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This court looks so slow , even today the WTF are one of the slowest hardcourts of the tour , i don't know why people keep refering to it as fast ..
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You LITERALLY have to laugh at the fools who even attempt to argue weak era. lol
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Why don't the courts have doubles lines? Is this tournament only specific to singles back then? 
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wow!! this video was so enlightening! rodge has improved sooo much since 2002. in this, he always has probs putting away shots on the backhand, and often on his forehand. plus his returns were pretty lame, often chipped. not to mention the choking. and also maybe the competition just wasn't as stiff back then.
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What's wrong with that?? Borg and connors was baseliners as well but they were aggressive like agassi. Hewiitt on the other hand is a counter puncher, therefore this indicated the grass is super slow already
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I love love love these single's court lines. You can really see how accurate they are because with double's lines, it gives the illusion that there is more space then there actually is for them to hit into
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FEDERER'S topspin backhand sux in the video....improved much more now
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you said goodnight, so why are you still talking crap?
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I would find playing on a court with no tramlines so disconcerting. Although it may seem fairly innocuous to professionals, considering they never even practice on courts like that it is impressive they maintain such a high level...
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Its gone up a fair bit considering the unregulated situation of tennis equipment. Then there is the slowing down of the courts. Bottom line: more pressure on players body. When is the last time someone won a GS in their 30s?
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YEs but hewitt was a counterpuncher and he still won wimbledon in 2002
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Such a great match this 2002 Tennis Masters Cup Semi-final was as Hewitt and Federer played really well the rally where Federer hit a cross court forehand and Hewitt replied accordingly with a forehand winner down the line on the run out the tramlines and where Federer hit another cross-court forehand which took Hewitt totally out of court but Hewitt almost made it anyway were excellent examples of that lol
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Federer was berger but the score was inverse
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and Nadal & Hewitt would have never won Wimby - simple as ;)
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Well done my friend ... these guys that started to watch tennis in the last 2 years, really need some advices!!!
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weird not having the double alley
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Fast is a relative term. It was "faster" than it is now. They've slowed it down gradually from 2002-2004 by changing the type of grass they use. Now it's 100% rye grass which plays the slowest. Slow surfaces don't help Hewitt. Nalbandian yes, because he's a claycourt player, but Hewitt has always preferred a fast surface. That's why he was always more successful at the fast US Open than at the slow Australian Open. Neither player was a natural serve and volleyer so that comment was pointless.
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funny how losers say 'goodnight' or 'conversation over' and think just cause they say it, it's over. grow up. no doubt, nadal and djokovic achieved a lot more than hewitt did in his career. try keep the debate civilised. but i guess it's over now cause you said goodnight.
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No dude old age forced him to quit. Besides hes the oldest player to win the US Open at 31 so dont talk about him not being able to upgrade
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Yes, and that's all I'm saying. But it's not slow, just slower. The skid effect is still there even though it's been nullified and the ball reaches the opponents slower. But slow courts are like Roland Garros, Monte Carlo, Miami.... The heavier balls also make it slower. At RG2011 they used faster balls than they did at Wimbledon.
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Yeah your right, even though this format makes the most sense. There is even less to be confused by!
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Hewitt could have been competitive against Federer. But shortly after becoming number one he decided to play like a .... (insert something politically incorrect here).
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@MaratSafinVideos, his serve was AWOL for almost all of 2011, what?! Are you insane? Fed won 89% of his service games during 2011, good for 2nd on the tour, trailing only John Isner with 90%. He was also 2nd on the entire tour in winning % on his 1st serve and tied for 1st with Rafa on his 2nd serve. What exactly did you base that statement on? The hard data doesn't support it.
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if the courts stayed fast, Roger would have over 20 slams.
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I don't know why, but this seems way more entertaining than today's tennis.
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Federer's competition from 2002-2006 was very, very good. Hewitt, Roddick, Agassi, Safin, Nalbandian, and Davydenko all in the primes of their careers gave Fed very tough matches and he really earned those wins against those guys. The only reason people say Federer's prime was in a weak era is because they don't understand or don't want to admit how truly amazing Federer was then.
