@David8024667 I dont know wht u mean by UPC :). But that sounded like a very hardcore church. We have to let the Spirit do the work, not people. In my house my children r not allowed to see certain programs and they have to respect their parents. They were trying to scare you into obedience. But remember the Lord says in the Bible that HE would right His laws on our hearts and minds.
@truthseeker1014 I am glad that they helped with that sort of thing. That was nice of them. I never said that they DIDN'T help with that sort of thing. Not once did I say something like that. What I told you was my own PERSONAL experience (was NOT saying that ALL UPC Churches were like this). I think you read only ONE post of mine and thought I was attacking the UPC as a whole (when I was telling you of my OWN personal experience with them and ONLY MY EXPERIENCE).
@LadyD1979 All I'm saying is that these Churches should NOT be there to scare you half to death. At my Church, I used to see people CLUTCHING onto the pews in front of them because they were so scared. And, they would make jokes about that (like that was funny). I don't think it's funny at all. That's HORRIBLY wrong. And, abusive. God doesn't operate like that. Or, at least, I don't believe He does. But, that was all part of the brainwashing I went through (to keep us there and to CONTROL us)
@LadyD1979 I am scared to ever step foot in another UPC. At my Church, they told us that if we ever left, horrible things would happen to us (car accidents, sicknesses, diseases, deaths of not only you, but loved ones, too - family, friends ... etc., etc., etc., ). We had the "hedge of God's protection AS LONG AS WE CONTINUED GOING THERE. BUT, THE MOMENT WE STOPPED GOING THERE, WE WOULD LOSE THAT PROTECTION. AND, ALL HELL WOULD BREAK LOOSE ON OUR LIVES."). That was their method to KEEP us there
@LadyD1979 I am sorry to hear that YOU had some bad experiences in the UPC, too. It's almost like playing the lottery. You have all these bad (horrible) Churches. And, then, there's always a few good Churches, too. I have went on the internet. And, there are TONS of websites on United Pentecostal Churches and the abuse that people who go to these Churches suffer. And, these people speak out about THEIR experiences. And, some of them are absolutely STARTLING and OUTRAGEOUS (but true).
@LadyD1979 (CONT.) Can you imagine what that did to ME (as a 14-15 year old)??? I had nightmares, thinking that I caused this kid to go to HELL (cuz that's where the lady said he went and there were several OTHERS who agreed with her). These people were soooo fanatical about everything. And, their eyes looked like they were going to POP out at any given moment. It was really scary to me cuz I thought (at the time) that I had caused this friend of mine to go to HELL and nobody told me differently
@LadyD1979 My friend said that he thought the message was 4 HIM. But, said that he could never conform 2 ALL the rules cuz there were just way 2 many 2 deal with. He especially had a hard time w/the curfew & the fact that we weren't allowed 2 have or watch tv's. Anyways, 2 make a long story short, he DIED 3 days later. Got hit by a car (was so bad that they had 2 have a closed casket). A lady at the Church told me that the blood of his' soul was on MY hands cuz I didn't pray him thru 2 the H.G.
@LadyD1979 It's soooo hard to let go of it all, though. Had way too may bad (nightmarish) experiences in the UPC that I could never mention them all. And, they are EXTREMELY hard to let go of. I will give you ONE example. I had a friend come to Church with me when I was probably 14 years old. There was a tongues of interpretation during that service (scary service). The interpretation was, "There is one who's here who has NOT yielded 2 MY voice. I AM DONE WITH U" (or something like that) - CONT.
@LadyD1979 Oh, I do know this. And, I don't think that ALL UPC Churches are like this. But, I was just saying what my PAST experiences have been with the UPC. I have had nothing but bad, it seems (with the exception of a few good experiences, too). I am TRYING my best to let God heal my heart. I break down really easily and just bawl my head off, speaking in tongues. I can't just cry. I end up speaking in tongues (which is NOT a bad thing, but I'm just saying ... ).
@truthseeker1014 I never judged them ALL (as you are saying I did). I have done just the OPPOSITE. So, please don't judge ME. I would appreciate that. If you read ALL my posts (which, obviously, you have only read a couple), you would realize that I have said that there are some GOOD Churches, too. But, I was only telling you MY OWN PERSONAL experiences.
