Sonic Adventure 2 "Biolizard (Supporting Me)" Music Request

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[LoboFan1000]

I still dont get how a dinosaur is the prototype of a hedgehog

[MrHarreh]

I always remember at around 0:24 is when you can first hit him, i always will remember my first time as i flew back to safety from this thing and thinking... shit.

AND THEM BALL THINGS.

[BariBariKawa]

@skivit I wasn't stating that Robotnik knew what he was doing and leaving it at that, I didn't go into details because of the amount of characters allowed in a yt comment. I instead hinted at biological facts that, in retrospect, maybe I was wrong to assume were common knowledge. It wasn't that I didn't have details in my head, it's just that there are potentially so many reasons branching off of other reasons for why Robotnik did what he did that all I could do was hint them to save time/space.

[BariBariKawa]

@skivit I never once said I was explaining why he specifically chose a hedgehog, this whole time I've simply been pointing out why it was plausible that he went from reptile to choosing mammal instead. Now, getting into details, Robotnik could have chosen mammal over reptile for any number of reasons, including the warm/cold blooded factor which influences many other biological factors in itself, reptiles being limited by their more urgent need for warmth, and mammals producing their own.

[skivit]

@BariBariKawa You can't leave out specifics in an explanation. You can't just say that Robotnik knew what he was doing and leave it at that. Why a lizard, then a hedgehog? What is the reasoning behind that? Why a hedgehog and not a fox or an echidna? The fact that the correlation between Biolizard and Shadow as "Ultimate Lifeforms" is never properly explained is exactly why so many of us are confused as to Robotnik's logic. And if life is the only requirement, then yeah, they're interchangeable.

[BariBariKawa]

@BariBariKawa The common factor between lizard and hedgehog was simply life, that's all that is required when attempting to build the ultimate 'Life' from a base (creating life is another story). It's not implausible that a long line of research and failed experiments would lead Robotnik to realize that lizards and their kind were not as suitable to be his interpretation of "ultimate life" as perhaps a mammal would be.

[BariBariKawa]

@BariBariKawa Looking at Shadow and Biolizard, they obviously had different processes implemented on them in an attempt to make them the "ultimate life" (Biolizard with huge life support, Shadow without), and that makes sense because they are different animals with different needs. If we try to define "ultimate lifeform" when the story didn't clearly tell us its definition, we risk creating our own story instead of discussing an existing one.

[BariBariKawa]

@skivit Lizards and hedgehogs are different in more ways than one, but I wouldn't go as far as to say opposites (there needs to be evidence for that claim). Robotnik didn't go in a completely different direction with a hedgehog, he still had the goal of ultimate life before him, just with a different species as a base. I think you're confused, Robotnik never at any point thought that "either animal would do fine", the sequence was: attempt with lizard, fail, research some more, try hedgehog.

[BariBariKawa]

@BariBariKawa I answered "How is a dinosaur the prototype of a hedgehog?" by attempting to highlight why that scenario was possible (one didn't evolve into the other, they were just separate test subjects, one failed and the other made as a follow-up). I made sure to assume positive instead of negative (the positive being that the creator of the ultimate life knew what definitions of ultimate they wanted to make). Though, looking at the life support on Biolizard, long life seems apparent.

[skivit]

@BariBariKawa But dinosaurs and hedgehogs are like total opposites. Why, if Robotnik failed with Biolizard, would he go in a completely different direction with Shadow?

And I think that we should have some definition of "Ultimate Lifeform", since the two species are so different. What common factor did they have that would lead Robotnik to think that either animal would do just fine? It's fairly pertinent.

[BariBariKawa]

@skivit I never said they were interchangeable, just that as far as the experiment was concerned, the two species were equally eligible to be candidates for the ultimate life. When I made my previous statement, I made sure to leave out any definitions of "ultimate lifeform", leaving it under the assumption that the creator of the "ultimate life" already knew what definition(s) of it they were going to pursue. I avoided all the details you mentioned and simply answered the 1st person's question.

[skivit]

@BariBariKawa Just because they're both living creatures doesn't make them interchangeable. And it all depends on what the definition of "ultimate" is. Does it mean strongest? Fastest? Smartest? Longest-living? Hardest to kill? There are too many factors to judge by. (Although if it were up to me, I'd probably start with a dinosaur too.)