Planet 100: Cap And Trade Explained

I'm sure you've heard the terms Cap and Trade in the news and probably most recently as saving energy has become even more important. Well, Planet 100 is here to explain the who, what, when, where and how of why we should care about these two words. To read more about Planet 100 news: http://planetgreen.discovery.com/feature/planet-100/

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[SuperTopTutor]

for profit. Not just one way, but TWO ways to capitalize on a fabricated lie, a giant hoax, that's generating billions of dollars / euros which ends up in the pockets of the 0.someting% of the worlds population.

It's another complete fraud brought to you by Wall-Street and other like-minded vultures that live for money and nothing but money.

[SuperTopTutor]

Cap and Trade is one of the greatest deception our leaders have come up with to deceive the citizens of the world into believing this would do anything to reduce CO2 in the atmosphere, which by the way would reduce the growth of all vegetation on the entire planet and if that's the way to cool down the planet, than Love =Hate and Slavery = Freedom.

The CO2 story was fabricated by the international banksters to enforce a global tax on the use of CO2, and Cap and Trade to be able to buy and sell

[trexilll]

@proadmin1 We're getting into a much broader debate now. I'll bow out here and say I agree with we need to be more efficient ESPECIALLY with our fuel consumption. But I still (and always will) oppose cap & trade, and the "human co2 production is causing global warming" hoax.

[proadmin1]

@trexilll Nah, they were in a situation where they region they live in was subject to a 14 year long drought, it broke after a while, but it's that kind of crap, less particular warming or cooling in one area but rather that our political and resource demands work really well with our current conditions, and not so much when some river that is used by a billion people dries up, Pakistan/India, Sudan, Western China, even the Western US are shy of plentiful water, we just don't talk about it.

[proadmin1]

@trexilll I'm not debating whether the planet - in some pristine condition probably could absorb whatever we as a species produce, but when you add the cumulative effects of all our demands, it's like the old George Carlin joke, "save the earth"....wrong...the Earth will be just fine....the people are fucked but the Earth will be just fine...it's that.

[proadmin1]

@trexilll I think about it this way, as a species we suck BADLY at anticipating problems. Global warming isn't really the thing I'm concerned about, I figure about the time everyone agrees - oh yes - what do you know it IS happening - were fucked anyway. The more pressing concern - and this really kills two birds from my view, is oil scarcity. As we run out of LSC, we have to do most all of the same things - switch to solar , get hybrid / electric cars, use rail, basically get very efficient.

[trexilll]

@proadmin1 I'm not saying we shouldn't be efficient. I'm saying CO2 doesn't cause global warming, and if it did, humans account for dick compared to natural processes. This planet runs itself, we're along for the ride. And your family's water issue sounds more like a logistical one rather than lack of supply.

[trexilll]

@proadmin1 "You people" referring to those who believe we are killing the planet. The real green nutjobs. You don't seem to be an extremist, you talk at least half sensibly. I don't see how costs go down, when companies have to buy credit who gets passed the costs? Consumers. Whether or not Cap & Trade is effective or not is irrelevant. CO2 does not cause global warming, and so putting a C&T on carbon is naught but Al Gore and party wanting more cash. He buys carbon credits from himself, rofl.

[proadmin1]

@trexilll I don't mean to suggest the current crop of politicians have the best intentions, I'm sure they are like others, just as self-interested as others. But, I see nothing wrong with promoting efficiency. Moreover, as the presentation notes, the BIGGER problem is that in 20 years or so, we're really seriously short on oil , on anything like the scale we currently enjoy, so vast levels of efficiency should already be in place, but most politicians fail utterly to highlight supply issues.

[proadmin1]

@trexilll On the matter of CO2, I think back to the arguments against SO4, made 20 some odd years ago. All the same arguments - it wasn't real, humans couldn't possibly be causing it etc. This process WORKS, using a regular market mechanism, & provides incentives to be efficient. You get efficient, costs go down, externalities go down, & the nation prospers, I fail utterly to see anything other than a cost add for CO2 producers, who are inefficient. Penalizing inefficiency - how communist of me.