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Skyrim Light Armor vs Heavy Armor

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*** EXPAND FOR LINKS *** Skyrim Light Armor vs. Heavy Armor comparison commentary. Tradeskill Template - # 1.5 Guide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=052TiX-HrDY Necromage Vampire effect on...

Funny how you say "alot of you like the look of daedric armor" I absolutely hate it and I never used it. Plain old iron / steel / banded iron looks the best.
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+Mr. Snow Show York'eso .|. Yes, but everyone here was referring to Skyrim's design. Why would you be referring to any of the previous games' designs?
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+Nexecute [Ben] Well, when I said daedric I meant all of them.
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I have an Ebony armor set (with Ebony Mail) with the amount of 296, and i have Nightingale armor set with the amount of 255...which should i pick?
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+PhoenixJK depends on how you play, if youre using stealth or archery go light, if you are not, go heavy
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+Nathan Shiels but, that ebony mail gives u stealthy thing when sneaking
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If you can reach the armor cap with light armor then what the fuck is the point with heavy armor at all?
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I think I'll just play naturally, and not worry about all these complicated complications. I'm a sneaky, light armor, whatever it takes to beat the bad guy type of magical, backstabbing punk of a dysfunctional jerk.  I'll drink snarky potions to get the job done. Hell, I'll even hire some drunken slog of Skyrim's societal cesspool to help get the job done. Chase me after my backstab, run to my magical runes, shocking flames, familiars, conjurations, zombies, and poisoned arrows. You have no hope you clanking metal tanks! Surrender now before you're subjected to my 50+ speechcraft.   >:|
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Light Stalhrim Armour It's light, can break the armour cap and, in my opinion, looks awesome with the exception of the helmet... but you can easily replace that with something else. Like a dragon priest mask.
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With heavy armor perks you get increased melee damage, 50% less stagger, you also can run as fast as normal, less fall damage, and a 10% chance to deflect damage back. Dragonplate ftw! =P
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He explained all those in the video and some of them don't even work
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They do for me. All of them do.
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it negates all damage coz the game it to stupid to tell if it was an arrow to the knee or a war hammer to the face
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I wish light armor gave extra side to side strafing speed or something so that dodging attacks would be easier than heavy, its already not that hard, but it would be nice
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Dont like how elven armors fucking gay as fuck?, max out thieves guild.
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But that takes out some of the fun! By the way, most people shun me already, so I don't really care about that.
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I know you're probably shunned, you are a hard to like person from what I can tell.
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You picked the girl character???
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+ayman chukri  depends what playthrough if im warrior i use armour if im an archer i use light armour or npc clothes that look cool
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+PaladinThallorne KILL YOURSELF, AUTISTIC FUCKING AUTISM WHITE KUD FAGGOT, NO. DIE!!!!!!
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Brilliant and helpful video! Answered all of my questions😜
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What does it matter when any armor can reach the armor cap. I like how banded iron armor looks on my old buff imperial. I made the guy a juggernaut with the shield charge perk. Its so fun seeing them fly up in the air or drop them off cliffs. And wrist bands with fortify unarmed of 300 damage so he can punch with his bare hands. Hey if its in the game its legit so I'll use it.
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personally why have heavy armour (example) when its armour is 50 and weight is 30 when you can have light armour 50 and weight 1.5 like da fuq logic..
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But still, picking heavy armor than light will tank you up faster. Unless of course you sneak a lot. 
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Heavy armor is better shuer you can sneak better in light armor but with heave you can take more damage and just upgrade health to carry more stuff I don't even bother with light at all I see it I don't even want to take it to sell it it's just a wast of time so heavy armor is better
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they shouldve had heavy and light armour affect the game more, such as weapon swing speed, how quickly you can bring up a shield and have perks to counter ultimately leading to light and heavy armour being near the same with only small differences in say damage resist and movement speed
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I'm so lazy to do the maths, so you do it for me xD. Is it possible to reach 567 armor rank in light armor without having to invest in the light armor tree? Suppose you have it improved up to legendary...?