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then sucks for Hewitt that he won his Wimbledon in 2002
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2005 Hewitt had passed his prime, courts are already slower.
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Agree, Hewitt is extremely underrated. He gave Safin all he could handle in the 2005 AO, and Safin took peak Federer out in 5 sets the previous match. If winning a set off a guy as hot as Safin was that tournament, and making him work extremely hard for the victory isn't good evidence, then I dont know what is.
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You think I'm a "Fedtard?" It's been proven that the courts were quicker in 2003 than they were in 2008.
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i remember watching a davis cup match back in 00 or 01, a young federer was playing hewitt. fed was practically doing the same thing as he is doing nowadays, but he was framing every so often, and serve and volleyed a lot more. i remember thinking to myself - boy, this guy needs to work on his game... he sure showed me.
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@MaratSafinVideos, of course you won't be reading any of my "garbage", I've yet to produce any; I didn't base my analysis solely on service GAMES, but points, 1st and 2nd serve winning % as compared with the rest of the tour. So you're saying that somehow Fed's gaudy statistics during his service games have nothing to do with his serve? How can you divorce his service game results from the quality of his actual serve? Your analysis is unscientific, observational, subjective tripe, do better.
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hewit one before roger to start of with, and Nadal can win any court, any time.
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Actually your attempt of provoking is retarded , like i said you dont have anything to back up your claims, you are just talking shit now. Btw i'm not here to win arguments with random youtubers i was stating something very obvious ,if you have anything to prove me wrong i would like to see it othewise shut up .
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you are so off, Hewitt was a tremendous player in his prime, he had a great record vs Safin, Agassi, Sampras (Sampras still somewhat in his prime struggled big time against 18-year old Hewitt) and at the end of 2003 was 7-2 against Federer, Hewitt has also beaten Nadal a few times despite being past his prime, give the guy some credit
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@MaratSafinVideos, a "catastrophe", that's a really harsh adjective to describe a serve as lethal as Fed's. Sure, his overall, all-court game helps him hold serve but to say that his 2011 serve was a shadow of what is was in previous seasons is something you've yet to substantiate with any hard evidence but if you can, please do.
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hewitt was far from his early 2000 ish form, wimbleton grass was as slow as fuck after 2001
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Who, the one who have interest in the game before results. Today results counts but nobody has an interest about the way. Productivity and numbers count and almost everybody is like a robot. If you look the games Federer is already better than Hewitt but he has a lack a physic. You just have to take a look at his footwork. To achieve what he is now he had to work on his legs.Also hewitt played one of his best tennis ever, nothing compare to his loss to nadal.
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I was comparing the grass from the 90s. Yes it was slow compared to the 90s. Hewitt does prefer fast surfaces however he doesn't want the surface too fast because after all he is a counterpuncher, so thus the courts in 2002 suit his game style. Now the grass is too slow for hewitt and since hewitt doesn't really have amazing grounstrokes, it's a lot harder for him to hit winners.
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Hewitt did a great job of saving those set points when he was serving at 4-5 in the first.
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@MaratSafinVideos, hyperbolic, inane, unsubstantiated drivel.... of course Fed's game has diminished slightly since the days of his utter, magisterial dominance but you keep wanting to press this absurd point that the wheels have fallen off his serve when despite an entire arsenal of shots that are post-prime, Fed's results on serve are more than holding sway. Somehow you've managed to divorce Fed's ability to hold serve more prolifically than anyone (save for Isner) from his serve, wow.
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Wimbledon got slower after 2002. Basically, the year Hewitt won was the last year it played "fast" and even then it wasn't as fast as it was in the 90's. Today, it's basically like a completely different surface, and that's the main reason players like Nadal and Djokovic have been able to win there and why serve and volley players have struggled there.
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@jtatsiue You're asking if I am insane when you're the one basing his actual serve on % of service points won? Haven't you considered that those numbers are still high due to his overall standard of play during those service games? Anyone who has watched tennis for more than one year knows that Federer's serve last year was a catastrophe compared to previous years. LOL at using that stat to analyse actual service.
