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Fast and Furious

by AmericanFutureFund • 708,858 views

Tell Obama: we deserve answers and accountability.

randy spate Shared on Google+ · 1 year ago
never forget .. Brian Terry's family sure won't ... wake up MERIKA
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Only in America can a car thief become speaker of the house.
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I'm ignorant because I don't believe in wild conspiracies? That makes sense. There are no conspiracies. Get over it. Obama doesn't want my guns or your guns. The ATF ran a bad program, and it lead to an Americans death. It happened under Obama's watch, so if you want to hold him responsible, fine. But you guys need to stop with the, "he wants to get rid of the 2nd amendment" ridiculousness.
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It's always someone else's fault with this administration. FAIL
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Fast and Furious has been debunked to death in Fortune magazine. ATF never had anything to do with walking guns, except trying to PREVENT IT. By ATF was stopped from preventing gun walking by weak gun laws enacted by.... saying it with me... conservatives! It's all over for the ridiculous Fast and Furious conspiracy.
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So executive privilege is evidence of guilt now? I'm just asking, because Bush did it six times. By your own logic, Bush is an accomplice in the death of Pat Tillman. Is that really a can of worms that conservatives want to open?
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You don't subscribe to the same obama. there is the real obama and the obama that exists as a spooky ghost on conservative news sites. If you go look on breitbart, you could almost see him as a sharp vampire character. he has fangs that he sucks the will to live out of the middle class with. But the real Obama is flawed in ways democrats actually understand. As do non crazy conservatives. Anyhow, i am a democrat who likes guns.
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you need to begin to come to grips with the fact Obama will be our prez for about 4 1/2 more years.....and you should stop blaming Obama and Eric Holder for your lifetime of failures bc you would still be a f*cking loser if john mccain had been our prez these past 41 months
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hope the person who made this channel would die
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"WASHINGTON - New documents obtained by CBS News show Attorney General Eric Holder was sent briefings on the controversial Fast and Furious operation as far back as July 2010. That directly contradicts his statement to Congress."
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Please present the evidence you have that Obama wants to take my guns away. Get a clue. Don't you think if such evidence existed Faux News would broadcast it all day everyday?
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if you can't tie it to the white house there is no way Obama could use Executive Privilege. So who's the idiot, idiot
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You are correct in that Fast and Furious was not entirely about the 2A. It was about business as usual. Our government has trafficked guns and dope for decades. It's about all the black ops money, the thing about black ops money is that it cannot be traced. They learned from Iran Contra, this time they kept their own hands off the guns and coke, they just trafficked the money. They sat back and watched in safety, ready to throw the ongoing investigation dodge if caught.
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You know this how? Have you seen the documents?
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You obviously watch way too much MSNBC, the cheerleaders of the Obama administration. Stop with the Bush Bashing. There are huge differences between the 2 programs. Neither program should have been allowed to happen but at least there was some benefit to the Bush program. The Obama program didn't serve any useful purpose. What is so hard for you to understand here. The federal government armed murderous criminals who killed civilians using the same guns that obama wants to see banned in the U.S
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Good night! Anyone but obama 2012!
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Man you people crack me up. Everything is a conspiracy with you. Obama has never once put forth any legislation forward regarding gun control. In fact he has never even mentioned it. Yet all I hear is he has this master plan to take away our guns. Get a life and get a clue.
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The Mexican gun program was initiated by George W. Bush in 2006 and was terminated by Eric Holder and President Obama in 2011. Eric Holder & Obama are well within their rights to not disclose confidential information that would undermine our Homeland Security procedures and that would jeopardize the names of our undercover CIA Agents. DoJ documents are not subject to Congressional subpoena if releasing the documents jeopardizes our national security.
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I didn't say we deserved it. I didn't say their logic was correct, neither did Ron Paul. But to believe they hate us for our freedoms is absolutely ridiculous.
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Just a little punctuation would have been nice haha
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No question about the support of racists for the Republicans, and that's one reason this election will not be any kind of landslide. 45% of the country will vote for any Republican, and 45% will vote for Obama. If the Reps succeed in limiting the franchise, they will win. If everybody votes, Mitt is dead. BTW, check out this piece from a wise-beyond-his-years Gil Scott-Heron. Just search on "the revolution will not be televised."