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Yes.  You can make ANY armor set 567
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whispers console commands or restoration glitch
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You can reach the cap in either and any flaws they have are irrelevant at higher levels. Just choose whatever one you want.
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glass armor would get you to the cap faster than elven though, unless you rinse smithing and light armor. I prefer not to craft at all, at first it was fun but now i just hate doing it... Just get marked for death, slow time and elemental fury as fast as possible and if you time and execute them well you don't need crafting for legendary. I'd suggest getting good defenses and crowd control for such a build though. Mfd takes some time
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wind shear is supposed to always stagger no matter what dude so yea
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Light anomer look cool use a bow
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The light armors in Skyrim all look too, dare I say, stupid. Even the Dragonscale armor, too spiky. Though the Dragon plate isn't all better, although it does look badass, it looks less protective than the steel armor, too many openings. The Ebony looks great on a female, snug in all the right places wink wink  I would dare say that although it's not as efficient as the other armors the most badass in my opinion is the Dwarven armor, makes you look like a fucking tank but the helmet looks a bit stupid. It's a damn shame you can't customize the armor pieces in some ways, I am aware of mods but mods don't cover everything.
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+combinecommando001 The nightingale armor looks amazing, and has great enchantments, except the illusion enchant is worthless
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"Black Mage Armor" Mod! ;)
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Does clothing cound as light armor? because I want dragonscale armor and a prieshood because it looks badass. I want to do this because i absolutely hate the dragnscale helmet.
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+Benzux The Ender Master no I just want it because it look awsome. I mean the dragon scale armor with a priest hood from solstheim is awsome (I chose that hood because it is unenchanted).
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Holy Crap! I've been playing this game since it came out and I didn't realize how complex it was until now with this vid...Dang! I feel dumb!
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I honestly question why any stealth build would even attempt to use heavy armor, I ALWAYS go light when making stealth builds, of course with almost every other build I'll use heavy due to the better damage resistance in the early-game, that being said, in the end-game, it really doesn't matter, as you can reach the 80% damage resistance rather easily with both armor types even without use of the tradeskills.  What it really comes down to is how you play your game, heavy is a good choice for tanker and warrior builds who tend to be up close and personal with enemies while light is good for thieves, assassins and nightblades, but as I said, purchase the correct perks throughout your game and in the end you can play any class with any armour type.
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Light is my fav cuz it wieghs nothing and if you have 100 sneak you are invisible until you stand up
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Just got to 15:40 in the video. How retarded would one have to be to sneak around in heavy armor? You seem to be missing the point of it if you're just going to be sneaky...
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+mutilator97 or when he was just throw 100 yards away, off a cliff, into the ocean.
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I don't know why people do that. Heavy armor is for taking tons of damage and not moving around a whole lot. Light armor is used for moving relatively fast and strafing around your enemy. I don't sneak with my light armor, I use it for moving faster. Once I find the Steed Stone, I will use heavy armor.
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Since this is an old video, i re-tested everything on PS3 and the armor cap still is 567 (80%). However, you need to spend more perk points in the light/heavy armor tree to acheive the cap than you see on this video, so getting Ebony or Glass isn't a waste of points considering you also upgrade better weapons. Also, its possible to achieve the armor cap with the Light Ancient Shroud armor with the same amount of perk points as Glass (9) even though you only upgrade it to flawless, assuming your only using 100 Smithing and Light Armor. IMO, Alteration>Light Armor>Heavy Armor. With Alteration, you just need to get the Dragonhide spell at master level and it will get you to the 80% cap, no need to grind Smithing skill to 100 and waste a load of perk points on armor skills. It also levels up very fast compared to armor skill. Your character won't have any armor noise penalty for stealth and moves at 100% speed without spending more perk points. You also have the "Magic Resistance" perks that can boost up to 30% magic resistance.