@David8024667 I dont know wht u mean by UPC :). But that sounded like a very hardcore church. We have to let the Spirit do the work, not people. In my house my children r not allowed to see certain programs and they have to respect their parents. They were trying to scare you into obedience. But remember the Lord says in the Bible that HE would right His laws on our hearts and minds.
LadyD1979 1 day ago
@truthseeker1014 I am glad that they helped with that sort of thing. That was nice of them. I never said that they DIDN'T help with that sort of thing. Not once did I say something like that. What I told you was my own PERSONAL experience (was NOT saying that ALL UPC Churches were like this). I think you read only ONE post of mine and thought I was attacking the UPC as a whole (when I was telling you of my OWN personal experience with them and ONLY MY EXPERIENCE).
David8024667 1 day ago
@LadyD1979 All I'm saying is that these Churches should NOT be there to scare you half to death. At my Church, I used to see people CLUTCHING onto the pews in front of them because they were so scared. And, they would make jokes about that (like that was funny). I don't think it's funny at all. That's HORRIBLY wrong. And, abusive. God doesn't operate like that. Or, at least, I don't believe He does. But, that was all part of the brainwashing I went through (to keep us there and to CONTROL us)
David8024667 1 day ago
@LadyD1979 I am scared to ever step foot in another UPC. At my Church, they told us that if we ever left, horrible things would happen to us (car accidents, sicknesses, diseases, deaths of not only you, but loved ones, too - family, friends ... etc., etc., etc., ). We had the "hedge of God's protection AS LONG AS WE CONTINUED GOING THERE. BUT, THE MOMENT WE STOPPED GOING THERE, WE WOULD LOSE THAT PROTECTION. AND, ALL HELL WOULD BREAK LOOSE ON OUR LIVES."). That was their method to KEEP us there
David8024667 1 day ago
@LadyD1979 I am sorry to hear that YOU had some bad experiences in the UPC, too. It's almost like playing the lottery. You have all these bad (horrible) Churches. And, then, there's always a few good Churches, too. I have went on the internet. And, there are TONS of websites on United Pentecostal Churches and the abuse that people who go to these Churches suffer. And, these people speak out about THEIR experiences. And, some of them are absolutely STARTLING and OUTRAGEOUS (but true).
David8024667 1 day ago
@LadyD1979 (CONT.) Can you imagine what that did to ME (as a 14-15 year old)??? I had nightmares, thinking that I caused this kid to go to HELL (cuz that's where the lady said he went and there were several OTHERS who agreed with her). These people were soooo fanatical about everything. And, their eyes looked like they were going to POP out at any given moment. It was really scary to me cuz I thought (at the time) that I had caused this friend of mine to go to HELL and nobody told me differently
David8024667 1 day ago
@LadyD1979 My friend said that he thought the message was 4 HIM. But, said that he could never conform 2 ALL the rules cuz there were just way 2 many 2 deal with. He especially had a hard time w/the curfew & the fact that we weren't allowed 2 have or watch tv's. Anyways, 2 make a long story short, he DIED 3 days later. Got hit by a car (was so bad that they had 2 have a closed casket). A lady at the Church told me that the blood of his' soul was on MY hands cuz I didn't pray him thru 2 the H.G.
David8024667 1 day ago
@LadyD1979 It's soooo hard to let go of it all, though. Had way too may bad (nightmarish) experiences in the UPC that I could never mention them all. And, they are EXTREMELY hard to let go of. I will give you ONE example. I had a friend come to Church with me when I was probably 14 years old. There was a tongues of interpretation during that service (scary service). The interpretation was, "There is one who's here who has NOT yielded 2 MY voice. I AM DONE WITH U" (or something like that) - CONT.
David8024667 1 day ago
@LadyD1979 Oh, I do know this. And, I don't think that ALL UPC Churches are like this. But, I was just saying what my PAST experiences have been with the UPC. I have had nothing but bad, it seems (with the exception of a few good experiences, too). I am TRYING my best to let God heal my heart. I break down really easily and just bawl my head off, speaking in tongues. I can't just cry. I end up speaking in tongues (which is NOT a bad thing, but I'm just saying ... ).
David8024667 1 day ago
@truthseeker1014 I never judged them ALL (as you are saying I did). I have done just the OPPOSITE. So, please don't judge ME. I would appreciate that. If you read ALL my posts (which, obviously, you have only read a couple), you would realize that I have said that there are some GOOD Churches, too. But, I was only telling you MY OWN PERSONAL experiences.
David8024667 1 day ago