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Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor, two new supreme court justices who are anti-gun? Sotomayor joined Brewer in the latest Mcdonald vs. Chicago case. I would be remarkably surprised if Kagan isn't in lockstep with Sotomayor and Brewer on 2nd Amendment cases. Not sure there is a 'conspiracy' behind fast and furious, but why should democrats fight the battle when there is a clear path to win the war with Ginsburgs' retirement coming up likely next term?
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Because in my personal experience, I have been referred to as a "racist" because I do not agree with this president. I am sick of the special treatment given this man by the media and it in indeed "obvious" that Obama and Holder have been playing the race card like a couple drunken poker players.
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Since the IG found no wrong doing or knowledge on Obama or Holders part, your comment reeks of nothing short of jumping to conclusions.
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Obama is hideing the documents cause he and bush were both involve with it. Fuck Obama and his healthcare!!! Send that piece of shit Eric holder to the box. Lollll.
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You'd better keep checking a little deeper because there is a great difference between "wide receiver" and "fast and furious". If you study the two enough you will see the vast difference.
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This whole thing started under wide receiver. Who was that under again?
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Romney must use THIS as an attack ad!
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Why are you directing this back at me, calling me the loser? They are the ones to blame! You know nothing about me, and your language is despicable. Troll much!
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"In a second major retraction over its version of the the Justice Department's gun-walking scandal, the department has retracted Attorney General Eric Holder's charge in a hearing last week that his Bush administration predecessor had been briefed on the affair." ,Washington Post
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And because u say u are a republican does not mean u are a christian. U may say u are not for abortion or gay marriage but on the other hand u may be very prejudice against black people or hispanics or other people whos skin color is dark. The system has worked so long for the whiteman Its a Fact the majority of whitemen help other whitemen in obtaining employment. Better jobs,etc. Yes discrimination and intolernce of other people still exist. Most of your employers are whitemen, its a Fact
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You Obamatards will believe anything you are spoon fed. The guns walking Into Mexico started with Holder. The previous program was not the same and halted. If any of the documents could show It started under Bush, Barry would never have used executive privilege. It's laughable what BO will do or say to avoid blame. And likewise what lengths his sycophants will go to avoid the obvious.
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I need to come to grips? My life is not a failure and I don't need this "president" to feel good about myself. I repeat - ha ha ha Why don't you go and occupy something
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F&F was a pretext to bring gun sellers under stricter control by Obama admin. but was foiled by a whistleblower and resulted in the death of our border agent not to mention the many Mexicans!
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If that day ever came, it would take a better man than you. I'm not the one wanting conflict, you are. You're the one with clouded judgment. I would process you like any other threat, cold and precise. I don't give a shit about Barrack, George Bush, Bill Clinton, Reagan, or any of them. I don't give a shit if they're white, black, green, or blue. They're all fucking traitors.
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I guess the debate will have to end, because you refuse to read what I write and simply go with what you believe that I think. I never expressed sympathy, neither did Ron Paul. I merely stated that the reason our government gave for the attacks was ridiculous, and stated the actually reason they attacked us. I even stated on multiple occasions, that I didn't not agree with their reasoning. You won't read that though, you are trapped in your bubble I guess. Good day.
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there was zero effort to track the guns, they did not notify or work with the Mexican government, the sole purpose was to flood Mexico with illegal guns from the US so they could enact more gun regulations on already law abiding citizens
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Obama hates hispanics as he trafficked guns killing hispanics via fast and furious. Impeach Holder. Replace Obama. Romney 2012!
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I think the majority of Republicans are racist. The majority are white men mainly from the south. The south breeds narrow minded backwards people who are so blinded by their own ignorance and racist upbringing many are in such denial that they are racist, Remember even in the days of segregation and jim crow whitemen then even denied beiing racist even though they were for segraegation and seperate facilities. So how can a racist change if they deny theyre racist?
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The reason obama is hideing the f&f documents is because him and bush were both apart if this busted operation
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What is that supposed to mean? He had a decent reply to you and said that you are young and inexperienced. You come back with four years old... It really shows how smart you are.
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Perhaps "Fast and Furious" was successful; by arming these drug dealers the USA destabilized the Mexican Government, out of desperation the Mexican people JUST voted out the Democratic “PRA Party” and installed the corrupt Socialist “PRI party”, I suspect it was the original objective. Had they not been caught, they might have also used the "gun walking" as a reason to tighten American gun laws even farther, a secondary objective?
