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"Atheists...What if you're wrong??"

by bdwilson1000 • 365,285 views

An answer to a common question from believers. Reuploaded with permission of TheoreticalBS. Check out his channel for more great videos: http://www.youtube.com/theoreticalbullshit Transcript:...

what if a Christian died and went to an Islamic heaven?
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+peet vermeulen RE: As if , in you're case , there's any use *Sniff* *Sniff*...I smell a pathetic coward!!! With ZERO responses to ANY of the points raised!!!! Can you imagine a world where the retarded inbred fuckwits of society are telling the rest of us what's right and wrong??! That is what WILL happen unless this shitty excuse for a worldview; AKA belief in disbelief, is completely eradicated. RE: What if you're wrong ?? YOU ARE WRONG!!! Just what is the name of fuck makes you think you are correct? Your views are subject to change, just like the weather!!! And no, it's not because of evidence!!! YOU ARE RELYING ON THAT ELUSIVE PIECE OF EVIDENCE TO GIVE EVEN THE SLIGHTEST BIT OF CREDIBILITY TO YOUR POSITION!!! Right now, you have NONE!!!! You are EVEN MORE HIDEOUS THAN A CHRISTIAN, and boy, let me tell you, they are OUTRAGEOUSLY retarded!!!! You disbelieve in God, without assessing the reasons why WE BELIEVE IN GOD!!! And then you claim there's no evidence!!! You talk about fallacies, and circular reasoning, without realising you are committing the most hideous fallacies of all; Strawman, appeal to ignorance and assuming the conclusion!!!! Pfffft!!! Be gone you pathetic ninny!!!
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+Michael Dennis RE: I think you meant muslim hell Muslim hell? MUSLIM HELL?!? What the..Ffff... *SIGH*
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If we are wrong, we are wrong. That's the end of it.
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+Azirahael RE: As to the quran, where are gods words burned into the moon in 1000 mile high letters? WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I didn't see this incredible piece of shit, until just now!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Where is 1000m...Hahahahahaha...Moon!!! PAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! XD XD XD Ok...Lets address this pile of junk!!! WHY THE MOON??? Why not send something down to Earth? Something that cannot be explained using conventional methods or wisdom? Something that can only point to the divine, and be a sign for those to come thousands of years later...? I have presented ample evidence; Here...Here's another.. “Heavens and the earth were once one mass” meaning that they were a SINGLE UNIT "before they were split asunder" Or separated from one another...It can ONLY refer to the origins of the UNIVERSE!!! And the expanding universe? The statement that the universe is expanding is also there... Before the advent of the telescope and other instruments to determine these things, these AND much much more were stated in the Quran. STILL NOT EVIDENCE!!!!! BUT NO EXPLANATIONS AS TO WHY!!! Hmmm...A word of advice: Never enter into battle unarmed... Because THIS is what happens.
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Ethics and morality is doing the right thing because it's the right thing to do....and doing it when nobody is watching.
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Richard Dawkins already has one of the best answers for this. The answer to a Christian asking you "what if you're wrong?" is to simply ask him back "what if you're wrong?" There are literally thousands of religions out there which demands one thing or another. What if you were wrong and the Muslims were right? The Greeks? What if, we've been burying people for the last few hundreds of years without putting coins on their eyes or under their tongue to pay the ferryman turned them into vengeful ghosts that couldn't cross over into the afterlife? What if the Greeks were wrong? Some religions and cultures do not allow metal to be in contact with the body after death because the metal would hold them to this spiritual realm and not allow them to pass over. How can you say that yours is the right one and all of these others are wrong? I can't prove that your god doesn't exist. But can you prove to me that all these other gods also do not exist and therefore you don't need to follow what they say? I believe it's put something like this. By stating that you are a Christian you are already an atheist of thousands of other religions. All an atheist does is that we went one god further than you did.
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even if god was real i still wouldnt follow him because many things. such as not helping people who really need help and many things listed in the bible. i would be like "fuck you god i dont want to follow you you suck dick."
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Here, this is my last attempt to explain to you why hell is a punishment that many deserve. http://www.gotquestions.org/eternal-hell-fair.html
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+Psycho Zebra Instead of of a theological question, please answer this. These are my last questions: 1)Does a parent need to threaten their child with torture to make them love them? 2)If a child rejects their parents absolute authority, I'm not talking about big crimes simply questioning, is it moral for that parent to abandon their child to the hands of an abuser? To say either submit or I will leave you to their will? 3)Can you truly consider such coercion love? Again, this is not an argument about the existence of god, but the morally reprehensible nature of hell. If anything, the idea of hell makes god a less believable thing to me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not angry at god, I just don't see any evidence of his existence. I do find hell independently immoral. Because this perspective shift of blaming the victim and dehumanization is the EXACT TACTIC the Third Reich utilized in implementing their "final solution." It scares me when humans can think this logic is acceptable.
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If god is omnibenevolent, there is no need for a hell, eternal damnation, fire and brimstone, etc. He just forgives everyone anything, they´ve done wrong in their earthly existence. On the other hand, who defines, what is wrong or right? God? Well, if it´s the god from the Bible, chances of anyone getting to heaven for fufilling that Gods standards of morality,  are very, very slim! I rather try to live a good life, be a good person, as far as my abillities and my own moral standards go, than spend my life in fear of gods punnishment in my supposed afterlife.
