Upload

8 The Mormon Proposition: A ReThink Review & Discussion

by TYT Interviews • 9,185 views

ReThink Reviews: http://www.youtube.com/user/jsjkim Support The Young Turks by Subscribing http://www.youtube.com/user/theyoungturks Like Us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/tytnation Follow Us...

well say what you may i love being a mormon its great!
Report spam or abuse
hey Mormons stop evil humping my civil rights!
Report spam or abuse
Joseph Smith dum, dum, dum, dum, dum
Report spam or abuse
Report spam or abuse
lofl i would love to c the moron church explode like soap box on RSR and i meant to spell mormon like moron for those who want to troll on me
Report spam or abuse
"All the morons believe him, I mean!!!! mormons believe him" hehe, best ever
Report spam or abuse
It's a good thing prop 8 was passed, otherwise I wouldn't be able to be entertained by these wannabe reporters hahaha There's a reason why we got so much money- The Lord blessed us with it!!!
Report spam or abuse
@mormonanswerman Ah! The old and often used "Pascal's wager". Yes, Religion is really stupid as you show with your stupid comment. You go right ahead an believe that you have an invisible god that responds to you. Fortunately, there are those who reject your stupidity and call it as we see it.
Report spam or abuse
Wow this has so much false stuff that its ridiculous. I didnt donate and i wasnt threatened to burn in hell.
Report spam or abuse
@mormonanswerman well I'd like to hear those arguments- and it wou;dn't be "mocking" for you to do so, so I don't see why you can't,
Report spam or abuse
I'm curious as to how Joey got such a huge religion started. Did he have some remarkable charisma? Did he do a miracle? What do I have to do here?
Report spam or abuse
Basic civic illiteracy and failure to get the facts straight. It's the gift that keeps on giving.
Report spam or abuse
Report spam or abuse
So whats the liberal argument against polygamy?
Report spam or abuse
It baffles me that people still defend religion
Report spam or abuse
i have found a website webmovietube to watch movies for free..njoy
Report spam or abuse
Well it would be nice if everyone had their facts straight... 1st of all, tithing money is spent only for strictly church related expenses, such as building new chapels. There are other funds you can donate to that will be spent in areas such a PR. Also, 7% of the money raised for Prop. 8 was attributed to the LDS (Mormon) church, not "they're guessing it was about... in the end it was maybe... [they] think it was... [they] think it was maybe about 71%"... maybe... possibly... could be true...
Report spam or abuse
@djkhaless because all religion and the aspects taught within are evil, right? Sure, there are horrible things out there attributed to religion but give me a break.
Report spam or abuse
Don't forget the Black vote that was vastly Pro 8. The Mormons we already knew were bigots, but surprisingly on the same night we elected a Black president which was the fruition of the civil right movement, they voted to restrict the rights of others.
Report spam or abuse
Never should had been a vote! marriage is not Christian! when will people get it!. mates of 1 been around since before Christ & as early as american Indians in this country did not have a bible when they married in fact lots in america have been married without a bible today those of other religions. So put a law on sex which for Christians this is what they are doing we soon will be like other counties need to ask someone if we can have sex. stoning women & so on.
Report spam or abuse
i like the mormon robot analogy, but i thought most christians believed that sinners still go to heaven as long as they accept christ into their lives, because christ died for all of our sins. or does that not apply to mormons?
Report spam or abuse
This has so much incorrect info that it is comical!
Report spam or abuse
lol if it was legal for gays to get married the LDS Church wouldn't have to seal gays in there temples. Homosexuals can not get sealed in the temple. It will never happen.
Report spam or abuse
As usual this is a remarkable study in basic reasoning fallacies, sensationalism and civic illiteracy, from the supposedly "rational" TYT. Nothing new here. This is filled both with total ignorance of the whole idea of "rights" in the American tradition, as well as ignorance on basic facts about LDS Church doctrine and history. I know this isn't a show by objective scholars on this subject, but must TYT be THIS intellectually lazy?
Report spam or abuse
The Mormons are bat shit crazy . Every time i see them i wonder if they have there special underwear on lol.
