When Did it Become 'Salvation By Faith, Through Grace'?

When Did "Salvation by grace through faith..." (Eph. 2:9) become, "Salvation by faith through grace..." Well, the politically incorrect and true answer is that it never did. People that declare the opposite of what the Apostle Paul taught are numerous, but just as the amount of people who attend a particular place of "worship" doesn't validate the premise behind the way of thinking that the "Sensitive-to-Please-Unbelief" Movement holds to be true, the fact that there's a large amount of people who hold to the antithesis of what Paul taught doesn't make it correct either. Mark Kielar explains more thoroughly in this video.



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(From the series "How God Converts the Human Soul")

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[Isaiah1v18]

@JackMWolfe "When did it SALVATION become Faith through Grace"?

When did it ever become "salvation by PREDESTINATION, through ELECTION" because that's what these DECEIVERS are teaching.

Even there proposed "refutation" is REFUTED by

 Acts 15:11 ESV

But we BELIEVE [FAITH] that we will be SAVED THROUGH the GRACE of the Lord Jesus, just as they will."

What a bunch of 5-Point-Worshipping-gnostic-ce­ntered-Wolves-in-sheeps-clothi­ng

[JackMWolfe]

I suggest everyone read not only Rom1 but all of Romans until they can clearly see that Calvinism's "gospel" is a counterfeit & their doctrines heretical & blasphemous. The bible teaches this:1) Man is born separated from God & cannot & will not seek Him on his own 2)God has supplied a way back to Himself thru Christ 3)intervenes in each person's life & convicts them of sin and 4)calls them to repentance 5) those who CHOOSE to obey are then regenerated in Christ. THAT's the genuine gospel.

[JackMWolfe]

@crem004 Pure ignorance. 1st, Rom1 is about those who have no access to the gospel - God has given everyone a measure of light, even if it's as little as the witness of creation & their own conscience & those who respond to it will be saved. No one is condemned by light they don't have available to them.2nd, election is taught in the scriptures - it just has nothing to do with Calvinism's perverted & blasphemous definition.

[crem004]

@TheHellbinder How is that any different than what Arminians say? Even Arminians believe that the wrath of God abides on those that don't believe. What about those who don't hear the gospel? Is God unjust because they didn't get the chance to hear the gospel? The responsibility still falls upon us. The issue isn't predestination, the issue is our unwillingness to love God on our own. I promise you that election is taught throughout the scriptures. I PRAISE GOD for election.

[Scottles293]

LOL wish it didnt finish where it did

[dellasfc]

8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. Eph.2

[TheHellbinder]

graceexplosion, one question,, how can you love the God you bieve in? one that set the conditions for man to fail. locked them into failure before birth, gave them commands he knew they could not keep, comanded them to repent when they can not repent, has the ability to save all and doesnt, then condems all to hell for eternal suffering? What you describe is Satan not Jesus Christ. you and all calvanists are deceived just like eve was.

[TheHellbinder]

graceexplosion, my son, you have a lot to learn. your passion is good but you have been taught many errors. read the scripture and let it say what it says. correct interpretation of the word requires a basic understanding of 3 principles. Litteral, figurative and Spiritual. All three are found in the Book and different sections have different emphasis but all are communicating the Heart of God. Learn of Jesus that you may see and let go.. and let the Holy spirit Open the word to you.