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Subaru BRZ vs Ford Mustang! - Head 2 Head Episode 7

by Motor Trend Channel • 2,723,365 views

On this episode of Head 2 Head, Angus MacKenzie pits the 2013 Subaru BRZ against its American rival - the 2013 Ford Mustang V6. After carving up canyon roads in both cars, Angus hands the keys over...

I got a 2014 mustang gt track pack with moderate mods and I'll tell ya... I'm taking this car to the grave!
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+Nick Motsarsky the interior is nicer. But look wise it doesn't hold a candle to the 2013/14. There is an overwelming majority who shares that opinion. If you don't then you never liked Mustangs to begin with
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+HELLASgate7  Mustangs everyone and there mother has one
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Aventador Shared on Google+ · 3 weeks ago
Subaru BRZ vs Ford Mustang
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American cars break down easily, and are ridiculously heavy, lumbering clumsy beasts. They go fast, but only in straight lines. The so called "ricers", are better cars in terms of manufacturing, precision, and design. 
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+tomnguyen717 Japanese cars are the worlds most reliable followed by German cars then Swedish and then American cars, Then British, French, Italian, Chinese and Korean in no particular order.  America makes some great cars with the new technology such as magnetic suspension. But American cars are not as good German nor Japanese when it comes to quality and detail.  Now does that mean that BMW is better than a corvette z06 absolutely not the Corvette is an amazing car with cutting edge technologies.  But as a whole car industry German cars are better with Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Porshe and VW cars all being better than what ford and GM produce.  When a German car breaks down they do cost money no doubt about that. I have to have my Audi RS5 routinely calibrated and it is not cheap. 
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+bighands69 "But as a whole car industry German cars are better with Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Porshe and VW cars all being better than what ford and GM produce. " Says the internet rumors perpetuated by noobs who have no clue whatsoever concerning the detailed facts about the automotive industry. In reality, most any "least reliable" list will have more than one german model, which says a lot, imo, when you consider the amount of german models compared to the amount of American models. You really can't lump such a vast array of vehicles together based on country of origin. It's almost as bad as saying "blue cars aren't reliable" or something like that. With such a wide variety of manufacturers and vehicles being produced from a single country, the nation of origin is virtually completely irrelevant. What actually matters is the specific make and model, not the country that the manufacturer happens to be based out of. For instance, Honda, Toyota, and Subaru almost always make extremely reliable vehicles whereas Nissan and Mitsubishi have made their fair share of duds. The chevy prizm was just a rebadged toyota corolla for many years and the pontiac vibe has been a toyota matrix for years as well, which is the same platform as the corolla. Therefore, there are at least two american cars right there which are EXACTLY as reliable as japanese cars.
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Thing I like about the 86/FR-S and BRZ is they're still fairly unique/uncommon on the roads (at least where I live) due to them still just being so relatively new. Stangs are a dime a dozen yawn. I test drove an FR-S (which I later bought =D) around a movie theater parking lot and some dude was taking pictures of it. That by itself says something. Not to mention, Rocket Bunny.
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the Rocket Bunny kit makes them look super nice. I would gladly buy one of these frs/brz fun boxes but money has to go somewhere else at the moment. good luck with the frs i bet your face hurts from smiling everyday you drive it
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The colour of the Mustang... honestly... I swear, it's going to make me puke!
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Im sorry but owning a 6 cylinder mustang I could never wrap my head around. I don't care how much hp improvement comes its way. You either own a mustang with 8 cylinders or choose another option.
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+TheKams5 I didnt say that. so your the fucking idiot.
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+ThomasRocks22 Yes I would still get a V8 and I would race, it's a muscle car not a family sedan.
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Mercedes can make a 2.0L turbo engine make 360hp but it still sounds shit, gimme a throatier V6 any day.
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BRZ plz or GT86,FRS same thing
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God Damm what's up will all those import hatters..?. Jesus christ...both cars are good for you like ! Mustang or any American muscle = Straight line, import means turns and straight lines ! Like 0-60 go for American muscle ... like to enjoy driving and the connection with the car then go import.