Report spam or abuse
Liberal Democrats dont have minds like those of religious people. Liberal Democrats don't hate since they're not religiously indoctrinated. Liberal Democrats have compassion for the victims of unjust discrimination. Liberal Democrats are independent, free, critical thinkers who are not bamboozled by fascist organizations. Liberal Democrats are Black, Brown, White, Male, Female, Straight & Gay. Liberal Democrats politically own Ca & are so bichin that they vote gay marriage into legal status
Report spam or abuse
@kellywompers Good. That's just basic human decency. Am I supposed to be impressed?
Report spam or abuse
Im gay and I been married for 5 years already, I dont understand why the U.S. wont let their people do as they want. It always makes me laugh when I see americans calling the U.S. the land of the free. LOL
Report spam or abuse
Report spam or abuse
this is great !! going to watch this in webmovietube
Report spam or abuse
@djkhaless i know they are sexist but you should not cut out any victum
Report spam or abuse
@Temuzin11 African-Americans are generally social conservatives.
Report spam or abuse
@NavajoJoe66, well we Mormons are not ashamed of anything. We did what was necessary to ban a sinful thing.
Report spam or abuse
I've had the pleasure of knowing persons who adhere to the Mormon faith and the LDS Church. Most have appeared to have an enhanced sense of community and family which is impressive. Delightful, their faith however, I find esctalogically absurd! The LDS leaderships' decision to pour huge amounts of money into Californias' initiative process thereby gulling and frightening many Californians into voting yes on 8, I find completely offensive! Ultimately, I thank G-D, for the US Constitution!
Report spam or abuse
@Angeleer8 we do not still believe in poligamy. we did along time ago because there were not enough men for the women but the women still needed husbands to help support them but that was for a short time and we don't still believe in it!
Report spam or abuse
One of the BIG FAT LIES of "8 the Mormon Proposition" is that Proposition 8 had nothing to do with protecting religious liberty. Actually, legally speaking, that's ALL that it would have accomplished. In fact, TYT didn't bother to tell anybody that the California legislature had already granted gays the same legal rights as married couples. The CA Supreme Court even said this, but took the case anyway because they wanted lawyers to be able to sue marriage traditionalists.
Report spam or abuse
@cominginsecond its OK to ridicule all religions, and I probably could, It just so happens that by holding the stupidiest, logic-lacking beliefs, Mormon beliefs are pretty damn easy to ridicule. Catholics are mocked constantly, so don't play victim.
Report spam or abuse
Galileo was socially slaughtered for believing that the Earth revolved around the Sun. I'm agnostic and I try to respect religion as much as possible, but as a firm believer that religion is a method of human interpretation, I believe that religious beliefs are not set in stone. I just hope religious people will learn not to cause hate or discrimination through their beliefs and accept open-mindedness.
Report spam or abuse
@James0507 Funny thing is, if we were into ridiculing and mocking, if that were not AGAINST our religion to do so, I can tell you that there exists much better arguments and logic for our way of thinking, but you will not be hearing us use that. Just thought you might like to know that its not about how smart you are, its about how self-controlled you are. There are smart people with self control.
Report spam or abuse
@kokofan50 this is true, but women were the most common victims. I'm sure this has something to do with the stigma which religions have attached to women through history
Report spam or abuse
i dont know if anybody else got the ad for the fuse music awards... but that thing just promoted everything i hate about modern/radio/pop music.
Report spam or abuse
@SidheRockz The Mormon church donates more money each year to feed the poor, nurture the needy, and help in disaster relief then the amount that they put into Prop 8.
Report spam or abuse
problem is these mormons care more about anti-gay then normal people care about gay rights.
Report spam or abuse
@expertstrategy "Sinful"? Surely you are aware that the scientific consensus regarding sexual orientation is that it is not a choice and that it cannot be changed? So, how exactly can someone's very nature be "sinful"? You might as well be calling someone "sinful" by their skin color (as your church once did) or by their left-handedness. It doesn't make sense. Please do yourself a favor and educate yourself on the subject of sexual orientation.
Report spam or abuse
@mike30701 the church itself did not donate any money. Its members donated. But it doesn't matter if a member of any church donated any money. If someone donates to anything and has any faith doesn't mean that persons church donated money. Its individuals.
Report spam or abuse
Report spam or abuse
@RadarKat73080 Love thy enemy, turn the other cheek ect are in the bible. But so are these things that plant the seeds of hate. reaching heaven with love/compasion and with hate/controll are equally represented in the testaments. The wordsJesus are different than the overall words of the bible.