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''Hewitt took a set off prime Djokovic earlier this year'' That doesnt mean shit. In 2004, a young nadal beat a prime federer in straight sets on a HC, does dat mean when nadal is at his prime he will destroyed federer consistently?? Plzz dont make that stupid comment
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Yes, slower than the 90s. They changed the type of grass used to 100% perennial rye, and this change enabled the groundsmen to keep the ground drier and firmer, resulting in a higher bounce and slower courts.
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And if 2001 was the beginning of the slow grass, then explain Federer/Sampras, Federer/Henman, and Ivanisevic/Rafter, which were all solely serve and volley matches.
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If the grass courts were "slow" in 2002, it's only in comparison to what they were like in the 90s, and in that case, yes, they were slower, but not "slow." But if grass was so slow, using 2003 as an example, how could a serve and volleyer like Philippousis have made the final, beating one of the best baseliners ever in Agassi along the way? And how did Tim Henman beat the finalist from the year before, Nalbandian, a known baseliner? You see where I'm going with this?
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hewitt's coach...jason stoltenberg???
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This definitely also applies for many strong players in the early century. Roddick, Hewitt, Safin, and even players like Ferrero and Baghadatis would have seen more open titles...well possibly. It's all speculation of course, cause if courts stayed faster I'm still not sure if Federer would have had more challenge.
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@365to173repubsPWNED Federer used to serve and volley on any court, regularly, and you're calling him more aggressive now, floating topspin mid court backhands when his slice is more effective? Federer didn't have the confidence and most importantly of all, the aura, in 2002, but he was quite obviously a massive prospect and his forehand was devastating. Coupled with the poorer movement, his forehand and backhand have been going downhill for years. 2004-2007 was prime.
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He and Courior absolutely deserve respect. They were both great players, tho Jim more so than Hewitt. But they were both fortunate in their timing I think. Courior ushered in the big hitters when serve/volley was still prevalent, but was ultimately overtaken at his own game. Hewitt was a care taker #1 between the Samprass/Agassi era and the Fed/Nadal one, but caretaker or not he was still the #1 player for about 2 years. More than most can claim!
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No it was 2001, 2002 was not a ''fast grass''. In the final between hewitt and nalbandian, McEnroe have already said the courts have slowed down dramatically where it helps both hewitt and nalbandian to reach the final. If you watch the 2002 final, there's barely any serve and volley and that's factual
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Hewitt was still good in 2005. Made it to the AUS Final, Wimbledon SF and USO SF. He was still ranked amongst the top guys. After that though, he went south, mostly due to injuries.
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Who can imagine a Federer then became the GOAT today? Life is amazing.
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No such thing as a weak tennis era. I hate when people blame a player for their success on a weak tennis era. For example, Agassi was at his prime from 1999-2003, precisely the years Hewitt was at the top of the game. So it's not like Hewitt did not have good competition. Also Safin was playing his best those years. And Safin took Sampras to a beating. Also Safin was the only player that could go head to head with Federer (proof AO 2005). So stop saying there is a weak tennis era!!!!
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Which is why every tennis analyst out there said Roger dominated the sport at a time where the depth and challenge had never been greater...
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There's no denying that Fed's serve has been the one constant over the years, the stats back that up. Everything else has dropped just a tiny bit with age as we all knew it would, but the serve is as good, if not better than it ever was.
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well hewitt won wimbledon in 2002 when federer was young. the courts were still fast then. hewitt won wimbledon fair and square.
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You're comment is correct, but every Federer match I see on Youtube has comments that say any opponent of Federer sucks, which is untrue. So I think one ignorant troll on Federer can be put up with.
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The fact is wimbledon was slow since 2001 whether you want to admit it or not
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Dude, people you're arguing against don't understand tennis. Just cause Hewitt had no big weapons other than his brain and court coverage, people think he was only at No.1 because of a bad era. Hewitt was no.1 for 65 consecutive weeks, hardly a crappy player. You'll never win an argument against dumb arses, you and I both know how good Hewitt was.