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God loves you just the way you are!
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+Eli_Fai5 Except, if he's not a believer, he's still going to hell, according to [insert holy book here]. The abrahamic god demonstrably does NOT love you just the way you are.
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If I died and stood in front of the christian god, I would say...hey dude...whaddup? He would say....sup....just chillin. then I go...cool...and be on my way. If, instead, he said... THOU HAS NOT WORSHIPED ME IN THE MANNER IN WHICH THE HOLY BIBLE INSTRUCTS...AND THOU HAS NOT BEEN BORN AGAIN IN BELIEF OF MY ONLY SON WHO HAS DIED FOR YOUR SINS, AND...blah blah blah...I would then go.....uh....right......I'm out,,,,later dude. THOU HAS OPPOSED ME AND WILL BE CAST INTO HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY. Cool....so you and your followers won't be there, right? NO, THEY WILL NOT. Cool. We're all good.
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what if a christian died and went to the atheist afterlife, in retrospect thinking they wasted their whole life on a fairy-tale. So many sundays they could have slept in or gone to the beach, park or so on. So much money they handed to their church when they could have handed it to hungry homeless people in the street instead. So much intolerance and bigotry they put on others unlike themselves.  At least you good christians should be relieved that billions are not being tortured or eternity.
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If I died and was surprised to find myself in an afterlife to be judged by a God that does indeed exist, I'd have thousands of questions for him/her, beginning with; Why did you make me an atheist? Why did you give me a rational mind, and surround me with perfectly plausible explanations for my existence in the natural world, accompanied by overwhelming supporting evidence, such that I was convinced that your existence seemed totally unnecessary? Why did you remain perfectly hidden my entire life, and never allowed me access to a single shred of objective evidence that you exist?   Why do you favor the most gullible, and easily fooled among us? Why do you need mere mortals to believe in you and continually praise you? ..etc .. etc.
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+Dan Moser okay I respect that.
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+Eli_Fai5 +Eli_Fai5 You're not making sense to me. If the Abrahamic god exists, i'm going to hell. The bible/Quran is quite clear on that, as i do not believe. Saying 'don't worry' is fine. I don't worry, because i don't believe. However, from your 'he loves you' comment, i take it that you do believe (i'm guessing in the christian god). If this is the case, please explain why you a: Believe. and b: think that i'm not going to hell, despite the bibles very clear explanations of what happens to gay atheists. or c: why you think i am going to hell, but shouldn't worry.
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FAITH IS AN EXPULSION OF CRITICAL THOUGHT.
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+Eli_Fai5​ You are factualy wrong. There are a plethora of gods. Each God only exists in the conscious of the mind. When we die...the God also dies in the soul of the mind.
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Jesus is the adult version of the omnipresent, omniscient Santa Claus.
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Fell asleep at 1:25  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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+Gerald Allen Maybe fumes from the leftover moonshine residue in your beard contributed to a general state of daily manifold weariness of a life so long you could grow a beard as large as your body, and lulled you gently into slumber? Just a thought.
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you are being too polite, if god of the bible do existed the first things a moral person must do is spit of his face and demand that he get down on his knee and beg reallllyyyy beg for my forgiveness and the forgiveness of all living things
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would if you are a christian and you have done every single thing you were supposed to according to christians and it turns out...the muslims were right?
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+Michael Dennis the bottom line is that religion is kind of silly when you think about it.
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I believe Im the God!!
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An eloquent answer to an all too common question... https://youtu.be/dqz0plz6DEs
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+Michael McElroy  LOL  That is so wrong and so funny! I see you got your license plate, you were SO happy! haha! Good for you. :)
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If I'm wrong, then I'll simply say "I'm Sorry."  If 'God' is really all that he is said to be, he'll understand and forgive me.  If he doesn't, then he's not 'God.'
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+Pete Mangum Yay good for you. You are awesome.
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I swear, this sole video made me de-convert from christianity, the hard logic and passion in this video is so strong. He isn't like other atheists who act supreme to theists and consider them to be idiots. This is how all atheists should act, calm and ready to have a conversation, actually being interested in what the person says.
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+peet vermeulen Goes in through one ear and exits through the other. So true yet again
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If God were real, he would be nothing more than a supervillain. His track record speaks for itself, God has murdered more people than he has ever even thought about saving.
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+cesare augustas I thought god was all powerful dont tell me this satan can beat god
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If there's one thing atheists are wrong about, it's religion. Whether or not you believe in God is irrelevant. But when it comes to the afterlife, justice, morality and forgiveness, you don't know what you're talking about.
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It's interesting how often people act like the only debate is between Christians and Atheists. Who's to say one of those ancient polytheistic religions isn't the right one? A lot of things in the bible are stranger than mythology. Just something to think about.