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+NordicEagleVids Yes you are right, the recast thing every 30sec (45 with stability) makes it boring to use and that 4/5 sec charge before cast makes it worse although you can mitigate it with slow shout. It works very well with a one-hand dual wield character build since you kill enemys very fast. Another build that works very well with alteration is the basic Sword and shield (One-hand and Block), the 30% magic resistance and the 50% from the Block skill perk makes you acheive the 80% magic cap, add the shield Spellbreaker and you are pretty much magic-proof.
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Dont forget elemental resist since magic and elemental resist stack :) 80% magic + 80% elemental resist Will make any mage appear to be nothing more than a conjourer of cheap tricks.
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Use the stead-stone for "unhindered by armor" attribute + carry 100 points more. Deepens your pockets and your movement is unaffected no matter the armor ;) Viola!
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apparently he figured it out too, never mind.
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or just play the game naked with ur fists no  need to worry about all those weight problems
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Breton blood 50% magic resistance  lord stone 25% magic resistance(plus 50 damage resist ) 1 perk point in magic resist in alteration [It isn't much of a waste because I already invested 3 point in alteration up to adept for the transmute and telekinesis spell which makes the game a hell more fun plus with telekinesis you feel like a Jedi and at the last levels of the game you want to troll your enemies because they cant do shit to you] And you need to be as tanky as possible to kill the ebony warrior which requires you kill Karstag(google auto corrected it to Karnataka WTF) who has a nasty blizzard spell 
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I took on alduin at LVL 7 with a legendary wooden sword and blades armour I didn't see dragonbane
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I think dragon bane is at alduins wall next the chest with blades armour in it
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just noticed in this video... daedric arrows appear to be retextured forsworn arrows o.o
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Holy fucking shit ur right!!!
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I use fists of steel to win faster in fist fight bets
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a like light armor and if any of u dont like how they look install deadric assassin light armor mod
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overanalyzing the shit out of this
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Not a bad thing. I learned a ton. 
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why are they all called Legit armour ?
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You got some serious knowledge ! Thanks for Vid mate Subbed !
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He forgot to mention that for about every 7 armor rating = 1% more damage reduction
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when they say stagger I think they mean like if draugr deathlords use unrelenting force shout on you. you will be sent flying 50% less of the time. I don't know if it is. but in my thieves guild armor when doing Skuldafn I get flying every time they shout but in my heavy armor with tower of strength perk I don't get flying as much even when hit with two of them. this is after patch 1.9 though. they might of fixed since you did this video in 2012. let me know what you think.
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i Never Upgrade any armor tree i only Play with Looted gear^^ Never had Major Problems
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Had a 1789 ar and took on a dragon giant and two mammoths and took no damage there isn't s cap
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When!?!? Really?!?!? SOMEONE MAKE A VIDEO ON 360!!!
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+pms00 I use blades armor with no upgrades/enchantment and my last set of armor steel I could only upgrade to fine. how to I get pass fine improvements (email replies: Theswaff699@gmail.com)
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Can i disable all sounds from heavy armor?
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the best thing about dadric armour is that you can use fists of steel and it to help in a fists only playthough
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Darn, i never tried it out but thanks for telling me i thought you could throw it.
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+Dante Inferno They're pretty crappy arrows too, but most of the damage doesn't come from the arrows anyways. They also feel pretty inaccurate, but I'm not sure variable arrow accuracy is even a thing in the game.
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Can someone tell me why he is so concerned with not spending perk points?
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what command did u use to get perks?
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Thanks ! I really wasn't sure about which one i was going to pick. But i now decided to go Light Armour since you can get cap also and there are some badass sets in light. Light Armour FTW !