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+renato muu A little american car called a corvette can do both son
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I like the people saying how American cars are only fast in a straight line even though the Mustang beat it around the track.
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True, but the Mustang beat it only because it has a 100hp advantage, not because it actually is a better handling car.
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I hate Ford stupid company !!
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+leo messi Lol, please tell me you're trolling. Oh wait, if you're trolling why would you tell me?
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I think the Subaru looks the sexiest in this video. I just don't like the look of the mustang.
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having said all the things i have said here! the 2015 mustang for sure is a peice of marvel! i luv how auto makers are taking more pain and research to get the base model perfect! every full blown model is full of specs: power, torque, anti-roll bars, brembo, etc! its these well thought of fine tunning in base model is what is more interesting for me. I got WRX 2015 base cause its truely a much better car then STI cause STI is what its always been with slight tweeks, but the base WRX with its new FA 20 motor, 41% stiffer chassis, 21% less fading brakes, twin scroll turbo is what makes it so competitive with its own full blown STI. same goes to ford here: kudos to this ecoboost base: lots of HPs in a inline 4 with twin turbo. independent suspension. better handling, better everything. then we have a different cuter hooligan league: focus / fesita FT, golf GTI. etc   good job auto industry! its the 25K to 40K segment that is getting more interesting for me to not even bother looking at 60+ K segement!
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Ford V6 1 second faster whilst being several hundred pounds heavier and having a live rear axle, can't explain that. Oh wait, you can, overpriced subbie :(
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Both of these cars are great, put a smile on your face, and Both at a low price
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Wow, Mustang is much cheaper than i tought!
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Why weren't these cars raced?!
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I'm a die hard Ford fan and love the Mustang, but I think if I was buying one or the other I'd have to buy the BRZ. 
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BIG PROBLRM HERE IS THAT YOU CAN GET A MUSTANG GT FOR $30K. PERSONALLY I PREFER THE BRZ/FRS OVER THE V6 MUSTANG. BUT EVEN IT IS JUST A VERY BASE GT, I WILL STILL TAKE IT OVER THE BRZ/FRS
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Easy...... Mustang v8 GT      35,605 (not the premium package)         ......Subaru 2015 STI    40 000 (premium) after ONLY 5 years              Mustang lose more than 10 000 to 15 000 dlls in price              STI         lose only 5 000 to 10 000 maximun after 10 years             Mustang Price 5 000 to 9 000 dlls (if under 100k miles)             STI         Price 17 000 to 22 000 dlls (check princes your self) Maybe not eveyone think about YOUR money....... but i think the best option is SUBARU Sorry for my grammar is suck i know
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Took a v6 to beat a 4 banger by one second. \/ such a tough guy you are.
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Why do ALL white people I've personally ever seen pronouncing Subaru say su-BU-ru?? Come on white people, there's an A for a reason, not a U!!!
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He said that mustang wasn't a secretary's car. My legit my schools secretary drives a cherry red one. I find it funny :)
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Meanwhile I'm just sitting here and saying, "wow they're both great cars"
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I'd be willing to bet that with wider and stickier tires on the brz, it would match the mustang or even possibly beat it. these cars aren't really comparable though, one is bigger, comfier, and faster in a straight line. the other is a no frills handling car with driving as it's center-point.
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Pssst. The stat sheet in the video says the BRZ has a turbocharged flat 4, but it's actually naturally aspirated..
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What a bunch of haters on both ends. No once of respectable car enthusiasts here. It's obvious both cars have there pros and cons and it's all about the type of driving you do that will determine the vehicle of choice. Clearly the BRZ is not made for straight line performance and the Mustang is not intended for track/autocross. 
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Why would anyone even consider buying a toyota gt86/subaru brz when they can buy a mustang, its a bigger,more powerful car with a much much better badge and its even cheaper!
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+fatboy19831 The mustang gt feels liek a power sedan not a sports car, i got a use ls3 vette over the 15 mustang gt, faster and handle better the best of both wourld son.
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+Ken R  I am 6.5 feet tall. I cant even fit in the new Vette or Viper.