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+Azirahael "As to the other, if i understand you correctly, you hold the view that i have no empirical evidence to support the position, that withholding belief (until evidence is provided) is logical. Is that right?" There are two problems here. 1) You do not understand how devastating my point is to your overall position, because you do not understand logic.   2) You are unfairly insinuating that because I have rejected your illogical position, I am advocating its opposite. We'll deal with #1 first. Take a look at this sentence: "All generalizations are false". What is the problem? The problem is that the sentence itself is a generalization. The sentence itself is an example of the thing it is calling false. If the sentence is true, then the sentence is false. In logic, we call this a self-contradicting syllogism. If A=true then A= false.  Now, your atheist approach towards truth suffers from exactly the same logical problem:  "We should withhold belief in all claims that lack empirical evidence."  The problem is that this claim has no empirical evidence to back it up. Hence, it suffer from the same problem as the example above. If you claim it is true, it automatically becomes false. Point#2: "If we believe any claim without evidence, we are required to believe an infinite  number of things. Some of those things are going to be bad." Yes, but if we dogmatically reject or ignore all claims that lack empirical evidence, we end up ignoring an infinite number of vital questions that can easily be proven through logic alone. THIS is my point. I never said we should believe every claim that lacks empirical evidence. That is an illogical, extreme position. It's almost as illogical as saying that we should ignore every claim that lacks empirical evidence (your position). Your position is SO illogical it actually contradicts itself. "If we withhold belief until we have evidence, we can limit our beliefs to things which are congruent with reality." The problem <sigh> is that this position you've taken has no evidence to back it up. Hence, it is not congruent with reality. These are not my words, they are your words. This is just another self-contradicting statement. You're talking like a Christian or Muslim Fundamentalist. They also believe that their standard of truth (the Bible, the Koran) is congruent with reality. But this is just an erroneous (a priori) assumption. It's not backed by either logic or evidence. But your standard suffers from exactly the same problems.
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+Jack Ryan  Wow, food for thought. Doesn't change my mind in the least. I still see no proof.  You may understand your logic but it proves nothing to me. <sigh> Thanks for the info. hehe  
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@  bdwilson1000 -  I've listened to MANY HOURS of lecture and debate from intelligent atheists here on YouTube (Hitchens, Harris, Dawkins, Dillahunty, etc). I've also read hours worth of user comment threads from many of these videos. Nothing I have read/heard is anywhere near as smart, sincere, accurate and eloquent as this 7:44 response to the question, "What if you're wrong"? Simply awesome.
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I wish people would just stop fighting and love each other.
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You just got even more beautiful! I feel the same way!
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First of all God does not know you buddy.  Your lack of knowledge about God, the Bible and the Scriptures blinds you to make Foolish and Dumb statements based on ignorance.  God has recordkeepers in Heaven who keep records on every human being's life before their death.   Only those humans beings who have acknowledge the existence of God and his Son and have chosen to serve him in this life are knowned by God.   The Scriptures tells you this, "However at that time, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are no gods (In Your Case The Scientific Community).   But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again?"   As of today you are only know to the recordkeepers in Heaven, God isn't obligated to acknowledge your existence because your mother and father and other family members and friends do.  Praying to God will introduce you to Him and your existence, until then, you're just a human being on planet Earth. But all that is not necessary since you have already written your own irrelevancy.   GOD COULD CARELESS WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT HIM, HE DOESN'T NEED YOUR APPROVAL, YOU NEED HIS.
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+Chris Imo "Record keeper"? Where are you getting this crap from? The stuff from the Bible is bad enough, but now you're just making garbage up, seriously?
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Omnibenevolence is just some trait you made up for him with no evidence.
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+Deggsey Dinners no. omnibenevolence is a made up trait for a guy you made up. that is the topic. I shudder being an oasis fan knowing you're in the mix.
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+ConcreteComa I did not make the christian god up, and you know that. Myself and the guy in the video are both discussing the idea of the christian god. A hypothetical god. We do not have to believe something actually exists in order to have a discussion about it. If me and you were to talk about a standard superhero vs superhero battle - Batman versus Superman. Who do you think would win? In your eyes, you have to believe both Batman and Superman are real before you answer, just like if we were talking about god/Jesus. I do not know to what you are referring with the "Oasis" thing. I assume you're talking about the band...? Yeah they're okay. You kinda came out of nowhere with that one. No point of reference, y'know?
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Pascal's Wager. It never made any sense at all if taken in a polytheistic context. And we live in a world with hundreds of different religions, 99% of which honor many Gods and Goddesses. In other words: What if you die and find yourself confronted by the Great God Pan? Following a religion because you fear the deity it worships is the very worst reason of all.
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God loves you just the way you are!
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You lost me at 1:33... you're far too in love with your own verbosity. I see this was posted in 2011.... hopefully a few years of perspective have made you a little bit less slapable. *And no, nothing you said went over my head. Your pretentiousness just makes it impossible to take you seriously.
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If I die and there is God, well, I wouldn't give a shit. If anything, I would be waiting for an apology from him. Annnnd, If Jesus is the real deal, well, it's all good and here is why. According to your shady logic he will send me straight hell with all the spaghetti monsters and so therefore I will have no other choice but to join the devil so that we can take over the world!!!! Me likes!!! You see, there are no consequences because I'm already dead, gone, no existence!! Where else will I go if he decides to kill me more?? ?? Until Jesus & the Diablo destroys me I don't have anything to worry about. That works out great if you ask me!! Two assholes fighting like a bunch of rednecks is really not that impressive. See, there is no losing once you're dead!! You get to join either gang in fantasy world!! Woohooo! Mortal no matter what!! Lmao Religious people are just scared of death and therefore makeup any delusional idea to feel comfortable with. Just enjoy the only life you have because it will not get any better than this,.. I promise!!! - El Dio de todos. Me!