Report spam or abuse
@jlchavez123 The TURK is an obvious bigot towards christianity.
Report spam or abuse
Being a member of the LDS church, mormons whatever takes your fancy i never really understood the neec to be so involved in the government, as far as i see it, religion should stay out of politics and vice versa. That maybe naivete being Mitt Romney was a presidental candidate and Glenn Beck is a political commentator, but i just think the separation of church and state is there for a reason. Being from Australia, i don't know maybe our division of the church is more mellow than in the u.s
Report spam or abuse
It's not enough to take away the tax exempt status for religious institutions, it's required to tax them EXTRA. 50% or more of all income brought in by any church should be taxed.
Report spam or abuse
@TheGiantRobot There's just tons of extremely naïve people on this world, being let by emotion and a strong leader, easy to follow.... Urgh, so fucked up.
Report spam or abuse
The Book of Mormon is full of racism against Native Americans, Jews, and Blacks.
Report spam or abuse
Report spam or abuse
so not true...im used to be morman...they do NOT suppert polygamny..... fuck you all ...all this is bullshit quit bashing mormans....dont talk shit unless your a morman...all these claims are all fucking stupid and not true.
Report spam or abuse
Report spam or abuse
Report spam or abuse
@rgotine We do know why California has so many fault lines. It is on a boundary of two major plates. There is no 'god' explanation needed to explain this away, just an understanding of the science of geology and an understanding of the relative motions of the plates that make up the crust of the Earth. I doubt there was ever a place called Sodom & Gomorrah, it is what is commonly called myth.
Report spam or abuse
@fret2424 The fact that Churches don't pay taxes is stupid. But when the Church turns around and gets involved in politics, it is 100% unacceptable.
Report spam or abuse
Report spam or abuse
@sandmanhopes No one ever said marriage is christian. But the WORD marriage has a definition. Changing the definition will have legal ramifications that can not be ignored. Christians and Muslims alike, and Jews, and all other faiths with some MORALS are going to recognize that sex outside marriage (man and woman) is immoral. Atheists like gay marriage idea because they don't care about God, don't care about His commandments, don't have any morals at all. I understand their view, and vote.
Report spam or abuse
Religion is so fucking stupid!
Report spam or abuse
lol i love when cenk says OF COOOOUUURSE!
Report spam or abuse
@NaziArabianJew Jesus said some very good things. "Love your enemy" "Turn the other cheek." People use religion to treat others like crap.
Report spam or abuse
@SinisterSkip Yes, I know, tons of them. How do I get them working for me?
Report spam or abuse
Ahahahaha love how he called the "elders" "their senior leaders"
Report spam or abuse
um if mormons only take up 2% of CA then how the heck is it our fault that prop. 8 passed! more than half the ppl would of hade to vote for it! this has soo much stuff wrong about mormons! we DO NOT believe in poligamy and niether did joseph smith and he never practiced it! that is not what sealing is either. none of them know what they r talking about because none of them r mormon so dont believe what they tell u!
Report spam or abuse
Why did they never discussthe truthfullness of the content of the movie in question. Isn't the basis of any reviewing thought process the validification of truthfullness of what is being reviewed.
Report spam or abuse
Oh also look up "Banned Mormon Cartoon " on Youtube .
Report spam or abuse
WTF sealed? That is such random azz garbage. I can't stand super religious people, they are almost always retarded.
Report spam or abuse
@TheGiantRobot Say you're talking to god and wear a nice costume :)
Report spam or abuse
Report spam or abuse
@Nonamearisto But Orthodox Jews didn't lead the way in funding Prop 8 with dishonest propaganda. That's the difference. The LDS church deserves all the criticism it gets.
Report spam or abuse
@fret2424 They shouldn't take it away from all religious institutions, just the ones that do nothing to help the community in return and only use there power to make more money, like most of the Catholic Church, and most of the Mormon Church.
Report spam or abuse
You know I used to like TYT. I was about to write all the terrible things I could think of on this comment, but that would just continue an already biased angle of vision to the LDS faith. If you want to believe these people, that's your choice. But if you question just how much of an expert these guys are on what they are talking about, just message me.
Report spam or abuse
@Tylonous your first statement is a contradiction of your second statement: by your definition of worthiness, no religion qualifies for tax exempt status. /opinion
Report spam or abuse
this is for the stupid reporters. The reason why we baptize the dead is so that those who didn't have a chance to learn about the Mormon Church will go to heaven.
