@MERVILLE3 [4] karate – well, "real" karate, to be honest as there is no way back – did and does come from the western world by people who actually are unsatiesfied with sportskarate.
@MERVILLE3 [3] "... it allowed it to become that much closer to a sport rather than a martial art." – Also: There is no "pure" karate anymore. Not even in Okinawa. It was a dying art before it was made public and it is all tainted by japanese school karate. Actually all so-called "Okinawa karate" ryus started after its introduction in okinawan schools and don't seem to have much in common with the pre-Meiji karate. It's interesting that many impulses on getting back to the real...
@MERVILLE3 [3] "... it allowed it to become that much closer to a sport rather than a martial art." – Also: There is no "pure" karate anymore. Not even in Okinawa. It was a dying art before it was made public and it is all tainted by japanese school karate. Actually all so-called "Okinawa karate" ryus started after its introduction in okinawan schools and don't seem to have much in common with the pre-Meiji karate. It's interesting that many impulses on getting back to the real...
@MERVILLE3 [3] "... it allowed it to become that much closer to a sport rather than a martial art." – Also: There is no "pure" karate anymore. Not even in Okinawa. It was a dying art before it was made public and it is all tainted by japanese school karate. Actually all so-called "Okinawa karate" ryus started after its introduction in okinawan schools and don't seem to have much in common with the pre-Meiji karate. It's interesting that many impulses on getting back to the real...
@MERVILLE3 [2] in his book Tôdi Jutsu where he discusses his vision of karate and comparing it to kendô: "Likewise, in times past swordmanship was taught only through kata since a shiai, whether using real swords or wooden swords, was always fought at the risk of one's life. Subsequently, today's face masks and wrist guards were developed, and although this brought about a certain amount of degradation of kendo, ..."
@MERVILLE3 You are actually missing the facts: In Funakoshi's time karate was already a dying art. You can read this out of his poem when he travelled to Japan, but you can also take Chojun Miyagi's words. Funakoshi and others put much effort in saving the art, make it public and make a happy buck with it. But: Funakoshi considered karate too dangerous, so he always wanted to turn a fighting art more into some kind of sport or better a workout. He actually implies it in a passage...
@metalkraven If you believe this is not a sport, implying that this is karate, a martial art, it is YOU that is missing the point and will continue to do so until you become aware of the historical facts.
I can't do without this video. I simply love it! I watch it 5 times a day or more... Osu!
needed92 1 week ago
@MERVILLE3 [4] karate – well, "real" karate, to be honest as there is no way back – did and does come from the western world by people who actually are unsatiesfied with sportskarate.
eisbombenhagel 2 weeks ago
@MERVILLE3 [3] "... it allowed it to become that much closer to a sport rather than a martial art." – Also: There is no "pure" karate anymore. Not even in Okinawa. It was a dying art before it was made public and it is all tainted by japanese school karate. Actually all so-called "Okinawa karate" ryus started after its introduction in okinawan schools and don't seem to have much in common with the pre-Meiji karate. It's interesting that many impulses on getting back to the real...
eisbombenhagel 2 weeks ago
@MERVILLE3 [3] "... it allowed it to become that much closer to a sport rather than a martial art." – Also: There is no "pure" karate anymore. Not even in Okinawa. It was a dying art before it was made public and it is all tainted by japanese school karate. Actually all so-called "Okinawa karate" ryus started after its introduction in okinawan schools and don't seem to have much in common with the pre-Meiji karate. It's interesting that many impulses on getting back to the real...
eisbombenhagel 2 weeks ago
@MERVILLE3 [3] "... it allowed it to become that much closer to a sport rather than a martial art." – Also: There is no "pure" karate anymore. Not even in Okinawa. It was a dying art before it was made public and it is all tainted by japanese school karate. Actually all so-called "Okinawa karate" ryus started after its introduction in okinawan schools and don't seem to have much in common with the pre-Meiji karate. It's interesting that many impulses on getting back to the real...
eisbombenhagel 2 weeks ago
@MERVILLE3 [2] in his book Tôdi Jutsu where he discusses his vision of karate and comparing it to kendô: "Likewise, in times past swordmanship was taught only through kata since a shiai, whether using real swords or wooden swords, was always fought at the risk of one's life. Subsequently, today's face masks and wrist guards were developed, and although this brought about a certain amount of degradation of kendo, ..."
eisbombenhagel 2 weeks ago
@MERVILLE3 You are actually missing the facts: In Funakoshi's time karate was already a dying art. You can read this out of his poem when he travelled to Japan, but you can also take Chojun Miyagi's words. Funakoshi and others put much effort in saving the art, make it public and make a happy buck with it. But: Funakoshi considered karate too dangerous, so he always wanted to turn a fighting art more into some kind of sport or better a workout. He actually implies it in a passage...
eisbombenhagel 2 weeks ago
@yuri3979 Pai não, mas provavelmente bistiavô. A sério! ;)
eisbombenhagel 2 weeks ago
Ele é o pai da rie funakoshi mais conhecida como rie fu ;)
yuri3979 2 weeks ago
@metalkraven If you believe this is not a sport, implying that this is karate, a martial art, it is YOU that is missing the point and will continue to do so until you become aware of the historical facts.
IEKUKATAKA 1 month ago