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Honestly these 2011-2014 v6 mustangs are some of the best cars ever for the price. 305 at the crank thats enough power to have so much fun stock and it gets good mpg's. The brz/frs is also a fun little car but the lack of horsepower is what makes these cars less appealing than the sixer.
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+fatboy19831 first off I am not talking about an average joe. An average joe in manual will stay at same place or worse do weird burnouts on a "GO" call when auto guy would be completing its lap. so lets not talk about average american joe's. these are not cars to be judged under average joe's ass, even if average joe's buy them. you dont benchmark them with average joe's lap times. I have beaten a mustang like 4th time now. 2 of them were 2015. i dare you to do a track time with me as well!
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+Adil Baig Don't get it twisted. With a professional driver.  The 14 Mustang GT with track pack is faster than any Subaru sold in america today. Track drag strip. Stock to Stock. Period.  It is just as fast as the 14 M3.   Look that up.
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THAT SUBARU LOOKS LIKE A GORGEOUS AND BEAUTIFUL ANGEL FROM THE HEAVEN ,THAT STANG LOOKS LIKE A FUCKING DEVIL FROM THE FUCKING HELL.
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the mustang by comparison to the sub.. is out of its element when it comes to handling ..its like the fat girl that still want to compete in belay...not a pretty sight  lol
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Price wise And performance wise the mustang wins and i'm not even a fan of the mustang.But facts are facts wonder what the mustang could do with performance match of the price difference that it cost compared to the brz.
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Mustang/370Z would have been a better comparison imo
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Fuck I hate v6 muscle cars..
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Then don't watch a video about them...?
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Anyone know where the road the reviewer first drive these cars is?
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honestly, I would take the cash and buy a second hand BMW M-something or a used porsche etc. The BRZ always seems like a cheap and not actually that fast sports car wannabe, and it isn't a head turner. The Mustang is a bit dull now and doesn't do anything for me personally, it isn't and never will be what the name Mustang once was.
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+Ricky Garcia Parts for a used M car or Porshe are actually CHEAPER than parts for a brz..... there is absolutely no aftermarket products for a BRZ, and I seriously doubt there ever WILL be a market for cheap aftermarket parts, they don't sell enough to warrant it
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+WarmSoftKitty Uhm........ No Aftermarket for the BRZ???????? Dude are you on crack??? It's enormous!!! Much Larger than the aftermarket for say the Boxster or Cayman, and that is from someone who has looked for aftermarket 986 parts... 
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complete neutral, no dog in this fight and I'd take the Subaru over the Ford any day the Ford will get you from A to B a second or so faster but you need to fight it all the way there, life's too short
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I wonder how the BRZ compares to the new 2015 Mustang. Please make a comparison video!
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It all comes down to personal preference...power or handling. I like the BRZ but ended up getting a Mustang...originally planned on a Performance Pack V6 but ended up springing for the GT and it was worth every penny. You don't know how satisfying that V8 sound and power is until you drive it. Another area the Mustang wins in is comfort. Although that's not what you buy one of these cars for, it still matters. The BRZ is a sardine can inside. I'm 5' 11" and I felt like I could barely fit in it. The Mustang on the other hand has plenty of room, at least in the front. The rear seat is still usable though, unlike the BRZ.
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They had a track package on the Mustang so stock suspension on the Mustang is going to feel even more sluggish with a lot more roll.  A few of the simple mods on the Mustang (CAI and a re-tune) and it would strip another 1/2 second at least off of some of those numbers.
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I have always loved Subaru. They are my favorite cars.
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Anyone else notice in the chart it says the brz is turbocharged. How did they not catch that
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so ford beat the Subaru 3 out of 4 and still lost? lol
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"The top of the powertrain in this car is no higher than my knee." Yeah but you're one tall SOB.
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Dam that guy is tall as Fuck!
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V6 Mustang??? ha Ford doesnt even try. Get the brz or get a V8
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I'm wondering how the BRZ is compared to the Camaro
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Being able to turn is not a very important feature for a sports car. I was thinking about mounting a pulse engine to my skateboard. That would be pure awesomeness. I would blow any car away going from stoplight to stoplight!