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What if you're wrong about vampires?? Why not wear garlic around your neck at all times.. just in case. That would be CRAZY huh?
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oh man,i rarely say this to anyone, i love your brain and your face, usualy is one or the other :)
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the threat of torture is your incentive to believe in a sadistic asshole?
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Looking through the comments, the number of people who watch this (or maybe they don't...they just read the title) and assume that this guy is a Christian is bloody hilarious. It's actually a well-constructed dismantling of Pascal's Wager.
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I can deal with the risk to be wrong. As a matter f fact, living is taking risks, isn't it?
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Its called faith.
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+Eli_Fai5 That is good to be good. but humans are evil at there core.
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The concept that is being denied here is freewill and choice. The argument is basically this, "God should know that I denied him because of environmental factors, therefore he should not condemn me." This is only partially true. Part of it was environmental factors (chain of events), but part of it was also your own choice.
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+mike perkins String theory seems rather wild and has no empirical evidence to back it up. Yet, scientists still assert it as a serious possibility.
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+Jack Ryan​ So true...along with multiverses, the 12th dimension,spooky science, etc...etc... A possibility... it's fun to play around with possibilities. But don't play with Jesus. Oh no...
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It's stupid because There're too many religions. if make a religion it means a can make another heaven to believe.
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Well Tom jerkoff if I stand in front of God I'd say" sup how about some poker?"
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Why the fuck is this even a argument, there is hundreds of religions with hundreds of hell's and heavens Islam, Scientology, Bodissima, ect
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Your died Right THE END !!!!!  you talk to NO ONE, you are dead, no brain function, cold Dead, I haven`t read the Bible (Never Will) but doing research on youtube I have heard you can have slaves you can beat said slave as long as he doesnt die within three days, you must love me above all (that`s your children EVERYTHING) or no heaven for you!! this is an old old Book now full of fairy tails to try keep people in line we now have laws to uphold and are in no need of such a thing.
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+Zatoichi Theoutlaw You haven't read the bible? Try a few chapters. It's fucking hilariously silly. Then, when you're finished laughing, spare a thought for the poor saps that actually believe that nonsense and decicate their whole lives to it.
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If I died and I found a God who existed I'm sure that he would judge my character and not that I believed something that is clearly hard to Believe.i take it up the ass like a pig oink oink
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Once a person accepts Jesus Christ as Lord, He has no reason or desire to murder ,rape or molest, so you just answered your own question of why you would burn in hell, because you Judge people wrongly as your lame excuse and don't Judge yourself, Why wouldn't that kind of attitude burn in Hell?
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+DEROY CREWS If you don't want to 'waste time' why post? and you've just said i'm a liar. Great. Why? and, you've just told an atheist, what atheism is. Are you not seeing a problem here? and you've also conflated evolution with atheism, and promoted both of them to the status of a world view, or possibly doctrine. What is Atheism? It’s not a religion, it’s not a doctrine, or dogma, it’s not a world view. It’s a stance on one specific claim. Theists claim ‘There is a god.’ Anyone who says ‘I’m not convinced.’ Is an atheist. That’s it. As to the rest, it looks a lot like you are trying very hard to make yourself the underdog, or a martyr for a cause. I'd steer clear of that if i were you.
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And i noticed something about your original post: "Once a person accepts Jesus Christ as Lord, He has no reason or desire to murder ,rape or molest," Uh, nope. The evidence is against you on that one.  The bulk of rapists, murderers and molesters are religious. In the west, christian. Don't take my word for it, look it up. There is a very strong correlation.
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dude you put a lot of thought in this and had great answers
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What if your wrong? starts video "say I die one day and nothing happens" WELL GET READY FOR IT... -some random 11 year old
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Your very starting point comes from an argumentative fallacie, it´s an appeal to ignorance (argumentum ex silentio) appealing to ignorance as evidence for something. (e.g., We have no evidence that God doesn't exist, therefore, he must exist. Or: Because we have no knowledge of alien visitors, that means they do not exist). Ignorance about something says nothing about its existence or non-existence. Why not to go further? Why if both Atheist, Christinas, Buddist, whatever - everyone is wrong and there is something else at death, something that no one has ever conceived at all; I don´t say that I think that I know, it´s that I know with absolute certainty that I don´t and nobody knows, because no body can know. My friend, if we had the certainty that we live forever, the life in itself would not have misteries, and you would not be alive at all... why to fight and discuss for something that the people has fight about from hundreds of years? What happens if the most beautiful act that we can do to stop wars is to stop discussing and fighting and we just focus on the wonder that is life?
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+gabriel aceves Did you even watch the full video, or just spit out a diatribe about the first small part? The guy in the video is replying to a question asked. That is why this video exists. It is not a "belief vs non-belief" video.
