Suffering... it's virtually real!

We're already in the matrix. We will never be out of the matrix. In fact, we are the matrix.

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• reality

[jer414]

I really don't know why your advancing this matrix idea (traditional matrix idea). You seem to just assume it's true and yet have no reason for thinking it is in fact true. Why shouldn't we believe that science can "map the world out" of what is and what is not? I don't think we can control it but we can understand that it tells us truth. Perhaps your "matrix" is more sophisticated then I see it. I'm familar with Putnam's "Brain in a vat" and it's in that context when I refer to the matrix.

[redliterocket4]

The reasons I have are epistemological, which means that I am questioning what the activity of scientific investigation really amounts to. It seems as though the history of science is a continual shifting through conceptual paradigms confirmed based on observation. In other words, one appearance replaces another more experimentally robust appearance, but never do we arrive at the final true description of what is going on.

[sfralinger]

you missed his point...sure he read Alan Watts...now he is expounding on the idea and explaining (using language to communicate and get feedback) this has nothing to do with his ego

didn't he say that we don't really understand what we, ourselves, are thinking until we explain it to another "brain" ?

[worldtocandice]

You stated that with out the world there could not be an observer? Flip that with out an observer can there be a world? You say the world had to exist! But if there was no conscious mind in the universe to be aware of it do you think it would still exist? Or is it like nothingness?

[jamjargunning]

I might be one of a kind but I used to think without inner speech. I agree that alot of the time interacting with other people will more fully develop your thoughts more, but thoughts are not dependent on language.

[CaptnCooter]

You need not (and can not) isolate "the magical consciousness".

"From my point of view, the world - of being in the world but not of the world - the world is a series of experiences that are given to me in order to awaken out of the illusion of my own separateness" - Ram Dass

[CaptnCooter]

"Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes" - Carl Gustav Jung !!

[Markle6]

The bottom line is .... no one REALLY cares about you ... not the gov't or the media ... so, If you are not for you, then who is for you? Forget them ... Bail yourself out !!! They will not do it for you, they want to push you down ... stop your suffering !!! Read "Bail Yourself Out" by Michael Laitman PhD (seriously ... a gift from me to you !)

[parsleysprigs]

@worldtocandice I think that is what true death is like, and we humans are sending the world in that direction. Even if your physically dead the world is capable of holding electrons which I believe is the worlds conscience, If your brain is splattered your electrons will be dispersed. Will you be able to think thoughts or will all thoughts cease until those molecules reform into a new organism. I think I will die thousands of times over before the damage that is done will be fixed.

[parsleysprigs]

People are so lost in the virtual self because they are all trying hopelessly to figure out the meaning of life, Its very ironic your talking about the virtual self taking on a second life on a video that exist only in a digital world. It's purely electromagnetic signals just like brain waves, I grow furious thinking about how much suffering is being caused because people believe the economy is bad. It too exists only in a virtual world, suffering is virtual because of fear.

[parsleysprigs]

I watched that documentary about water and how it holds emotion and memory which was proven through flash freezing and studying the molecular structure on a microscopic level. I've been thinking alot about the oil spill and how much people ignore the presence of water even though it's in they're presence for the duration of they're life and even death. It holds memory and emotion not because it's conscience but because nature balances things out through symmetry. A new begging is on the way.

[holyjesus]

We could have a consciousness if we were kept as a lab animal with no stimuli. We have a reality with enormous variety, but we each have different amounts of stimulation. The mind exists regardless of whether we have things to do.