Report spam or abuse
God also told me he wants TYT to fix their audio levels.
Report spam or abuse
8 The moRon proposition. Whatever happened to burning churches and chasing people who makes life a living hell for others? We did it centuries ago. In the US i think it's about time to start again. besides corruption religion seems to be your biggest problem.
Report spam or abuse
Religion is the biggest mindfuck in existence.
Report spam or abuse
14:44 All the morons, um I mean Mormons <--What's the difference
Report spam or abuse
Morons, I mean morMons don't make any sense even by their own ridiculous standards. They must be able to control who gets magically sealed. Even if gays are allowed to marry, the moron church must me able to bar them from being sealed and screwing up their BS version of eternity. What the heck do they care what non-morons do? In the preceding sentence, moron stands for any religious person or sect or cult that seeks to limit the rights of anyone outside their faith.
Report spam or abuse
@WesSideCali Exactly my point. If you only follow the good parts of the Bible, I have no argument with you. I may not agree with your concept of God, but you aren't hurting or bothering anyone so I have no real reason to oppose you
Report spam or abuse
Marrage itself, i believe, is unconstitutional. Nothing blurs the separation of church and state more than the US government supporting and reconizing the religious ritual of marrage. With that in mind, we should be pushing for civil(state) unions, not marrage(a religious ceremony).
Report spam or abuse
@mistacramer A lot of gay teens kill themselves, especially in Utah, because of such statements (better to be dead than gay)
Report spam or abuse
This such bologna. None of the Apostles talked to anyone to raise funds. Members were simply encouraged to vote, donate money, and time to pass the measure. Members don't have to agree, the church is an intellectual body. For instance, members of the church disagreed with the hierarchy for years over the practice of denying the priesthood to members of African descent. Non-members don't understand how the church operates.
Report spam or abuse
So if gay marriage happens then mormonism dies? Fucking good argument for gay marriage.
Report spam or abuse
There missing the point... its about the money lebowski... Shake the faith and their "church" gets less money
Report spam or abuse
too bad joseph smith didn't want to bang his butler, then there would be no prop 8.
Report spam or abuse
The way the mormon religion is being discribed seems very similar to scientology......none the less it's all garbage.
Report spam or abuse
@wwwhyperforgamescom In the film, they talk about how the Mormon Church took money that had already been budgeted for church use and secretly funneled it to a front group fighting gay marriage in Hawaii. Also, the church issued a statement for its members to get involved and donate to pro-prop 8 causes, which is illegal. I believe the church also bundled tax-free donations to the church and donated them to prop 8 causes.
Report spam or abuse
The Garden of Eden is in Missouri? How did they develop that stance/theory?
Report spam or abuse
but i was always opposed to proposition 8, my beliefs regarding homosexuality and being my brother's gay have helped be to see it doesn't seem right to deny these people the same rights and priviledges that everyone else had, and i as believe the late Gordon B. Hinkley, president of the church had a non discriminatory stance on homosexuality. I believe that God and Jesus look at the character of a person not their skin colour and sexual orientation. Maybe it's because i'm not as fervent as
Report spam or abuse
@jdh501 It is sad to say but in most cases those who were once oppressed tend to continue the oppression pf others. There were some black churches that also supported Prop 8. This saddens me since I am black.
Report spam or abuse
@JohnRhysMusician Maybe non-members don't understand because Mormons keep so many of their rituals secret.
Report spam or abuse
did anybody else get that pop up ad for eckankar?? fucking SPOOKY shit.
Report spam or abuse
so not true...im used to be morman...they do NOT suppert polygamny..... fuck you all
Report spam or abuse
It's 2010, time to revoke the tax exempt status for ALL religious institutions! I pay tax, you tax tax........They need to pay tax. TYT, I talked to god and he commanded me to instruct you to FIX YOU AUDIO!!!!!! I'm tired of cranking up my speakers just for your channel, only to be blasted during the ads. You fixed it before! Step 1. FIX Step 2. IT Step 3. FIX IT!
Report spam or abuse
No one is forcing any church to marry anyone. Churches are religious institutions are are exempt from being a ''public accommodation''. Federal Law.
Report spam or abuse
Show more Loading...
Sign in to add this to Watch Later

Add to