Where do you get your morals?

How moral is Christianity? And does anyone derive his or her morals from it?

In order of appearance:

philos71 (5 Questions Every Intelligent Atheist Must Answer)

Professor Richard Dawkins (Dawkins in Lynchburg VA part 1 The God Delusion)

Tracie Harris (Atheist Experience #579 Live Calls)

Sam Harris (Sam Harris: The Link Between Religion And Morality)

President Barack Obama (Barack Obama Versus Religion)

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• thelogicaltheist

[heinno777]

A lot of big words for Dawkins. He feel so strongly about this, one would swear he beliefs there is a God. (Maybe his got a little secret). I guess if your mind works like his, it is okay to attack things you do not belief in. I guess he always wanted to beat up his imaginary friends when they stole his moms cookies - even though he knew they where not there.

[TheLogicalTheist]

@heinno777 You seem to take issue with Professor Dawkins on a personal level. Was the God Delusion an emotionally difficult book to read for you?

[heinno777]

@heinno777 I have not read the God Delusion - the reviews was too poor - calling it an rhetorical hypothesis, unsophisicated and really an embarrassment to a very smart man.

[TheLogicalTheist]

@heinno777 are you a Troll?

[sweetnluvly07]

God have mercy on Richard Dawkins

[TheLogicalTheist]

@sweetnluvly07 What you communicate is of little value unless the premise it necessarily relies on as a corollary is valid. In other words, one must first assume that a god exists before the ironic circumstance of a believer calling on this god to supply "mercy" to an atheist can be considered beyond what it is merely fanciful. It is therefore weak, due to the fact that its foundation is weak. You dont come off as clever. And that, I assure you, is putting it lightly.

[Ramshobraja]

It seems Obama is a bible skeptic...awesome. Too bad he is silenced by or overly religious society.

[McWalker25]

he calls himself the 'logicaltheist' because youtube didn't grant him anymore room to put the "a" between the L and T.

[belladonna4577]

0:10-0:42- i couldn't have put it better myself. 

[ev11]

i get my morals from everyday life.

[DougDiug]

May God have mercy on himself.

[heinno777]

@mfunke ....yes, by the morals bestowed on us. It is irrelevant to God though.

[mfunke]

@heinno777

Then you can add hypocrite to his list of "qualities".

[heinno777]

@mfunke "Does it basically boil down to "Do as I say, not as I do"? ... like any good Dad

[mfunke]

@heinno777

Which is EXACTLY what Dawkins is saying, though he means it another way. God, by our moral standards, is EVIL. If he was real, our morality wouldn't come from him. It could, to be fair, be dictated by him, but would anything god tells us be automatically moral? Is morality just god's subjective view?

Does it basically boil down to "Do as I say, not as I do"?

[heinno777]

@mfunke - I do not agree, you cannot write something unknowingly - you need to know what and why you are writing something - To me the Bible is very much structured and formulated with the idea to "create" a god. Remember the Christian religion and thinking is build on the teachings of the Bible. Like it or not, God's character is not bound by the laws or morals HE created for us - HE has no one to answer to - he does not have to be good (judged by our morals) to be God.

[mfunke]

@heinno777

First, they wouldn't knowingly create a god, but attribute human qualities to phenomena they didn't understand. And the growth of myth. Ultimately, you'd create a "bad" god because there is something called moral development, that morality evolves with time. The god they created was not bad according to the people from the time it was created. It was the best god they could come up with. But for us, who have a more developed moral standard, he looks like a capricious malevolent god.