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boy if listen to yourself you'd know believing in god isn't just a intelligence debate. so no sometime if u do not know ask god. oh and about hell god sent the good book to help u avoid it it's no his will for u to be there. so honestly u are a smart man with no heart for god so u and your knowledge will be limited. y wait to die to know that god love u or that god cares. so smart guy UNDERSTAND THIS GOD LOVE PEOPLE, PEOPLE HURT PEOPLE. weather u believe god is at fault for human will is your affair but know that if u die and as u say went to hell for your lack of understand god and your blackheart that is truly on u. don't say god is evil or wrong or even u "feel sick to your stomach " god love u and me. oh and just cause other open their eyes in time and u can't isn't a god issue. boy the answer over y u can't believe is that u stand in your own way u are hurting your self god didn't push u or hurt u , u did.
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Wait, what if your wrong? What if Hindu is correct? Islam? Greek polytheism?
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Thought you where going to say welcome to the twilight zone😀. You sound like the guy who used to say that
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if god exist, i would happily go to hell. id rather spend time with the devil even if it means being tortured. i stood up for myself and my beliefs and if thats a sin then so be it.
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You sir, are a very attractive man. Also, good video :)
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If you're an atheist and you're wrong we just accept it
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ok ,lets say u r right and there is a god ,what is , when its not YOUR god ? because i know u think u r right because its written in the bible , but other religions had better evidence ,like the old eghypts or the romans , they had pictures and storys about their gods which are a lot older when the bible and they built things like tempels for them which arent ruined yet while u have to renovate ur churches the whole time . wouldnt it be more logical to believe in their gods because they would be obviously stronger whn ur god?
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Yer the god of the bible is clearly evil and a complete nut case.
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You gotta love the typical pick and choosy bible the atheists go by, where do I get one of these with all the love thy neighbor shit taken out? LMAO...Fuckin newbs
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+XxDtownxX"Insulting, the weapon of choice for the inferior." Lying and hypocrisy, the weapons of choice for the religious. 
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I have two sons. One is a believer and one is an atheist. With the first, the door is always open. With the second one, the door is no longer shut.
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+Bill Sterling Terrible metaphor, try again.
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We're not. Nothing to worry about. God is an impossible paradox that is irrelevant and superfluous to empirical reality.  https://www.facebook.com/AtheistIntelligence/photos/a.568061173213439.1073741828.568007929885430/1014079588611593
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boy if listen to yourself you'd know believing in god isn't just a intelligence debate. so no sometime if u do not know ask god. oh and about hell god sent the good book to help u avoid it it's no his will for u to be there. so honestly u are a smart man with no heart for god so u and your knowledge will be limited. y wait to die to know that god love u or that god cares. so smart guy UNDERSTAND THIS GOD LOVE PEOPLE, PEOPLE HURT PEOPLE. weather u believe god is at fault for human will is your affair but know that if u die and as u say went to hell for your lack of understand god and your blackheart that is truly on u. don't say god is evil or wrong or even u "feel sick to your stomach " god love u and me. oh and just cause other open their eyes in time and u can't isn't a god issue. boy the answer over y u can't believe is that u stand in your own way u are hurting your self god didn't push u or hurt u , u did.
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all the christians in the world say "well what if your wrong huh" what if your wrong. The only reason you believe in christianity is because your parents and grandparents do. IF you grew up in ancient greece or rome you most likely wouldn't believe in christ. Also if you were born in india or the middle east. Christianity is one of 1 million religions so the odds are you are wrong so what will you do when you stand before the hindu gods huh what will you say?
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Excuses much? Chill out dude
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Dude, we're not atheists because we fear punishment, life is already hell. We're atheists because the idea of God, especially Jesus, is crazy as fuck. How do YOU believe that shit?
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If I died now and found myself standing in front of God. I would ask him "take you long enough", you have all my life time to make me belief you real and you failed. Not just that, why take so much pain to conceal yourself? What if you are wrong, Christians. You live all your life through lies, chained by an invisible God, and looking forward to the invisible pie in the sky. Free yourself and live your life to the fullest and not be subjugated by imaginary ethereal dictatorship.
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Wow such well put words that has totally been well orchestrated, but the thing that I observed of this brilliant profession that it was all based on him as if he is the alpha and the omega. To truly deny any existence of god is to say you truly know the beginning of man's existence. It seems as if there is a god he wouldn't need him anyway. For he states I would have no problem following his rules. It sounds to me he would follow the rules of anything that can prove to be divine even his own creativity. Who are we to say who god can forgive. The creator of the molecules that makes our existence. Maybe you haven't found enough evidence to believe in god. Maybe you're not a good investigator. But at your ending words of your self proclaimed righteousness, you stated you weren't wrong. Let's entertain that thought. If there is no god and we merely to back into nothing then you have the same conviction that of rapists, murderers and so on. Non existent. Isn't the world today made up in loss and gain? We work to gain and we morn our losses. Just maybe God does see all and is able to see more than mere man can envision. Can you imagine knowing all, observing all? Can you imagine knowing half of every man's heart? Maybe he can forgive the rapist the way some of the victim find it in there hearts to forgive. Hmmmm, imagine that. Or let's continue to believe in the hypothesis of somehow out of chaos formed a divine creation of life. Funny part of it, at the end of all time on earth. When judgment day comes, he will say you were wrong, but in any of your beliefs you can't tell anyone you were right.