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Sorry, you're not a car enthusiast at all.
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+Dwayne P I was being sarcastic. Just trying to convey that a sports car is not all about power unless all roads are straights. I own a 2014 BRZ limited and it is the only reason I wake up in the morning to drive to work.
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Serious question please don't be a jerk when answering please. Ok, So right now I'm driving a 2004 pathfinder le and was thinking about getting a car so is the S Scion FRS a good car? Or I just stay with my pathfinder?
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Go to a dealership and drive one!!!!! Then go to your next car choice and drive that car. That's why I picked my mustang over the Camaro, 370z, and challenger. I drove about 7 different cars before making my choice. It's a lot of money so don't half ass it. Find a car that suits you. I hope you find what you are looking for though.
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Holy shit! V6 MUSTANG can blow away most muscle cars from 60s.13.9 quarter mile wow
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get him the fuck out of that car. Man he is annoying to look at!!!!! *jaws (James Bond)
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Fuck this you don't like ford you who makes this video go to hell
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Leon McGee Shared on Google+ · 3 months ago
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The mustang has 100 more horsepower and much stickier tires and still was barely a second and a half faster? What a joke
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The level of stupid in these comment sections is astounding. So many noobs that have no clue what they're talking about. Let's sort this all out properly. First off: The BRZ and Scion FRS are exactly the same car. The only differences are trivial, like the name/badge, factory options/dealer pricing, and apparently suspension tweaks. Personally, I refer to all version as "GT86" or "new 8-6". Second of all: as it said, the price as tested for the mustang was a good $2K more than the BRZ. Maybe the base model is $4K cheaper but in reality that isn't that much of a gap. Start crying when you have 10 or 20K price differences. Finally: there is nothing wrong with either car. The Mustang has come a long way since the 90's. It actually looks good, the new V6 isn't a pile of shit, and it can actually handle. If you like extra punch over handling precision then the Stang is your car. There's nothing wrong with having a preference, there is something wrong with being a biased idiot. Speaking of which... As for you xenophobic yankee dumbasses, choke on this: the GT86 is also a good car. The handling and precision is sublime, and the whole idea was to dial back the power and grip levels to make for a more enjoyable road car. It's more involving, and more rewarding to drive quickly thanks to the perfect balance and low center of gravity. You can use all of its' performance on a winding road and is also highly adjustable at and beyond the limit. So for those of us who prefer a good corner carver and are willing to trade off extra power, then the 8-6 is the perfect car. The only reason it's slower at Willow Springs is because there are lots of straights and uphill sections, that course favours power. That doesn't mean gutting a BRZ, tweaking the suspension and fitting better tires couldn't make up the difference, despite the 100 HP gap it's only a second and a bit behind. If the Ford was as precise as the Toyburu it would be a much bigger gap. Instead, it's more of a muscle car, whereas the 8-6 is a bit more sports car. Technically neither are actually sports cars, but are sport coupes; but these are just trivial definitions rather than levels of status. I hope this post was educational, there is no excuse for ignorance.
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I bet the Subaru gets twice the mpg of the Mustang, too. :)
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+C Chalmers You have the Automatic? My manual dips  into the high 20's above 80 mph. To get 39 mpg i have to be going around 60 mph.
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Best drivers car?  A motorcycle.  Dam these cars are boring to watch.
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Or just buy a Honda S-2000. More power than the BRZ, better handling than the Ford mustang. I personally haven't lost to this mustang in a drag race yet, but that could be other driver error. But luckily you don't have do deal with the terrible handling of a mustang so it's a better option than both. Drivers car what you want? Buy a Honda S-2000!!
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Hear that JDM QUEERS somebody finally tested a stock ricer and a stock, base muscle car. Your little toy was blatantly declared a DRIVERS CAR, not a race car. And a V6 fucking mustang beat your little foreign piece of shit by a second and a half on the drag strip. Is that enough motivation to buy a real car? This base subaru rice-mobile is $26000 and comes standard with a 2 liter 4 cylinder engine. The base mustang is $22000, and close to 2 seconds faster. Its time to come clean. Go buy a stang.