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As long as you are not supporting obama then I am a happy happy girl!
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So you think the way to not be thought of as racist is to use the term 'black thug' when describing the president? Sorry my friend, your choice of words is what paints you as a racist, not your disagreement with Obama.
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QQ, our country has done things in secret since the start, soldiers and officers know what they sign up for. its civilians (90% republicans are uneducated) who use their scarifies for politics. As for "high treason" the administration should look into all the inbred rednecks who are scared a black man will do for this country what 43 honkies couldn't, and throw anyone who lacks facts to the garbage they spew into jail.
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Thats because one president makes agreement and 4 years later another one comes in and breaks them all. No consistency, too much partisan garbage. Diplomacy with US must be like talking to schizophrenic who reinvents his entire outlook every election cycle or two.
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I've heard the story about Issa's past in I believe 1982, but what does that have to do with his investigation of the issues of Fast and Furious and the document leaks? And John Boehner is speaker of the house.
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Yes there IS evidence. I could say you are naive.
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"In a memo just released by Sen. Chuck Grassley, he reveals that Holder also didn't apologize to former Attorney General Michael Mukasey for dragging him into the Fast & Furious scandal that is headed for a major legal clash and likely contempt of Congress charge against Holder. " ,Washington Post
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Sorry, lack of sleep leads to mistakes. "Only in America can a car thief become Chairman of the house oversight committee."
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Holder is trouble cause a Officer Terry was killed. Then Holder tells Congress he has no idea about F & F. Oops
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Wow, now your trying to paint me as a defender of islam. Your argument is sad and ridiculous. "They hate us for our freedoms," is one of the most idiotic statements a politician has ever stated. SMH. I give up trying to enlighten you. Good day.
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then why did they put thousands of guns into mexican drug cartels without any effort to track them? why did pols still try to push gun regulation even after the scandal was coming out?!
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the GOP are nothing more that LIARS....VETERANS HATE THE GOP
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Under Bush it was titled Wide Receiver. People were arrested, and they shut the operation down. No Americans were killed.
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Exactly! Why does a fascist government want to take arms away from its people???
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Why is Holder holding back info?
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I am so fucking sick of Liberals blaming everything Obama does wrong on Bush. Sure he was awful but he didn't make the country fucking un-governable. And even if he did, Obama ran for president fully aware of what he was getting into. ffs.
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I know everything about you: you are an evangelic creationist that thinks planet earth is just 6,000 years old, you are a NASCAR fan & an NRA member, you endorse torture and voter ID laws... you oppose gay marriage, Obamacare, the DREAM Act and the GM bailout....you think Obama is a Muslim and a communist.......and you think global warming is a hoax..... did I get 12 out of 13 correct?
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Wanna hear a cool story? Google, House of Death. Look for the article by the Dallas Observer.
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Surely when you wish to kill someone it doesn't matter where you purchased a gun. You're going to buy one either way.
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I never claimed they were the same, only that both were so called 'gun walking' programs. Giving weapons to bad people, is giving weapons to bad people. I don't care about the details. The point was simply that the programs existed under both presidents, and lets be honest, in all reality, neither probably knew of their existence.
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I love how Libs justify a wrong without accepting responsibility
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YOU do not have your facts straight. Research before you embarrass yourself. F&F was NOT started under Pres. Bush, even Holder admitted that under oath. Wide Receiver was started under Pres Bush and was a completely different program with completely different tactics. One of which it was done with the full knowledge and cooperation with the Mexican Gov't! Also, it was only 250 guns (vs 2500) and tracking devices were installed in the guns. Obama wanted to use F&F to enact more gun laws in U.S.
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Maybe all the proof you need is in thousands of pages Holder won't release to Congress. Anyway I don't think he wants to take our guns, but he can ban AR's like Clinton did.
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Darrell Issa's pathetic accusations are baseless and without merit.
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Pure speculation. You have no evidence of this at all. This is simply paranoia.
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Liar? You're a fool. There has been NO link to his death by a gun walked by Fast & Furious. There were 2 guns found at the scene, but neither of them was the weapon used in his death. Stop with your phoney indignance. Where was your indignance when Bush admin ran a similar program? According to Mexican authorities, people were murdered under that program. But you get all riled over a border patrol agent? Where's YOUR fucking humanity? LOL What makes you sick is your stupidity.
