental problems and being given drugs. When I was in school a person who could not focus on anything was called "retarded".   A person who was lazy was called a "derelict". Why are those such difficult words for parents to accept? Answer: emotionalism is not reality. ]  "A lot of attention and effort is focused on getting lower-income children into and through college. But few researchers study the path of students from middle class families. "It's startling. We get people to college, but they don't finish," said Sandy Baum, a research professor at the George Washington University. "The middle class gets lost in the shuffle." [ People are rapidly becoming retarded. Fortunately, God has an answer for this problem. ]
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+Gary Bell Once you get past religion and just look at the evidence it is clear what the Bible is talking about. For me it was the testable science found in the Bible was what led me to believe it was composed with knowledge that was literally impossible for them to know at that time.  Considering that the Jews were the chosen people to bring the genetic of the Messiah. It basically meant a very difficult life.  They lived according to history 430 years as slaves of Egyptians.  If I was God and wanted to clean up the weaklings I would put them in the same situation to destroy all weakness from the tribe. Then they had to endure 40 years of "clean up" living in a "wilderness" that was so small they could have reached the final destination in a week. Today the genetics of the Jews is clear in teh fact that no other group has more Nobel Prizes for science than any other "people".  It is because after the Messiah was born and they kept denying Him the still kept with the rules of health.  Einstein was from them.  The Story Starts with Adam who defied Gods rules for life.  And so mutation and death was given to us.  Since then we are now nearly extinct. 
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"It is clear what the Bible is talking about" Would that be the case in Numbers 25-31? when God got pissed off at the Midianites, commanded all the baby boys to be slaughtered along with men and women but 32,000 virgins girls were spared and God's levy of them was 32.That's the stuff; it's talking about a degraded God's need for sex slaves! Surely you have a reasonable explanation for why those baby boys required slaughter and why the Lord needed 32 virgins. Speaking of Nobel prize winners, can you name one who denies Darwinian evolution? Also, why punish Adam when all he did was to make an uninformed choice? Adam knew not of death, so God's warning was pointless and false, since God said Adam would die on the day he ate of the forbidden fruit. Sure, follow the bible and your life will be an immoral chaos like yours.
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OK I'm sorry I got a little to happy about wining the argument but I don't see you as totally unintelligent just unable to meet my challenge you just that science treats some of us the same way!!! Einstein couldn't prove red shift but knew it was true and in time it was proven some things we are arguing about are the same way you don't need to see it to know its true
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+UnexplainedReality1 '.2sec of attention deficit disorder' I actually do have ADHD.
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UnexplainedcontentionsLose! Do you ramble on much? Here is a tip. Pick a point you wish to convey. Introduce it, provide supporting information, and reach a conclusion. When you get to high school, sign up for some English composition/grammar/punctuation remedial classes. Then, if you pass, consider taking more! Become eloquent. Become concise. Become convincing!
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There is only ME PUSHING THE ORIGIN QUESTION UP A LEVEL INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY SOLVING IT (I.E. GOD). IT'S ALL MY FEEBLE MIND IS CAPABLE OF POSTULATING! ARBITRARY CONDITIONS are, naturally, A PRODUCT OF MY THEISTIC ARROGANCE; whereas OBJECTIVE CONDITIONS are, naturally, SOMETHING I CHOOSE TO AVOID!
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+Zaki Aminu "NOT YET, YOU'RE NOT! But it won't be long before that happens, WILL IT, FEB? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!" "I DON'T NEED TO CLAIM ANY VICTORIES AT ALL! I PREFER TO WAIT FOR THE ENEMY TO OFFER THEIR SURRENDER! THAT IS THE ONLY WAY ONE CAN BE CERTAIN THAT THEY HAVE BEEN CRUSHED, isn't it? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!" Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Well, then YOU'RE going to be waiting for the REST OF YOUR LIFE, and even THEN it won't happen! MEANWHILE, YOU CAN JUST FEED OFF YOUR ARROGANCE AND SENSE OF FOOLISH DETERMINATION! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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+Zaki Aminu "Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Well, then YOU'RE going to be waiting for the REST OF YOUR LIFE, and even THEN it won't happen! MEANWHILE, YOU CAN JUST FEED OFF YOUR ARROGANCE AND SENSE OF FOOLISH DETERMINATION! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!" Nah! I'VE ALREADY TAKEN MANY SURRENDERS! I'm just MOPPING UP a few pockets of resistance now! It's just you DIEHARD ATHEISTIC FAGGOTS left for ME to DEAL WITH! Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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AT THE END OF THE DAY, SOMETHING CAN NEVER COME OUT OF NOTHINGNESS - SO ATHEISM IS DOOMED! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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Before we go any further with this, can you give me an idea of how long you want to keep up this round of contradiction? Also, nah. Entertaining. ;)
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