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@365to173repubsPWNED Well we'll have to disagree, I think you're completely wrong, having watched him throughout the years. It's clear to see that every part of his game has declined barring the drop shot. His serve went AWOL for almost all of 2011. We can sort of agree on the serve improving. It did improve 2004 and beyond I believe and probably better than ever 2006/2007 and possibly the slice serve to deuce even later but only because he was made to rely on it more.
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Even in 2001 when he beat Pete at Wimbledon. No average player, even on a good day, will be Pete at Wimbledon.
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I miss those courts without lines for doubles
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Federer was more explosive. Hewitt was more consistent.
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did you record this with a cucumber?
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So?? Then how come in 2002, hewitt won wim.....Henman even said that from wimbledon 2001, it was ''the green clay''
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I like it how Federer chokes with double faults like average player vs the world number 1.
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ヒューイットかっこよすぎw
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If the grass was super slow, how did Henman beat Nalbandian in 2003? And Borg and Connors may have been baseliners of their era but both came to net way more than the players of today.
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dude from 2002-2005, the grass was not fast, in 2001 wimbledon was given the nickname the ''green clay'' and the match between hewitt and nalbandian in 2002 final was a baseline -fest
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Courts were faster back then as well. A young Hewitt with no injuries and the fast courts of those days might see Hewitt have the upper hand against Nadal and Djokovic.
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Are you kidding me? Just look at how Federer toyed with Hewitt after he became Federer. Federer can't toy with Djokovic as he did with Hewitt. Djokovic hit harder groundstrokes than Hewitt, and that is a fact. He has a better serve and guess what, he moves better too. And no, I can't be biased. After all, I am a Fed fan. But the truth is that Djokovic would eat Hewitt alive.
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Which is why the Federer/Philippousis final in 2003 was basically dominated by serve and volley.
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I don't buy that the courts were "slow" from 2001-2003 though ... not like they are now anyways. I think the conditions play a big factor - like in 09 the ball was really skidding and it helped the players like Haas who made the semis, and Roddick of course who beat Murray and actually hung with Federer from the baseline..
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@MaratSafinVideos, how about the 25 aces he hit against Lopez on a clay court in a best of 3 set match? Not bad for someone who's serve really tops 125 MPH. Fed's serve has always been about hitting the corners and keeping the ball away from his opponents' hitting zones along with having a nearly unreadable serve, same toss, same preparation no matter where it's going. You're saying those characteristics were decidedly absent in 2011? You've yet to clearly identify your point.
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Hewitt bothered Federer when he was the top player and Federer was still finding his game. After Federer became Federer, I believe the record is 16-1. Not even close my friend. And I agree with XX, taking a set from Novak means nothing. Novak is a version of Hewitt, just better at all parts of the game. Better serve, better groundstrokes, faster than Hewitt. Covers the net way better. Name one aspect of the game Hewitt does better. None. And no, I'm not a Novak fan. I just say it like it is.
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The bullshit about courts being slower is just some pathetic excuse to justify people's loses ."not in his prime" Hewit made it to the final in the Aussie 2005 , he was playing fantastic ,Nadal was 18 and he still managed to give him a five set match . You dont have anything to back up your claim ,Both Djokovic and Nadal own Hewit in achievements and in H2H ...Good night
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When I watch this it makes me realise that Federer's competition wasn't bad at all. Hewitt looks so solid and consistent here. Federer's 2002 level isn't very far from his level in 2012 if you ask me.
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Djokovic has beaten Hewitt 3 times on grass so your argument is stupid
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Prime hewitt would beat nole's ass anytime anywhere :)
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They chose not to come to net, just like Agassi remained a baseliner in the 90s and had great success even with the faster courts.
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im 14 and those 2 players inspired me to start tennis about 10 years ago. Its good to see them still playing :)
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Sampras was forced out of prime when people can return serve. If not his type of game can play until 35 onwards. Failure to sucessfully upgrade to other aspects to games forced him to quit.
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@365to173repubsPWNED He didn't hit it like a 'bitch' back then, it was as big as ever during this point. His forehand has gone wayward since 2008, spraying errors everywhere.
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