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If I found myself in front of Jesus I'd circle him a little, looking him up and down and then I would say, "Now Let's you just drop them pants. Just take 'em right off. Boy you look just like a hog. I bet you can squeal for me piggy piggy." Then I'd bend him right over and pound that gay ass till it bled. Then ny friend would say, "Did he bleed?" He bled. And now he's dead. I guess that makes me king of the world.
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+Van Smack One of the most memorable scenes inmovie history. That's the price of fame I suppose. I'm sure all the smash hits he did after that made up for it. Oh wait...
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+Deggsey Dinners when Ned Beatty played Dean Martin going back to school that was good
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Okey so this may sound fair and reasonable to you now, in our limited minds that can't fully understand it all. But isn't it a little sad to rather spend an eternity in Hell in the absence of love and goodness, just because you don't completely understand the nature of this "being" right now in this life? You'd seriously justify an eternity in the absence of all goodness, life and love, because you don't fully understand Him in this short period of time on earth? And also, in the end you're saying "Good thing I'm not wrong!" - how could you possibly know? Have you died already? Do you really think all the NDE's people have had is somehow fake? I mean, even people who have been braindead and still experience intense stuff? Studies have also shown that the human body looses some weight at the moment of death. Same studies done on dogs didn't show weight loss at all.. Think twice dude, think twice.
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+The Reasonable Christian It is not the fault of us, the creation, for disbelief. It is god. If he wanted us to believe, not believe, not hear the word of god then it will be so. God is omniscient and knows the outcome of everything, and designed it as such using his omnipotent creation powers. We have 0 power to disobey such a god. What we are discussing here is the punishment/reward system which is apparently inplace after we die. God knows the outcome of everything that will ever happen, yet he sends some to the worst punishment imaginable for being ignorant of Jesus, and others to the best reward possible for blind faith, regardless of good deeds. Creating hell is not the act of a loving god; this is what an evil being would do. Not only that, but since god knows the outcome of our lives and why we do what we do, he punishes us for being how he made us. It is preposterous to the extreme.
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This is so easy. If you are a person of Faith, you are WRONG.
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I believe in zeus, he apparently had far more face time with humans than any modern god(s) from current religions, therefore he's the one true god.  If history is as consistent as the a math equation, a couple hundred years from now, christ, allah, and yahew will be studied in future mythology classes.
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Well im an an atheist and if im wrong then... tough shit, im in hell bein torcherd by mr.satan and ur GOD! Is sittin on his cloud screwing that 14 year old palestinian girl who had a magic baby. But i acknowledge that i might be wrong sometimes, but im not scared, i will just be another shining example of how evil your god is, he gave us free will, i think hes a pompous moron for blaming us for his stupidity, if he exists. "Fear not hell, for if it exists, you shall find yourself in good company." - an awesome atheist
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Faith - belief in something that you cannot see....well let's see, air, gravity, death, time, germs, your mind, Sunday Monday Tuesday...., so to laugh at a Christian for a God they say doesn’t exist, but believe in everything I just listed yet no one can see any of them is hypocritical. From a biblical stance, religion is any belief that denounces Jesus Christ. Jesus is the only way to God. So for to mock religion you’re also mocking yourself because atheism is a religion along with buddhism, muslim, confuciusism, hinduism, satanism, voodoo, witchcraft, sikh, and anything else there is. The same people who laugh at Christians for believing in God, never even praised to God. After all the miracles I've seen in my life, even heard the voice of God, seen visions that came true, I would be a fool to stop believing in God. I have prayed and heard God answer prayer. You ask, how can you believe in a God you cannot see? Simple, cuz God answered my prayers time and time again. I don't see how anyone can not believe in God after all the things I've witnessed in my short life.
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Love how you ended it with, "Good thing I'm not wrong." But really, are you Gnostic Atheist? I'm agnostic.
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Yes if i God exists then your right . If not then you have belived some bullshit and prayed it. You have belived something which was wriitten by old man back in the days. You Spend all you live for someones opinion. So you lost your mind and at the end if it could prove that there is no god then you will colaps and hang yourself , or you still believe because stopping beliving makes no sense anymore.
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Romans 1 20 - 22 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened Professing to be wise, they became fools"    His creation is evident in all things and yet men do not believe. Look at the human genome and tell me their is no design in it but rather one big accident. Now that's a pretty small branch to be standing on. Look at the evidence and use your own objective reasoning.   God bless
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Yea, he sure loves the children getting raped doesen't he, he just watches with the power but not will to stop it. Nice god you got there..
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Well it makes sense a heaven and hell could exist, our reality entails work and reward. Punishment is part of our reality. There could be different levels of punishment in Hell. Denying God is like self desecration, dismissing one's self off as merely chemicals is self desecration. A Hell can exist because punishment matters, a person was given life and freewill and they did evil. You might as well tell God you should not make creations, stay creation-less in space. Tell God your creation is not okay by your standards and not normal, you dictate what kind of life experience would be normal. You dictate projects of creation and what is right and wrong. How would you created individualism and freewill, would you enable everyone to be able to perform magic?
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+BruceIsSoCool I'm frankly lost for words.....If you understood what omnibenevolence means, you wouldn't have written what you did.