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+Joseph Ehlmann If you could pull your head out of your ass long enough to actually WATCH THE FREAKING VIDEO then you would know that THE DOMESTIC IS FASTER AROUND THE TRACK. Mods are all completely hypothetical at best. You can't talk shit when you don't have numbers to back it up. It's like saying you could knock out Cain Velasquez when you've never been in a fight. Besides which, the suspension, breaks, etc, on the stang could be upgraded without hurting reliability, whereas there's no saying for sure as to what long term effects forced induction will do to the brz engine.
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+Shniggit you are right. 9/10 of the time forced induction will reduce the reliability, longevity of an engine to some extent. its common sense. bigger bang, more stress on the engine, shorter life.
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Nice typo right up front. "Turbocharged inline 4"? That would be nice lol
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So the Mustang is faster on the drag strip and faster on the road course and they pick the silly tuner? just checking..
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370z will dog the shit out of it and it's 22,000 and gets 320 to the wheels
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Fuck this your cars sick I have a bugatti
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To me it looks justva tiny bit like an frs
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that driver sounds like hes comparing the brz to the nsx? anyone else notice that 
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coupe-a. Guys. Its a COUPEA
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Does it fucking matter how it is fucking pronounced? Get over yourself, there are different versions of English. 
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Dem Japs simply do dis shiat good.
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I bought a V6 Mustang but I felt that the power was really lacking in the BRZ and it costed more overall with even the cost of operation. I don't mind a solid rear axle as long as I have good mileage and oodles of power.
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I hate this video say that cars are going to run and do not run anything I thought the car would run and not run the video is nonsense
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Why would you put a BRZ! vs a mustang!!!!!!!!!!
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James May looks like crap... lol
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All you  guys who are arguing here just look at the numbers. Mustang has 100 more HP than BRZ but the lap time is just a second faster. If it was a true drivers car it should be faster on the track. And as it was said in the video, Mustang had a track pack as an extra. I personally think that BRZ/FR-S is really good because it does so much with so little power. It doesn't weigh that much, it has a really good front - rear balance, low center of gravity and good steering feel. It's an efficent package that works really well. Just a good point made by Subaru and Toyota that you don't always need 500 HP to make a fun sportscar. 
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+Abraham Moua Duh, the Porsche "SUV" still packs 450+hp. It's a "SUV" in name only. The only thing saving the Mustang is a much lower center of gravity.  On a straight-away, it's going to be the Porsche SUV. There are very few SUV's that are built like Porsche's.  It's an assassin in disguise. Of course, the Mustang V6 retails for under $30K, whereas the low end Cayanne runs just north of $70K, so.. more than double the money.
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+eriks82 The 32k Mustang GT is faster. The new GT350 will be much faster than the Cayanne.
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I find old school muscle such as the 69 gto or your "hot rods" more valuable than the new chargers, mustang's, challenger's. I believe that's what muscle is (my opinion is like your ass whole we all have em)...now I drive a 95 wrx coupe and in the process of buying the 2013 BRZ limited. I have a love for the way it feels while driving, like your handling the road rather than the road handling you. I like the feeling I'm not driving a beast other wise I'd buy a truck. It's great and all that the mustang beats the suby by 2 seconds oh boy...2 seconds cornering or accelerating better can make up that w seconds and they weren't necessarily neck to neck at the same time in the video. If it were an actual race who know what might happen. I'd like to see them actually neck to neck. Props to mustang but I think BRZ <3 all the way. This is a Chick critic so in advance fuck the negative comments. I am a drag strip, rally, Baja running, track, and much more enthusiast. I have 4 years experience as a diesel mechanic and absolutely love the power behind many motors small and big. I saw some muscle sick talking about how the 6 cylinder was faster by 2 seconds (let's think about this...the Subaru is 4 cylinders and if 4 more cylinders only gave you 2 seconds on the grid I gawk at this) so let's put this in theory of the Subaru had 6 cylinders it'd put the stang in the dirt. And that is all. Mwah xoxo
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go test drive a fx4 with 3.5 eco, fricken rocket and as you're a chick driver....fx4 + U would be a man magnet!