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Liberals will be drug to the gulag before they wake up. They have no God. Mother Earth and Obama are their God They believe their lies. Lies and blame. Wake up liberals. You are being complicit in destroying this country. More than your pride or your "guy" is at stake here. Obama hates America and is doing all he can to destroy it while you sit there and cheer him on. I have never felt so hated and held in such disdain by our government. This is evil and shameful. Stop your delusions! Wake up!
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Accountability? There is no accountability for Obama, its Bush's fault remember?
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Saying fast and furious is an Obama invention to enact gun laws is like saying Obama started the Iraq war. Fast and Furious was started in 2006. When did Obama take office? 2009.
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Just because a certain Senior Bush Administrator was not briefed does not negate the fact that it was still started under the Bush Administration. You are either will informed about the original of fast and furious and have intentionally ignore this fact or you are misinformed as to when this operation started. Please check you facts before you speak again on this subject matter. Fast and Furious started in 2006 and Obama took office on Jan. 20the, 2009. These are facts, not opinions.
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obama is a coomunist. obama is dispicable! ALIPAC is a great group of americans.
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Seems silly to add something real to this blather, but WTF. This effort was funded by Congress under the name "Project Gunrunner", most recently in 2008. One of those supporting it was Darrell Issa, Chair of the Oversight Committee. He is fulfilling his promise to "get something" on Obama, and lied about not knowing anything about Gunrunner--all a witch hunt to distract stupid Americans. Holder has admitted that the effort was a debacle and ended it. The Mexican Government doesn't care.
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yep....you warned me....here comes the hate
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No, we have a base in Saudi Arabia. We supply Israel. We've been enforcing the no-fly zone in Iraq. I could go on forever about our involvement in that region, going all the way back to other throwing the Iranian government in 1953. The "They hate us for our freedoms" argument that Bush put forward is insulting to my intelligence.
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I do believe this was some type of crap that would comeback and Obama would try to sell it as Guns are crossing the border, people being killed, need to ban AR style rifles. He doesn't like guns, but he's glad people who are protecting have them. Kind of hypocritical don't ya think.
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I makes no difference where you are from! Americans want Holder and the others involved brought to justice! Get it?
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bullshit --- bullshit this is a reich wing political deal. The FBI report and other resources say agent Terry wasn't killed by a FF gun. Darrell Issa who leads this witch hunt was arrested in California for insurance fraud for supposedly reporting his own Mercedes stolen and later trying to sell it after the insurance money was collected He was also arrested on weapons charges from what I've heard too. Kind of hypocritical don't you think?
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What benefit was there to the Bush program? There wasn't one prosecution under that program, but many from the Obama admin. I'll bash Bush every day till I die,he's one arrogant, ignorant fuck. I don't gather my information from MSNBC. I use multiple, non partisan sources. Obama and Holder both have been found not guilty of any negligence or wrong doing. Sorry that pisses you off, but that's a fact. Obama has no intention of banning any weapons, that's right wing rhetoric to stir up ignorance.
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I'm sorry, that actually wouldn't change anything... since Ginsburg is already left leaning as is Breyer (can't believe I typed that wrong in the last post). It is Scalia and Kennedy, both born in 1936, elected in by Reagan who are oldest after Ginsburg who was born in 1933. Breyer follows close born in 1938. This election could very well change the balance in the Supreme court.
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The real REAL question is: Can anybody in the world have confidence in the UN? The answer is NO!
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arm up people!! plenty of ammo!
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You heard that on msnbc right? Congressman Issa has more character and respect for the Constitution in his little finger than this entire administration has! Fuck you - and those black, racist thugs Obama and Holder that think they are above the law.
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Aren't you contradicting yourself? First you say the winner will be the one with the best plan, and then you say Obama will win because he is popular with hopeful people. I would say neither. Mitt will win if the economy tanks or he can convince people it has tanked. Obama wins if the economy improves or he can convince people it's improving. One thing for sure: The winner will be someone with a whole shitload of money to spend.
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Indeed. Guns don't kill people, people do. Unless those guns can be loosely linked to democrats. Then Obama is a murderer.
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Oh God. 12 percent of the population is gonna lay out the majority? That'll be the day.
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