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How Atheism developed: Where's all the KKK atheists?!!! Yyyeeeeee hawwwww mother fxckerz!!! that there God sho ain't been talked bout fo a while... down herr in the south we gets jiggy with religion.. now we ain't got no church to go to cuz we's burned it down!! Better claim to be atheists or we's have to pay damage costs!
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omnibenevolent? Tsunami's? Earthquakes? Infant cancer? Inquisition? Hundreds of thousands of slowly killing poisonous plants and fungi?
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but you are wrong because all Christians are born as unbelievers and we all came to the same conclusion, the problem with this guy is that he is convinced that he knows that he is not wrong. Our God is a gentleman and He will not force you into His Eternal Presence against your will, He Loves you too much to do that. Evil people can not understand Good God so there are no contradictions for the people who have God The Holy Spirit in them, because only He can tell you what it all means in Bible that He has inspired.
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+Geliefde Liefde That is not a good reason to care more, you're just trying to use anything as ammo to make your point sound better. Anyway, I'm gone.
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While hearing his bladibla  when you turn the volume really loud you'll hear: help im a guy with my head stuck up jezus' ass!! please help me out.
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bla bla bla. you talk shit man. pull yer head out of yer arse and do something usefull with it this time. thanks.
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This is exactly the argument that made me rethink Christianity (after my second full reading of the Bible).  Taken one step further - this is God's failure.  Even if you believe the Bible, there are false steps and errors in the reformation, so either his plan was faulty all along, or he is impotent and inept compared to his rival. OR... he simply doesn't care or doesn't exist, with equal effect on me as an individual. I could worship and support a God that doesn't care, to no avail. I could worship and support a God that doesn't exist, to no avail. I could also worship and support a God that does exist, but with so many variations to choose from, there is no point in going with any particular one at random until they step forward from the group with sufficient evidence to prove that it's the rational thing to do.  He is capable of doing that, right?!?
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+Doug Bliss To be more precise - it wasn't the flaw in your behavior or thoughts that led to the wrong conclusion. It was a flaw in his plan to bring you to the right conclusion - or just part of his plan in the first place, in which case, his favoritism isn't deserving of much praise.
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What if you're wrong and I'm right you go to hell What if I'm wrong and you're right nothing happens Oh well you're taking big risks bud😐
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+Michael Dennis I'm trying to help you out.  Once a Youtube comment is at least 3-4 weeks old, don't reply to that comment. You may reply to a comment or other comments in a thread as long as the latest comment in a discussion isn't 3-4 weeks old. Basically, if I post a comment and then 2 months later some random person comments, it's stupid. 2 months later, I probably don't care about the video I was watching anymore.
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Unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Rapists and murderers will have sinned, as rebirth is a gift and after its recieving one mustn't sin unless they are to throw away that gift. Do your fair bit of research.
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+NotAkira Sin is real. Sin is abunant. The Lord's word is coming true every day. The more you sin, the more dragged down you are. Sin is real. When you focus on it, you WILL feel it's force and it IS darkness spreading and dwelling inside you. I've had enough experience to KNOW it is real.
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The video begins by creating a supposition of facing the Christian God. What if what you are facing is, in fact, an Islamic God instead? Or any other God? You will face a Christian God because you happen to have born to a culture with people who share the same idea of God? Or is it because you think the same way as the Bible teaches you will face the Christian God? How do we face different Gods? Will free thinkers face multiple Gods when they die?
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What if you die and your face to face with horus or Thor what would you do!
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How to know which god is right' There are many immaginations of god: the India god Brahma. The greek god of Zeus. The ancient egiptian god of Ra. The hebrev gods of Jahve and El. Muslim god Allah. Many other gods. Why just only one particular should be right? Where is the evidence of it?
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I wanted to make a statement to search for God. Because these people are attacking his character by stating ad hominems doesn't prove that their arguments are right. What is the contradictions that are in the Bible you are trying to state?
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Yes I have evidence which can be faith because faith does not have to be blind faith.
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He wouldn't be offended by you, he would be sad that you never loved him. Also, Hell isn't a means to revenge, it's a place of punishment. The reason rapist who are converted Christians are accepted into heaven is because Jesus wiped away every sin they ever committed, and they are now a new person. That's the constructive thing you're looking for. Hell is there for people who do not accept God's free gift of salvation, and are therefore not free of their sins. People such as yourself who believe that God should let them into heaven because of your good deeds are wrong. You don't understand that God is so holy, nothing you can do can be as holy as he is. They only way you can partake in his holiness is to let him make you a new creation, an image of himself. All God sees when he sees a genuine Christian is his own holiness.
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+Scienzoflyfe I'm very interested in your religion. I might even consider joining it, but first please tell me the 5 arguments :)
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I'd say kiss my ass U unbelievable piece of shit Yeah I wouldn't gaf
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I think you got something wrong here , i am one the same side here. Even if god existed and i would stand before him , i would still tell him to fuck off ! God should be executed on the spot for crimes against humanity !
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IF atheist was wrong?that is proof god is not an SAVIOR.
