Noam Chomsky on failed states (06-09-06)

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[kelly980]

lehrer: what a twit

[JGuildersleeve]

@JayGatsbyOdysseus This is a shameful and low rhetorical trick and if you had a sense of intellectual honesty you would retract it. It doesn't surprise me though because seeing as though you can't actually produce a quotation from the text you disagree with, it only follows that you should resort to constructing shameful strawmen. The only people who seem to call socialism "Utopian" are people like you. But I've never said it here and it is nothing short of cowardly to make up my argument.

[peoman2]

OMG I kept watching this and that clown of an interviewer just said that B. F. Skinner's behaviourism is 'widely accepted'. I mean seriously that just takes it to a whole new level. That's like saying that the theory that the earth is flat is widely accepted. Behaviourism fell out of favour decades ago! That's it I'm done with this idiot. I'm going to sleep.

[peoman2]

@PurpleHoneyBear They are just massively ignorant. They've been indoctrinated with certain 'facts' about American society since childhood. It hasn't been a forced indoctrination, but it has been mostly unchallenged and that is why it is so prevalent. Thankfully, this issue is mostly isolated to the US and the rest of the world is more enlightened when it comes the actions of the US government. That gives me comfort when I see blind fools like the interviewer here.

[peoman2]

It never ceases to amaze me how massively ignorant a lot of these journalists who interview Chomsky are. These people should know something about the issues they report but instead they are just as brain washed and oblivious as the average moron walking down the street. It is sickening, journalism in the US has failed, it could not be any worse. The American public needs to completely ignore the dominant media organisations if they are to improve their nation.

[JayGatsbyOdysseus]

@JGuildersleeve Yes I agree with you!!! I hate those capitalist too. They are full of bullshit. Capitalism began with slavery here in the USA. Ayn Rand is a bitch who lived on Social Security for many years in her old age. Don't you see, I don't like Marx. I don't like Ayn Rand. There needs to be a mixture. Who is successful right now? China. Over there the banking system is controled by the government. But, there is capitalism, too. We need to mix things together like Obama,,lol

[JayGatsbyOdysseus]

@JGuildersleeve I told you it has been over 20 years since I have read M of C, and I don't have the text to review it. I did find the movie here on YouTube. I watched the first 5 min of it and started laughing. Chomsky was some place in Wyoming acting like the Rothchilds were there censoring him. It was a hoot. Yes, you are like John Lenon who thought in Imagine that everyone could just live together on a kibbutz.. Chomsky lived on one. Why did he leave if this is what he wants?

[JGuildersleeve]

@JGuildersleeve If I were stoop as low as you, I could say precisely the same thing that capitalist believe in a utopia on earth because they keep saying that the market can solve every problem. And in fact they do say this constantly. So I could (though I wouldn't) make exactly the same charge against capitalists, except in my case it would be more reasonable since capitalists in fact make these sorts of claims. But I wouldn't because it's a petty argument.

[JayGatsbyOdysseus]

@JayGatsbyOdysseus No one controls what I think!!! Chomsky wants to control what you think. I spent two years in Russia. Go there if you want a controlled press. The press is not perfectly objective and without bias, but it is very free compared to the rest of teh world and we get the many sides.  Not evryone can be included in the discussion,,,some must be labled crackpots,,,Chomsky has got that title of crackpot so he is not included...

[JayGatsbyOdysseus]

Found movie Manufacturing Consent here on YouTube. Been 20 some years since I went down this road. Will watch it. Saw first five minutes and almost started laughing. Thought Chomsky was going to say Rothchilds were in all of our heads and controlling what we think. It is obvious to me that Chomsky is just pissed that he is not included in mainstream media so he wrote his book. It is just like Ayn Rand who was upset tthat the Boshevicks took over her fathers and spent her life writing cap

[JayGatsbyOdysseus]

@JGuildersleeve Once the head engineer came into work and said some things look great on paper but they don't work out on the shop floor. You are like John Lenon believing in Imagine. You think that a Utopian place is possible here on earth. Keep reading your fairy tales. I will go for a place like Norway where capitalism is the man and socialism is the woman, correcting the man. I can't quoate anything from M of C. been 20+ years do remember a lot of circular logic like u.