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There is no cap anymore with legendary, so every perk in heavy is useful. The 50% stamina regeneration perk is a joke as you can achieve 100% regeneration with enchantments. Light armor was alright when the game was first released, but as time progressed it is now dirt with legendary, the patches, and D.L.C.s that allow you to respec all your skill points. I created two sneak characters, one who used heavy armor and one who used light armor. The heavy armor one stayed hidden just as easily and died less hmmmm I wonder why? Maybe because if you create a sneak character you're going invest in sneak regardless which will mitigate all heavy armor penalties. Also I have 500 stamina on my warrior and I can still sprint half the map. You used windshear to test the stagger, that's a joke of a test because windshear is a guaranteed stagger every time. This video is clearly light armor biased. I can't stop laughing at how you butchered what was supposed to be a scientific approach to solving this "debate" on which is better.
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+Jynx MSC It can also help vampires regenerate stamina in the sun .
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I'm using Thieves Guild Master armor oO Cause it looks cool
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Lol people have their opinion in my opinion dragonscale is very cool
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+Janitra Tantalus yeah. i've got a custom-enchanted set geared for some one-man-army-stuff
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This was just confusing as shit but that's just me
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the potion/enchanting loop exploit that make this armor rating possible, is it fixed?
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cough cough deathbrand cough cough
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Played years and never knew about the armor cap xP thanks man
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sigh as much as I hate to admit it heavy armor is better But I want a really good light armor cause my charector is an assassin V_V and heavy armor slows you,makes you louder and sorry but Idk Its kinda weeird
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If you're going for an assassin, light armour is better. Simply because you're faster wearing it, so you can attack and dodge better. I'm a tank, two handed. I don't need to dodge, so I go for heavy, but if were to use two weapons I'd definitely go for Light armour
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the problem with the stagging perk, is because u gave her a bugged weapon that sword always stagg no matter what. sry for my english
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I wear daedric because it looks cool :)
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Ok. Nightingale is cooler
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In my opinion dragonscale is very cool
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Heavy absorbs more damage plus it has a higher armor rating than light armor
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Well, the armor with the highest rating in the game is light.
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no dragon is abel to get up to 1300+ and light 870. light is for assasins not dragon slayers.
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did patch 1.9 change the armor cap of 567? looked around and couldn't even find an armor cap.
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Outstanding analysis, I wish there were more videos with this level of detail. The quality of your video is amazing. 
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I am sorry if this sounds stupid but is it better to craft then enchant your own armour of find sets such as deathbrand or nightengale
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An enchanted dragonscale armor will be better than deathbrand and the nightingale
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1) The Legendary Edition removes the 81 cap level. By this you could level infinitely. So, it is not about the armor rating cap. 2) There is a reason to have an armor rating above the 542 (displayed armor rating when wearing all four pieces of armor and a shield), or 567 (without a shield), or 667 (when not wearing any armor or shield at all). There are  perks in one handed and two handed skills. a) one handed: Bone Breaker - Attacks with maces ignore X% of armor b) two handed: Skullcrusher - Attacks with warhammers ignore X% of armor where X is 25 or  50 or 75 for both one and two handed. So, if you have a displayed armor rating of 1000 and you are hit by a bandit with a warhammer and he has Skullcrusher perk (75%) your armor rating "acts" as would be only 250 not 1000 ... I think it's all clear now, the armor rating counts, depends on circumstances.
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+Florin Manolache If you don't have MODs installed that gives NPCs enhanced crossbows or other things that ignore armor it is pointless to stack armor beyond the cap.
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+Naru In vanilla there are bandits with perks that ignore armor. Read above!
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Question: Regarding the defensive cap, is it only 80% damage resistance no matter what; regardless of Armor rating Beserker Rage Secret of Protection Dragon hide Bones of the Earth Etc. The defensive cap cannot exceed 80% damage resistance? Please answer and reply (preferably with proof) asap. -thanks in advance
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I like being able to be OP on the highest difficulties but i dont want to be 100% invincible 99.99% is perfect
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In an update they added legendary skills and infinite leveling so no wasted perks
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On my first playthrough I went with light armor and maxed it out and it was fairly effective, and had some good perks as to having higher stamina, moving faster and being quieter to make sneaking fairly easy. On my second playthrough, I went with heavy armor, maxed that out and got the weightless perk, and then dumped a lot into the sneak skill tree and get the muffle perk... Now my heavy armor doesn't weigh anything, the muffle perk makes me silent so sneaking is super easy, and I have an armor rating of 250+ vs 150+ in light armor...  At this point light armor is practically useless.  And I was able to do all that by level 30. 