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There are two types of Atheists in the world:  #1 One that actually WANTS to know and seek the truth in their heart, but just can't seem to get the God concept to click in their brain for some odd reason. #2 The atheist that just doesn't give a fxck.. will disrespectfully call your God a sky fairy, a freak, a religion hater, a religion bigot, a rude, insulting, obsessed with Christians psychopath. I feel that if Atheist #1 sees God in the end, God will give them eternal life, because of their pure, earnest heart that truly wanted to know and seek the truth. But #2, I feel will just be sent down to the lake of fire for being such an arrogant d!ck all of their life....
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+Deggsey Dinners When did I ever? lol or is that just another symptom of your DELUSIONAL Atheistic indisposition? Or paranoid schizophrenia? You are imagining things again... 10:43 pm (eastern time), time for your meds! You are late! Better be on time. Next time, remember, it's 10:00 pm SHARP!
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+awesome amie So what are you even arguing about or for? Fucking worthless troll.
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If Kryptonite exist? lol If Santa Claus exist? lol If really are 72 virgins in the afterlife waiting for you? lol Why don´t you make the experience of going faster to the beyond, to see what is the reality there? Then sends a telepathic message. lol
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If you want to know what it will be like look on the judgement day then look to the Bible, not your own (or mine) deluded human mind. In the beginning of the video he said (standing in front of the Christian God) , the Christian God has given us all the information we need regarding this, and it's in the Bible. Your first mistake is trying to figure got out using human logic because that won't work in when you're in front of your Creator.
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+TheLove4Christ Why would be not use the brains god apparently gave us? And our minds/selves are influenced to do so by the very environment that god created for us. We are as we are made to be by god, and he knows this because he is omniscient. He knows what we will do before we do it, because of his omniscience, and if he was not omniscient, he would know the outcome of our decisions and lives because he is also said to be omnipotent. An omnipotent creator would know how every facet of his creation would act, even down to the molecular level. As mentioned in the video, if hell was created by god for humans, then the christian god's vanity overrides his love for his creation, and god is apparently displeased with the lack of worship provided by non-believers and so sends them to burn for all time. This outcome is acceptable, by god's standards. But not by human definitions of love and justice that were provided by god himself when he was creating us. You cannot call god a loving god if hell exists, and the only reason to worship such a being would be for fearful reasons so as not to be punished.
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If you were to mark ten coins from one to ten, place them in your pocket, shake them around, and then pull each coin out and put it back in your pocket, what is the likelihood you could do so in exact numerical sequence? By mathematical law you have only one chance in ten billion of taking them out in order from one to ten. Now consider the chances of a stomach, brain, heart, lungs, arteries, veins, kidneys, ears, eyes, and teeth all developing together and beginning to function at the same moment in time. What is the most reasonable explanation for the design of the human body?
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+black cat By that logic, all of the 7000 gods/goddesses exists. Do you believe in all of them or are you 99,99% atheist when only believing in one of them? And every religion "KNOWS" that their god is the one and only true god, just like you do. What makes your god better than theirs!? Your god forces us to worship him. If we dont, we will burn forever in hell.  Free will my ass! That is blackmail... You religious freaks has wrongly predicted the judgement day for about 200 years lol. Three times already after year 2000. I`ve heard next time is september 23.  Well, someone earns alot of money selling books or after rapture petcare :) http://www.aftertherapturepetcare.com/ You only make yourself look like fools.
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"What if you're wrong?" Me: Well, you're shit outta luck. (Keep in mind this next statement is using quotation marks as expresstions) Look I'm an open Atheist and "if" I was "wrong" and I was infront of the all so powerfull deity I would look at him/her and say. (In a laughing manner) Well I guys I was wrong from the beggining. Have a laugh and be like... Okay. Send me off to hell. (Speculation portion) God would ask You don't want to repent and... I don't know... Have a free pass into heaven? I would say No, Cause I had time to make my mind. And I failed. I still fully do not agree of which was written in a book you agreed and accepted over the years as "Your book" but I see now I was wrong of your existance. But none the less you still killed countless people let countless people die MIGHT I add you let even "heavenly hearted" people die brutal painful deaths. And then I fall into hell.
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There is no god for Christians, neither Jewish nor Muslims. There is only One God for all humanity. The mind is like a parachute, it works well when its open. Nothing to lose, Try,to read the Koran.
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why silly, ? everything has to be read, the Koran is no exception. read.
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+flying Incorrect, nothing has be read. It is not the goal of mankind to read as many books as possible before they die. There are people that have never even seen or read a book. Perhaps you mean to say "everything can be read. It was silly because in your first sentence you claim that there are no muslims, christians, etc, but then in the second sentence you recommend the Koran, which means that you are probably more muslim than anything else. It's like saying "coca-cola, Pepsi, and all sodas are all the same. But drink Pepsi."
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"Christians...what if your wrong??" "Muslims...what if your wrong??" "Xbox fans...what if your wrong??" "pewdipie...what if your gay??"
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Everything you said was based off of nothing, but everything around you. Everything around you, everything you know. But if what you based off of your conclusion was everything, then what did everything come from? Nothing, so therefore would it not be logical to assume you would prefer nothing. I suppose all that is in store for you is nothing. I suppose compassion that makes you sick to your stomach is everything.
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Are you for real ?? Shitttttt !!!!
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wow... this goes deep and im glad i clicked of the vid
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