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+Dirtyharry70585 I don't see myself buying a truck anytime soon, I want to stay sporty...I already drive the impreza coupe and want something a little different. Not only that I'm not a hug Ford fan the only way I'd associate my self with Ford it to work with them. I'd make more money fixing them than driving them. (that's again my opinion and preference) although it looks sleek dolled up. I'm more a dodge fan. Diesel at that! I really want to have a collection of vehicles my husband and I talk about needing a 20+ car garage...I don't think a specific vehicle makes a "dude magnet" for me...
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The Brz looks kinda like the Scion FR-S
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BRZ vs 4cyl ecoboost mustang next ???
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I'm surprised how subarus brang up a higher base price than that 3.7l v6 Mustang
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+MrGimmethreesteps Oh, didn't really think about that. Thanks!
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Gotta love the BRZ!
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American cars are shit in the following categories: -Unreliable -heavy -horrible drag coefficient -horribly unbalanced -ugly -lacks innovation Japanese cars are shit in the following categories -.... -.... -....?
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+GeForce GT I think Chevy is wise to stick with the wet time and leave us guessing.
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My 98 Volvo s70 non T5 could give the brzzzz a run for its money in a straight line and on the track. That's sad.
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Well enough. I paid $600.00us for my car....you've got to be some kind of a giant moron to pay $30k + for that turd.
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Mustang might have been over a second faster, but he was still just driving a huge American car at the finish line. I'd take the BRZ ANY day. American cars are so fail.
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Уеs. I russian! Да. я русский
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the BRZ kinda Looks Like the TOYOTA GT86 haha
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ohw. haha now i know XD
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Subaru and Toyota teamed up the make the BRZ/FR-S(AE86 GT). They are basically twin cars with slight differences.
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Coohoohool!!!!!!! I always wanted to see this! 
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7:06 "you don't have to slow down too much" Yeah cuz this turd isn't going fast to begin with
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YOU GUYS ARE LIARS THAT WAS A FORD MUSTANG BOSS SO IT WAS CLEAR THAT  MOTOR TREND IS A LYING COMPANY
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for a under power car like the BRZ.  I would say the brz is more effcient.  Why compare a v6 to a boxer 4? lol compare the dang mustang to like a 370Z or something god dang it. big muscle always trying to pick on little 4 piston. lol they never pick on something their level lol
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The V6 Mustang and BRZ are at the same price point in the states both are RWD with limited slips with HIDs standard.  I shopped the Mustang before I purchased my BRZ.
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If you compare base off by price, I usually compare off by performance.
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It's not "surgical precision" that makes the Subaru easier to drive. It's the fact that it's WAY smaller and lighter. The most poorly built go-cart in the world would handle corners better than the Soob just because of the massive difference in weight. Some drivers aren't pussies, though. Some drivers want a car that is fast and exciting, not a car that is easy to drive. Just sayin, lol.
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+Adil Baig Thats what I was trying to tell him... but some people just don't understand so its pointless typing paragraphs.
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+iawrence Tian Actually we agree. I'm glad to see so many people here who are educated. It's just that when you first said "stiffer", you meant GENERALLY stiffer than stock, which is true. The mistake some people make which I was trying to correct is that they think that all suspensions should always be "stiffer" than they already are. There is a point of diminishing returns and that point depends on where you're going to be driving. Tracks don't have so many dips, etc, and that's why you can get away with relatively stiffer suspension, but if you drive that same car on the street it can cause problems because of irregularities on roads that aren't there on the track.
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Nice so motor trend decided to put a Race car vs a Everyday driver car for a everyday driver test. Makes perfect sense. I also realize trend hates Mustangs. So why not compare the Focus ST instead? Maybe cause Ford would win. 
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What the fuck is a v6 it is called 1.0 2.0 2.5 3.0 4.0 5.0 not v6
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there both chick cars, no real man buys a v6 mustang
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do they give you a ruler to measure your penis size too when you buy a V8 mustang?
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