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How do you 'recolor' a helmet? Is it a mod?
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Played years and never knew about the armor cap xP thanks man
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Melee is pronounced "May-Lay" www.dictionary.com.
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Why would pronunciation matter?
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dragon bone bow VS daedric bow
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Im a khajiit deadric mage called sir catty catington lol
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Ate you sure I never was able to play on master because I was killed to fast and my Amour rating is 2000 and I don't die as fast
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10:30, obviously if you use Windshear you will ALWAYS get staggered. That weapon is so OP since it staggers everything from skeevers to Alduin even on legendary, so of course it will stagger you even with Tower of  Strength. And in the "sneak" test if you use the Ebony Mail you are practically invisible, also in combat (with all sneak perks).
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About the sneak test: the daedric armor not making any noise isn't a bug, glitch, or anything like that. If you actually read silence, it says that walking or running do not affect detection. This means that the perk is working correctly because you can wear daedric armor and not care about being heard.
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he was using wind shear for exactly the 100% stagger. the test was to see the amount of stagger (the length of time where you can't do anything), not the chance
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Heavy armor and two handed weapons
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Just use deathbrand set its non upgradedversion is better than daedric and requires no smithin
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So if I have more than 567 armor rating, i can wear whatewer i want if it get me this number. Now I understand why I feel no difference wearing a legendary dragon armor set, or a daedric set. By the way I use light armor as well, like the tief guilds armor, because it looks cool.
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so did the armor cap change when they added the DLCs? or when they allowed legendary difficulty and skills?
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Both are good heavy is for people who like to run in a swing swing swing light is for assassins i like light
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Nightingale armour is the best looking
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and legendary three sneak
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if anyone is still fighting about the armor just remember it all is up to the personal wants of a person both armors have good and bad points to each of them 
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u drooped a fucking boom on me
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Light Armour is better and dragonscle looks badass
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+Good Ol' Rainbowpet No. you punch dragons to death like real man. You don't use those toothpick daggers and slice a dragon with your spaghetti wrists. Stop stealing sweetrolls thief.
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+Good Ol' Rainbowpet The most amazing way to kill someone is with illusion... I mean... make them kill themselves.
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great video, helped me lots. thanks 
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A lot changed since Feb 2012. In the strictest power gamer-y sense, it used to be a question of using Otar (heavy, +30% to each elemental resistance) versus the stamina benefits of light armor; on the PC, the unofficial patch restored the moonstone light armor priest mask's ?intended? bonus to shout cooldown, which combined with the Talos Amulet and Stability gives level-1 Slow Time around 75% uptime. But now they have the priest masks in Dragonborn that increase elemental damage, great for mages and warriors (See: Chaos damage enchantments), so heavy armor tends to take the lead. And now that I think about it, I guess you could just take off your armor when you're not in combat.
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If you invest in heavy/light armor perks and smithing, you can reach the cap in either and easily make up for any "disadvantages". Really, the one you choose only matters in the beginning of the game. Just choose whichever one you like.
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Yep, at engame it was just for Aesthetics. And a good set of Nordic Carved armor or Stalhrim armor beats that
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33173548 armor rating
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I hope you guys realize the armor Cap is 567, meaning that anything over that will be rendered useless. Unless You have mods of course.
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Daedric armor looks fucking retarded.
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Oh, I didn't know there was an armor-cap. Thanks.
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I prefer light armor over heavy, simply for the extra mobility and easy stealth play with it. Light armor works best for elves with sneak/archery(Wood elf) for the powerful stealth and power skills behind it.
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